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I just picked up a 2020 XT250 off of KSL a week ago (I live in western Wyoming), just like you've mentioned doing in past videos! It's my first real motorcycle. About 4,000 miles on it. It was $3500, including a bunch of extras like Double Take mirrors, skid plate, LED headlight, hand guards, rear rack, bigger foot pegs, etc. I've ridden it a few times and am heading out into the desert tomorrow for my first long ride. I watched a bunch of your videos on it before buying. Let me take you out to lunch as a thank-you the next time I pass through St. George!

@precipiceofgrind

13 күн бұрын

Congrats on your XT! Sure thing, hit me up when you're in town!

It’s tough for me to look beyond the Japanese brands because they’re just too darn reliable.

I agree , over the years I have had a XT250 (1984) DR250 XT350 KLX 250,351 and now a DR650. Cheap to buy second hand and keep and for the way I ride work great.

I've owned (2) KTM 1290 super adventure's , KTM 690 Enduro and I just sold my Triumph 660 Tiger sport which was an amazing motorcycle . I just picked up a 800DE and honestly it feels good being back on a Suzuki

20 years riding experience with primarily the Japanese brands and I'd agree with just about everything you're saying. I also choose a 250 as my bike of choice for deep offroad riding even with a bit of highway/interstate inbetween cause it can go places a bigger bike wouldn't dream of and I can do it alone without worry, and I guess I'm capable of trading on road comfort for offroad performance where most probably wouldn't. You are right about the Euro bikes being lighter and higher horsepower, but pay it no mind, they all become scrap metal around the same time your Japanese bike is just breaking in. I will caution that some of the newer Japanese bikes from the previous 5 years or so haven't been as reliable as we expect them to be. I even recrntly saw an Africa Twin that couldn't idle properly from the factory. The big 4 are still on top, but there is certainly a downward trend going on across the big 4 unfortunately.

DR650 for the win!!! Great video comparing the big 4! Thank you.

Nice video. I took my DR on a 380 mile trip to have coffee out at my brothers place in the country today. It is 175 miles each way with a 30 mile detour at his end to get gas to come home. Non-stop each way cruising at about 65 or so, close to 6 hours total on the road. All that on the stock seat....

I've ridden the Gen 2 KLR throughout mountains all along the east coast and the carb has never given me a major issue. I've come to enjoy the ease of making minor adjustments and diagnosing issues that would be much more difficult to tackle with throttle mapping. However, if you don't ride the bike on a frequent bases there are definite advantages with fuel injection.

My first bike was a used 1974 Suzuki GT250 street bike I had just got my learners permit in 1977 I was 15 1/2 per the California DMV rules, I had been saving for a car working as a paperboy with the Orange County Register mowing lawns and selling flower on Friday night and weekends on local intersection. This bike was a trade in at my local Suzuki dealer. Paid a whole $600 for that beauty. Stuck with the Japanese brands till 2010, I was ready for some 1000 + mile trips with 99% street routes planned, that's when I purchased a used 2004 BMW R1150 GSA one owner low mile black with yellow seat came on the craigs list had to have it. I've had three total Beemers since they are amazing bikes IMHO. But I will always have a Japanese dual sport for my dirt trail riding pleasure.

@precipiceofgrind

11 күн бұрын

Awesome!

Iv had them all, also. DRZ, WRF, KDX, KLX {3, lol}, CRFX, CRFL. Whatever suited my riding style at current moment and location. Was in the desert for 8 years, loved it. Now back home North Coast Great Lakes...the only one I havent had yet is the KLR. Heading to get a '24 in that matte blue tomorrow. Kawi has always been my favorite and them offering $1k off right now was too much to pass. Long solo trips in the desert needed a lighter bike and made me a great enduro rider. But the millions of miles of logging roads here are calling my name. And its been since '16 since I did any ADV trips so time to start over.

Good comparison on the bikes. Makes sense wanting the smaller bike. My KLR fits my needs, I can hit the dirt, while still riding with friends when they want to cruise on the highway on their street bikes. Definitely would not single track it, not my skill set. I do see the need to have more than one to ride.

I personally feel that the dr650 and the xr 650 l are brothers in this class. With the XRL being the one suited to a bit more rough terrain because if its stupid amount of ground clerance. Thanks for your content.

Ive loved my CRF300l, my Tw200, my DR650 but let me tell you my new Husky 501s is crazy compared to the others. The power to weight and the performance is great. I would recommend keeping a Japanese bike but to get a Husky 501 as well!!!

Glad it’s (dr) working for you! Me, I’ve lost two 650 engines to internal destruction because of overheating. I won’t ride anything that isn’t water cooled …

I’ve been riding Japanese dual sports since 1977. There has been a lot of bikes. Not a single one has ever let me down. That’s kinda crazy if you think about it.

Great vid! I sure have a lot of fun on my Xt250 as well. I have the same gripes with my 500x that you mentioned with the KLR. Been toying with the idea of selling the Honda and buying a Dr650 but it is so hard to part with a good bike and the 500x definately has it's place. Keep the videos coming, really enjoy your content.

Im digging the Dualsport I have (CRF300LS). have way more fun and not on edge with it vs my larger adventure bike. Disclaimer. I did pump 3K into a brand new CRF to make it the way it is. but well worth it. (bigger tank, full RallyRaid suspension, bars ect...). may even sell my larger adventure bike as I ride the CRF for everything now..Unless im moto camping for 8+ days its the dual sport for me...

Wow, excellent timing! I just asked about which one you’d have if you could only keep one the other day. Really appreciate the detailed discussion here.

I have been a follower of your channel for a long time, and thanks to you, I fell in love with the XT250 and bought one a year and a half ago. I love how versatile and fun the XT250 is, but sometimes I wish it had a little more power so I would feel more comfortable riding it on the freeway and back country roads. Have you ever considered the DRZ400 since it technically has a better suspension than the DR650 out of the box? I like the DR650, but its easier to get a DRZ400 than a DR650 in my area. Regards,

@precipiceofgrind

14 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say no to a DRZ400! Appreciate you watching!!

@tomhengel7244

14 күн бұрын

I have the dr650 but when I was shopping I was after the drz400 all the research I did on it had me sold then I just couldn't pass up the price on my 650 and all the aftermarket that was all ready installed. I'd jump on the drz400 if you get a good deal.

Great video! Just looked at all your videos. I was looking for a xt250 vs crf300l comparison. I did not see it and wondering if you made one or not? Looking to pick up a smaller bike to add to my DR and Super Tenere. Thanks!

@precipiceofgrind

11 күн бұрын

Here, multiple parts on 300L vs Xt250: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ-a2bd8XdSpdJM.html

I would argue the only true euro dual sports are the husky 701/ktm 690. The smaller bikes are enduros, making them no frills, high strung race bikes. Not dual sports that are a compromise of on/off road ability.

@HakoPseudo

10 күн бұрын

Just curious what you would call the dr650 then?

Why 4 bikes???, love your channel, honesty always, thinking trading in my Africa twin for a t7 or klr650.

@precipiceofgrind

14 күн бұрын

Variety is the spice of life.

@silveriojohan

14 күн бұрын

@@precipiceofgrind My wife would kill me if I dare to get a 2nd bike🤣🤣🤣

@orionswitness

14 күн бұрын

58 year old owner of a Versys 650, just sold a Honda CRF 300 rally , as a kid rode Honda Z 50 , two YZ 80 motocross bikes , a Yamaha IT 175 , a Yamaha IT 200 , Yamaha TT 230 , then a 86 Yamaha FJ1200, none of the bikes left me stranded ever . The Japanese take pride in their reputation for reliability .

On another note...do you ever watch Missing 411...did you ever see strange goings on out in the desert in your travels??

@precipiceofgrind

8 күн бұрын

If you mean super natural, no...not yet. However, there is no shortage of strange people out there...

@SWATT101

7 күн бұрын

​@@precipiceofgrindThere everywhere lol

No question, Japanese are better designed and built. Try to name Japanese adv bikes with faults. The KLR had the doohickey fix problem but it wasn’t a showstopper. The very rare 3rd gear fail in the DR.