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Frog - Su-25K - Drone Age
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Fuel: 20 minutes
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Missiles: 2x R-60MK + 2 S-150 @1000m
Convergence: 600 meters
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All frog, no foot
@darktemplardelta268
Жыл бұрын
You typing that reminded me of a perun vid
@PilotViking
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@videojosh20
Жыл бұрын
Can't figure out if this is good or bad
@PilotViking
Жыл бұрын
@@videojosh20 next one will be «f14 tom»
@dankeykang868
Жыл бұрын
@@darktemplardelta268 All Bling, no basics
Hearing any kind of missile and "not render" sends me straight into fight or flight mode
@SupaMan2122
Жыл бұрын
Hearing defyn promote head ons , is this real life?
Harrier GR.7 in the works? I got it today and I’ve been getting frontal aspect locks from 2.5 miles away. The burn time is absolutely insane. I know you’ll get some high kill games with the GR.7
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
Tomorrow!
@alvarito7523
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN the new J7E, is outstanding.
@PrivateMemo
Жыл бұрын
"2.5 *miles*"
@silverfortytwo9506
Жыл бұрын
It also actually flies surprisingly well apart from top speed! It rates at about 18 deg/s
@Deathwing21
Жыл бұрын
"Miles" 😂
"Not good in air RB" the singular su-25 taking out my entire team; :)
@ihaveacar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah in the right hands this thing is a match winner
@matthaeuspoeta6461
Жыл бұрын
Your team was most likely not good.
@captainMony
Жыл бұрын
@@matthaeuspoeta6461 never was, never is
Hey, Defyn. Just wanted to say thank you for this video. I watched quite a lot videos reviewing this thing and it felt more like an actual ad. While you honestly showed what this plane is truly capable of without any evasive talk. Thank you for being honest and being pro!
@cyanide7270
Жыл бұрын
I mean sure, from an air RB perspective, but for CAS in ground? cant exactly take the word of someone that doesnt even play ground, so in some sense from that standpoint its also disingenuous. In ground this thing fucking SLAPS.
@Dinozavr210
Жыл бұрын
@@cyanide7270 sure arb expirience cause its air rb channel after all. And Defyn plays ground, he was in one of the latest Oddbawz video, but here purely air rb talk cause this thing shouldn't be flying all over the place in air rb, its annoying. And, I'm talking about the fact that other wt you tubers are quite optimistic about su25 in air rb, but here brutal and honest opinion
16:51 "he will be running away" That's so fitting for the majority of WT AR players, they always run away or RTB without reasons.
@ATBatmanMALS31
Жыл бұрын
I get running... everyone gets running, I'm not gonna roll around with a zero. RTBs baffle me though. MFers have zero pride, and aren't looking for a tough fight... it begs the question "Why the fuck do you play the game?" It's a question I have never actually had answered, though I already know what it is: I play War Thunder for honorable and challenging competition... base campers play for the skinner box. To anyone reading this, if you are playing War Thunder to advance to the fun part of the game, just quit now... the game you are playing IS the game. Learn how to get gud, or get to fuckin' stepping... We've got enough people ruining Air RB already.
@112mirai
Жыл бұрын
had a p51 run away from us until we lost to tickets, it was 5 to 1 and he could outrun us since we were japanese
@bigtony4930
Жыл бұрын
@@ATBatmanMALS31 MFs really getting mad over Returning to base for resupplying
@aurelianrebels9074
Жыл бұрын
@@112mirai It happens to nations with a lot of slow planes but competent players. Japan fits the bill more often than I would like
@ATBatmanMALS31
Жыл бұрын
@@bigtony4930 obviously not what I'm talking about
Keep playing with odd, those videos are so fun to watch.
Still probably the best option as a top jet premium for Russia. The Su-7 is fast +has full ballistic computer, but has no countermeasures and its bomb-load isn't good enough to destroy a base, and its best weapon for ground RB are the S-24s. The MiG-21S is very similar in a "fighter" classification, just instead of bombs it gets some bad AAMs, still gets the S-24s with CCIP for CAS tough.
could you by any chance make a video on how to use thrust vectoring in a vtol plane to your advantage in dogfights?
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
GR.7 tomorow, will try to include it
@jacobdoolan4978
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN let’s GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Big brain: make enemy more confident by getting rid of the missles
@Bitchesgivehigh5s
Жыл бұрын
What i was thinking. Find its weakest Missile. Leave it with them, and drop it to 9.3. Not everything needs a 60G missile that can shoot 30KM.
I love this special events when defyn is making lot of new planes wideos
The charm of an SU25K is that it's at least better than SU-7 in ground RB to pair with the premium T72 and that's pretty much it ngl
My aim-9b (or Robot 24 if you wanna be exact) just straight up ignored the flares and went for a SU-25 today. It made me very happy but I was very surprised.
Would love to see you make reviews for planes in ground RB like you've kinda been doing with Odd, especially for a plane like this.
Man, when you and other YT'ers said that plane was hot, y'all weren't kidding. I just yeeted an Su-25 on the deck, from 6km above them with the Matra 530E. In my experience those missiles never track well
You are just spitting out content now. Keep it up mate!
the su25 is one of the most beautiful aircrafts in my opinion
Andrew Tate music while killing him, lol. If you ever want to play a unique French prop that isn't horrible take out the M.B. 157! One of my favorites!
@bushman-2155
Жыл бұрын
You should clip that,bro. Lol add the music, then suddenly,gets slapped out of the sky. I'm sure Andrew would find that hilarious.
@Hartwig870
Жыл бұрын
@@bushman-2155 Not sure he'd appreciate that now. Too busy getting to know his new friends in Romania jail. Now he gets to see what being a woman is like.
Frog 🐸 👍
I love this thing quite a bit, and not because it’s any good. I have managed slightly over a 3.0 k/d which I think is alright I guess for a vehicle like this. Most of my kills aren’t even missle kills, but having fun with guns. The su-25 would be so much better if they made it so your br changes via load out. Yea that would mean a lot of reworks for how spawning loadouts in air rn worked and having to preselect. But this thing would be, IMO, almost perfectly balanced at 9.0 without missles. It can’t turnfight or outrun any opponents there but the capability of its firepower as well as energy trapping low skill players makes it alright. I’ve had a great deal of fun in it and mostly because people think it’s scarier than it is and trying to disengage and getting a lucky kill when they run.
@Bitchesgivehigh5s
Жыл бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. I feel they just keep adding planes more and more into the future with stronger and stronger missiles. Don't get me wrong, they are fun. But stop.....This thing vs any play with missiles is gonna lock super hard because of the heat its putting out. Just let it sit with its weakest missiles at 9. 9.7 you're gonna get some Tomcats and it wont be fun. Or give it a modifier for strike attacking the maps. Its not meant to be a fighter, more of a ground attacker. So give it a nice buff for killing AAs and trucks and bunkers.
@jeppe2787
Жыл бұрын
@@Bitchesgivehigh5s how exactly do you see tomcats at 9.7 if you can only see up to 10.7 and tomcat is 11.3?
@SchwertKruemel
Жыл бұрын
@@jeppe2787 its 10.0 in arcrade and in arcade you can build a lineup with the tomcat that in total will be considered 11.0
@lgndry_bst2242
Жыл бұрын
you would have to remove the feature to change loadouts before spawning. i dont think they will do that
I don't know. I only bring r-60s. The plane doesn't seem that bad. The gun absolutely desinigrates whatever it hits. I've had decent games in it at least but that was also 5 hours after patch.
@NANOG-P8
Жыл бұрын
the plane isn't incredibly good but it ruins the entire battle rating .
@Bitchesgivehigh5s
Жыл бұрын
@@NANOG-P8 Why do you say that?
@NANOG-P8
Жыл бұрын
@@Bitchesgivehigh5s because it can't beat anything in a 1v1 but you can't fight anyone if the su 25 is within a 4km radius or it'll missile 8.7s that can't dodge r60s .
@Bitchesgivehigh5s
Жыл бұрын
@@NANOG-P8 They could cut the 60s out and use its weakest Missiles. I dont think every new plane needs a 60G missile.
@NANOG-P8
Жыл бұрын
@@Bitchesgivehigh5s but without r60s it would be really really bad .
Pain is me at top tier , I turned off my engine, popped 5 large caliber flare and turned hard, and an r60m from an su25 sill hit me
All foot, no frog.
@SupaMan2122
Жыл бұрын
Poison Toad would be good name slow but deadly
What color's your Bugatti ?
08:07 that Top G theme lmao, loved the edit there
Jettison feature is very good tho. I wonder if you can now drop gun pod from f-5e when it's empty.
@thisguyyyyyyy2723
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it seems you can’t jettison gun pods. Haven’t tried it with everything yet, but it doesn’t work for the F-4E or the Z-11WA.
@derkaiser9881
Жыл бұрын
It hasn't worked on any plane I've tried. That includes the tech tree Su-25. The rocket pods and stuff wouldn't come off.
@xavier4519
Жыл бұрын
Wonder when they'll add the feature to WW2 aircraft, it'd be nice dropping the bazooka launchers on the P-47
@PrinceRapopy
Жыл бұрын
@@derkaiser9881 You can jettison rocket pods, but there’s a catch. If you run out of rockets and select a different weapon before ditching the pods, you won’t be able to switch back to the (now empty) pods to jettison them. Same thing goes for every other pylon, pod and object that can currently be jettisoned.
@thisguyyyyyyy2723
Жыл бұрын
@@xavier4519 All aircraft can jettison secondary weapons, you just need to use weapon selection so the game knows what weapon to jettison.
Luckily most thrust vectoring pilots don't know about the thrust vectoring. LMAO mate. You just described humanity.
This thing requires some skill too though, you have epic engines,AA missiles, cool Air-Ground weopons but you can't just rush you need some skill too like when you play on grb you gotta equip weopons that suits you the best and learn how to use them.
Thank you for the result screen and the further neuron activation provided by them.
0:19 its not the best ground striker but it does help fill the attack jet hole in the russian tree at higher tiers, still doesnt compare to the quality and quantity of strike jets us has at higher tiers lol
the spam is so bad on this thing that i dusted off the gr1 to grind the gr7 and im actually having FUN and stomping in the gr1 lmao
The Andrew Tate bit almost made me spit out my kringle, aged like fine wine btw lol. Looked up you doing some Su-25 stuff cause I just unlocked mine and wanted some tips, having a blast with it so far :D
Did you catch any full downtiers by any chance? If so how are the R60Ms against subsonics with no flares? Keep it up!
@christophermalthe1818
Жыл бұрын
it doesnt get downtiers
@chytry67
Жыл бұрын
@@christophermalthe1818 oh but it does, just try flying USA at 8.7, enemy teams are full of them
@arash2236
Жыл бұрын
i use a MIG21SMT and 90% of times im in a full downtier with Su25s and im the only fighter of the team
@bradenhagen7977
Жыл бұрын
Perfect time to play some 8.3-8.7s hardly ever an uptier.
@christophermalthe1818
Жыл бұрын
@@bradenhagen7977 yeah i never get uptiers in the mig15
The Frog mafia is strong in WT right now.
"it's not a dogfighter..." *out dogfights everything* xD
Hey defyn please read this comment. As we all know Air RB at top tier right now is a piece of shit, you either have small maps with matches that last 2 min only or large empty EC maps with just 1 AF and you keep flying with nothing around to do. My suggestion is that gaijin should make a PVE mode for Air RB players, it could be similar to the existente helicopter PvE we would have multiples objectives to do like enemy aircrafts, bases, ground units and etc... This would be a great opportunity to use the multirole aircrafts like the A-10,SU-25 recently added since in Air RB you mainly will use Air to Air missiles and bomb runs are almost always suicide, those planes that have more focus on ground attack are useless I think it would be a great addition for Air players that like me are tired of the current state of Air RB at top tier, let me know what you guys think of it.
@kommandantkillcode
Жыл бұрын
The could just bring back RB EC with RB controls and SIM EC rules like it used to be. It would be the best of both worlds since there is more than enough room for ground attackers to ground pound and fighters to fight each other too.
Not that I want to ruin the fun or see the Su-25 at 9.3, but seeing it easily rip its wings at full thrust and pulling 10-11G long turns at 850+ kph... it has to be overperforming quite a bit compared to real life, doesn't it?
Every word in this video should've been frog just with different enunciation
Defyn, have you seen the nerfed AN/M3 damage? They can no longer onetap people from a mile away.
Awesome vid man. I didn’t realize they changed the BR that fast 😂
“He’s a top G and I don’t like that” now this is what u call a chad response
DEFYN you think its not that good in air rb but it is a pain to play anything in that br range without flares because of the constant spam. I think R60ms should be removed and should stay at 9.3
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
Oh it definitely is, same deal with the A10 sadly
@SupaMan2122
Жыл бұрын
It can pop flaps above 750kmh
@GmodFilmsTR
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN you can dodge aim9L on a head on and non head on launchs but you cant with r60s. I act veery carefully around su25s or else if I go infront of them Im just 100% dead. knowing that a plane lower br than me handicaps me to play that carefully just doesnt make sense. regular r60s I would tolerate very much.
"Little bit of d**k move..." Basically fastest in game uptier ever, which tells you that balancing on so to speak "stats", is one big fat BS and excuse to do whatever they want. On top of that they have audacity to send you in game message, that Su-25 br was "incorrect". LOL
It absorbed a sidewinder as “hits” 💀
this thing is stupid fun, picked it up %50 off the other day
something is really messed up with the RP... 5 kills 13k RP only. In the past it was waaaaay more. No wonder grinding top tier takes forever nowadays
So basically what ur saying is... it's a mig17 with r60Ms and flares at 9.7
@GmodFilmsTR
Жыл бұрын
just remember that f100 and mig19 is the same br as that thing.
@152mmapfsds
Жыл бұрын
@@GmodFilmsTR compression. Awesome. old news. The Mig19 is actually good tho don't compare it to the crapshow F100
@arash2236
Жыл бұрын
Mig17 is way too much more maneuverable than this brick
@152mmapfsds
Жыл бұрын
@@arash2236 I was talking about energy. The Mig17 will still get 1 circled by the Sabre at its br. So the concept is similar here
@arash2236
Жыл бұрын
@@152mmapfsds with A sabre maybe but Fs are way heavier and a maxed mig17 or 15 can easily out turn them but also you can push A sabres to verticals and you will out perform them if tou dont die
Andrew Tate caught me off guard I had to put up my volume higher to actually believe that you slipped in that Top G audio 🤣🤣
8:10 love the top-g song
@bushman-2155
Жыл бұрын
He got Dicked slapped. 😂🤣
Isn't this one now the most played plane in the game right now ? Easy to play easy to fly all aspects vs flareless planes basically two easy kills every match
If you're going to take rockets for pillboxes, you should just take S-13Os. they one shot light ones and you get 5 shots instead of 2
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
Yeah i started doing that, i was mostly using these for headons but i never got to use them
outro music playing in the intro? very distracting while youre talking lol
6:20 woah at least take them to dinner first 😳 Also 8:07 😳😳😳
No foot, no frog
@krukpl1228
Жыл бұрын
mmm foot 🥵
9:26 "unfortunately he has some flares", bruh every plane that needs to face 30G load all aspect missiles deserves to have flares to stand a decent chance. If you aren't in a perfect position to dodge you'll just die
@niksarass
Жыл бұрын
Go tell that to Gaijin who puts mig21sfps at 9.3 br and su25 at 9.7 facing unflared aircraft
What should I buy. Su-25k, mig 23 ml, f5c or mirage 200. I have 700h of experience with jets. But I'm a bad buyer
Im more surprised i never found anyone who named themselves andrew tate as their gamer tag on war thunder lol
Got it on sale for $30 so I could grind Mig-29. Being a fighter pilot, adjusting has been... interesting. I used to laugh at the Su-25's as I flew circles around them, and now it's I who gets laughed at 😂😂
@bpmgaming3351
Жыл бұрын
@@aesa12010 It _can_ be fun, but in my experience, as someone who's much better in fighter jets, it's a struggle. Nearly everyone is faster and able to simply pull away from you. R60's get flared pretty easily too. It may be a good grb grinder, but I play arb so my experience might vary from yours.
Could you perhaps do an F-4E/F4EJ review in the current meta? Hard ask ik.
@alanm1121
Жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable Yeah I just can't seem to make the EJ work radar-wise. So much ground clutter, ive got like 1 sparrow kill in the 20 games ive used them. I've got the kai unlocked but I don't have enough creds for it :((
@SupaMan2122
Жыл бұрын
I agree wonder with e2 sparrows how it does
@alanm1121
Жыл бұрын
@@SupaMan2122 ej kai has 7fs so im looking forward to using it.
How do you feel about the new damage model?
@ayylmao8901
Жыл бұрын
It's fucking bullshit on the SU25. Engine exhaust has this invisible wall that magically nerfs the damage you deal to the engines.
Yeah, the Su-26K in war thunder for 60$ or Su-25 in DCS for 15$... sure they are completely different games for different niches, however I still think the Su-25 in DCS is one to one is vastly better deal.
@krisztianszabo1440
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the more modern Su25T with a TV pod/screen for guided munitions, with anti radiation missiles in DCS... for FREE.
@WatchMysh
Жыл бұрын
A single gun pod of the DCS SU25 is probably a more sophisticated model than the whole plane in WT. I'd never pay the price of AAA game for this.
@skull1161
Жыл бұрын
they buy these planes to grind not to fly for sim yall dcs players dont know that its a grinding game and not a sim so your not buying the plane itself your buying the boosters that come with it that will give you 2x or more rewards per battle
@WatchMysh
Жыл бұрын
@@skull1161 We know.
@krisztianszabo1440
Жыл бұрын
@@skull1161 i played war thunder since 2013, and Dcs since 2019. Maybe you are wrong? And what if people are sharing thougths on something.. why there has to be always a snowflake jumpimg in and telling them off.. jesus get a toyhouse or something.
Absoulte bullshit said in this video. Su25 is a better A-10 meaning its a good plane and worth buying
i see a meme about strike aircraft cleaning fighter jets booties. wt strike aircraft= scrubbing butt cheeks and slapping tanks
Frog
Any good guides on Harrier’s thrust vectoring? Like when exactly are you supposed to use it?
The loadout I run in the 25k is always the r-60s, 6 250kg bombs and 2 gunpods. As long as you don’t get focused by more than one dude, you can more than easily get half a base’s health and 3-4 kills in one flight. The r-60s make it possible to do decently well in an up tier to an 11.0 match if you happen to be in a squad that might make that happen.
@skull1161
Жыл бұрын
sorry but in 11.0 su-25 is not even worth attention, at best its a good 3rd party plane
Although Defyn spits facts and proves a point your team will still try to head on it or die while attempting a bomb run and you will be alone after like 7-8 minutes of match against 6-7 Su-25 and occasional MiG-21
Froooggg
That's not S-250 tho, S-25O(October). Goes for Fragmentation in russian. Also it doesn't have afterburner.
Still, I farmed around 1 mln SL during this few hours at 9.3
I enjoyed the hanger intro
is weapon dropping available for all planes now?
How did you change the tracking circle and radar to white? :O
Lol, i know its br will go up.. r60 on 9.3 is similar as harrier first debut at 9.3.. I dont expect them to move it up in 6 hours though..
@covenantslayergaming6362
Жыл бұрын
They moved it up in six hours... To 9.7. Now we wait for it to go to 10.0-10.3 where it belongs
@covenantslayergaming6362
Жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable That's because the yak-38 also has no flares and can't turn at all. The frogfoot can turn surprisingly well, is fast, and has r60M's which is a substantial improvement over the r60.
@rifwann
Жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable which one? Premium? Did you make sure that we are talking about air rb? Because last time i see its 9.7 Just did a search, premium one are 9.3 it was removed this summer. i never met them though, meeting them in 8.3 must be hell
They did kinda buff IR missiles in this update to make them all track better x_x
Will I have a chance for the su-7b remake. It is not 9.0 like you do back then.
ty homie
So did you buy the premium version or get it for free?
@user-xb7wl6dy4w
Жыл бұрын
gaijin free trial for affiliates
@Defyn why are you using flares only, no chaff? Is it enough at this BR?
@GmodFilmsTR
Жыл бұрын
even if you get a 10.7 full uptier there is no good radar missles. you dont need chaff even in top tier rn cus of pulse doppler.
@ICertI
Жыл бұрын
@@GmodFilmsTR So there is no use of chaff in ARB only in GRB? Because in Tunguska it retarget to chaff so they kinda work.
Day 2 of asking for an IL-2 video You know what else is an iconic Soviet attack aircraft? The IL-2.
After playing su25k I was a bit disappointed since I have a10, but hey it still can help me grind through soviet tech tree so I would rate this thing 3 out of 5 simply because of missile.
I was bitching about this plane in chat to get a general sense of what people think. It's a prime example of "guns = good plane" in the community. There's really not a lot you can do to something like an F-5C, A-5C, etc. if they're paying even the slightest of attention to you and flaring appropriately. The A-10 is 10x better just because it can reverse people by accident, has better missiles, and can ALWAYS get its nose on you. The Su-25 can almost never get its nose on target just because of how awful the turn is. It's been a frustrating grind to say the least.
We love Žabák🌚
air rb is just a-10's vs su-25's lol it basically became a gang war in 10.0 br also the a-10 late varients sweep the floor vs the rooks. best time to grind rn with the a10
do you think giving every plane greater than 8.7 br would solve this problem
I’m so angry about the br increase. I would not have bought. I’ve requested a refund and threatened them with an Unfair Trading claim of false advertising with the UK ombudsman.
Nice Topper Harley ref :^)
This thing IRL is a Furnas it gives massive amounts of heat off its crazy. the R95SH or R-195s The engines are noted for ease of operation, high reliability and combat survivability. They can withstand 23mm round hits, and retain operability after considerable damage (combat proven cases). Sukhoi Su-25 has the Soyuz / Gavrilov R-195s turbojet engines but Gaijin WT wiki doesn't show a thing about this Jet in the tech tree. But from what has been written about this jet it does 58 m/s climb and this game says 62m/s climb with no upgraded stuff. So already they screwed it up. But hey its a video game and Bias prolly is a thing 😆 The R-195 was built for the Su39 which im guessing will eventually show up since this is Su25k is here.
DEFYN Is wrong in my opinion, as it mostly depends on the player, in my opinion. I can grind very well, and destroy bases very well with this thing, in Realistic Battles...
fro-....... **FRONGUS**
Frog!
I dont get it this is considered balances but the milan will be op with a bit better missles
I think Ive killed more su-25s in 1 day with guns then I've killed all other planes combined (at 9.3+) in 1 or 2 years it's crazy, I'm really not a gun guy with high tier jets but even for me it's a turkey shoot
@Deathwing21
Жыл бұрын
What aircraft did you use?
All frot, no foog
imo this plane is great, tho the R-60MK´s absolute dogshit, I mainly fly this in sim and 9/10 missiles I shoot miss, even without flaring. And I am not doing any fancy pants launches which Magics can and R-60MK should be able to do, idk what it is, it just loses the lock sometimes even when target is flying practically straight.
Anyone played the new Vautour? Is it any good?
Looking forward to the Mig-23BN lol...
would you recommend either of the special spitfires that are on sale for a couple days?
@matstick199
Жыл бұрын
Which ones are on sale?
@stormjet814
Жыл бұрын
@@matstick199 Plagis's and prenderghast's
@matstick199
Жыл бұрын
@@stormjet814 plagis used to be king back when the max rank for prems was 4
Till this thing gets nerfed into oblivion or the a10 gets its proper performance. I won’t be playing warthunder. The bias is absolutely fucked.
the BR change was expected tbh. 9.7 seems fine for this plane
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
The BR change is justified. releasing it at 9.3 so more people buy to then instantly bump it up is not
@Wotplaya4
Жыл бұрын
Supposedly the Su-25 was meant to be released at 9.7 and not 9.3 (like on dev server). This was hinted before in the dev stream. Anyways, no matter the reason, it comes off as Gaijin trying to make some extra money which is definitely not outside the realm of possibilities.