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Not blowing smoke- but allow me to gratuitously thank the both of you. Not only have you re-kindled my love for comics and art in general, but you have shown me so many things that I never knew existed. I have been an avid doodler, comic collector, anime and manga fan, and fan of fine illustrated art for over 30 years. Watching your channel has not only taught me countless things about the medium of comics, but it has given me the gift of a desire to draw again. I will never be a professional artist- and I don't think I want to be, but constantly consuming knowledge about one of my favorite mediums has given me so much joy. I have had to go through all of my unread long boxes just to see references of what you two discuss in person. From the bottom of my heart, thank you both... And I will share and spread your videos on any platform that I can- just keep the videos coming. That was the most long-winded and wordy 'thank you' I've ever written.

When I met Frank Miller in London a couple of years back I had him and Klaus Janson sign a copy of this, and I've never ever seen a fuller example or bigger example of Miller's signature - every single letter is there and he signed across the whole title page. I've looked and can't find another version like it. I went to my LCS to ask the owner what he recommended I should get signed. He directed me to this artefact edition but I couldn't afford it (it took me long enough to save enough for Miller's signing in the first place), so he sold it to me as cost as he thought it would be well worth it. Legend.

I think the corners are clipped to allow the art to line up correctly in front of the rostrum camera. There would be a matching series of diagonals taped to the rostrum so that the boards line up quickly and accurately, and save a lot of mucking about with a camera that is not at a convenient height to look through.(it's up a big pole above the table) You set it up once, and then tape a set of guides down. Then by trimming the corners, using the art as the guide, as to where you trim, you can compensate for any variations in where on each page the art has ended up, and every photo is square and level. This makes it much easier for the people trying to print the actual books, as the film supplied to them is dead on.

Miller credits Jim Shooter as one of his biggest influences. He once said that Shooter was the first person he heard use the word "storytelling" when discussing comic art. I think a lot of the layouts he uses were actually inspired by Shooter's advice, rather than something Miller had to sell him on.

34:01 I love that the legendary Death of Elektra issue was done on DC Comics bristol board

@PeterPalmiotti

3 жыл бұрын

Artists used what they had. LOL

I used to buy DD Miller/ Janson work monthly, fresh off the spinner rack at the neighborhood ‘Stop N Go’ shop... it was such a great day when the next issue showed up!

Man I really hope you guys can get a shoot with FM. That would be, like, top 5 shoots ever.

@PeterPalmiotti

3 жыл бұрын

A wealth of information from Frank for sure!

@pasjan1183

Жыл бұрын

He is not really that good at talking these days is he?

The 80s was a great time to see creativity in the art form of comics, independents and Marvel/DC was definitely trying some new ideas to get new readers into the fandom.

Yeahhhh! Nothin like the smell of a fresh video in the mornin.

Finally up to date, watched every single video now beginning to end. AMAZING CONTENT - you've changed my comics reason for the better and my understanding exponentially. Thank you so much Ed, Jim and other kayfabers BIG LOVE from the UK

It's really mind-bending to see the originals of all this legendary work! You guys are taunting me into buying yet another glorious artist edition. There ain't enough shelf space in the crib!

@PeterPalmiotti

3 жыл бұрын

'We're going to need a bigger crib!' ...I think that's how that went. haha

Did any of these guys ever use fountain pens to ink with? Probably not with the maintenance required to keep them clean and flowing, but I've always wondered.

@PeterPalmiotti

3 жыл бұрын

Not myself but I've known a few who would use just about everything, including their fingers. LOL

What a load of great work. Very influential work for so many artists. Loved all of Frank's issues into Janson's than JR JR's. Certainly later issues of Daredevil were probably done at a greater speed, I may be thinking of the Al Williamson era.

Man, its not just Steranko, you can see Crepax influence in those faces of Miller, the sketchy and fragmented page designs.

@49:00 it was indeed an Elektra black and white story from a magazine called "Bizarre Adventures".

@thomasmurphy3591

3 жыл бұрын

The Cap Punisher piece is the cover of Captain America 241

The exhaust from that taxi early on may have been done with the old rub-on zip that worked the way press type like letraset did. The dots tended to flake off on to the paper like motes, even where you didn't rub them with your stylus, so you'd get some random debris as well as little gaps in the target area.

I bought a great frank miller page at comic con 1988 for $40 after displaying it on my wall fir 12 years i sold it for $200...it just had black widow but it was amazing 😢

So glad I bought one of these. You guys should flip through one of the Mike Zeck Marvel stories art edition books. That's a sweet one too.

I got into comics during the Miller run on Daredevil. I remember grabbing them at the Optimo off the spinner rack! 007’s “You Only Live Twice” and these books cemented my love for ninjas!

Love it when you guys do analysis of these artist editions! Excited to see more!

@ 41:23, I think it is the same moustached dude from the Jim Lee X-Men story, Natasha's longtime father-figure" whose name is Ivan

I was lucky enough to become comic book buying age in the middle of Frank Miller’s Daredevil run. It was apparent, even to me as a kid, that it was special, so much so, the the name “Frank Miller” was like a brand and this was long, long before the internet, so my opinion wasn’t colored by anyone else’s hype. I bought the Ronin books, because Frank Miller’s name was on it, although I was puzzled that I found them in the “clearance” 50% off section, which I believe they were still more expensive 50% off than normal issues. I guess it was either too weird or just too expensive & that market, for that price point hadn’t become a thing yet? I also remember when the first TMNT comic came out, I thought it was just a parody of Daredevil, which it kinda was, it’s crazy how that became the huge hit.

Looove the artist's/artifact edition videos!! :D :D :D

I love that there are at least two other PA cartoonists to validate my absolutely correct pronunciation of the word "Cosh-toom."

How about them misspelling Elektra's name on the COVER of her debut issue?

I got the Jack Kirby Fantastic Four Artists Edition cause of how many of these you guys have been going through its this one and the Mazzucchelli one that are next on my list.

Oh boy i gotta get my grubby little hands on this

This should be good!

34:24 you should listen Rob Liefeld's recollection in his podcast about reading this comic for the first time (SPOILER: there were tears involved), it's exactly how you guys describe it.

Please make a review of Ross Andru’s Artist Edition or John Romita Sr Artists Edition too!!! 🤘😄🙏

Are yall going to Do the sin city artist edition

Hmm, shouldn't Janson be on the cover too? Dumb question, of course he should. He's so good. I recently read an article from him about Alfonso Font, where he called him his favorite artist. Not something you could guess that easily, but it makes sense that it's someone who is very bold in his ink drawing. He praised Thierry Martin for his recent work too (how could anyone not...) and joked about stealing some tricks from him.

Q: what was that article about markers and pens in comics? Around five minutes in.. Alex Koth? Alec Scoath? Didnt catch that one..

@exiles_dot_tv

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Toth

Also some of this is on DC paper!

Hey, does anyone know if these are scale reproductions? Are there folks that work big like this?

Comics reading!!

OOHHHH YEEEEAAHHHH BOOIIII

When I met Frank Miller in London a couple of years back I had him and Klaus Janson sign a copy of this, and I've never ever seen a fuller example or bigger example of Miller's signature - every single letter is there and he signed across the whole title page. I've looked and can't find another version like it. I went to my LCS to ask the owner what he recommended I should get signed. He directed me to this artefact edition but I couldn't afford it (it took me long enough to save enough for Miller's signing in the first place), so he sold it to me as cost as he thought it would be well worth it. Legend.