I actually prefer the LX’s appearance over the GT’s. It just seems cleaner to me.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

I gotta agree, between the two I am an LX guy

@cericj99

6 жыл бұрын

same here, but my 93' GT was to good of a deal to pass up

@swingkidca

6 жыл бұрын

Totally disagree..for me GT man all they way. The LX's always looked like they were naked

@itmbaker

6 жыл бұрын

swingkidca I will admit I really do like the fox Mustang GT’s looks as well, especially the ground effects. They look the best with two-tone paint schemes in my opinion.

@joshhoneycutt1792

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, lx back end is cleaner. Its my fave fox. Im a new edge guy. Mine has a yote. But my buddy has a lx trunk style. We built a 306 that ran high 12. I love the trunk style man . 225hp bro, that will get your feelings hurt by a honda

SSP's also had an oil cooler( you had to use a FL300 oil filter cause of clearence issues), a better alternator and reinforced floor pans. The later years used the 160 certified speedo. I had one of these for 10 years and regret everyday I sold it.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

elmostong1 Yes sir!

@theyseemetrollintheyhatin.1027

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, And it was still close to the frame-rail! The oil-coolers were sourced from Hayes, if memory serves.

@rreno496

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting bit of trivia here.......I bought a Brand New 91 GT upon my return to Germany from Desert Storm through the AAFES New Car Sales program. It was built and shipped in to Rotterdam in the Netherlands and I picked it up from the port about 2 months after ordering it. That car came with the upgraded hoses (blue) and an engine oil cooler on it as well. No idea if it was a full SSP package car or not, but it did have those features. Would love to get it back if I could find it. VIN 1FACP42E7MF160944 (had to print it on so many shipping documents when I PCS'd back to CONUS that it stuck in my head). Last reported in VA in 2016.

@bigdaddy7119

6 жыл бұрын

They also had beefed up rear control arms, a coolant restrictor in place of a thermostat, a different dome light, 2 piece speedo cable, trunk release button relocated from the glovebox to the knee panel on the driver’s side, and a single key system (same key for ignition, doors, and trunk) aside from the aforementioned options. I also believe that they came with a heavy duty fan clutch and a high flow water pump. As for the speedo, I have seen “certified calibration” speedos in both 140 and 160 variants on all years between ‘87 and ‘93. If any of you ever come by Talladega Super Speedway here in Alabama, they have the Motorsports Hall Of Fame Museum there by the track that has an awesome collection of cars, trucks and motorcycles. I say this because they have on display one of the TWO surviving (in original livery that is) Alabama State Trooper Mustangs there along with one of two surviving ‘71 Javelin State Trooper cars. The other two are at the DPS HQ in Montgomery Alabama.

@rreno496

6 жыл бұрын

Tell me that my GT wasn't a full package then, speedo didn't show "calibration" on it anywhere and it had a thermostat in it.

He's recording from a church parking lot, he must be telling the truth.

@Cambpro

5 жыл бұрын

you're light-weight talking shit on religion, you must be a liberal.

@oceanhome2023

5 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say OMG he is in a graveyard !

@bigdaddyc1997

5 жыл бұрын

I know right

@bigbird7838

5 жыл бұрын

He said shit in the church parking lot !!!

@ethanlancaster76

5 жыл бұрын

CamSayCam you’re a weak minded, uptight person lacking a sense of humor casting stones from your glass house, and a pathetic example of a Christian at that. I think you should read your good book and figure out what else you missed aside from the part about not passing judgment and attacking your brothers and sisters in the name of your God taking his name in vain to glorify yourself. I honestly don’t think a God that created the entire universe in days and is all powerful and all knowing really needs you to do his bidding anymore so than you being his KZread comment section protector and mouthpiece. People like you give Christians a bad name and don’t even live in accordance to the scriptures that you defend. The fact that you are playing Apostle is the biggest sin of them all in the Bible you’re thumping. Jesus laid with leper’s and thieves and cast judgement on no one as his own life was to spread the word of salvation through love, kindness, forgiveness and sacrifice. Not hate, fear and damnation. Abraham was the father of the three biggest religions and I bet you hate two of them by your comment of damnation and judgement and don’t understand the one you claim as your own. If hell is real you’re destined to be shoveling coal and stoking the fire. I guess you don’t remember that you are told to turn the other cheek and judge not your fellow man as a true Christian.

Its funny how at the time these were new All I wanted was a GT. I LOVED them. I could not make myself like the Notchback. Now thats all I want. A good clean Notchback

My buddy's neighbors cousins had a GT Cobra. It was rare. We went to dairy queen and saw some girls. My buddy honk at them

@HeadrushStudio21228

4 жыл бұрын

Anyone else tired of the word “buddy” lol. Like I have never said that word. I say “my friend”

@paulbricklayer4491

3 жыл бұрын

In Canada they came gt cobra

@jamesmcelhenie5265

3 жыл бұрын

Did it have a 3/4 racing cam in it ?

tired of my slow lx. shoulda bought a gt instead. oh well i guess ill have to swap in a police interceptor motor. haha jk

@garrettthomas6780

4 жыл бұрын

Mine used to be a 2.3l 4banger I pulled my 351 Windsor out of my 79 f100 and put it in now it's just a beast

I used to drive a 1993 Ford Escort 2-door hatch, loved that thing! Once I got a chance to drive a 1993 Mustang GT and was actually shocked at how similar the interior was laid out and how the driving felt. It literally felt like I was driving my own car but with much more power and a little more solid.

I'm glad to see there's still people out there that really know that are foxbodys!! I happen to have an 85 LTD with a 92 drivetrain out of an LX 5.0, and it is extremely fun as a sleeper!! Cam headers Flowmasters and pulley kit, and I'm surprising the shit out of a lot of cars at stop lights!! Keep up the good work man!!

My pet peeve, is when a direct drive fan is still called a fan clutch

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Someone added a flex fan to this car at some point, its not stock

@ztwntyn8

5 жыл бұрын

NYPATRIOT so when you say fan clutch you are only talking about the clutch right? Which the fan is attached to. So, you have a fan clutch and a fan and as an assembly it would be a clutch fan. Since it is a clutch type fan assembly. lol that’s what gets me.

@sparkimoto

5 жыл бұрын

..."They did away with the fan clutch, but they've got a better fan clutch on here"...The way I would interpret this: The stock fan CLUTCH was removed and replaced with a more efficient one. That would mean only the clutch was changed [ referring to the meaning of the statement ]

@randyrichardson4364

5 жыл бұрын

@@sparkimoto does foxcast know what a fan clutch is?? points to solid spacer, calls it a clutch...

@b.p.stimemachines2327

5 жыл бұрын

it's just me not everybody but if you knock that fan and or a fan clutch off of the front of that motor you get 10 to 12 usable horsepower by running electric fans

My father used to own a 1988 Lincoln LSC and we used to drag the car on weekends at Cayuga drag strip. Aww those were the days! LOL! Great vid by the way! 🇨🇦👌

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

I would kill to find a low mile Mark VII

@jaywhy225

6 жыл бұрын

Chidrole Dude there is No Way we weren’t there on the same weekends from time to time. Do you remember the “Toich Boys” or “Toich Bros” ?? All Ford. Most notable was the Red Maverick. And a bunch of 5.0 Foxes usually rolled around us too

@chidrole

6 жыл бұрын

Jay Why it was a long time ago but come to think about it I do remember a red maverick. Do you remember the di Silva’s they were 2 brothers one had a thunderbird and the other had a mustang now they have a mustang shop called di Silva’s racing you can buy all kinds of stuff for mustangs even online.

@jaywhy225

6 жыл бұрын

Chidrole Oh yea ! Joe and Paul. Good guys ! They were J&P in the 80’s. We ran against them a lot. Peter Toich was the red maverick. That man could shift gears like no other

@CJColvin

6 жыл бұрын

Foxcast Media You should do a Coyote swap Mark VII.

I have a 1986 mustang GT, T-tops, loaded. Only 59,000 kms. Bought it new. Nice summer cruiser. Brand new condition. Great video. 👍

I bought my 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 convertible in July 1990, I still have it, mainly a weekend car, has 110,000 miles now. I really enjoy you bringing up things I just wondered about, Thank you.

The 1978-83 Ford Fairmont was a nice fox body too!

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

wilfig Yes sir and I want one

@Yo-mamashouse

6 жыл бұрын

I have one for you to buy...cheap...

@hustonhall2271

6 жыл бұрын

mr rowboato how much you got a post on fb or something?

@jefffrancisco952

5 жыл бұрын

1976 Ford Granada was the start; I swapped the powertrain into a 1979 Fairmont.Ford loved to save money...

@nanothestrange

5 жыл бұрын

especially the futura package

The Canadian cobra story... ha Had a 90 conv gt “cobra” sticker car. People used to overplay it for me!! And lx’s were usually lighter and faster! Nice rant!

@LoopKoop6778

5 жыл бұрын

yup.. thats what i was saying the LX was faster i love my GT and the LX i've owned but i still love the styling of the GT

I bought an 88 GT 5 speed convertible in May 1988 and I appreciate you clearing the air.

I really like that you explain in detail on foxbody myths to a lot of knuckleheads myself included. I have owned over 10 mustangs, not at the same time. From a 79 four banger to a 2014 V6. I'm still looking for those other 2 cylinders for my V6. LOL Great video 👍

I’d Rather get an LX than a GT

We used to call those rims 10 holes if you polish those rims they come out beautiful thanks for the info God bless

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

1962 Santiago Yes sir, ten holes or phone dials

@fanghicheck

6 жыл бұрын

its no jive , got them on my 85

@albundy7239

6 жыл бұрын

We called them D slots

@royrichardson8005

6 жыл бұрын

1962 Santiago yep, 10 holes! And i had a polished set on a 85 LX 5.0 Coupe

@Santiago-iv7oi

6 жыл бұрын

roy richardson I sure miss those days..

Learned a lot right there! You make me miss my 89 LX convertible, 88 LX sunroof and 86 GT. Oh the memories. Subscribed!

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Cotellessa Welcome aboard brutha!

@ADDwithJTC

6 жыл бұрын

Foxcast Media thank you! Great content!

Love this video. I have 3 mustangs. A 97 gt, a 98 gt and a 04 v6 base model. Love all of them equally. Can't learn enough about mustangs and the history behind them.

Great video! I still want a Fox body. I know my things about the 79 to 04 Fox chassis. The Fox platform was introduced in 1978 on the Fairmont. Ford definitely made a number of them in it's 26 year run. I still love them for it's simple engineering. Who can't say that they are simple to work on. I'm so going to found one in 2020. If you got any connections to anyone that is willing to sale a good Fox. Preferring a GT 87 to 93. I'm willing to pay $4500 for the car. Great video. Looking forward to the next one.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Gay Mike you are right the first fox was the ‘78 Fairmont! I appreciate you supporting the channel, and I will keep my eyes out for a clean GT

@jessjoshwyatt3571

Жыл бұрын

I know this is old, but they have quite a few for sale on the Facebook marketplace.

@kodahshakurks4742

Жыл бұрын

How about a red hatchback 91, very clean no rust no flaws all original low miles? Throw me a number

300 foot pounds of torque not 300 hp. Good info. I have heard the LX is lighter than a GT.

@trentonharris5521

5 жыл бұрын

I had heard the same thing. I figured maybe they were talking about the no option cars. I haven't seen any GT's without power options, we'll, not that I've noticed.

@thomascullenjr544

5 жыл бұрын

No ground effects and the notchback has no spoiler so they are definitely lighter if you have one without a lot of power accessories.

@mihaeltomasovic

5 жыл бұрын

It was allegedly a lighter car and the Notchback, as mentioned by @Thomas Cullen Jr., was the lightest of the LX's. With that being said, if you had a convertible LX it would be heavier than the GT even with power options. The convertible GTs were obviously heavier but the ground effects and some of the power options are very nice on the GTs and some folks love them... I am a freaky big fan of the early 80s and particularly '84 and '85 Mustangs just because I adore the four eyed look... Anyhow... If I were to go later I love certain things that others hate - like the "cheese grater" tail lights.

@ChipsMcC

4 жыл бұрын

The notchbacks are much lighter. Have an 88 and with a minimal weight drop (sound deadening out, spare out, stuff like that) it weighs in on the local scales at 2750 without me in it. It is a no option car though.

@ChipsMcC

4 жыл бұрын

Oh you meant LX trim, not the notchbacks. My bad.

I just found this after finding a sticker on the back of an Escape at pull a part. I'm now subscribed. Thanks. 😀

Always loved the LX's - I had 2 89s, both 5.0/5 spd hatches. The last one I had (fully loaded and bone stock) weighed 3,170. I never dyno'd it stock, but with pullies, shorty headers, off-road H and a timing bump made 219hp/274tq on a dynojet. Added big and little Welds with the old bias ply ET Streets and 4.10s and it went 13.3@101

My pet peeve is when the blue “high miler” as in (mileage) hoses are pronounced as “high Miller”. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@miketheplumber448

4 жыл бұрын

It's not blue for high mileage, its blue for high mil or hose wall thickness

Rolling in my 5.0 rag top down so my hair can flow.

@jondeas824

5 жыл бұрын

With the hunnies on the stanby waiting just to say hi! Hahahah

@RCRWJR

5 жыл бұрын

DID YOU STOP! ???

I remember seeing a 1983 5.0 LX, brand new, sitting at the Ford dealer in 1983. It was my first time seeing one. Sitting right next to a GT irronically. I had a 1985 GT purchased used in 85 with 8300 +/- miles. I also purchased a 88 LX 5.0 convertible new in early 89. Great cars!

I love the "yellowing" on the bumper. My 84 T-bird did was the same way. Oh how I miss that car

I want an LTD it’d be so cool, I enjoyed watching this video whilst in my fox body lol

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

The Boy Hahaha thanks bud!

I had an 86 lx notch 5.0. Miss that car dearly.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Time for another brutha!

@sambatson3835

4 жыл бұрын

I have one I'm working on

Thanks for the post very informative and your build looks like it coming along great.

Thank you Thank you for clearing up the mess. People have a hard time understanding platform (chassis) sharing.

My 93 coupe with power everything weigh in at 2860 on draglites everything else stock

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah thats a friggin street fighter right there!

do a cam install while the motors in the bay on a fox

Thank you. I own a 88 notch and an 83 Ltd wagon and a lot of people don't understand they are both foxes. Also the police interceptor motor is so true. Drives me crazy!

This brings back great memories. In H.S. I picked up my 1990 reg GT back new back in the day and my brother picked up a white '90 LX 5.0 at the same time. Had loads of fun with them on the street and then at the track. I could beat 2nd and 3rd gen F bodys, but C4 Vettes and Grand Nationals would inch me out. I used to hit terminal velocity on I95 going home late at night and it would shake itself apart and then boil the brake fluid and warp the rotors when I had to stop in a hurry. Mine was a factory freak and was faster than the other ones. It was awesome because they were dirt cheap working part time as a bussboy I could easily afford it. Raw lightweight car for sure.

my pet peeve "its super rare" in for sale ads..... Really means I want stupid money for my clapped out fox body needing tons of work.. Its rare because options where dirt cheap and more people wanted options.. About the ssp coolant hoses "hi miller"? you mean Hi-miler? (like mileage) hoses..... That was the name of the cheaper goodyear EPDM rubber blue one's now sold by Continental . Fords where a silicone blend. Nothing "miller" about them just silicone/ polyester . you can't find them any more because china flooded the market with cheap and poorly made silicone kits that won't last anywhere near as long as the motorcrafts did. Gates and Eaton still offer that type of hose for HD equipment but not much automotive anymore.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

No Thanks Hahahah, yeah they are always “super rare”

@TrojanHorse1959

6 жыл бұрын

You can still get Ford SVE silicone hoses. lmr.com/products/79-93-Mustang-Radiator-Hoses-Heater-Hoses

@nothanks5652

6 жыл бұрын

sve is cheap china silicone with there logo on it ,.... if you want them for the look ok, but performance wise a gates rubber hose will out last them and won't have the permeation the cheap silicon hoses do.

@TrojanHorse1959

5 жыл бұрын

No Thanks, Ok thank you for the heads up. I thought they were the real deal and they look to be very thick and substantial, that's what made me think they might be good ones. I have a set of the originals on my 86 GT and they are a much lighter blue than those, that did give me pause when I looked at those SVE hoses.

@nanothestrange

5 жыл бұрын

whats rare is a fox body thats low mileage, all original and still runs. there were rare models though like limited production painbt combos, anniversary models and mid transition models like 78 1/2, 84 1/2 and 92 1/2 mustangs

Do a FOXBODY DRIFT build!

@gaugegator1365

5 жыл бұрын

HOONIGAN not fox bodies but cool asf

great vid. I have had the argument with so many people about the mustang cobra & they are convinced there cars are Cobra's but can't tell you how they are any different than a regular GT. I didn't know it was to hold onto the name so thanks.

Coming from a Chevy Guy, this was an interesting and very informed video! Great job!

what about a 3/4 race cam ?

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah

@call_me_danger

6 жыл бұрын

I was told many years ago that the 3/4 race cam term was started by the max wedge mopar guys that had a cam with .75" of lift. But through the years as younger guys got into the car scene, they heard "3/4 race cam" and misunderstood it as 3/4 race cam vs full race cam and not a value of valve lift. This may not be true but it sounds plausible to me.

@backyardbuilttrucks1

5 жыл бұрын

That is a old timers term .

Good video

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud

Well said, I've grown up building these cars and you are on point !

Great video, thanks for clearing that up! I got me one of those ultra-rare LX GT Cobra Foxbodies with the 300 HP Police Interceptor engine...LOL! It has been a lot of years since any Ford cars with "real" Police Interceptor engines have come out of the factories with more HP than any other Ford with the same engine.

Seriously. Those 5.0 High output motors are good to put turbos and superchargers on. #Roadkill

Lol so true !! If I remember correctly, here north of the border the “Cobra” cars were ‘86-88. And it Was just a sticker. The 300 # was the torque rating. but there were always those losers that thought they had something special.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

100% correct brutha!

@jaywhy225

6 жыл бұрын

Foxcast Media my 5.0L Yoda confirmed it was only the non mass-air injected cars that were labeled “Cobra”.

@83gt17

6 жыл бұрын

Jay Why I believe all Canadian GTs 1979 to 82 or so were called cobras, instead of GTs.

@jaywhy225

6 жыл бұрын

83 GT yea I remember those. And the Capri Black Magic. Lol. My 1st car but an 85 RS Bubblehatch.

@swingkidca

6 жыл бұрын

When I bought my cobra gt at 17...I was only looking for a cobra because I thought it was special. Man was I disappointed when I found out it was just a marketing thing. Lol. Young me makes me laugh...what a numpty

Thank you so much buddy I’m loving the tips! My aunt just gave me her 87’ gt vert, dove grey fox body and I’m going to start my first ever project car. I’m starting with suspension and rigidity what do you recommend I do first, I noticed the the verts have more parts for rigidity so I honestly don’t know where I I start..

Great video and info. I love my 83 GLX 5.0. The original owner optioned it w/o power windows. mirrors or AC. It's got chrome trim on the mirrors, door frames and great sky blue velour seats. Someday soon I will have to paint the original midnight blue metallic paint and will have to decide to have them recreate the pinstripes on the body and body trim. I am never going to sell this car!

The lx actually had a higher top speed then the gt, I believe when car and driver drove them because the gt had more drag

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

It was marginal, but yes, depending on what magazine you read back in the day

@MegaSheila12

6 жыл бұрын

GT's came with 2.73's also

@itmbaker

6 жыл бұрын

David cb347 The 2.73 on the LX applies to just the 5.0 (manual + auto). The LX 2.3 featured a 3.27 for the manual and a 3.73 for the auto A4LD. (Naturally, I’m sure few care about the 2.3 but it is relevant to 4-banger owners like myself!)

@justa4banger149

6 жыл бұрын

Gear ratio. They are different. 100 % I have had way too many to be proud of and there aint no way this jackass is gonna blow his bullshit around. What a dummy.

@balitrix

6 жыл бұрын

justa4 banger say that in English please

I remember when "Police Interceptor" meant something!!!

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Mark 0125 Yup, I did years ago

@1stormseekr336

6 жыл бұрын

lol my ford galaxie was a "P"

@richsackett3423

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that manufacturers could really jack up the sticker price. Municipalities pay good money for a "police car."

@call_me_danger

6 жыл бұрын

ffhgu 07 can you explain these mechanical differences? And a quick factoid for the "it has an interceptor motor in it" guys, police cars are built to the same specs as taxi cabs. They are "fleet" vehicles, one thing in the police/taxi cars that was different than non fleet cars was the number of welds per inch on all body/frame mating points, fleet cars had more spot welds closer together to add strength and reduce flex. Other than that and the hd cooling systems the fleet cars are no better than normal production cars.

@ZombieWilfred

5 жыл бұрын

@@call_me_danger I was under the impression that taxi cabs are often purchased and repainted police cars, not that taxis and police cars are built to the same spec at the factory?

Another question...is there anything i can do to clean the sunroof drain holes ? Im not sure if all the mustangs have it or just the older stuff like mine..1985...now people that dont know will look

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Gadsby Blow compressed air through the hole, that should clear it out

Love the notchback. My 89 LX 5.0 coupe I bought new in 89 (not a police package) with power windows, locks and air conditioning weighs in at 2961 stock so the ssp is more likely less than that. GTs with all the fancy bits were as much as 400 lbs heavier actually making them slower than an LX. Especially a notchback. By the way I still have the 89 after almost 30 years.

I have a canadian gt cobra

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Theres a ton of them out there!

@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672

4 жыл бұрын

@@FoxcastMedia not as many as you think they are rotting out pretty fast

Man I want that ssp mustang soo bad can you please give it to me that'd be great thanks

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Trickynicky B Hahahaha I doubt this one will be for sale

@chopperjoe2131

6 жыл бұрын

Foxcast Media if I were you guys I would put mr hanky type wheels on it "Dogdish style" if that's what their called with a CB radio and 24" antenna in the back with dark tinted windows... it would look super bad ass

👍 on the video. I particularly liked when you pointed out the difference between LX & GT is only the trim. My 90 LX is making 204whp. It has been lightly modified. GT40P heads with 1.7 rockers, tubular headers, CAI with 1" manifold spacer. To help reduce drivetrain loss, an aluminum drive shaft. Keep up the good work with the videos. Can't wait to hear your Coyote swap fire up.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million Matt, first fire coming this weekend! Your fox sounds like a ton of fun too!

@mattoliver7650

6 жыл бұрын

Foxcast Media looking forward to the video.

@darryl163

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Oliver wow it should be making more than 204whp...cool car regardless

@mattoliver7650

6 жыл бұрын

Your Flooring I bought my Fox in 2006, so it's been a while since I was digging into my Fox. If I recall correctly, the GT40P heads are 58cc combustion chamber. I think it only bumped compression by .5. Stock cam shaft, so with the 1.7 rocker the valves now open to .471. Stock cam with 1.6 rocker, is/was .444. Another piece to the picture, my Fox is an auto car.

@darryl163

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Oliver oh ok autocar that makes the difference right there.. i remember back in the day i had an 87gt 5 speed e303 cam stock e7 heads..shorty headers offroad h pipe flowmaster 10s...dont know what it dynoed but i got her into the 13s driving the absolute shit out of it lol...now i have another 87gt mostly stock just headers and exhaust its a dog but i love it

When I was younger I had a `91 Mustang LX Convertible 5.0, loved that thing. Even though it had a little more weight from the top and subframe connectors, it seemed to balance out vs. the extra ground effects. Mine would outrun many of my friend's GT's. Not sure if it was weight, or perhaps I drove better, but I definitely preferred the LX 5.0 with the shiny chrome pipes sticking out from under the bumper. Recently got a 2018 5.0 GT Convertible, metallic grey with the upgraded aluminum wheels, WAAAAAY faster :-)

also, the lx was found to be a little quicker than the gt due to weight differences. i remember reading that back in the day in hot rod or something.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Davis Yes sir, but not by a whole lot

@chrisdavis7883

6 жыл бұрын

that was always my assumption, at that point it was arguing samantics...

@fanghicheck

6 жыл бұрын

gears helped make it a little quicker

@mustangmarty8491

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Davis yes sir ur right they where 300 lbs. Lighter

@chrisdavis7883

6 жыл бұрын

wow, didnt think there was that much difference

People actually have told you that an LX is slower than a GT?? LOL...The LX is faster since they tended to be a bit lighter. Your stripper LX is a good example of that. GT's tended to be loaded. Although I have a friend that had a stripper 87 GT with manual windows and mirrors. He had the only one I ever saw that way. He nicknamed it the Amish mustang. Great video like normal. Your videos really make me want to find another foxbody mustang.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

jason mcquinn I’m not shitting you bro, I hear it constantly

@hudsondonnell444

6 жыл бұрын

My first fox was a '91 5.0 hatchback. The only GT that I would want is a '85 year model.

@darryl163

6 жыл бұрын

jason mcquinn very cool i have an 87 gt factory stripper manual everything was wondering how rare it is

The 87-88 motors were no more stout than the 89-92, however the hotter cam and speed density fueling made them the only true factory 225hp cars. 2-3hp was lost going to the milder cam and mass-air. All 5.0 Mustangs used forged pistons from 85-92 and were replaced by sintered.powdered metal hyper-eutectic types in 93. Forged pistons are marked trw on the underside. Proud owner of a showroom stock 89 GT daily driver. Great video.

Good video. You gave me knowledge I didn’t know. I’m definitely a subscriber now.

FYI: lx coupe is 500 lbs lighter than a gt hatchback. so technically by wieght to hp ratio lx should be faster

@michaelharris748

5 жыл бұрын

They are not 500 lbs lighter please dont spread misinfo like this. The fox lx compared to gt might have been 100 or so lbs max prob not even that now if you have a stripped lx notchback compared to a loaded gt it may be closer to 150 but no way its more than that. It is more than 500 less than even a base modern gt if thats what you meant. But fox lx notch vs gt hatch its nowhere near that number in weight difference

Come get some 900hp 2.3!!!!!! BOI !!!!!

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Hahha theres a bunch of those 2.3Ts doin work!

@southjerseysound7340

6 жыл бұрын

@@FoxcastMedia years ago I had one with a holset hx35 putting 348@ the wheels lol. Its nothing now but around 96-97 it hurt a LOT of guys feelings.

I have a 1985 gt..my question is ?is there any reason other then putting on bigger tires..why do people take off the second rear shock...ive only seen 1 with the second shock..i dont even know what its called..

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Most people do it to clear larger tires, and they are called "quad shocks"

@carlmotorhead1

5 жыл бұрын

It was to keep the car from diving forward under braking, and trying to brake hard and turn/swerve to keep the car under control so the rear of the car wouldn't try to pass the front of the car! Hence better handling ! Less Wrecked Mustangs!

You said it right "some of the Speed Density cars are stout due to forged pistons" etc.... My 86 GT vert ran 9.71 (1/8 mile of course) factory when I first bought it in 1993. My 91 GT never did better then 9.85 with 25 more horses. Both cars AOD and me driving. The rear gear helps out the 86 though coming factory with a 3.27 due to the ragtop while the 91 had a (pitiful)2.73 gear. My best friend had a 86 Gt hatchback that would destroy most 87 -93 cars and it was bone stock. Speed density is good/fine until you muck with the cam too much. Alot of your talking point were spot on. I hear them all the time. Funny stuff.

@fanghicheck

6 жыл бұрын

2.73 ? i heard that number before , how was the MPG on the freeway ?

@yellowfoxbodyguy

6 жыл бұрын

if you baby them the 2.73 gear would get 25-26 on the interstate compared to 22-24 with the 3.27. American Muscle and LMR both have all the factory gears for sale

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

The '86 model had the E6 heads, which really lacked in the flow department, '87 brought the E7 heads which was sorely needed lol

@jeffwells4364

6 жыл бұрын

The 86 has a different piston design and a different head “turbo swirl” they called them but flow suffered tremendously I’ve had 100’s of fox bodies and my 88 was my favorite as far as stock 1989 is a really good year with forged trw pistons for a 175 shot of nitrous 😬

The LXs were actually faster than the GT because the GT was heavier. Plus the power rating was 5 hp different between the 5spd and AOD cars. I think car and driver listed them at like 210 auto 215 5spd.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Less weight always means faster given the same power, and the engines were rated the same, but the AOD sucked a ton of power

@mustangmarty8491

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Sak I bought 1 new in 88 & i had an 87, the horse power rating was 225 & it went down i believe to 215 in 90 or 93.

@richardsak887

6 жыл бұрын

Marty Collins yes...I believe you are correct. Long time ago lol. I remember being a car obsessed teen (14 in 88) and reading all the different magazines dreaming of driving soon. I remember the manual and AOD varied in HP but exact numbers are a bit fuzzy. Little did I know my first Mustang wouldn't come until 2017 at 43 thanks to NYC Insurance rates...the insurance companies just laughed at me when I was a single 17 year old lol. Now, my Mustang GT cost 90 dollars more every 6 months than my leased 2014 Focus did before that. Age does have its privileges sometimes hahaha.

@rigerdeal8551

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I can remember back then the LX was faster than the GT

@richardsak887

6 жыл бұрын

Nimbus Nimbus I dont know how they were eating them but I clearly remember in the back of the magazines at the time where they would list all the cars they have tested and their specs, there was a 5hp difference between manual and AOD. I dont know how they were eating the power but I do know they had a number listed and then another one in parentheses with the other trans.

Here is a misconception for you, " mustang's are junk."... says the LS fanboy using a foxbody chassis lol.

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

100% agreed Nathan

@bdd1469

6 жыл бұрын

Because Chevy guys are smart enough to know fox body stangs are super light, dirt cheap, and the aftermarket sells everything you need to replace all the ford junk .😎

@8.2deck

6 жыл бұрын

bdd1469 could not have said that better

@shwayjayy

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe from 1990 an on there junk i can agree there. Anything before the 90's was dam good.

@dougdragoo8516

6 жыл бұрын

And slow af

I had an 88 lx 5.0. A friend had an 87 gt. The ground effects added enough weight that the lx was responded to throttle better and the suspension was effectivly stiffer because of lower weight. My 88 had an overbored cylinder. I had a couple of Lincoln Mercury mechanics who were members of the mustang club replace the short block under warranty. When I got it back, it had huge power compared to stock ( felt faster than a 4.6, 3 valve 2005) and got 30 mpg on the highway. In my mind last of the "pony cars" due to compact size and lower weight.

Hey I was wondering if you know the name of the rims on that car cause i just bought the same rims and I'm trying to find the caps for them. Thanks

If i hear one more idiot selling an explorer intake calling it a GT40 and asking $300 for it, I am going to scream. That and those that say you HAVE to set the TPS to .98 and that underdrive pulley do anything but cause overheating and cooling problems

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

MrMikestang63 Damn, I forgot those! Good call

@bigdaddy7119

6 жыл бұрын

Nimbus Nimbus correct. They ARE a GT40 intake. Just not the tubular upper intake, which you’re going to pay big💰 for IF you can find one. I remember that article in MM&FF too that you’re talking about on the flow numbers between the Tubular intake and the ‘93 Cobra/5.0 Explorer intake.

@bigdaddy7119

6 жыл бұрын

Nimbus Nimbus on a factory vehicle, yes. They came stock on the SAAC Fox Mustangs too. You could order them through Ford Racing back in the day too.

@DAllman1

6 жыл бұрын

One for sale on Corral.net for $300 right now, not gold

@blowme6963

6 жыл бұрын

TPS is no joke.

Ok. Let's get the bad out of the way first. When it comes to an 88 speed density car vs an 89 mass air, I will choose the mass air every time. Why? Because although people say the 88 was the fastest, EVERY freak car that I came across was an 89 and the 89 had the best cam as well. Every 88 that I worked on was lacking a bit in the torque department compared to an 89. Now, a big thanks for being the other person that seems to knw why Ford put the name Cobra on the cars. I was getting sick and tired of dumbasses telling me they had a special edition. Same with the Anniversary plaque on the dash. YOUR CAR IS NOT SPECIAL BECAUSE OF THE PLAQUE. Blue hoses are silicone. Called the rims 10 holes. 1987 GT had "cheesegrater tailights" and "food processor" rims.A fully loaded LX hatch would weigh the same as a GT. Hatch weighs 50 lbs more than trunk, but some people believe that the weight is in the right spot, over the rear wheels to give more traction. Chidrole and Jay Why. J&P used to race turbo Dodges and went Ford hard core when Joe got the red notchback. Last name is Da Silva. Paul had the black Mercury Cougar XR7. Paul did the engine work. They started off in Scarborough. Barbados Ct. Joe and Paul went separate ways Da Silva racing with Joe selling a lot of bolt ons and body kits. Paul is PSP (Paul Silva Performance). Joe's shop is 1km from my house and the last time I saw Paul was.....yesterday at Cayuga. Back in the day, I bought some parts from J&P and engine parts from Tommy Morana at AfFORDable performance and Wade from RCHS. Chassis parts from Lucky Marcos at Lucky's performance where we used to buy our VP fuels on the way to Cayuga. I met Joe and Paul at Finch and Weston in 1988. Tommy Morana at Vic Park and Gordon Baker in 1987. Also we went to Warden and Sheppard, Dundas and Confederation, Pine Valley and HWY7. All after midnight, if you know what I mean... Go back to the track, you won't regret it. What smells better than burnt VP fuel and tire smoke? Have an unhealthy burger and fries and sit on the same bleachers from back in the day. Saw a bunch of 1980-1990 Mustangs yesterday. Nothing newer. Some of them still powershifting a 5 speed running insane times.

2:52 Could you tell me what that fan assembly is? I wanna keep a clutch fan on my GT vert for the old-school look, and I'm loving that one!

My favorite fox body mustang years where the 79-86. Love the 4 eyed versions. I currently own a 85 gt hatchback which did not have all the extra skirtings the 87-93 had.

@302mustanggt8

2 жыл бұрын

See i have an 86 foxbody convertible, and its the newer style with the round lights like the car in the video. So do you think I should but interior parts for an 86 or an 87

Dude!!! I get it your goin after the non fox or mustang crowd, but dang,its getting old with your not working on or not finishing your coyote build and 3rd grader vids , not to be a jerk but you need to see make a decision on who you want to be your followers, someone who can't change a spark plug or true foxbody lovers???

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

lville lville Ok ok I’m headed there now! Geez 😂

It's still just an escort with a v8...

@Davido50

6 жыл бұрын

Big Phizzle Escorts were great. Ur not.

@cellphonelightsaber

5 жыл бұрын

Big muscle in a rally chassis sounds good to me.

@jimgarrity2414

5 жыл бұрын

An interceptor v8 :P

Had 87 freak 5.0 gt. Ran low 13.80s @102 stock engine with drag radials with pro 5.o shifter, and h pipe and flomasters.

@black88lx

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Neeley my 88 did the same only with 373 gears. Stock shifter. Stock h pipe 😂 just flow masters and gutted cats

I watched one of your videos and found it very interesting my car has been at a well-known shop in Virginia for a engine rebuild now for about a year

I wanna get into drag racing and am wondering would a convertible 5.0 foxbody Mustang be a good start

All the speedometers were certified the same way. I worked for ford and ran a department that did warranty swaps on clusters. We ran calibration tests on ALL the clusters we touched. Same bench, same program.

@jamesr2888

3 жыл бұрын

In Parma, OH?

Hey bro.. just did my 373 gears any ideas why im getting that whining noise when i let go of the gas?

I own a '90 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, the "rich man's Fox". I love everything about it. 170K miles, virtually all stock, it's a great Fox body platform car and a hot rod Lincoln luxury sports coupe all in one.

I have a 91 grand Marquis with a 5.0 is my engine the same as the mustang or is it d tuned

Holy cow that was the most information I've ever gotten for my fox body I have a four-eyed Fox body, I was corrected a couple months ago with the Canadian Cobra aspect of it, I did buy my in Canada I've had it since 1989 it's an 85, it's black with the gray interior I don't think they made a lot of them the kilometer aspect on the speedometer is kind of funny, but I can't tell you how much I appreciate all the information you have given me, if I'm not mistaken the GT of that 85s were actually somewhere between 3 to 500 lb heavier because of the hatchback style trunk, but I could be wrong I'm not sure again thank you for all your information it is extremely useful, so I don't make an ass out of myself again. On the upside I do love that 85 it is brutally quick it is completely original, and it's kind of like driving a cat with its tail on fire it just wants to come around on you.lol

Just wondering wat u thought about the 4 cylinder turbo mustangs. I’m about to buy a very clean 93 and was just wondering

Bought a 88 LX hatchback 4 cyl 5-speed over 15 years ago. Never had any intention of putting a V-8 in her. I've thought more along the lines of turbocharged to keep the front end lighter. Anyway it's a fun car that handles corners well.

@Dwightsp26

5 жыл бұрын

I've had both 4 cyl really handles twistys much better than an 8 in a drag both 90 lx 4 cly and 90 gt 5.0 both in pretty much stock form the gt just slowly walked away from the 4 cyl both fun cars and i think both can be killers on the ashphalt

Finally, someone who understands Fox Bodies, I have had Mercury Zephyr, Ford Fairmonts, Mercury Capri and 4 pot headlight Mustangs all Fox Bodies, and yes you;'re correct about the Cobra name, it follows the same concept if you don't use the name you lose it, it is part of the copyright laws, you have earned a new subscriber.

My favorite was the one I had. 92 GT with the LX bumpers and side skirts taken off of course. They look so much better without those garbage ground effects

I just turned 17 and for my birthday my dad got me a 4 cylinder 93 fox body lx convertible.

@JB-tb2qp

5 жыл бұрын

Swap out the 4cyl for something 8cyl 👿

You so absolutely right, finally there is someone else out there that knows something about mustang. I agree with everything you said about the mustang. As far as the fox bodies go's, GM cars were label as fox bodies doing the 80s as well. The Carmaro, SS Monticarlo, Buick Grand National and so on. Most people at car shows and different car events that i go to only thing that mid 80s and early 90s mustangs was label as fox body. Most of them are 40 years of age and younger. They look at me as if i don't know what in the hell I'm talking about. SMH.

This made me giggle. I've heard all those things before. Great video

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I figured some of y'all would get a kick out of this one

Finaly someone with knowlodge on these awesome cars... And by the way all it takes is reading ..History of mustangs snd it presents all this info... Specialy the foxbody concept wich was shared with other models as the cougar, thunderbird and such. Good going on the video... Man.👍

Oh' sorry i forgot to ask & I'm sorry if i missed it. But what do you guy's charge for a cobra swap? Would appreciate it if you could let me know, again thank you sir, ur video's help.

Did ssp cars have different pump?Because when u buy a new pump it lists a different part number for ssp and gt but idk for sure never seen both side by side

so there is no difference between the notchback and the gt even when it comes how ones shaped different than the other in the back in terms of any sort of speed or handling advantages? also does one weigh more than the other or do they both weigh roughly the same?

Would you know the the name of that fan setup (clutch and blade)? I want that for my '89 GT

I’m curious to what I had, in 1985 I bought a mustang GT “IROC SLAYER” it was a sticker on each side of the hood on the ridge line. I bought it new from the Ford dealership and owned it from 85-94. In all those years I never saw another one of those, so was it something the dealer did or what. Btw the emblem was not on top of the paint but underneath the clear coat.

Man I love your channel I miss my 87 lx notchback so bad hopefully one day I will have another one

Loving the page, man! S197 fan here!

My brother had a 80 lx he away said because it lighter it was faster then a gt? Also did police interceptor have a larger radiator?.

maybe you can answer my question. when was the last year that the 5.0 came with forged pistons? was it 92 or 91?

@FoxcastMedia

6 жыл бұрын

'92 was the last year of the good stuff

@93stang19

5 жыл бұрын

Thats correct .... I bought a 93 😭...... Beautiful car but with the hypers in it rather than forged pistons.....

@sombra6153

4 жыл бұрын

The 92, IIRC, was the last year for the official 225 hp rating. The 93s were reportedly only rated at 205 hp. I can’t remember if Ford was up front about this at the beginning of the 93 model year, or whether the made the claim when the 94 was introduced with the 215 hp 302. I remember that there were complaints that the 94 was lower in horse power, so Ford claimed that there had been subtle changes through the years that lowered the 302’s output and that they had changed the way power was calculated. The result according to the factory was that the 94 GT was 10 hp higher than the 93. In the real world, the 93-95 GTs didn’t run as quick as the 87-93 models. I had a 92 LX 5 speed with some minor JBA work that was a legit high 13 car if I could get it hooked up consistently.

Yes you covered the one peeve I have, that the Mustang was the only Fox-body. I miss my '81 Fairmont.