Thanks for the nice comments Phil! :)

@reddoggie100

7 жыл бұрын

Nice reviews by both of you guys. Very helpful. Bought the BE OD and it's GREAT!

@CreamFreshCream

6 жыл бұрын

You're awesome, Pete!

@richstudio924

6 жыл бұрын

Pete, just want to say that I love your demos. They inspire me to experiment and play a lot more.

@RealMNeutral31

5 жыл бұрын

Same here. Great demos Pete and Phil.

@guitarlobos5069

5 жыл бұрын

Pete Thorn THANKS PETE FOR SHARING YOUR TREMENDOUS ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE OF EQUIPMENT

AB comparisson by clicking time *Friedman OB 2:30 / 3:26 *MXR 5150 2:49 / 3:13

The BE-OD has a Gain trim pot adjustment under the back plate. that adds gain or lessen the gain .

This review just helped me choose the 5150 over the BE-OD. They both sound amazing. The MXR has the noise gate, boost and to me sounds a little better.

Better, clearer and direct guitar sound on your videos now. Thank you Phil. Very enjoyable to see your videos now.

The 5150 is like having an extra pedal because of the noise gate. A win/win

@PapaSancho666

5 жыл бұрын

I just received mine and that was exactly why i bought it. It is a great pedal

@Mist_R

4 жыл бұрын

@@PapaSancho666 I heard it doesn't entirely get rid of the noise at a high gain setting. Have you noticed?

@PapaSancho666

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mist_R Yes, high gain settings, plus active pickups, you will still get some noise. I am currently awaiting the Cock Blocker noise gate from SMG to add to my chain.

@DrKennyWang

Жыл бұрын

I own a 5150 and it’s my favorite overdrive ever. I still have an OCD that I keep on a lighter gain setting, but yea, 5150 owns

I just got a BE-OD sent over from the U.S (entirely because of the Pete Thorn review. what an awesome player and reviewer and cool dude). i'm not a big gear guy. i've been gigging with my jcm800's and an od pedal since i started playing but i couldnt help myself. i used it at a gig last night, set my amp up just on the edge of breakup and ran thru the BE. i had a bunch or regulars tell me its the best ive sounded. really love the pedal. Thanks Pete Thorn for some awesome reviews and thanks Phil for a great comparison vid.

@brendonriley

5 жыл бұрын

Al Iskandar which JCM800 do you have?

Thank you for the video sir, it's pretty awesome to see your reviews on gear and the like, I've enjoyed your vids for some time and have always found them helpful

I own both, and they are both great. Very similar sounding. But love the noise gate in the MXR.

Hi Philip, great review! And an honest comparison. I was quite surprised to hear so little difference between them! Thanks.

5+ years after this review and Phil's prediction that pedals replicating amps becoming common has come true. Nostradamus of gear!

The EVH 5150 Overdrive wins to my ears since I felt the Friedman brighter and dirtier in this comparison. Thanks for doing this video!

Glad you did the comparison between the two. It helps.

I enjoy both, thank you for the excellent review!

Thanks for this comparison. Great video as always!

I A/B'd these about a month ago - both good - after about a half hour of testing - the 5150 won by a slim margin - for two reasons - the low end sub is more resonant (more bass) which I need, with a tele style axe & the smart gate knob (a game changer) ! Both killer boxes though.

I was looking for reviews of this pedal and you just upload this video , thats why we need to subscribe to good channels like yours..

I found this to be a very informative video. Thanks for making this.

I had the 5150 pedal. I did not feel it made my blackstar amp sound like a 5150iii. So I returned the pedal and sold the amp and bought a used 5150ii 1x12. nothing compares to the real thing. Love your videos! keep up the great work.

@larrytate1657

7 жыл бұрын

How are the evh 5150 for versatility and recording in studio?

@philie91

7 жыл бұрын

I haven't recorded with it, but I will tell you I love the sound. You don't really get a "clean" sound, but that is what I am not about. so it fits me like a glove.

@ayeapprove

6 жыл бұрын

Did you run in front of the amp or the fx loop?

@ehoc42

6 жыл бұрын

I feel like certain types of amps work better than others when having a distortion pedal going into the amps clean channel. The 5150 pedal sounds pretty bad going into my Blackstar HT club 40 but great into the clean channel of my Fender Bassbreaker 15. I suspect the pedal might sound better in the fx loop of the Blackstar, bypassing the clean channel preamp

The 13 year old in me cracked up when you said "First, let's go for the brown eye" LMAO

Just got my BE-OD. Played it through my Tiny Terror and it really breathed new life into the amp. What a dynamic, punchy, raw little powerhouse. I may have to check out the Dirty Shirley as the gain (I would never said this in my teens) is way too over the top for me.

Nice comparison demo. Thanks!

I have the 5150. I like it. Thank you for your excellent video reviews!

thank you bro for your badasses demos :)

Great job Phillip!

I was intrigued by the Fender Bassman portal when it came out but didn't get one. Then the EVH Overdrive that was recently released really piqued my interest; it sounds amazing. I agree that it's something we'll probably start seeing more of; cloning is so common digitally, but pedal versions of amp clones are still coming into their own. Great vid!

I got news for you those guys were as pedal nuts as most of us. I am 70 and I was 'there'in London with my band 'Tallis' We did not use many pedals because there weren't many. A few rast End stores would give us all a heads up when anything new arrived. I always remember the day Steve Howe of Yes sat in front of me for his turn with a pedal. LOL

First, thank you for your time and effort on doing a demo. I got some affirmation on the MXR 5150, it is a cool pedal. I was interested on hearing the Friedman as well. I don't think I got a chance to hear either one to their full capacity, it would be nice to actually hear the differences on the pedals options, keeping everything straight up is ok for ONE example. You have a great mic and the quality of the sound comes through good on YT,. In saying that, some guitarists would appreciate a more in depth sound review on each, hard to hear a real difference when you limit the levels greatly. just my two cents...thanks again.

"just a hair more" you rock man! love your videos!

Thanks for the review l already have the 5150 so I'll stick with it! Thanks again!!

ROG has been doing this for decades, not really a new idea at all but it's cool that you like it. Thanks for the demo

Great review !

They sound remarkably similar and I wouldn't have necessarily thought that going in. Both sounded great though

The more I hear the 5150 pedal here and there, the more I want one. So far I didn't hear anyone making it sound bad.

Great,, iv just orderd a 5150 mint $140 shipped from reverb, thx phil. U hit it square with pete thorn, a guitar players guitar player and a gentlemans gentelman .

Great demo! Surprisingly rad in equal amounts. I'm still biased towards the MXR because 1) I love Dunlop and their pedals and 2) the noise gate and boost are priceless. MXR says the latter button adds more compression but it just doesn't feel like compression and more like a button that gets everything in your tone to click.

Hi Phil, I am still using my rig that I bought from your shop, 5150 mxr into a 68 custom deluxe as you just demoed. I also added a TC spark boost after the mxr. Run the amp at 3, then I tend to use the 5150 for crunch, and the boost for leads. Anything after 5 on volume, I pretty much just use spark booster for leads, and the amp does the rest. It's a wonderful sounding amp in a band, it cuts great. I had a band playing before me borrow the rig and I could not believe how good it sounded live. Thank you!

@PhillipMcKnight

7 жыл бұрын

Im glad you like it. I ended up following you and got the 68 Deluxe as well and love it. I drove my self crazy with six diferant Fender amps before I killed them all and got the 68. LOL

@pablovilan

6 жыл бұрын

Yo hago lo mismo, hermoso sonido usando el 5150 como mid gain + 1 pedal de booster // I do the same, beautiful sound using the 5150 like a mid-gain + a pedal boost

well if I owned either of these I wouldn't be disappointed at all!

Hey Phil,great video!I have the EVH pedal it rocks

Good stuff Philip!!!🎸

What a coincidence. You happen to be playing through the amp that I'm trying to find a good overdrive pedal for haha, thanks!

Hey Phillip. Just a quick question. How are you recording your videos? It seems that you are not directly micing the cabinet which can give the viewer a slightly different tone. Let me know, just curious. Keep up the great videos.

It's never the same when you take a pedal to mimic an amp. What you DO get is an interesting sound. I love the tone I get from running my Vox AC15 channel from my Digitech through my Fender 63 Bassman. Actually sounds a lot like a Mesa Boogie TransAtlantic...lol

Waiting on my Be-Od to show up. Can't wait! As far as amp in a box pedals go, Amt Legend pedals are fantastic. I have the P2 pedal and it emulated the Peavey 5150 extremely well. They have a whole series that emulate Mesa's, Fender, Marshal, Bogner, Vht, Orange, and others. You should check them out.

I've had both, I still have the Friedman. I run in the front of my DSL40 and got it dialed in for that 80s Hair Metal sound. Very cool. I use the MXR Metal Muff for modern gain tones. Both of these pedals will live on my board forever!

@MaestroJericho

3 жыл бұрын

up front on the clean channel or fx loop?

I personally own the EVH and it far exceeds my expectations!

great video !

man the BE OD sounds good,even distorted you could hear the definition in all the notes

I used to think the wampler euphoria was the best OD pedal I ever heard, but now I'm going with the 5150. Ed's exact tone in a box.

Good comparison. I agree, I think the BE-OD sounds a bit better, a bit fuller and more open than the MXR. But that's taking nothing away from the MXR, which is an excellent sound in its own right. The two are a very close match. Compliments on getting the EQs on the two pedals matched up just right. Well done.

great demo mailman - thanks -i'm buying a BE and also - i like your posts on rigtalk sunscribed

The Friedman works perfectly with my orange rocker 15 clean channel, my tube amp did not like my MXR 5150 a bit, sounded hollow. I traded towards the Friedman and couldn’t be happier!

I own the 5150 pedal and it's absolutely killer

These both do what they're meant to really well, and paired with the right speakers I'm sure you could hardly tell the difference between them and the real thing. I'd say these would be super great for gigging, if you dont wanna haul around/buy such an expensive amp, but for recording I'd even rent out the real deal just because. But that's just me

thank you for the review Phillip. I was wondering about both of those pedals. And it's great to hear it through an affordable amp. not a friedman. those reviews don't say much to the musician with not alot of money. I would even like to hear it through a very cheap amp. just to hear if it would make it a whole lot better. thanks again.

Thank you Phillip for your honest review! I was tempted to buy the Friedman BE OD but now I will probably stick with my Angry Charlie.

Friedman is mind blowing in person, especially when paired with a good clean channel. I ended up buying without ever seeing a review and just playing it myself

Wow, 2 unbelievable good sounding pedals. I'm no pedal guy whatsoever, but these two, wow! In my eyes (or ears...) the Friedman gets more of the typical British JCM 800 sound, while the EVH gets the searing high gain of the amp it's representing prefect! I probably would prefer the Friedman! BTW, I love that you don't play for minutes and minutes (more to show skills than sound 😉) but give a short but accurate representation of the sound! Love your videos!

question have you ever thought about emailing a pedal straight into the power amp return so you can really hear what the pedal sounds like? not digging it you I love your channel man you're one of the best reviewers I have ever seen! from building amplifiers I learned about the EQ sweeps on them and how much each stage really affects the tone

also worth considering, the Friedman takes up less room on your pedalboard

@CC-8891

5 жыл бұрын

The mxr is really small too compared to other distortion pedals.

Speaking of pedals that emulate amps... I just bought the MojoHand FX Superlative today, which emulates the drive channel of a vintage Supro Amp. & does it very well. Have you ever tried MojoHand FX Pedals? MojoHand FX were recently acquired by Cusack Pedals. I work at Vig Guitars in St Paul, MN. I have played through hundreds of drive pedals. & MojoHand FX makes some of my favorites. I don't know anything about building pedals. But their pedals are well constructed, they're affordable, & they don't add any unwanted white noise when not being played. Plus they sound awesome.

If you haven't already, check out the AMT line of preamp pedals. I personally use an R2 and P2 (Recto and Peavey voiced). Now, my choice backfired a little as they're very ( VERY) similar, so, I'll be trading in one for something of a lower gain crunch voice, possibly the M2 (JCM800 voice). I personally think they're really cool little units with a lot of features ( separate pedal, preamp and cab emulated outs?) for not a lot of cash!

Bogner did the same thing with the "cloning" the Ecstacy Blue and Red Channels of the Ecstacy head into pedals.

Had the BE OD twice and love it but after selling my pedals/board and going basic, I'm ready to try the 5150 pedal (I need a metal distortion) :)

Both is great ❤️

The BE is a monster, the secret to this pedal is the internal dip switch, you have to bring way down on that ( some will prefer the more saturated tone ) but bringing the inherent gain into a amp on the edge of break up is just monster tone without losing control of the gain.

Last time I was this early, I came before the time these statements were done to absolute death...wait... Hehheh, great video. I'm liking the sounds of that Friedman pedal

How about a DIY how to setup a Wet/Dry for the bed room player. Great job keep it up!

Sweet, not sure I ever need that much gain but they both sound cool.

@lespaulplaya93

7 жыл бұрын

I have the BE overdrive. It has an internal gain pot to lower the gain. I set the internal gain pot to about halfway so that the gain all the way down gets some Angus Young tones, in the middle it does Slash pretty well, and the gain maxed (still with the internal gain pot set halfway) gets into the Steve Stevens territory!

@lespaulplaya93

7 жыл бұрын

+Brian M No problem! You just have to keep playing with the internal gain pot until you're happy!

Hi Philip, as always thanks for the great review! What do you think about the Blackstar HT-Dual? Would you be able to get your hands on one of those? :D

Bought the BE OD pedal over a month ago and the Volume knob has never worked like it should. Gonna exchange it for a new one, although i might just return it as i expected better from a company like Friedman.

Great video Phillip. Have you tried AMT legend amp series pedals and or their preamps? Based on the many videos found on KZread, the sounds of AMT are quite good Regards

The EVH is warmer and full, the Friedman is more bright and tight

Both are amazing. Can you make a comparison with Plexitone Single vs Friendman BE vs MXR 5150?

The EVH Sounds better. The BE-OD is a good pedal but it lacks the Mids that are surely present in the EVH. Nice demo Mr. Phillip !

@alxdrksoul

4 жыл бұрын

There's already a BE-OD deluxe with 2 channels and mid knobs :)

@KM-302

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Evh nails that tone but is also a much more versatile pedal. It's low to mid gain tones are its superior advantage and it has that perfect mid Eddie tone. I've had both and the mxr is a better built pedal too imo.

I have both of these, I do agree they do sound similar and are awesome sounding od pedals. I also have a BE100 and has nowhere near the gain available on the pedal, tbh.

totally agree on pete thorn.

Have you checked out the Catalinbread foundation series? They have pedals that sound like various fenders, marshalls, and a few others so you can "use" different amps during the same show...

EVH. Is happening.Brown eye sounds good too..I own the evh...very happy

i just bought the BE OD last week. It's a beast. It works best on a super clean amp. I've been using mine through a Strymon Iridium set up on the Chime setting w/ a 4x12 cab. The mix of the VOX and Marshall tones are pure heaven. I find the petal seems to compliments my PRS McCarty 594 better than with my Les Paul. (The Les Paul seems to work better with the Strymon Sunset in my opinion) I play it through my Marshall amp too, but it can be little much running a Marshall pedal through a Marshall amp in my opinion. I'm going to pick up a VOX custom AC30 head and VOX 2x12 cab very soon. Can't wait to run the Marshall and VOX in a wet / dry set up.

@IndyRockStar

2 жыл бұрын

UPDATE: Bought the AC30 Custom Head and Cab. Had it for 1 month. Couldn't get the sound I was after. Turns out I prefer the AC30 in the Iridium more than the actual amp. Took the AC30 back to Guitar Center and bought another Marshall and a Helix LT. I also bought a Friedman Dirty Shirley pedal. After some tinkering, if you run the Dirty Shirley though one amp and the BE-OD through the other amp (connected with an Orange Detonator) then you get a glorious monster tone that will shake the walls. Rock On!

i had a marshall jackhammer, it was supossed to emulate the sound from a jcm800 and jcm2000... it actually worked amazingly and i think costs like 80 bucks

I feel like certain types of amps work better than others when having a distortion pedal going into the amps clean channel. The 5150 pedal sounds pretty bad going into my Blackstar HT club 40 but great into the clean channel of my Fender Bassbreaker 15. I suspect the pedal might sound better in the fx loop of the Blackstar, bypassing the clean channel preamp

Agreed, Pete's reviews of the Friedman were super detailed and he's such a great player too. I like the noise gate feature when dealing with that much gain... How does the 5150 mxr compare to the LBX or its big brothers?

@valentinpau1434

4 жыл бұрын

You should check out Voron Guitar channel. He made a good shoutout between the Mxr, the EVH Lunchbox and the 50 watts version.

Great video. I think the Mxr is better. more dynamic range. not convinced either are relevant tones.

@mr.dolittledooboo3519

6 жыл бұрын

John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech cam you recommend me a relevant distortion pedal

Too late. I got both. Love both. Will not give up both.

@thorpenator9148

Жыл бұрын

What do you want for them?...haha

Great Video as always Phillip. Would you say running this through a solid state would still sound like the 5150?

The MXR edges because of the cool noise gate.

Good videos

I must be going deaf, they sounded identical to me. o.0

@branislavhavlik570

7 жыл бұрын

Me to

@samueldonato3472

4 жыл бұрын

TheButcher6969 the only difference I personally heard, was that the Friedman had more Treble range than the EVH.

@stk7778

4 жыл бұрын

agreed. they are remarkably similar in basic tone. the friedmen did seem to have a bit more liquid spice and clarity on the lead tone and 5150 a bit more pleasant warmth on the staccato riffing....having more gain dynamics and a boost tho....kinda leans it toward the 5150

@alexmurphy5289

3 жыл бұрын

Very similar

I have a Fender Super Reverb and the BE-OD "Marshallizes" this non-master volume amp pretty convincingly I think. Recently I bought and returned the Friedman JJ 100 Jerry Cantrel & then a Small Box 50 (niether of which were non-master volume type amps). Both of the Friedman amps had this terrible buzzy type of distortion that I just couldn't like. I also have a Marshall 1959 SLP Plexi head non-master volume head and cab. Obviously the non-master volume amps I've mentioned (i.e. Fender Super & Marshall Plexi) make great pedal platforms which is why I liked the BE-OD pedal so much through either of my non-master volume amps. This pedal through those two amps just scorched the JJ 100 & Small Box Friedman amps so I determined. Also just to mention that the BE-OD footpedal has an internal trim pot that can and probably should be dialed way way back down otherwise it's hard to get rid of the excessive amount of gain it has on tap. Additionally the "Tight" control knob can make the bass really tight or more loose sounding depending on what you're wanting. Although I have never played the 5150 pedal I suspect that you can get the BE-OD Pedal to tighten up more like the 5150 for that tigher more modern metal sound. The cool thing about the BE-OD pedal is that dialing the knob back to be loose can yeild a more traditional old school looser bass sound as well IMHO. Maybe this makes the BE-OD more versatile? 🤔

Cool shout out to the great Pete Thorn!

Having a pedal that sounds more like an amp is a huge difference vs. a cheap pedal. It is a great idea. A better player will shine even more when they have great sounding gear that they can afford. I prefer rack gear, but my preamp is too noisey for me to use and it costs a lot to have it repaired. I am achieving great tones with out having to spend $3,000- $4,000!

Joyo makes some modeling pedals also. They have the ac tone that is a ac 30, American sound is a fender 57 deluxe, california sound is a Mesa Boogie MK, and the british sound that is a JCM 800. For only 39.99. Their chinese made but i have some joyo pedals and they sound really good. I could never afford my favorite amp a Marshall jcm 800. So i bought a clone by Ceriatone for 1,300 bucks. Turret board point to point hand wired. It's truly an awesome amp. So that can be a option too. There are alot different companies that make all kinds of different clones.

You mentioned that you'd like to have certain amps as pedals. Check out Mad Professor Big Tweedy Drive and Simble if you haven't before! Great, Great pedals from Finland. Haven't tested BTD myself but I have a nice Dumble clone and when comparing my old Fender Tremolux amp with Simble, it sounds 99% identical!

Through my speakers,the E.V.H. was the winner hands down!

02:50 oh my god they sound so similar.

Great as always. Wasn't Friedman the company you said had terrible customer service?

I have both. The Friedman just crushes the evh in tone. It sounds Way better in the brown sound contest for sure.

@bobgure

4 жыл бұрын

Did you find that the gain adjustment in the Friedman wasn't noticeable as described in the video? Thanks.

The BE-OD is extremely noisy--it generates tons of background hiss. You need a good noise gate to make it useful. It also has a internal gain knob not discussed here. The 5150 has both a noise gate and boost built in.

I can hear the acoustic pick attack in these clips. What do they sound like with the amp turned up to gig volume?