wanna update my previous comment. this is by far the easiest plane ive ever printed. everything is laid out for you, you can use any Pla+ from almost any manufacturer, and the slicing profile doesn't vary all that much. you can make two jets with a single roll of filament and still have some left over. i used du-bro hinges and bypassed the need for TPU, saving me even more money. im halfway through the first plane(making two. one pla+, one LWpla) after just one afternoon. im using preformed LWpla and despite LWpla being temperamental, im getting good results. all of his settings and orientations work great with one exception: left and right wing 2. for those parts youll want a large brim and a small brim tolerance, which will give you maximum bed adhesion. i used a 25mm brim but that wont fit on the specified printer dimensions, but i have a large format printer, youll need exactly 280mm sq to pull this off. youll also need support for the middle part of the base. dont use tree, just normal, and set your support angle very high(i did 89) so that it doesnt fill the wing spar hole with support. this plane's electronics mirror the "millennium flerken" from flitetest. you can simply order the flerken's power pack and you're good to go. i have solved almost any idiosyncrasy possible with this model. reply to this with your questions and ill hook you up. filament+$12, hardware=$20, carbon fiber=$17, powertrain=$45, flysky i6x=$80 3-4s 2000-3000=$25. if you already have batteries and radio, you can fly this bad boy for less than $100. Oliver definetly deserves a coffe for this. be sure to show the OC some love. thx for turning me on to this jeff. much love and soar long!!!

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

This is valuable info from @technicallyaddicted 🙏🍻especially the part about the support angle because the V2 Scimitar needs supports in a few places. The only thing I can add because I'm not good at 3d printing but good at FPV is to buy a radio with ELRS protocol instead of the Flysky I6X which has terrible range, I have one. But ELRS (Express LRS) is like TBS Crossfire but cheaper. It has INCREDIBLE range. It was tested out to over 100km on a wing. Flysky failsafes after only like 300m. I'd hate to failsafe after printing a plane for a week like me. So the Radiomaster Boxer or Radiomaster Zorro ELRS versions is what you want. If you want really cheap but decent the Jumper T Lite ELRS or Radiomaster Pocket ELRS are also good. No failsafes on these guys at a lower packet rate.

@Technicallyaddicted

Ай бұрын

@@derelictfpv do you need ELRS if you’re not flying FPV? Does the i6x really have a max range of only 300m?!? I have my i6x tied to my freewing F22 which can do over 150 mph. You’re making me nervous that I’ll fly beyond my range. Should I get a different radio for my jets? What’s a good radio under $200? I need range, fidelity, and a minimum of 10 channels.

@Technicallyaddicted

Ай бұрын

@@derelictfpv I’ve figured out the whole model. I’ll be flying it when weather permits. Lmk if you run into any more issues.

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

@@Technicallyaddicted Just saw this. Ya that i6x is good for only close range. I used to failsafe all the time and my quad would drop out of the sky. I've failsafed at like 85m only because I went too low and kind of behind a hill. That would never happen with ELRS. It's the main radio protocol now and you just never really have to worry about your radio link. I have a bunch of ELRS radio's. I have the Jumper T Lite ELRS version, Radiomaster Pocket Elrs, Radiomaster Zorro Elrs and a TBS Mambo with an ELRS module in the back. TBS Crossfire is just slightly older than ELRS but ELRS was reverse engineered off of Crossfire and is open source so it hurt Crossfire a lot. If I was getting a radio for planes now I would buy a Radiomaster Boxer. It's a full size radio but not massive. If you like gamepad style radio's then the Radiomaster Zorro ELRS is good. That's what I use for my planes. But the battery is small so you need to piggyback a battery to it. So in a nutshell, the radiomaster Boxer is a super popular radio these days with 1000mw ELRS built in. The Zorro has 250mw. The Radiomaster Pocket has 250mw. And the Jumper T lite has 100mw. Go with the Boxer.

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

@@Technicallyaddicted Ya Radiomaster and ELRS are the standard now for Radios and radio Protocol. ELRS is open source so you can use receivers from any manufacturer. There should be like 16 channels available. The Radiomaster Boxer ELRS has enough switches and has trim switches I'm pretty sure. Good for planes and quads. Make sure to get the ELRS version.

Just bought my first printer (Ender V3 SE) and this video has me confident that I can finally get into the RC hobby! Thanks mate.

@JeffDoesThis

6 ай бұрын

You can do it!

@LehtusBphree2flyFPV

4 ай бұрын

I LOVE my ender 3 V3 SE it's the best beginner FDM printer

bro this is one of the best videos i have found in a long time

@JeffDoesThis

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

Printing mine right now. White pla+ for fuselage and white polymaker LW PLA for wings.

Nice and comprehensive video, thanks for it! 👍 Also sharing iNAV setup is very appreciated! 👍

@JeffDoesThis

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I just bought several new 3D printers in last week's to print LW-PLA, PLA , TPU , Nylon , ABS , Carbon fiber , my next will be for printing metal parts..good luck with your endeavours ..

Thanks for doing the whole Inav setup in the simple no BS way. in the proces of printing Olivier's Rifter 2 and have the same FC. Think they're both pretty similar set up wise. subbed!

@JeffDoesThis

6 ай бұрын

Awesome! Just waiting for mother nature to calm down with the winds here in Central Illinois. More videos to come.

@FATSNAIL-FPV

6 ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThis down here in the Netherlands it's rain/snow/friggin freezing balls. Work/private life is currently taking up my time to fly anyway, so building quads and an ar900 while printing for all those. Olivier's Rifter2 get's the night shift on the printer😇

Thanks a lot

You have inspired me to buy a 3d printer sir

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

Get one! I bought the Ender 3 S1 Pro and I have been loving it!

thank you

@JeffDoesThis

4 ай бұрын

You're welcome

Would love to see a version of the twin tractor that is a VTOL. Looks very cool as is though!

@JeffDoesThis

5 ай бұрын

Noted!

@samernajia

5 ай бұрын

I wonder, if you do, if it is possible to transition the 3rd motor to a pusher as well when going from vertical flight to forward flight. This way, the 3rd motor isn't dead weight and can add speed and range

really amazing, I have tried to print a VTOL too. However, the surface of printed VTOL is always failed :(

With the wings eg L2, it says no supports but it would be impossible to print certain parts without supports. Any ideas?

Have you thought about printing this in Bambu Lab aero filament? I bet it would save a bunch of weight!

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

LW-PLA is too soft/fragile for my style of flying with this plane. But a long range fpv plane wouldn't be a bad idea.

Hi Geff, any chance you could put a link for your Ender v3 Pro files that are ready to print. As I'm struggling with cura?

eSUN is the best for TPU and all other filaments it's all i use now it's eSUN

Jeff, I have a question about how fuselage 3 screws to fuselage 4. I can glue it but I see holes I think are for screws? Thanks for your videos

@blue_canyon

2 ай бұрын

I believe the little holes are there for you to place small bits of 1.75mm filament into as a way for lining up the parts to be glued together. At least that's what I did.

Does it make sense to use PLA Lightweight for the plane? Maybe for the whole or instead PLA or TPU?

@JeffDoesThis

5 ай бұрын

I don't know? I have never used LW PLA. This plane is still going and still flying great.

Hi, could you possibly make a video or post a picture/drawing of how you wired the electronics? This is my first attempt at building an RC plane and I am a bit confused.

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

Just watch some other FPV plane build videos and it's all basically the same thing.

Hey bro, thanks for the videos, pls may you clarify regarding the carbon spars. Olivier's description of the Scimitar recommends, "Main wing spar : Carbon tube 8 x 500mm Secondary wing spars : 2x Carbon tubes 6 x 125mm". So are there 3 spars all together?

@timotreber4423

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, i got the same question. How long the Carbon tube are? And on the body part (Fuselage 3) isnt a hole for the smaler tube. Its closed, so we need 3 tubes? And is this glued then? In your Video the tube is consistent. @JeffDoesThis

@olgoz1

5 ай бұрын

@@timotreber4423 It is 3 tubes all together. One is 8mm diameter x 500mm length and two are 6mm diameter x 125mm length. The bigger one goes straight through the fuse and into the wings. The smaller ones go into the fuse on either side but not straight through it. They don't need gluing-in. They sit in slots in the printed fuse. Enjoy! :p

@timotreber4423

5 ай бұрын

@@olgoz1 Oh okay, thank you very much. I was just a little confused because in the video both tubes go completely through the body.

hey where do i download inav?

Im new to RC planes and i wanted to make something like the skywalker or a SonicModell AR Wing 900 but i want to 3d print it and make its wingspan 800-900cm. I saw that is is possible like on the website 3dlabprint but they dont have thoes models and i searched the web and still nothing. Do you have any reccomendations to making a bigger plane unlike this 80cm one? It will be a lot of help thank you in advanced!

@JeffDoesThis

2 ай бұрын

I do not. That is above my skill level.

Do these printed planes fly better than the foam ones ?

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

This one flies great! I have a AtomRC Dolphin and this flies just a good. This is also my first/only 3d printed plane.

What software is used to open design files? So that it can be printed, I'm still learning to use FreeCAD software, Thanksss....

@literally_not_kevin

4 ай бұрын

You can use any slicer software to print the parts. To open the actual design files tho, you'll need Fusion360. But Olivier just has a folder of the .3mf files ready to import into your slicer.

@rezaalf7930

4 ай бұрын

@@literally_not_kevin Thank you, I'll try it soon...

How much do all the parts cost together

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

All of the links are below. Just add them up.

print it with PCTG - it wont get destroyed by the UV and temp

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

What is pctg? Do you mean petg?

9 ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThis no, I mean PCTG. its a modified version of petg

@JeffDoesThis

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the heads up on the PCTG filament. I have been reading up on it since you suggested it, and it appears to be better than PETG. I'm going to try and print this plane with it. I will update with a video if it works out.

9 ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThisno problem. The only problem is that it requires around 260 C which is a max on my printer. Also, use glue stick for bed adhesion - without it it’s very hard to take off the print :)

Can I use petg instead of pla?

@JeffDoesThis

7 ай бұрын

I would say Yes, 100%. You may have to adjust the profiles a little bit for the different material but it should be good to go.

@georgestone8099

7 ай бұрын

PETG would be better. It's a lot less brittle than PLA, which is perfect for this kind of application. Also UV stable.

@JeffDoesThis

7 ай бұрын

But, can be harder to print for a beginner.

@georgestone8099

7 ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThis That's true, yes. IMO the trick is a very hot bed. Around 90 degrees, on a textured plate, and 250ish for nozzle temp. That gets me some rock solid bed adhesion which is the primary issue with PETG I think. Stringing can be sorted out with a lighter after.

@ericevans6080

7 ай бұрын

I would think that would add a bunch of weight you do not want. You can strengthen the PLA by using polycrylic minwax, especially if you are going to paint it.

3D printing RC aircraft is significantly more difficult than YT leads you to believe. Your settings need to be perfect, and if not, you’re in for a headache. LWPla is a finicky, temperamental material. I’m having so many issues, and I’ve tried everything. I’ll go into detail on everything if requested. Please help me. I’m open to any suggestions. Thanks a bunch!

@JeffDoesThis

Ай бұрын

This was printed with PLA+ NOT Light Weight PLA. Also, I disagree with it being "significantly more difficult than YT leads you to believe". I only had my 3d printer for 3 months before i printed this plane. It printed perfectly first try. I did however follow the instructions laid out by the designer. People are in a hurry these days and try to skip steps, you just got to follow the steps. My advice, DON"T USE LWPLA!

@Technicallyaddicted

Ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThis you just justified what I said lmao. Did you miss the part where I followed the instructions precisely and even went through a string test? There isn’t a mainline YT 3D channel that I have not already consulted.

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

@@Technicallyaddicted What problems are you having? I'm printing this exact plane and following Jeff and Olivers directions and using PLA+. So far things are turning out alright. And I'm definitely not great at 3d printing.

@Technicallyaddicted

Ай бұрын

@@derelictfpv stringing and blistering mainly. All of this is with overture airpla which is prefoamed(I just learned that there is a stark difference between prefoamed and non prefoamed LWPla). I’ve been told it’s impossible to eliminate stringing with LWpla. I’m also getting blistering which I’ve been told is a zhop problem, but I have Zhop and surface mode off. I’ve tried optimizing the tool path, changing every setting related to retraction, I’ve run every print test imaginable, and now I think my nozzle is leaking because I’m getting this awful black liquid(I’m assuming it’s the byproduct of the foaming action. Despite being prefoamed, it still foams a little bit more). I switched to Pla+ and haven’t had any problems at all. There’s some weird Z seam artifacts but that’s not a big deal, I just attack it with a sander. I’m tempted to print this exact plane with the sunlu Pla+ I have, and also try to get it in LWPla for comparison sake. I’ve got about 6 months of experience with 3D printing and I wouldn’t call myself an expert, but I’m becoming increasingly confident in my abilities. I thank you for taking the time to even ask this. I’m always willing to help and learn and I appreciate people like you. Printer: flsun v400 klipper Filament sunlu Pla+\overture airPla Avg setting: 190nozzle, 60bed, minimal retraction, no surface mode, no clipping, no infill, walls as PDF requests. Printing LWpla exactly as eclipson says to does not provide a sufficient result, and I believe that due to the difference between prefoamed and not LWPla. Using my own custom settings using the eclipson pdf as a reference with basic Pla+ has made functional aircraft parts and successful prints, although they are kinda heavy. As you said earlier, I may just abandon LWPla altogether.

@derelictfpv

Ай бұрын

Ive been printing for a few years but almost exclusively TPU. It sounds like you know way more than I do about 3d printing. I calibrated my esteps with PLA but I didnt realize my flow was too much. So I ended up compensating by lowering my extruder value. Eventually I got it printing clean to print this plane. But I need to go back and set my flow to 100 and try it with my proper estep calibration. Im just afraid to change anything because its printing pretty nicely right now.

now mount an rpg round on it

Adding music to a video shows you know nothing of making technical videos. Attaching the GPS antenna on the wing instead of the fuselage, shows you know nothing of aerodynamics.

@JeffDoesThis

3 ай бұрын

After your mom left my house this morning, she said the same thing. I guess only good a one thing.

@piconano

3 ай бұрын

@@JeffDoesThis You are a man child and it shows.

@skathious1

Ай бұрын

Everyone else being able to hear his voice perfectly fine over the music shows we don't have boomer hearing like you. The fact that his model flies great shows you know nothing about the drag coefficient of that antenna.

@piconano

Ай бұрын

@@skathious1 Learn to mind your own business. People leave comments for the channel owner, not a nobody troll like you.

@briandugan4691

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@skathious1 Hey leave him alone he’s obviously a highly intelligent person. Also, he’s posting his valuable opinions on the internet which means he’s exceptionally brave.

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