💥FPV Dogfight - Too Close for Guns vs Freewing F-22 Raptor 90mm
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Head-tracking FPV close formation & dogfight with a Freewing F-22 Raptor 90mm EDF Jet using Tally-ho Head tracker and Motionsic BAG (BadAss Gimbal pan & tilt) in an E-flite Viper 90mm EDF jet. The chase pilot attempts to maneuver the ViperJet for a guns shot using a functional reflector sight but encounters unexpected difficulties. Head tracking FPV camera enables chase pilot to intuitively follow lead plane through aerobatic maneuvers simply by moving his head without losing sight. It's the most immersive, realistic flying experience possible flying a RC jet!
Link to build head tracker: headtracker.gitbook.io/head-t...
Link to buy the best head tracker: fpvdogfight.com/products/tall...
Link to buy the best FPV pan & tilt gimbal: fpvdogfight.com/
Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Takeoff
0:42 Apache roll
1:18 Close Chase
2:04 Taking 1st shot!
2:56 2nd Shot, trigger down!
3:49 F-22 Raptor landing
4:30 Viper dead-stick landing
F-22/lead pilot: Berkin
Viper/chase Pilot: Motionsic/ Robert
Spotter: Simon
Videographer/Editor: Ethan Liao
Field: Bob Swenson Field/Orange County Modelers Association
#FPVdofight #headtrackingFPV #RCplanedogfight
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I have no idea how this ended up in my feed, but I'll take it. It's amazing to see how far the RC game has come in the last 25 years.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Come on now, if you are a guy and have ever imagined flying in a fighter jet, which I think every guy has one time or another, then this is for you😉
@caulkwater
Жыл бұрын
Foreal I bought a 3D printer and started printing my own fpv drones, cars, planes, robots. It's so fun!
@tac-cobserver3788
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps, you were sometimes looking for RC car, ship or airplane content, then the algorithm choose one of the best for you hehe 😊
@chrisdavisunofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@tac-cobserver3788 I did watch lots of RC helicopter videos when KZread first came out, but I stopped flying those in 2008 or so.
@tac-cobserver3788
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdavisunofficial whoa that's cool bro 🤙
We’re inching closer and closer to mounting pellet guns in these things and I can’t wait! Lol
@SgtJamesRay
Жыл бұрын
They make a air combat sys for planes. It works on IR light. The guys over at FlightTest showed it awhile back.
@GODOFLIQUOR
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that they’re too expensive to replace if the bbs damage it so lasers are the best option for now
@playboycarti624
Жыл бұрын
@@GODOFLIQUOR what about like a paint ball or chalk that would mark it
@ec18c
Жыл бұрын
It has already been done… can’t find where but I’ve seen it!
@ec18c
Жыл бұрын
@@GODOFLIQUOR you have paint bbs. Expensive but you have them!
It’s kinda crazy that the same principles of flight apply to small RC planes, just as much as they do with larger planes!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
That’s the whole appeal to flying RC planes. Less cost and risk but retain most of the fun of flying full scale, if not more so. Since we get to do aerobatics, formation and dogfights, which most GA pilots don’t get to do.
@orderlyhippo1569
Жыл бұрын
The only difference is that all physics are sped up by some factor because of the smaller scale. If you slow down the footage by some amount, then it would appear to fly the same as a large plane.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
@@orderlyhippo1569 Astute observation! We either develop faster reaction times or need to fly bigger planes🙂
@blameusa7082
Жыл бұрын
I find your statement crazy tbh
@MattTee1975
Жыл бұрын
@@blameusa7082 Yeah, what a weird observation.
Man! You guys make me feel old. The last time I flew RC was back in 1993. This is all "Star Trek" to me!! It looks sooooooo damn cool. When did all this remote camera stuff really start. I remember so very very primitive stuff at the end of the 90's, but nothing like this! Thanks for the super content!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Analog FPV remained pretty primitive until 3 years ago. Then Digital FPV brought crystal clear, noise free pictures. Which offers enough clarity to make dog fight and formation flights possible.
@3dmonkeybizz
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic Incredible! 💥
@shable1436
Жыл бұрын
Watch FPV drone footage and races then, it will really blow your mind
@Igeltod
Жыл бұрын
little History Lesson from me: First-Person-Vision (FPV) -Flight was done in the 90 too but miniature Cameras and Videotransmitters were hella expensive back then, ranging in about 2k$ for a Set. with the advent of cheap and tiny wireless Video surveillance Cameras, Keychain-cameras etc in the mid 2000 people started to hack these devices and put them on RC Planes. It was an incredible fun time until somewhere 2012 when all these Drones ruined it. But 2011 was when it all Peaked with Trappy recording and uploading his incredible Stunts and long distance or high altitude Records done by others.
@marielizysurourcq
Жыл бұрын
FPV boomed with small drones around 2011, because frames were in carbon and so strong (still have mine of 2013 bought from a Canadian guy on RCgroups). You just had to buy lots of props since they were brittle as hell lol. Chinese competion for the real hype did the rest of lowering mass and volume of components.
That dead stick landing was chefs kiss 🤌🏽
Honestly, this is revolutionary. Easily the biggest jump in RC tech since proportional control hit the big time in the '70s. Cannot wait to set this up in my planes.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your F-14 setup! Still my most favorite jet of all time - F-5E follows closely behind. Both with classy, timeless lines!
Beautiful landing. Amazing. More please! Notes: Wake turbulence is stronger from low-aspect ratio wing aircraft, such as that Raptor. The short wingspan allows more air to join the tip vortices at high AOA. Wake turbulence is strongest at low speed, when induced drag is highest. Go faster (if safe) for less effect. Weight affects it too, although I assume he isn't carrying excess weight for no reason.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Great insight on wake turbulence and tip vortices on interplay between aspect ratio, speed, AOA, and induced drag. So basically this flight was conducted with almost the worst conditions. I will have try this again with higher speeds for comparison. I suppose with high aspect wings, low wing loading on bipes, and most likely engine going wide open, WW 1 planes in dogfight Would be at the opposite end of the spectrum for effect of wake turbulence. So the adage should hold true! Thank you for the great lesson! I really appreciate it🙏😁. Now I need to try and find a WWI model.
@Darrylx444
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic WW1 would also be very cool to see, especially at larger scale. But pick a calm, zero-wind day if possible.
Crazy how technology has advanced. This definitely has a military application for combat drones.
I've always thought hobby RC was pretty lame, but this actually looks like something I could get into. A HEAD TRACKING GIMBAL!!?? Looks dope AF.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Easy to implement to. Makes each RC plane dual use; can be flown conventionally or from the cockpit like flying a real plane!
@DannyPachangaoficial
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic plz make a video explaining how and how to start fast :P
@simba00784
Жыл бұрын
I don’t get why people thjnk it’s lame. You literally get as close as possible to flying Jets and space crafts. In fact you can’t do this stuff in real Jets
@Can-rv6qp
Жыл бұрын
@@simba00784 How is the latency with those head tracked cameras?
@spinningsquare1325
6 ай бұрын
@@simba00784this isn't as good as sim for some people
Omg! I DREAMED of this view when flying RC planes as a kid and now here it is at last! I am in awe!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Great time to get back in the hobby😉
It’s insane how far RC planes have come , it looks so awesome
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
I think RC cars are a blast, but this is another level in the hobby. Too cool.
So glad youre uploading more content. Especially when you offer information on the 90mm Freewing thoughts .. great video
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement! I will try to do new things and offer useful findings to make new videos worthwhile for your attention. That’s my aim. Cheers!
Looks fun i was confused in the beginning thought this was a vr game 🤣
At first I thought, "Wow this VR game has great graphics! Oh it's real life RC, EVEN BETTTER!!"
It's nice to see how far we've come in the RC world. At first we were flying paper planes but now we build RC planes so big that we can actually fit in and fly it directly. What a time to be alive if you're an RC enthusiast
I can't find enough superlatives for this! What a phenomenal video of a fantastic (duo) flight.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Will share some more videos for your enjoyment.
Beyond cool! Perfect flying and lighting conditions.
Now make missiles.
that plane flys incredibly smooth, the weight must help keep it stable from light breezes or cross wind. Epic video bro!!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Viper 90 is indeed a versatile and stable airframe that does well even in wind. This video was taken when wind was nearly calm so it was very smooth.
it must be really cool to fly an rc jet with head tracking
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
It is indeed, almost like being in the cockpit!
Beautiful.
This was super cool. Thanks - can’t wait to see the BB dogfight!
I always enjoy seeing the views from above ❤
I never would've imagined seeing a video like this, so unique and fun! Now I feel like making a plane and flying it lol
@jeffr3773
Жыл бұрын
so he's on the ground dlying it remote controlled? How is the camera moving around like he's in the vehicle?
@studentpilotlookinahh
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffr3773 He has a FPV camera in the cockpit. idk what the camera is called exactly but he is wearing a headset that allows him to see through the camera in the airplane. And yes it is a remote controlled airplane which makes it so unique and fun!
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude I needed this in my life . One thing i wish i would have done in my life i still havent and probably wont is Actually learning to fly for real. Love my motorcycles and flying
Hell yes!!! This is so badass!!!!!
such a beautiful sunset 😍
Very Nice Rob! Very cool. And a great landing! 👍😊
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken! Gotta watch out for “jet wash” when doing close formation😉
@kath011
Жыл бұрын
😂
I grew up around this as my uncle was a big deal in rc planes selling them and decals for competition all over the world. I always had a issue seeing the direction I was flying so I was afraid to crash planes. Todays cameras are amazing and would of made my life easier. its not cheap to crash a $10k+ plane especially if youre the one building it. Great Video!!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
The appeal nowadays is one can fly a high performance plane like this for far cheaper and literally no build time🙂
That was Awesome !!!
When I was teen I had bought a mini camera with wireless, it was designed to plug into a coax line on a tv, my plan was to install it into a ducted fan A-10 I purchased. Plan never came to fruition I’m afraid, but I always dreamed of low level flight over the park and adjacent creek. Or envisioned a way to use drones to train pilots more cost effectively. Looks great having that vision actually in sight on KZread today.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Yay! Glad to meet someone that had the same idea as I did. And thousands of people are now flying this way with their RC planes. It's very popular among full scale pilots since it's cost effective and low risk to fly aerobatics, formation and even dogfight that they don't normally get a chance to practice.
That was awesome! Great camera work keeping the bandit in sight, even on the landing. Speaking of landing, that was a perfect touchdown from a freestyle glide. Love the channel! 🤙
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the encouragement!
Fascinating. A whole new experience for RC.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, the new perspective makes RC plane/vehicles dual use, both FPV and LOS. Makes formation flying and dogfights realistic. And opens up a whole new world of training material from full scale flying applicable!
I’m so inspired. Thank you!
That was amazing!!!
Cant wait to get into this fpv stuff myself
That must be an awesome experience, be in the jet but not for real, the tiny camera VR head tracking is awesome. Awesome video 👏
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The fun & thrill of flying a real aircraft but at a fraction of the cost and risk of flying inside a full scale plane.
Fun, we need more of this.
this is amazing
not far till rc sun orbital stikes become a thing
incredible fly and skills, and incredible landscape, with a gorgeous fly view from sky..thanks from France
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks your for watching and the kind compliment. Cheers!
Lol I searched RC dogfight 😂😂 subscribed this is so awesome
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub, cheers!
THIS IS THE COOLEST VIDEO THE TUBE HAS RECOMMENDED , AMAZING
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, cheers!
the cockpit camera movment looks so fluid...!?wow....
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
I use premium servos in my gimbal design and also excellent head-tracker: Motionsic BAG - BadAss Gimbal fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal Tally-ho Head-tracker fpvdogfight.com/products/tally-ho-head-tracker
Dude that is so freaking cool
Just seeing this now after it popped up in my feed ,and am glad it did just followed immediately,so much awesome content 😌
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest and sub, cheers!
And yet people say the dogfighting days are over❤
@motionsic
6 ай бұрын
That might be true for war, but dogfighting for fun is just getting started😉
@amyross2364
6 ай бұрын
@@motionsic yessir!
Dude this was sick! We need some more footage of y'all just ripping it around the mountains.
Adding mini rockets and bombs and gun for dogfight will increase the fun and enjoyment.. I hope to see such as that aircraft
I don't think my child brain would have been able to process how fun this looks. My adult brain is still struggling!!!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Then we have done something right. It’s for the child or teenager that grew up with original Top Gun as their favorite movie🙂
Hamesha khush raho my friend 👌.,
this is so awesome
Radio Controlled aircraft on a next level mission. Amazing. Hope to see these on actual turbine kit mode. Keep on flying guys.
awesome video!
@motionsic
9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Nice landing
That’s was cool ! Great landing 🛬
I’ve always wanted to have RC dogfights with working missiles and stuff, it would be such an interesting hobby
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you make it happen🙂
Possibly THE most bodacious thing I’ve seen in a LONG while! 😃🤗🤘👍😎
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement. It’s not dangerous if following formation rules. Just a bunch of fun without risk to life and limb!
@bugsy742
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic 😆👍🤘 brilliant 🤝
awesome video. love the FPV
Good lord that was beautiful!! Now I'm jealous
The entire way through I was asking myself "are these real planes or drones" great drones man they are some damn cool.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I do try to fly as realistically as possible.
This was a fun video to watch. Thank you.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic as always
Thanks for the ride along. New Sub 🤙🏻
Man your vids get better and better. Beautiful footage, and a great dead stick... I will have to try this FPV thing one day. :)
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement! I took a full scale glider flight this past summer. It’s amazing how similar my FPV flying, especially dead-stick landing, is to that flight. I think I will show that footage next😉
@avipatable
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic That is really cool to hear how similar it feels. I remember how realistic your FPV flight of the Avios Spitfire looked - flying realistic turns when seeing from the cockpit. I will get into this for sure one day, but small children and many hours at work mean I'll have to stick my small models for now... But seeing yours and others videos keep me motivated!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
@@avipatable hear, hear! I took a 18 year break from flying RC for the same reasons. Your time will come. Respect for getting your priorities straight!
@avipatable
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic Thank you, yes you know the story! :) Channels like yours and RCScaleairplanes, and the RC Scalebuilders website keep me going for now... a 1/4 scale Jerry Bates Hawker Tempest is the dream one day!
Great flying and landing
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed them!
Lol and I was like " Is this a game or not? CAN'T TELL! "
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Of course it’s a game, an analog one!
Sweet landing brother!!!👍👍👍 very interesting video
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!
This is so cool! Love that gunsight 👍
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Me too!
my left ear really enjoyed your commentary
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Lol, Will try stereo next time.
awesome in every way🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, cheers!
Very nice video , nice fly and smooth landing !
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Love making smooth landings, it’s half the fun of flying😁
@NicOz42
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic same, great landing
Didn't read the title or description before starting to watch. I spent way too long trying to figure out if this was a simulator, it looked so real! Then I noticed the scale of nearby objects...
that afterburner looks amazing. id love to get into this one day
First time seeing anything like this. Pretty cool
@motionsic
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Este simulador me fez sonhar num voo mental entre as nuvens com brisa. Grato pelo vídeo.
@hopetagulos
Жыл бұрын
@jessemathis9212 simulating: airmodel with camera. I meant in my language
Great flying!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great great great! The daylight was also fantastic! Many happy landings! Subscribed 😉
@motionsic
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sub, cheers!
the only rc channel that i follow is flite test but this is the coolest thing i ever seen. instant subscribe
Great landing, the pan and especially the tilt really made the difference to the flare the plane in FPV. By chance do you have a video of you working on the cockpit/canopy? I asked another KZreadr who does similar work and still waiting for a posting. Hope you will share the info. Keep flying!!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
The canopy on the Viper which I flew was removed for image clarity. Stock canopy is not clear enough and has plenty of distortion. The pan and tilt gimbal is something I developed for ease of installation. A few screws to affix camera and secure to the cockpit floor that’s it! Takes about 20 minutes. You can see some detailed pictures here: fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal
@tsunami6253
Жыл бұрын
@@motionsic Great!! Thanks for the info and link. 👍
If this is homemade, Imagine what the governments must have in secret.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Yep! Agree with your assessment. They lead this by a couple of decades.
@bando1054
8 ай бұрын
Probably Alien SpaceShip RC’s
Too cool! Awesome landing. Super jealous
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Don’t get jealous , get even🙂
This is so cool and great camera work!
Man I wish I could have a setup like this! Very cool, you should make a tutorial or sell a kit for people to build our own fpv jet!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
I do sell a kit that allow experienced RC flyers to build their own FPV jet. It’s pretty easy actually. Look in the descriptions. Here are the FPV equipment I use: DJI Digital FPV Goggles: www.getfpv.com/dji-fpv-goggles-v2.html DJI Digital FPV Air unit fpvdogfight.com/products/dji-digital-fpv-air-unit-by-caddxfpv Motionsic BAG - BadAss Gimbal fpvdogfight.com/products/motionsic-b-a-g-badass-gimbal Tally-ho Head-tracker fpvdogfight.com/products/tally-ho-head-tracker
This seems like a lot of fun.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is fun flying with friends in collaborative play!
Top gun theme starts playing even though its an f22 instead of an f18
Fantastic video! Subscribed!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Wow I have never seen something like this! That looks so sick!
Just admit it, this isn’t an RC. you actually put a tiny hamster pilot in there.
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Dang it, you figured it out. It was a deft hamster all along...
The weight of RC plays crucial role in the reality of the dogfight, it must be calculated as the real jetfighter weight ratio according to it's dimension and size . most RC weight less than the real ones according to size and dimension for that reason they becomes more liter and more aerodynamic than the real jetfighters so this is make it very difficult in RC to hit the target in dogfight .
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Very astute observation! Things happen much faster at RC scale so require much faster reaction time than flying full scale airplanes and indeed more difficult, counter intuitively.
🎵 Hyyyywaaay too the danja zone! 🎵 I know it would be really hard to pull off and probably really dangerous, but imagine scale missiles and guns for these bad boys! Hell even just like a laser tag system would be dope!
BRO....thought i was watching ARMA ...for.like 3.sec,im so happy to have lived this long,to see nerds and enthusist out like this..GREAT JOB GUYS,love you all!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
This is probably the most fun activity nerds love that appeals to everyone else, too😉
This is absolutely phenomenal!!
The HUD is beyond belief. How did you do that?
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s a functional simplified miniature reflector sight scaled down from WW II originals with similar optics. See fig. 1: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflector_sight
some of this "wake turbulences" were partially made from the wash jet but most of those were made from the wing tip vortices most likely
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
I agree!
Cool to see the parallax in the sight!!
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
Huh? The point of using the Reflector sight is to correct for parallax - the reticle stays on target despite view angle change (from head movement). It’s parallax free🙂
I love that, had the same idea and you find the perfect way✨👍🏻✨👍🏻
The actually physical HUD is 1000x cooler than any graphic you could overlay on the FPV image
@motionsic
Жыл бұрын
I agree🙂
It would be cool if there's an augmented reality game for this, where your targets are virtual.