I've watched hundreds of rebuild videos and always thought, "all that wood has to be very heavy" I always thought using aluminum beams would work better as well as already having holes in them for wiring. You are the first one who actually did it! Congrats!

@iWatchFromBehind

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Humble Road

Nice B roll with the dogs to break up topics. Very informative!

I learnt one incredible idea from your video, it was the extra space you created on the bed for storage, most beds in this system are fully opened right across the entire space, with your system the mattress is smaller yet big enough or say one adult and two dogs hahahahahahah Thanks This is how i am going to make my bed now , very excited to have found this

Cool! So many van builders use wood, which is really heavy. I’m convinced that aluminum is the best way to go for the framing. Thanks for sharing.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

Where? everybody on KZread is using 8020 so who’s using wood?

Love the framing w extrusion

Appreciate the “wish I had” tip on the Rivnuts!

Thanks for the idea.. Beautiful work

Nicely done!

Cool ! Love my 8020 bed too !

Nice tutorial! Thank you!

George from HUMBLE ROAD is the master for this application. Watch his vids!

Great look so far.

Thanks for sharing... useful. I'm doing the serie.

Not gonna lie, this is pretty good

Cute pups

I can't watch enough ProMaster bed builds. Thankhz so Much for sharing. Wholeness n Essence of Love ((-;

Buen vídeo 👌 gracias.

Great ideas, we say aluminium a lot different in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😂👍🦊

Fantastic job and an unusual design! Its not easy figuring this stuff out. I"m just applying myself to the 80/20 bed problem - I want to modify Seven oh Seven's sliding bed frame to use less 80/20 - mainly use it for the actual slide mechanism. His project materials were $750 - which I think I can improve on - but hope not to the detriment of the project. I did get the rivnut tool which I hope will help. Great to see your video and wish you lots of luck with your build and travels. Yours Jennie

@chipsutcliffe7110

4 жыл бұрын

Be sure to price the 80/20 in bulk, and cut it yourself. You can also use internal connectors that are as strong as those very expensive external connectors. You need to have a drill press, but most home shops should have one. Do some research on aluminum extrusions. There are many different sizes and uses. Very versatile stuff!

Thanks guys for the very helpful video. Can I ask where you sourced those different style corner brackets from for the 8020 aluminum? Those definitely look different than what 8020 Inc sells. Excellent job and thank you again.

Woulfd love to see a video or feed back from you about how this has worked out for you guy's, what you would do diffrently etc. as I will within the next month (God willing) be starting work on my own internals... any pics of the completed work?

Nice work. Where did you get that paneling? You installed support beams after the paneling? Any gassing off from that insulation? Did you also install a vapor barrier? Notice any moisture, dampness or molding inside the van?

Hey there! Liked the video! Wish I had seen this video before framing my van out. Lightweight and easy to work with...Great idea and video! Can't wait to see what's next!

This is really good. So, your bed is length-wise in your van, right? Thank you for sharing!

Awesome job! How much did all the 80/20 cost for your entire build? I’m trying to get an idea of budget

Good job. I don't know the price for 8020 in US, but here in Canada it's insane.

I am so glad I found your channel. My van build is a ways off, but I'm interested in the 80/20, so this is great! Have you considered using recirculating water, at all? Looking forward to your progress! 🎉🙌🏻🎉

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We haven't but that sounds interesting 🤔

@pbhd8

3 жыл бұрын

#onahubleroad

Hi! What sort of aluminium bars are those? What are the dimensions on them? Did you get a long one and cut it to size?

which one is that 90 degrees friction plates? It is not in the description.

Can you share where you purchased the extrusion pieces for the build?

How many of them did you use what length are they

keep in mind the overdesign is for events like accidents where the components inside your van will see high g forces not so much whether a dresser can stay upright. so i would make sure the structures can adequately support high g loads in case of accidents so you dont have potentially dangerous projectiles coming loose. just my 2 cents of course.

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

Will keep that in mind 👌

@chriscoulthard4947

3 жыл бұрын

Secure the cutlery drawer. Van builders use caravan catches. but people aren't traveling in a caravan when it crashes.

Any issues with your spray foam

Love this! When will you post the final reveal?

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We are a ways off from being done actually 😬 maybe by the end of the summer?

@pamjacobs12

4 жыл бұрын

Pair of Drifters Great! My husband & I just started a minimal camper van in a Promaster 2500. Looking forward to seeing yours.

Hi! What size aluminum extrusion are you using? Like which series? 15 20 25?

@malox2765

3 жыл бұрын

Hi yeah I also would like to know what size did you use? Cheers!

@travisgillespie2819

3 жыл бұрын

Hope this helps. Was wondering the same thing, but couldn’t find any information on this channel. I have notes that 15 series works fine. For example, Seven O Savage is using 15 series in this build kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqWd1NGGlNTAYLw.html (2min 20sec); and a second demonstration here kzread.info/dash/bejne/fY52xddwmc3SibA.html (4min to 4min 20sec).

It’s a great design and I’m a total advocate for using lighter, stronger materials. After doing several vans myself, my concern is not in your structure, it’s your insulation. You didn’t break from the metal of your van into your aluminum structure, so any heat or cold from outside is going to conduct through your interior. Having wood braces adhered to the metal of your van, then fastening the aluminum to the wood eliminates the thermal bridge, therefore preserving the r-value of the rest of your build. You’re only as strong as your weakest point. It doesn’t look like you’re able to easily disassemble and make these changes to your design, so I wish you the best, but if you’re having trouble keeping the van hot or cold, this is the reason. Best of luck.

@imagomichelle

3 жыл бұрын

How would you create that thermal break otherwise?

@Battlebuddie

3 жыл бұрын

Michelle Bohls you would fasten wooden 1x3 straps to the metal first with self tapping screws. Then when you fix something to the structure, your screws are going into the wood and not metal so no heat will conduct down through any of the tubing or screw heads.

@imagomichelle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Battlebuddie Do you have a photo or a van build video you can direct me to?

Hey, nice work. How do you deal with the conduction of heat/cold from the van walls to the 80/20? Did you add any kind of thermal break? I want to use 80/20 but I'm concerned about this.

@Wookey.

3 жыл бұрын

That does seem to be the main disavantage of ali framing. Fibreglass makes a good strong thermal break material, or compacfoam for more insulation/less strength. You could just use pultruded fibreglass for the framing, but it's quite bendy so would need bigger sections or more supports. I've not seen anyone try that in a van build so maybe it's a dumb idea :-) I hardly see anyone cover the ribbing with even the slightest thermal break, which must compromise the insulation significantly, although I've not done the actual modelling to check.

@gadois8674

3 жыл бұрын

In my design, which is different but I am using aluminum profile throughout - I am going to cut fibre glass or nylon blank plates between the vehicle and aluminum frame plus nylon washers to deal with heat transfer. For the floor struts I plan to use fibreglass floor box section for same reason. I like the rigidity of using 80/20 because it adds torsional strength to the van body - some of which is lost when, and if, you remove the steel bulkhead. I also like it because it reduces any potential 'squeaking' that might come from wood framing.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@gadois8674 What is the steel bulkhead?

@gadois8674

3 жыл бұрын

@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath in commercial vans it is the steel divider between driver cabin and load area. Attached with bolts to frame, hence removable

I’ve never heard of a friction plate plate. what is that?

I have a question! I would really like to use aluminum framing, but I don't want to see it. Do you think it is possible to get aluminum framing but the wooden feel? (for example can you just put a light wood over it? What do you think?

Where dis you purchase your extruded aluminum?

Where did you source your 90 degree friction bracket?

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We actually got all of that as scrap!

Any concerns with mold behind those walls and the spray-in insulation?

@thestandardbarber1708

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same question.

I was wondering about your insulation. Did you put insulation inside your doors? Did you insulate above your drivers seat in the cubby hole? Also did you put insulation into the frames and on the floor? Over all how does it work out? I am about to insulate my promaster.

@jonathanmiller6081

3 жыл бұрын

One more question, how did the insulation cot down road noise? Wondering if I should put some rubber noise Matt first? Thanks

Great work! I'm having a hard time visualizing how rivnuts would have been easier. Can anyone help explain that, please?

@oldfunsfrontporch5390

3 жыл бұрын

I think they are talking about a rivet (rivit?) nut. Drill a hole, use a rivet gun (tool) and put a threaded rivet that is permanently attached to the van frame

@GaryPattilloLovesYou

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldfunsfrontporch5390 Thank you. Yes, I understood that much but I was just not sure how that would be easier.

I hope you left room to be able to open the back doors with the bed in place because if there’s a fire in the front of the van you don’t want to have to be trying to move the mattress or anything else to get to the doorhandles. It doesn’t look possible open the rear doors to me the way you did it at and a lot of people are making that mistake and somebody’s going to end up dead.

What's a good source for 80/20?

@timdavis7398

3 жыл бұрын

80_20 Inc. 80-20 Inc. Catalog 23 Cover.html

How much did your 80/20 Product cost and where did you order it?

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We actually got it as scrap!

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@pairofdrifters I have bought some really really have to be 8020 Profiles at the scrapyard but they were no longer than 2 feet. Amazing you could locate pieces this long

what size 80/20 did you use? nice work!

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It was the 45x45mm size. I could of probably gone smaller for the cabinet's but I got it all discounted locally!

@flymedicfire1

4 жыл бұрын

How much per foot?

At 2:00 mins into the video, why wouldn’t you just use self drilling bolts to tie the aluminum into the frame of the van instead of putting your wrench in odd places?

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@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

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4 жыл бұрын

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Why spray foam when you're just letting all the heat in and out through all the metal?

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

Your right I should have covered the metal surfaces after with spray foam or some sort of insulator. But we have been through the cold winter and luckily it hasn't made even a noticeable difference. I think if we were running an air conditioner then I would definitely be regretting it now.

@JustAPersonalUseBarb

4 жыл бұрын

@@pairofdrifters I think thermal bridging just might not be much of a problem in vans then. I wanna say you're lucky but you probably already knew it would be fine

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4 жыл бұрын

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Cost??

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We actually got the 80/20 as scrap 👌

@dvgraphics7112

4 жыл бұрын

@@pairofdrifters any guestimation on total cost if someone were to purchase? Im getting conflicting prices

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4 жыл бұрын

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4 жыл бұрын

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@kimberlywray3478

4 жыл бұрын

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Why aluminum?

@pairofdrifters

4 жыл бұрын

We got it as free scrap 👌

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4 жыл бұрын

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Do I hear an Arkansas accent? :)

80/20 aluminum is the way to go for framing in the van. 2x4 wood is too heavy.