Friction Welding on the Lathe Experiment

Experimenting, we take different types of metal and friction weld them togeather on the lathe , by trial and error i show how i get a good result that bond togeather and stand up to a bend test

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  • @capin232
    @capin232 Жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting, hopefully I get to do some testing before I actually have to use this technique. Keep up the great videos, Brian

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Let us know what you learn when you do buddy .

  • @bahmanasgari3370
    @bahmanasgari3370Ай бұрын

    Good job👍

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Ай бұрын

    Thx buddy

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 Жыл бұрын

    This is an interesting process. I commented on someone's channel a week or so back about how I had pretty good success with this technique. You were on the same track with the bevel and I think if you would have slowed the pressure on that one like you did on the later ones, it would have worked much better. What I did was drill a small hole in one side and a corresponding size stick out on the other one and use just enough pressure to get lots of heat a good ways back and then get it red and then back off. I found the least pressure I could use but still get the heat worked best for me. I also wanted to cut or grind the piece horizontal (parallel to the rod) to see what was happening on the inside but never got around to doing it...

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome input Danny thank you , I think I will build off some of your suggestions next time

  • @MBTechnicalClasses
    @MBTechnicalClasses Жыл бұрын

    Intrested process

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    It is and has its place on fixing small shafts . Larger would take a higher amount of hp and could be harder on the machine . May try 1 inch at some point but busy with finishing up the summer . Sept will be a big month for mor projects

  • @tpchlu
    @tpchlu2 ай бұрын

    The success depends on not only the RPM, but also on the pre heat process, the pressure and time that you push two rods together and the flatness of the surfaces on ends of two rods. Different materials can be welded together easily, either two metals or one metal with one non-metal (plastic).

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you tpchlu , there are definarly a few variables with tgis process . Plastice ..... i hadnt thought of that . Good point

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 Жыл бұрын

    I gotta try this method .. Been turning for years and have heard of it but you vid explained it best.. new sub here ,, I have a channel as well . Merry Christmas !

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed the video. It takes a bit of playing around to get it to work well. Some guys will put it in the tool post as well. Once it starts to weld it will grab hard. . Just make sure you don't get wrapped into the lathe. :)

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478

    @shawnmrfixitlee6478

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wrighmachining for sure .. I have a live bearing chuck like yours , just a matter of knowing when to let go, thanks

  • @eg6sivtec
    @eg6sivtec Жыл бұрын

    Hey there! Great channel ! Subscribed!

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks jërémi, glad to have you :)

  • @randallsemrau6911
    @randallsemrau69117 ай бұрын

    Brass is self lubricating, maybe thats why it won't friction weld. Isn't that why it's often utilized as material for the nut in lead screw assemblies?

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    7 ай бұрын

    Very possible :)

  • @tharoncesselli7162
    @tharoncesselli7162 Жыл бұрын

    Did not know this was a thing till now !

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty dar cool buddy !

  • @wantafastz28
    @wantafastz28 Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see it’s not as easy as others make it to be. What is the minimum hp needed you think?

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Im not sure th hp . My 3hp lathe you can hear working on the 1/4 to 3/8 stock im guessing say 1 hp min for that size . I would love it if other guys can try it as well and let us know

  • @stevesrt8
    @stevesrt8 Жыл бұрын

    That’s pretty cool. Are you just learning or do you have some project in mind?

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the odd job, here and there . Just repaied a delt table saw for a friend that had the 3/8 shaft broken off .

  • @roscoepatternworks3471
    @roscoepatternworks3471 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting, have no use for it yet. I wonder if copper would friction weld? Could be that brass is enough of an alloy it won't weld. Good video

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    Maby . My thought was that it was drawing away to much heat. The alum has a much lower melting point and the brass a high point with a hight conductivity. Luck for me i dont work in brass very often . Perhaps i sould try spme copper pipe though

  • @Niels_Dn

    @Niels_Dn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wrighmachining I thought the same on the brass.

  • @roscoepatternworks3471

    @roscoepatternworks3471

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wrighmachining i found this: What metals can be friction welded? Materials Weldable by Friction Stir Aluminium. ... Magnesium. ... Copper and copper alloys. ... Hafnium and zirconium. ... Inconel and superalloys. ... Steel and ferrous alloys. ... Titanium. ... Dissimilar materials.

  • @roscoepatternworks3471

    @roscoepatternworks3471

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Niels_Dn i found a website, may be out of luck on welding brass, due to zinc evaporation.

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    @@roscoepatternworks3471 zink evaporating , awsome idea . Makes sence in a way . Perhaps the zink is drawn out in some way and oxidizes as it decays or evap ? I should test this theory with some copper . If the copper does the same it would be conduction if it welds it would afirm this theory more .

  • @mitchumsport
    @mitchumsportАй бұрын

    the zinc in the brass is messing with you. its melting out / being pushed out of the contact area I think. some kinds of brass have different content, i.e. some silicon which would make them weld a bit better or differently

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Ай бұрын

    I like your perspective makes sence

  • @jamallwilliams5852
    @jamallwilliams58522 ай бұрын

    It’s because brass is softer

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    2 ай бұрын

    Very possible , but the alu would weld realy well . One guy sugested flux as an issue . Perhaps more experimenting some day

  • @jamallwilliams5852

    @jamallwilliams5852

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Wrighmachining would love to see it🙏

  • @michaelallen1432
    @michaelallen14323 ай бұрын

    Try some brazing flux

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    3 ай бұрын

    I had not thought of that. Good point

  • @IonIon-wc6pc
    @IonIon-wc6pc Жыл бұрын

    Rpm???

  • @Wrighmachining

    @Wrighmachining

    Жыл бұрын

    I did it between 800-1500 rpm. It's takes lots of speed and power