Testing forks on two bikes with different geometry ... Seems legit

@skeres01

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Even on the same bike, changing the rear setup by small increments can give a significantly different feel to the front end. #HeadScratching

@wesleyhanson1457

3 жыл бұрын

They only used the two bikes for filming. All testing was done on the RAAW. Check out the article on pinkbike

@ImpulseAudioSpeakers

3 жыл бұрын

@@wesleyhanson1457 they really should have said that at the start of the video. Was confusing and he covered a lot of technical stuff so leaving that out is weird.

@Luisvargas-il7pf

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@aleksarajkovic3471

2 жыл бұрын

@Blah Blah well, admittedly, fox works better in small increments hands down, BUT I would always pick RS since its cheaper to buy and service tbh

would it not of made more sense to use the exact same bike, wheels, tyre pressures etc (no hate)

@rasmusvedel

3 жыл бұрын

have*

@dylanmartin6405

3 жыл бұрын

@@rasmusvedel of is the verb

@theferociousmuncher1771

3 жыл бұрын

totally agree. but i think that if you are skilled and have lots if experience you can tell if the difference that you are feeling are down to the fork or the bike

@ritchiephillips5084

3 жыл бұрын

How about the same travel? Fox 170mm, ZEB 180mm

@yaishmatheen4274

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanmartin6405 that is not true. Would it not have is the correct way to write it.

i'd like to see a similar test for the cheaper rythm/performance/RC models from fox/rockshox!

@adamneulander

3 жыл бұрын

As much as that'd be nice, a rhythm fork only comes as OEM, meaning the people that video would be relevant to would be a smaller group than some other comparison, say revelation to bomber z2, therefore it wouldn't be as effective as making a comparison that applies to everyone.

@yoondaman316

3 жыл бұрын

The Rhythm and the Revelation are surprisingly good forks. Those forks came on a demo Santa Cruz Hightower (RS) and Stumpjumper (Fox). I recently bought a used Rhythm.

@adamneulander

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoondaman316 I've heard of people buying takeoff rhythms, is that worth it over buying a bomber z2 or z1

@HannyDart

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoondaman316 i know i know! i just switched from a pike rc to a 34 rythm doing a mullet conversion! I think for most people a comparison between budget/oem-spec forks would be way more interesting. :)

@HannyDart

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamneulander im not sure... most people are riding oem-speced bikes and are *not* considering spending a grand on a new fork. But if youre planning on buying a new bike you often have to chose between RS or Fox parts so it would be good to know their strenghts and weaknesses to make a better decision when choosing what new bike you want to buy

1:46 here it starts to become Obvious that the presenter didnt get enough sleep last night

@skvedo

3 жыл бұрын

adding to fall asleep playlist

Whoa! Difficult assignment there. And nicely done. I’m pretty sure which one would feel better to me - thanks to your detailled evaluations. Thanks. And good luck. Nice videography also.

I don't know what people are talking about. I love the presenter. Easy to understand and very informative.

Nice test mate. Good tech content and explanations. Excellent neutral assessments and verdict. So everybody can set their own priorities and decide based on their preferences and riding style. Ans as you stated there are really no winners or loosers here. These forks are so well developed that the vast majority of people (and I include myself) could not even find or analyse those minute differences.

Rockshox are so easy to set up, and often cheaper and lighter

@arloridesbikes9921

3 жыл бұрын

Not that weight matters if you are buying a zeb

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

I have never had a Fox fork or shock that didn't give me tons of problems.

@paradox963

3 жыл бұрын

There is also the fact that Rockshox give you twice as long a warranty compared to fox.

@santisanti7048

3 жыл бұрын

But fox offers more stiffness and support, feels more safe I think, I like fox more.Not about looking

@Andrea-qg5yk

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshporter5773 they're basically Fox rhythm forks sooo... no thanks

Big fan of the 36...but I got a lyric on my second bike and found it much easier to work with and an easier riding feel. Same appears to be between the 38 and the Zeb. Id gladly spend my $$ on a Zeb, save some weight, and time in fiddling the setup. It also looks a bit better, more modern lines in the the design than the fox.

I love how im watching this as if I need either of these forks when my local trails need a fox 34 or rockshocks pike at most 😂

@yyeyehdhhfiudu5136

3 жыл бұрын

Who cares what trails you ride bigger is better always;)

@FlyEaglesFly333

3 жыл бұрын

Right!? I have a Pike and it's more than enough for 99% of the trails I ride. It's just cool to listen to and keep up with the Fork wars!

@onemanmob6756

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you are an EWC/UCI-DH-level basher or/and a 100+kg advanced rider - you'll be unable to make a difference between these 38mm forks and the 36/lyrik forks and it also takes a pro Enduro or DH racer to be capable of properly test these forks - not just a mid-skilled jurno (no offence). for 80% ppl 34/pike is more than enough... a valid application for the 38mm forks would be aggressive ebikes, like Commencal Meta Power.

@gesundheitstips2197

3 жыл бұрын

@@onemanmob6756 I m definitely a random not super skilled or heavy rider. Still there is a big difference for me between a Pike and a 36. With the 38 ZEB its probably overkill, if you are not living next to a bikepark.

@onemanmob6756

3 жыл бұрын

@@gesundheitstips2197 You must then be within those remaining 20% - savour it 🙂

Super looking track, great to see some European content coming through!!!

@thomaswindsor9485

3 жыл бұрын

would love to see more like this in the future

Solid video. Appreciate all the details and opinions. I'm researching a replacement for a Yari Ultimate on my Trek Rail 9.7. It would be cool and nice to have the bleed ports that are on both of the latest of these models, however I'll be just fine with a 22' Zeb for just over $700 US.

Great video guys! 💪🏻

Great video! Would have loved to see some break-down of either fork in the b-roll

The Zeb is the sickest Fork in my opinion 😍😍

@parassafaeticker1244

3 жыл бұрын

*opinion

@pgbmxrler

3 жыл бұрын

Have you used both?

@userbosco

3 жыл бұрын

@@pgbmxrler crickets... LOL

love the fox 38 it just sticks to the ground really well

I currently am running rockshox both front and rear but i still miss the suspension of my old bike. the rockshox is good but nothing beats fox if you ask me. but to be honest. i'm on the lyric fork and the positives the fox have aren't big compared to the lyric. but the rear shock however makes a bigger difference. so big in fact that i'm seriously considering spending the money to get a fox rear shock for my bike instead of the "special" rockshox shock. it is the shock that rockshox and trek worked together to make but i still haven't fallen in love with it even after over a year of riding.

Top notch review cheers!

Absolutely excellent analysis

Great comparison. Cheers! 👍

very well explained and understandable.

Well done, nice comparison. I would ride both ^^

That’s just great, as if I needed another component to add to the wish list 😆

I'm a big fan with both brand as with my first mtb comes with a fox suspension but ended up liking more the perf and quality of Rs after years.. And that's why Zeb is better IMO faster to dialed, top tier perf and better aesthetics😊👍🏻👊 btw great comparison👍🏻👍🏻

@yengsabio5315

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of MTBers that I know say that Fox is overrated. But I have not used one, so I don't easily know what to respond but "I have not idea."

Thank you for this clear explanation. I tried the two forks. You might agree with me if we talk about durability. Fox is clearly superior

I have a Trek.Procaliber 9.7 with Rockshock Reba that did not work from the start so they made a Debon air upgrade. And man is this fork great.

Put in coils in either fork and now we're talking!!! That said I've always preferred Rockshox. From the first Judys(circa 1995) to the Boxxers on my old DH rig, they've always been bomber (Hmm, Marzocchi coils are excellent too).

Nice work 👊

Thanks for this good vidéo 👌

0:14 that’s what she said

@zacg2953

3 жыл бұрын

thats... kinda the joke

@felixfam0481

3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, Nice 👌

I’m pretty sure if I were getting one of those I’d go for the zeb dual air. I currently have a lyrik dual air and very much like the travel drop feature for climbing.

@harperfoster3000

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you can get the zeb in duel air

I would love either fork, currently riding lyrik on my YT decoy, I want to upgrade but not sure whether to get new Zeb or 38 or convert my lyrik with vorsuprung smashpot coil.

Let's just admit that their both extremely high end and well performing forks from two of the leading brands

That was great!

Are those clicks "jordi-clicks" (from fully closed) or do you count them from fully open like shown in this clip?

Excellent video! Can relate to the rockshox lowers being tight for hubs and having to spread the lowers to get the tire in!

The servicing time window would make the choice for me ... .

Buen video, gracias por la información!!!

I just ordered a bike with the zeb and I am very excited to give it a try.

@daveybmtb

3 жыл бұрын

I just got mine... its unbelievably good!!

@hannesnohl8627

3 жыл бұрын

@@daveybmtb same

@bert3566

3 жыл бұрын

Better then the 38?

@t4n101

3 жыл бұрын

@@bert3566 honestly from what I have heard I would say the zeb is about the same if not better because of the zebs price.

Great comparison content. Thanks. Now compare apples and oranges with a Zeb vs Z1 coil. ;)

Would you not use a hard tail since your testing the front suspension, so the back doesn’t distract you?

Someone get this guy some CAFFINE !!!

@ifonly4486

3 жыл бұрын

And some caffeine as well !!

@TheNuclearBolton

3 жыл бұрын

@@ifonly4486 and maybe some more caffeine

@bridgetwhite3149

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheNuclearBolton and a side of caffeine

@exothermal.sprocket

4 ай бұрын

Try some Kaphagne.

Interesting. My new bike is coming with a 38 (and a fox coil). I really value ease of set up (now that I have kids/job and would rather ride than tinker) I don't want to fiddle with suspension I just want to set it up and forget about it. I don't have time anyone to learn the dark arts of suspension wizardry. I'm disappointed to hear fox recommend settings are pants at such a price point I'd expect it to be idiot proof and no tinkering. On my work tools I now only buy stuff that has constant repeatable reliable set up vs have to double check alignment etc everytime you move something. Check for shipping damage/defects when I first get them is about as much as I can bear!

Is that the sram centerline 2 piece rotor up front on the zeb? If so where can I find one in 200mm the largest I have been able to find is 180mm

Seems like you got too many spacers in the 38, which will prevent a complete use of the travel, but also moves the "working area" deeper down the travel. With less spacers and maybe even a little less sag this could probably have been fixed.

Interesting to see you arrive at a different conclusion than some other head to head videos favoring the Fox, which reinforces the notion that they're close on performance.

@gpearce11

3 жыл бұрын

Most head to head comparisons focus almost entirely on their performance, where the 38 has the edge (as mentioned in the end of this video). But Pinkbike have reasoned that unless you're a pro, you'll probably appreciate the easier setup and lower price of the Zeb more than any performance difference. If I remember correctly, WWC and The Lost Co. both considered this comparison basically a draw depending on what you prefer; outright performance, or value and ease of use.

@mikes.8305

3 жыл бұрын

@@gpearce11 WWC and Lost Co are cool groups, but they are also trying to sell product. Especially since many brands are selling out this year, it wouldn’t make sense for them to favor a product.

@gpearce11

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikes.8305 While that is very true, I do appreciate that even after they always say "they're both great, and you can't go wrong with either", both Chris from WWC and Mike from TLC make sure to tell us which product they personally prefer. Mike, for example, was very clear that the Zeb is the better choice of you're happy with a fork that feels 95% dialed, and is very quick to get to 95%. But he also said that his preference was the Fox 38, because even though it takes way longer to purposely set up, he can get it 100% dialed (he actually said almost exactly the same thing about the Super Deluxe vs Float X2, so this may be a more general Rockshox vs Fox thing). Ironically, in an earlier 36 vs 38 video he said that because he a small rider he actually still prefers the lighter 36, finding the 38 to stiff, which was a nice reminder that not every latest and greatest product is actually better for everyone.

It is normal that my foc 38 grip 2 vvc has only 7 high compression clicks if in the manual I have seen that it has 8? I have opened the cartridge and the guide it has for the clicks is well mounted and I only manage to get the 7 clicks out of it, is it normal? Thank you

Did you use both forks on the same bike ? I'm asking because the headtube angle seems different between the 2 bikes in this video. Imho this might also influence the behaviour of the forks...

@notjacob923

2 жыл бұрын

1 isn't better than the other. it's just what he likes

Can you run the nukeproof mega 290, with 180mm fork and coil on the rear ?

That’s interesting,I took my 38 out of the box,used the setup instructions on the website and it’s perfect 🤔

@christiaanneethling3675

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewisnotgriffin maybe i did🤭

@notjacob923

2 жыл бұрын

Fox is super hard to get perfect. But they pay off once you do

Hey guys i have a GT SENSOR COMP ALLOY 2020 and i would like to upgrade the fork and i'm thinking about getting the ZEB, would it fit in my bike?

I would love and XC version of this, with the SID and 32

@rienvel2594

3 жыл бұрын

the sr suntour epicon/epixon makes the 32 look like utter garbage.. the 32 flexes too much when it hits a medium sized rock when braking but idk abt the sid i never tried one before

Well I was sure I wanted the 38 and now I gotta start thinking it over again lol

Most of the complaints seem to be that the fox is harder to setup. I can only assume that’s aimed at the grip2 damper that has more settings, this can’t exactly be used as a bad point. The charger 3 has virtually the same adjustments now. Between equivalent forks there’s no major difference between them, zeb vs 38/lyrik vs 36 etc. You cannot compare the fork without factoring in which damper it is.

this is great in depth vid.. but only wanna know what they feel like... my head is spinning rn with all these specs lol

Another quality PB video. Testing TWO different forks on TWO different bikes. Gotta love PB's "feel facts"

@gpearce11

3 жыл бұрын

Well their geometry is almost identical (only 0.5° or less different in seat tube and headtube angles) and they have the same rear shock, so the differences shouldn't be too different. Having the same frame would have probably been a good idea though (Nukeproof even makes a Rockshox equipped version: the RS, although then the rear shock would have changed as well).

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

@@gpearce11 swap forks bike to bike mid-day

Just curious why not use the same bikes?

shouldnt they put it on the same bike?

Nice videos

On both forks can u change travel or is it separate forks

I think if your concerned about weight while picking a fork with 38 mil stantions then you might be on the wrong bike

@TeamCykelhold

3 жыл бұрын

10% weight increase is 10% no matter if it's heavy to begin.

@lukesteele5013

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeamCykelhold yea but a bike that is ment to run these forks is going to be around 30 pounds no matter what you do to save weight so does it really matter in the end

@TeamCykelhold

3 жыл бұрын

It adds up. if you keep thinking weight doesn't matter at all, your 30 pnd will become 37 and it most certainly will matter when you pedal it. I'm not saying it's the most important factor, but it does matter. For me, i'd much rather have a mezzer than both of these forks. It's stiff enough (37mm stanchions) and it weighs 2kg, and the damper is great.

@lukesteele5013

3 жыл бұрын

@@TeamCykelhold ok

Pls make a video where you compare the Yari with the Rhythm

@jamesbeauchamp7934

3 жыл бұрын

Rythym feels just about exactly the same as a fox performance, it just has a heavier chassis. Yari uses the motion control damper which is old and not very good, but the fork still feels buttery and the air spring is great.

@LCNismo

3 жыл бұрын

Sell either fork. If you need to keep either one, keep the fox. Based off the performance version from fox.

@xx-----------xx873

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesbeauchamp7934 You can upgrade both of them to whatever damper/coil you want, so that's not really an issue either.

@polishguywithhardtospellna8227

3 жыл бұрын

Yari is aftermarket fork while rhythm is OEM only with a lot of limitation in options department. And pink bike is not exactly a "make a wish" channel. For cheaper forks your only option is to watch what is on YT, no one is making comparisons as a viewer request content as they're not hype enough products

No levy or kaz?

Sorry mate what's your weight? To have a better reference or yout settings?

Why two different bikes...?

OH MY GAWD, I want to ride there.

which is softer the fox or the zeb?

This is what I needed I don’t know which one to get

@reedbushey1360

3 жыл бұрын

same!

@Jswiss35

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t write off the DVO Onyx, a seriously impressive third option

@dlogan14

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqCXpcuJmpqae7Q.html

@eugenux

3 жыл бұрын

zeb for buget, fox performance elite otherwise. kashima is for money-no-object/snobs.

@xx-----------xx873

3 жыл бұрын

@Joplin Murphy yep, the BikeRadar comparison is far better.

Well, makes me feel that I bought my Zeb for the right reasons. Can't wait for mine to show up!

Everyone compares the fox 38 factory with the zeb, but, one mentions which Zeb. There’s Zeb ultimate, Zeb select, and Zeb select plus!

He told us the settings he ended up (which is a good think and thank you) but he never said us: 1. Forks travel 2. His weight. Unless i missed that. So could you also share the above info?

@staffy1roy

2 жыл бұрын

On the pinkbike article it says he's 75kg

Any Clyde's on here test them both? I upgrade from a 36 to a 38 and the fork pressures are around max for me to almost reach sag. I'm 120kg kitted out on a Devinci AC. I'm assuming due to the Zeb air spring the pressures wouldn't be as high.

@samc821

3 жыл бұрын

Im the same weight as you and run my zeb select plus at 60psi with one token at 22% sag, amazing how little pressure this fork needs, oh and i got it for $1100 nearly new whereas the cheapest second hand 38 ive seen was $2100...

@yakbiker75

3 жыл бұрын

@@samc821 I didn't pay retail thankfully, thanks for confirming my thoughts though. I would definitely by the zeb if upgrading again..... Happy trails.

Is it weird if I run rockshox front fox rear

And Im still with my Totem rc2hd, to which I cant see any reasonable successor

@Beli4l

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sorry for you then, cuz the lyric ive been using over the last few years is not even a comparsion to that old turd youre using

@overlogged

3 жыл бұрын

@@Beli4l youre blessed with "I dont know what Im talking about" man ;) Im happy for you :)

Idc if the Fox takes slightly longer to setup. I do care which one feels better once it is setup properly. I went with the 38 and I hope I made the right choice. But if not I can always just sell it and buy a Zeb.

Good comparison! I have the Zeb on my ebike and love it. Have a 36 on another bike but the zeb wins for me as it’s super plush, easy to setup and cheaper! I have heard that the 38 can be used for 27.5 and 29 wheels though which could be an advantage if true.

Quite fancy myself the manitou Mezzer

Somebody understood where exactli in Switzerland he is?

Hi, do you test the ZEB with Tokens?

I'd take a 2020 Lyrik Ultimate over the current Zeb. If not for its price I'd choose the 38.

@dukeofmtb

3 жыл бұрын

2nd that. The Lyrik Ultimate is still top dog in my opinion. Best all rounder.

@felipefarias7654

3 жыл бұрын

Especially with the 2020 Debon Air, butter smoooth!

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

Ill take my lyrik over a 38. Fox shocks and forks have been nothing but problems for me. Fox looks out and takes care of their customers, but issues are too frequent and happen for no apparent reason.

@dukeofmtb

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dude-Smellmyhelmet I just got a bike with a 36 and an X2. Gotta say..a bit disappointed. It feels harsh on the rough chunky stuff. I felt like I could plow through anything with my old Rockshox but not with Fox. Might sell it and switch back to a Lyrik and a Super Deluxe with a megneg. 🤷‍♂️

@lamefart

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dude-Smellmyhelmet found great feedbacks from those new 38s though.. No major issues. For now. 😅 The latest comparo reviews always made it on top.

For the Zeb I need adaptors to disk brakes ?

@loiczeq5551

3 жыл бұрын

nope you don't need for 200mm but you can't run 180mm

I bought the 38. I feel the damping on the rockshox was to harsh. Small bump sensitive wasn't there for me.

@pathfindr_

3 жыл бұрын

that is common if you're a lighter rider or don't push your bike very hard because the charger dampers are too overdamped for those scenarios. RockShox's fault really

@sacha2711

3 жыл бұрын

which damping?

@jessehill3780

3 жыл бұрын

@@pathfindr_ I think that’s more to do with the air spring. The 38 new air spring is just simply a better design from just about every comparison and it’s a bit more tunable whereas most people find themselves with 0 tokens in the RS Zeb/Lyrik and still have a fairly high ramp up at end of travel. I’ve really liked my lyrik with HC97 but I’m trying the 38 on my new frame whenever it comes. The better sensitivity and improved air spring design sound impressive.

@tonwhelan

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, that's usually a common complaint I see of the fox not the RS. And having used both, I feel the same. All fox forks are too harsh in my opinion

38 is my favorite fork of all time

@hle6391

3 жыл бұрын

why exactly? :)

Why don't more manufacturers offer a choice in which one you want?

I like Dan

I dont need any of these forks for my type of riding, but the zeb ultimate had a discount of 250$ off! I'm looking at the marzocchi z1 and zeb ultimate, why are they the same price. I just click and bought the zeb.

I think mentioning personal suspension settings is a bit of a waste of time. I run a 170mm travel Fox 38 and initially used the standard settings but I’m now running no tokens, as they made it feel harsh, and I’m running about 10psi less than the recommended settings and I’m also 75kg fully kitted. How your running up to 110psi I have no idea 🤷🏼‍♂️ The static sag setting must be way off.

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

Like you said. Waste of time lol

kashima is marketing hype imo

@uwu_demon5494

3 жыл бұрын

fax, performace elite is just as good, looks better imo, and is cheaper. From what’ve heard, kashima reduces friction by less then 1% so basicly you cant notice it, no matter how good you are.

@gpearce11

3 жыл бұрын

But it does look way nicer, so there's that. In all seriousness, the best explanation I've heard is that Factory and Performance Elite feel identical when new/freshly serviced, but Kashima feels better/smoother for longer between servicing, theoretically allowing you to go a little longer between services. Is that enough to warrant the price difference? Not really, but if you want to blow that extra money, at least you're technically getting something back for it.

@emmetfoster7430

3 жыл бұрын

@@gpearce11 for me they look like rusty stantions

I love rockshox!!, La mejor! 🙌 👍🏻 💕

I liked this review, but there was a lot of redundant information. The volume of fluid required for servicing is not really relevant to most people.

I like to think I ride pretty hard, but the 38 just wasn’t much better than my already excellent 36. Not worth the upgrade unless your running at least 180mm travel or you weight much more than my 175lbs. Looks cool though.

@jorisressing3626

3 жыл бұрын

The 38 is not really about stiffness but more about the different airspring it allows

@mikes.8305

3 жыл бұрын

@@jorisressing3626 lol you missed the entire marketing campaign behind the 38. I’m telling you dampening and air spring feel very similar in my experience, and while I can’t usually ride a 34 because of flex, I have never thought about a 36 being to flexible.

@jorisressing3626

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikes.8305 well on one side you could just believe marketing crap or you could look at what actually makes a difference which is the revised air spring which is better for lighter riders (funnily enough) and the revisions to the grip 2 damper (not exclusive to the 38 though).

@mikes.8305

3 жыл бұрын

@@jorisressing3626 haha so true! I’m just saying after running both for a few months back to back the dampening felt very similar between the “new” 36 and the 38. The air pressures were different, but they felt about the same riding. All I know if for me I prefer to save weight with the 36 or swap out the air spring for a “smash pot”

Interesting that the Fox is lacking mid support, when all of the rest of its offerings are known for superior mid support!

at this point in time i genuinely feel only pros would notice the differnence between both forks there are both so good

@gpearce11

3 жыл бұрын

I think you're correct, and that's why I prefer the Zeb. Many reviews I've seen/read give the 38 the tiniest edge in overall performance once set up properly, but for 99% of riders the simpler and faster set-up, not to mention lower weight and price, are more important that an almost unnoticeable performance difference.

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

I would trust the rockshox more for reliability and consistency. The Fox is great if you like playing with adjustments and sending it away for repairs. ive never had a Fox fork or shock that wasn't a pain in my ass

@basicmtber3840

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dude-Smellmyhelmet with the fox do you have to always send it away

@Dude-Smellmyhelmet

3 жыл бұрын

@@basicmtber3840 Everything can be done at home but you'd need to locate a bunch of weird tools and of course all the parts and lubes

@basicmtber3840

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dude-Smellmyhelmet oh right yeah with the rockshox i believe you only need the specific tool for that top cap thing

I agree 🔥

I’m surprised you need 12psi more than recommended on the 38. I need 12psi less than recommended to get to barely 10% sag.

@stephanepianigiani5422

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone else had that experience?

@tar2trail448

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely don't feel like my 38 rides low in the travel, as was mentioned. The fork sits up so much so that I had to reduce the travel on mine. I normally overfork my bikes due to the riding I do.

@BurnsRubber

3 жыл бұрын

Yes was surprised to hear that. Was wondering if there was something wrong with his fork? I ride the new 36. I run it well below recommended pressure (75 vs 82psi) and doesn’t ride low especially with a little LSC.

@stephanepianigiani5422

3 жыл бұрын

He was testing in Chambery which is super steep terrain and could account for a little higher pressure, but happy to hear I am not the only one..

@lornz9495

3 жыл бұрын

I also ride it with less pressure than recommended. It now has 30% sag and if i hit big jumps etc. there is still 15mm travel left

"Bolt on fender is Available" I mean... Maybe "available" isn't the best word for that right about now...

The bolt on Fender is sano. .

hardcore test terrain, dorenaz!!

I'll take the RAW over the Nukeproof when it comes to the bikes. The forks are too much for me I think. I'm happy with a Selva Coil.

These forks be more than my bike

@ricardog4459

3 жыл бұрын

using it is what counts. i met a kid in mexico with a crappy bike just laughing at all foreigners who couldn't keep up with their 5k plus bikes (he was the guide by the way)