Foucault: Nietzsche, Genealogy, History

In his 1977 essay, “Nietzsche, Genealogy, History”, Michel Foucault criticizes the traditional historical method and makes an argument for why a ‘genealogical’ approach is important. But what is genealogy?
It’s a history of us. Of the attitudes and dispositions we embody today. The way we approach and do things. These things often seem like they don’t have a history, that they’re human nature. That they’re normal, eternal, unchangeable. Genealogy attempts to uncover how they’ve changed over time - how there are different ways of approaching them. It uncovers how they’re not the way they are because they’ve gradually improved; they’re not part of an inevitable linear progression through history. They’re contingent.
Genealogy often examines attitudes, beliefs, presuppositions. - Morality, discipline, sexuality. It addresses a traditional history that assumes simple movement forward over time. It draws out, uncovers, and critically examines the origins of a specific conception of what’s morally good, or the source of a particular way of disciplining societal criminality, or the genesis of attitudes about what it means to be a feminine woman.
Foucault is influenced by Nietzsche, the first person to show that morality - our ideas of what’s good and bad - has a history, has changed over time.
He is searching for the 'origins' of the genealogical method in Nietzsche.
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  • @ThenNow
    @ThenNow3 жыл бұрын

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  • @JS-dt1tn

    @JS-dt1tn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where can someone purchase this essay of Foucault's?

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Google it, it's about!

  • @solar0wind

    @solar0wind

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the first video I watched by you, and it's interesting, but PLEASE look up the pronunciation of foreign words. It takes you just 10 seconds with the help of the internet, but it will make a big difference. Your pronunciation was so distracting. At first, I didn't even understand what you were talking about. Mistakes distract from the message, and even if it's inevitable to make mistakes sometimes, some can be easily avoided. So no hate, but simply one thing you might want to improve😅 (And don't worry if you can't pronounce words perfectly even after practising, but if you get them right more or less, so they're understandable and it's clear that you tried, it's fine)

  • @discosteffn

    @discosteffn

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you need help in pronounciation (for german words) in the future: write me ;)

  • @ferdjanvanderpijl8495

    @ferdjanvanderpijl8495

    12 күн бұрын

    Can the transcript be moderated to have proper German or English term and names? Ty.

  • @madina1360
    @madina13603 жыл бұрын

    As an undergraduate English student, your content is not only deeply informative but interesting and engaging. I love the calmness in which you talk about these ideas, it's like reading a theoretical essay or book with perfect ease and understanding. As a result, I've just subscribed! Thank you for making such a brilliant video.

  • @OKNOWIMMAD12345678
    @OKNOWIMMAD123456783 жыл бұрын

    I can tell Foucault influenced you based on the organization of your bookshelf.

  • @FlosBlog

    @FlosBlog

    3 жыл бұрын

    How so?

  • @el6178

    @el6178

    3 жыл бұрын

    I m trying to see the content of the bookshelves in the back, the drawings, the strange mask on the left and the marble head. I wish he could put all favourite books and objects in a huge library and we can get a thorough look on each and every item. Great way to spend time if quarantine comes back..

  • @antonkarlsson818

    @antonkarlsson818

    3 жыл бұрын

    IEl tr All i can see is David Foster Wallaces Infinite Jest, that is interesting.

  • @pierrebeckmann4785

    @pierrebeckmann4785

    3 жыл бұрын

    very rhizomatic

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love the speculation here but most of the books here are actually my housemates (DFW is mine)

  • @GratefulDave93
    @GratefulDave933 жыл бұрын

    I think it is criminal how small your channel still is. These are some of the most impressive philosophical breakdowns I’ve ever heard/seen.

  • @hellucination9905

    @hellucination9905

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's an elite channel, yes.

  • @bergweg
    @bergweg3 жыл бұрын

    Entstehung - The first manifestation of whatever, genesis, ... Ursprung - the source/inception of something, of a process, etc... Herkunft - stuff like place of birth, culture enviroment of childhood years, etc...

  • @radioactivedetective6876

    @radioactivedetective6876

    3 жыл бұрын

    Firstly, thank you. Secondly, I think I can clearly distinguish Herkunft from the other two, but still a bit confused about the difference between Entstehung and Ursprung. For example, if I were to think of the Sarajevo incident as the Entstehung of World War I and the colonial rivalry between European powers as the Ursprung, am I using the use of these words correctly?

  • @bergweg

    @bergweg

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@radioactivedetective6876 Yep, i.e. the assasination set off (Entstehung) the military conflict but the reason(s)/cause(s) (Ursprung) which lead to the assasination was the rivalry

  • @ivanbenisscott
    @ivanbenisscott3 жыл бұрын

    The calming subtle music in the background are the best videos in my opinion. It gives the videos a beautiful edge

  • @blankname5177
    @blankname51772 жыл бұрын

    he is blessed with a god tier voice and or really good editing. man the narration is so calm and distinct.

  • @hishamgornass4577
    @hishamgornass45773 жыл бұрын

    You did a great job with modernism, talking about it's emergence, consequences and anatomy. It would be amazing if you did the same on postmodernism 😍. Anyways I really love your videos, never stop👊

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was always the intention. I've wanted to really dig into modernity to fully understand postmodernity. I don't think I'll get there for a while and it will look very different but it is definitely coming. I'm thinking of 'the children of postmodernity' as a starter, looking at postwar youth culture. I have some wild theories there

  • @hishamgornass4577

    @hishamgornass4577

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThenNow Post modernity as you already know is a really sophisticated subject, so it would be really difficult to have starting points for it anyway 🤣. But hey doesn't matter as long as it is cooking, best of luck .♥️

  • @Elfenohr
    @Elfenohr3 жыл бұрын

    some pointers to proper pronunciation because we germans feel very protective of our language ;) Ursprung -> OOHR-shproong Herkunft -> HAIR-koonft Entstehung -> ent-SHTAY-oong

  • @solar0wind

    @solar0wind

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I were to talk about words in another language, I would look the pronunciation up thoroughly. The way he butchers these words is unnerving and distracting. Mistakes distract from your message, so don't make mistakes. Something my dad was told while working for McKinsey. It's true.

  • @edwardbarlow1711
    @edwardbarlow17113 жыл бұрын

    Been watching the channel for a few years now, really glad you can move to full time - loving it

  • @suzx21
    @suzx213 жыл бұрын

    Even though u don't have a lot of subscribers like others do i wanna assure you that those who do follow you really love your content. Ur channel is very underrated and has helped me understand many concepts that i couldn't find a proper explanation elsewhere. Never stop making videos.🤩

  • @russellbradmore9983
    @russellbradmore99833 жыл бұрын

    This is why I keep coming back to your channel. Quality work!

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @Phi792
    @Phi7923 жыл бұрын

    I adore your content 😌 Thank you so much! As a philosophy student I get to learn so much about the different thinkers that existed in the past and your videos motivate me to pick up new books to read :D I wondered if it were possible to post a "recommended reading" list in the description? 🌸

  • @iShotUrBarbieDx
    @iShotUrBarbieDx3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, I had a hard time understanding the text on my own, even after re-reading it several times. Your video provided great insights

  • @benandrew9852
    @benandrew98523 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on your move to full time; your videos are among the best on KZread for a bizarrely wide array of topics.

  • @eeshaanshukla6673
    @eeshaanshukla66733 жыл бұрын

    An excellent analysis by a great channel. I love how you explained Nietzsche's influence on Foucault.

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @ivorydungeon909
    @ivorydungeon9093 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for addressing my favourite Foucault text - and thanks as well for promoting your newsletter!

  • @el6178
    @el61783 жыл бұрын

    Your video essays are always brilliant and by the way your new haircut looks amazing.

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was growth from the last few months - I've just had it chopped off :S

  • @el6178

    @el6178

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThenNow It's strange how these small changes in appearance, signify the passage of time for the viewers😶

  • @TrippingFighter
    @TrippingFighter3 жыл бұрын

    Great work as always

  • @MattStranberg
    @MattStranberg3 жыл бұрын

    You're amazing man, I love your stuff and share it with everyone I know!

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Really appreciate that

  • @stino9635
    @stino96353 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos man

  • @ThoughtsonThinking
    @ThoughtsonThinking3 жыл бұрын

    Great videos as always! 😊

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😃

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated Жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis as usual.

  • @darkzubi
    @darkzubi3 жыл бұрын

    A thought provoking Analysis , Great Work :)

  • @himangshusarma7649
    @himangshusarma76493 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this!

  • @bob321493
    @bob3214933 жыл бұрын

    Actually prior to Nietzsche, Max Stirner questions and gives examples of morality’s shape shifting. It’s actually hotly debated whether or not Nietzsche read and got his ideas from Max Stirner (aka Johan Kaspar Schmidt)

  • @miat9039

    @miat9039

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait thats stirner real name?

  • @bob321493

    @bob321493

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@miat9039 yup

  • @miat9039

    @miat9039

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bob321493 thats kind of normal considiring who stirner is hahahababab

  • @bob321493

    @bob321493

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@miat9039 basically John Smith

  • @miat9039

    @miat9039

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bob321493 that his name in english right

  • @Aasha383
    @Aasha3839 ай бұрын

    I was always a very intellectually smart individual but suffered from extreme mental health issues due to trauma and was unable to finish high school, that is what has pushed me to learn and study the brain, trauma, neurology and genealogy along with psychology. I'm 20 and start my first year of university next year! It took a lot of self work to become a better person myself and understand my brain before i could go onto helping another

  • @Theorychad99
    @Theorychad993 жыл бұрын

    These cool animations must take a lot of work! Do you use any motion presets? Or manually do it via key frames ?

  • @shahehuban
    @shahehuban3 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for this, excellent

  • @nicholascarroll7966
    @nicholascarroll79662 жыл бұрын

    this is the best explanation of Foucault’s method I have ever come across

  • @irshapshakirhussain1932
    @irshapshakirhussain19323 жыл бұрын

    Please do add subtitles for your lectures ❤

  • @sk8shred
    @sk8shred3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on Richard Rorty? :)

  • @seanballinger9539
    @seanballinger95393 жыл бұрын

    I am so impressed with you.

  • @masudalom8626
    @masudalom86263 жыл бұрын

    Hi, fantastic and very informative video, thank you for making it. May I ask for the references in relation to the points and phrases of Foucault you have addressed, specially the ones from 9:40 onwards...?

  • @Lokarter
    @Lokarter3 жыл бұрын

    Book tour please! I'm curious in your book collections. :)

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually, many of them are my housemates! But, yes, one day soon!

  • @Manzoorahmadtantray
    @Manzoorahmadtantray Жыл бұрын

    Add a video on his concept of counter-memory

  • @TealiciousTea7
    @TealiciousTea73 жыл бұрын

    Now I want to read the essay again, and Nietzsche's genealogy of morality. So much for my intentions to read Gramsci. 😛

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a quick read!

  • @RAMULUS31
    @RAMULUS313 жыл бұрын

    Maybe this is a bit of a weird suggestion, but i would actually quite like it if your camera was slightly further away, so that we could get the full scope of your gesticulations! Keep up the great work

  • @bearclaw007

    @bearclaw007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does this qualify as a critical analysis?

  • @RAMULUS31

    @RAMULUS31

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bearclaw007 semiotic theory I suppose

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, thanks. I do flail a lot. I'll give it a try!

  • @carlos3216100
    @carlos32161003 жыл бұрын

    you're a legend

  • @jrgjdjdj968
    @jrgjdjdj9683 жыл бұрын

    I came here as fast as I could

  • @pierrebeckmann4785
    @pierrebeckmann47853 жыл бұрын

    Great work! Maybe you could learn some of the pronunciations of the german words you are using. :) Keep up the good content !

  • @eeshaanshukla6673
    @eeshaanshukla66733 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video!

  • @theunisholthuis4212
    @theunisholthuis42123 жыл бұрын

    I heavily disagree with many of the points raised by Nietzsche and Foucault, but I think this video really helped me better understand them. Thanks for the quality content!

  • @Petran892

    @Petran892

    8 ай бұрын

    It didn't go at all into the points raised by Nietzsche.

  • @rob8167
    @rob81673 жыл бұрын

    Heya I love the way you define genealogy and I'd like to reference you in an essay; how should I reference you?

  • @anweshakar146

    @anweshakar146

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered how to cite video sources 😭

  • @romasaaslam88
    @romasaaslam883 жыл бұрын

    Can you please add english subs in the video?

  • @henryberrylowry9512
    @henryberrylowry9512 Жыл бұрын

    Nietzsche definitely wasn't the first person to show morality has a history or that what we view as good or bad changes over time. Hegel did that much more comprehensively and, more importantly, Marx grounded this in an objective analysis of economic social relations.

  • @johnstewart7025

    @johnstewart7025

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, isn't this what Dostoevski was criticizing in the "Underground Man"? He was saying that all attempts at building Utopia from scratch were bound to fail because they ignore human nature. The historicists and Darwin would all claim that there is no human nature -- that what we may call human nature has evolved. But, Foucault, at least, was pessimistic about freeing ourselves from Utopianism in modern life or progress. Seems like he would imagine liberation to be the opposite of progress.

  • @SurjeethRahulji

    @SurjeethRahulji

    10 ай бұрын

    Wanted to point out this exact same thing. Just post modernist drivel.

  • @Petran892

    @Petran892

    8 ай бұрын

    Nietzsche's point is to show the problems of European morality, how this morality came to be, where it will logically lead us, and give a framework for how to overcome it. I think what differentiated him from all the other philosophers is his profound understanding of human psychology.

  • @ivanbenisscott
    @ivanbenisscott3 жыл бұрын

    Do capitalism, socialism and democracy (schumpeter) next !!!!

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem53763 жыл бұрын

    Finally I think I understand what Genealogy means.

  • @hugocosta96
    @hugocosta962 жыл бұрын

    actually, the English translation is from 1977, but the essay was originally published in 1971.

  • @OniDasAlagoas
    @OniDasAlagoas3 жыл бұрын

    Didn't the annales express those concerns way before foucault?

  • @battleelf6523
    @battleelf65233 жыл бұрын

    COOL NACHO LIBRE MASK

  • @ivanbenisscott
    @ivanbenisscott3 жыл бұрын

    Please can you do ROBERT NOZICK next please !?

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're in luck!

  • @ivanbenisscott

    @ivanbenisscott

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then & Now - get in!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ivanbenisscott

    @ivanbenisscott

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then & Now - you may say in your video, but if not, what’s your personal opinion on nozick’s conclusions and why would you say his conclusions aren’t justified?

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ivanbenisscott Was that intentionally meant to be comical because I misread over text? Made me laugh either way. Yes, I think you can predict what I think, although I've tried to be fair in the video. I'll save critique for another video (Nozick vs Rawls). I've made a passing comment on my website/in my newsletter today

  • @indiealtmusic
    @indiealtmusic2 жыл бұрын

    i guess it makes it easier to pronounce if you imagine ursprung written as "oorsproong"

  • @gonzogil123
    @gonzogil1233 жыл бұрын

    To be honest. From all the introductions that I have seen, and some of the reigning byproducts of their theories, I do have to say that "text" has become a modality of regimentation. The same goes for "priviledge" instead of being able to detect exploitation. Much, if not all, of academia´s regulating modality of addressing books, pages, phonemes, or syllables, and letters are Derridean. It is a regimenting unaccouted disciplinary modality of address. Once again their roots are openly and firmly on the side of enemies of humanity: Nietzsche, and Heidegger. As detailed out in the UN human rights. Modalities of violence people cannot be exposed to.

  • @eleftheriosepikuridis9110
    @eleftheriosepikuridis91103 жыл бұрын

    Am loving this, comment for Algorithm

  • @YousifA125
    @YousifA1252 жыл бұрын

    It's good but need more examples when you talk please!!

  • @emil_rainbow
    @emil_rainbow3 жыл бұрын

    Precient given this epoch’s cling to hierarchy as our ecology cascades into negative feedback.

  • @superlative_custard
    @superlative_custard3 жыл бұрын

    You often misread the text you have chosen to put on the screen.

  • @shodanxx
    @shodanxx2 жыл бұрын

    This video feels like going to a distant city, but on foot rather than using my car (or at least bike !)

  • @TJ_USA
    @TJ_USA3 жыл бұрын

    I think it was published in 1971.

  • @mickeypang
    @mickeypang3 жыл бұрын

    The last quarter of this thoughtful piece seems to speak on a cousin of gonzo journalism, perhaps a gonzo philosophy; Raul Duke style, "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro," especially in terms of "Historical Sense". More specifically the turn (Hunter) Thompson made in his style of reporting, at a time when objective journalism was paramount.( Which Genealogy may warn against a 1-to-1 contextual exchange; equating today's coined term: "fake news", would be fallacious). Thompson choose an ultimately more honest position in admitting our inescapable position; eternally within platos shadowy cave, is the only true position, less we lie to ourselves and pretend we can directly see the light. Which is why his 8+ paragraph article on the Kentucky derby, spending 7/8ths of the article capturing the wretched atmosphere of debauchery and degeneracy and only mentioning the compitetion results in the last paragraph. This not only captivates the audience but reveals an honest brutality never before acknowleded, as it may have sacrificed the prestige, that such gentlemanly, objective journalists touted until Dr.Gonzo slipped that tab of "bable" under our tongues. Cheers!

  • @_dharma_
    @_dharma_3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it just such an untethering from our past that defines the historical sense of those born into modernity? Deep time to men of today is seen to be strewn with the ruins of contingency and the vagaries of time justifying much of our monkeying around in the moment to moment in habitual cycles of the fruits that are about to fall and that which have fallen. “Watch them clamber, these swift monkeys! They clamber over one another and thus drag one another into the mud and the depth. They all want to get to the throne: that is their madness - as if happiness sat on the throne. Often, mud sits on the throne - and often the throne also on mud. Mad they all appear to me, clambering monkeys and overardent. Foul smells their idol, the cold monster: foul, they smell to me altogether, these idolators.” The modern man ,or the Faustian man as Oswald Spengler might call it, and his limitless sense of being, his unrestrained thirst for knowledge, and his constant confrontation with the Infinite much that rests upon this trajectory from the Origin. Wouldn't discarding the veil of sacredness that cloaks our Origin rob our civilization that primordially rests upon our historical sense more so than others of this very historical impulse leaving behind a mere monkey-shaped vacuum. "We wished to awaken the feeling of man’s sovereignty by showing his divine birth: this path is now forbidden, since a monkey stands at the entrance." Upon this sterilized firmament of our past then arises new modalities of historicity beyond our comprehensibility that of the machinic nature foreshortening our understanding of not only ourselves but the world around us into the coldness of infinity.

  • @adamisforgiants6762
    @adamisforgiants67623 жыл бұрын

    I really think a good follow up video would be one on Deleuze. There are multiple interpretations of "Multiplicity", but it seems related to the concept of origins. I also think about Manuel De Landa, who took Deleuze and the historian Braude and used their thought to take history in Systems Thinking direction.

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love De Landa. Thinking of returning to him soon

  • @Axis_Mundi_Design

    @Axis_Mundi_Design

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then & Now 👍🏻

  • @rimadichman7215
    @rimadichman72153 жыл бұрын

    uhrsprung is pronounced u as in st(u)pid but slow hr ar as in a(r)my but slow s as in (sh)ake p as in (p)ain r as in d(r)um u as in m(o)m but scottish ng as in ri(ng)

  • @rimadichman7215

    @rimadichman7215

    3 жыл бұрын

    i wonder how anyone pronounced it after this explanation

  • @rimadichman7215

    @rimadichman7215

    3 жыл бұрын

    in general stretch your vowels more when speaking german

  • @alexanderleuchte5132

    @alexanderleuchte5132

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's "Ursprung" though ;) "Ur-" means "ancient" or "origin" , "Uhr" is "clock"

  • @growingmelancholy8374
    @growingmelancholy83743 жыл бұрын

    Have you thought about doing a video about Merleau-Ponty? Especially since you've done videos where you discuss the body in some way. I can see you are influenced by Foucault, but I think any modern feminist reading on the body can quickly dispel your fancy for Foucault when it comes to talking about "the body." Take Butler's "Foucault and the Paradox of Bodily Inscriptions," for example.

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haven't read, will take a look. Thanks. Merleau-Ponty at some point, yes.

  • @billthompson7072
    @billthompson7072 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks - metaphenominalism 😊

  • @julianblake8385
    @julianblake83853 жыл бұрын

    You usually talk about the philosophers that I find to have the lowest quality in their ideas, and the highest level of quackery, but the quality of your videos and the understanding of the materials (although biased by your evident admiration and liking of the authors) is something to behold. Great content. A little bit more of critical thinking on the ideas you explain (as on the flaws and limitations of the ideas of these authors) would make this channel even greater. Thanks for your content!

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love comments like this - criticial but respectful, thanks! Who would you like to see on the channel?

  • @julianblake8385

    @julianblake8385

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThenNow Thank you for your reply. It would be amazing if you could talk about the thinkers of the analytic philosophy branch, like Russell, but specially Karl Popper and the ones after him.

  • @hellucination9905

    @hellucination9905

    3 жыл бұрын

    The "analytics" are a degenerative phase of modern scientistic thought. Eric Voeglin speaks of PNEUMAPATHOLOGY. They will never grasp the essence of thinking: to get and live in the existential space of METAXY.

  • @JohnSmith-vd6fc
    @JohnSmith-vd6fc3 жыл бұрын

    So, relativism?

  • @hellucination9905

    @hellucination9905

    3 жыл бұрын

    Historical embedded contextualism

  • @ceesjanmol
    @ceesjanmol2 жыл бұрын

    "Entste-hung"? I get that, like many of your compatriots, you are really attached to manliness and everything related to it. But maybe issuing Google translate occasionally to listen to pronounciation may not be a bad idea? It's "ent-ste-hung". [Ant-stay-hoong]. I guess your use of language is greatly enscribed in your body. Even a language not your own.

  • @tigerslick1111
    @tigerslick11113 жыл бұрын

    How do you feel about Foucault endorsing having sex with children and in fact stating that not letting kids have sex with adults is child abuse?

  • @ivorydungeon909

    @ivorydungeon909

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, an incitement to discourse... congratulations on discovering Foucault's Deepest Truth

  • @lizzie7138

    @lizzie7138

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alan Paul what if free speech takes away the rights of those who cannot defend themselves, such as children?

  • @radioactivedetective6876

    @radioactivedetective6876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@susanp3608 I think yes, it can, because everyone is never equally free, nor equally capable of speech/self expression. Self expression (through speech, or otherwise) is an act of assertion, it requires power. The debate about free speech and the right to expressing different opinions though disagreeable is based on the hypothesis that all concerned exist on an equal pedestal, which is not always the case. Hence free speech in itself does not guarantee everyone's voice will be heard, resulting in the silences of the marginalised and vulnerable.

  • @radioactivedetective6876

    @radioactivedetective6876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@susanp3608 You misunderstand me, I am not talking about taking away free speech at all. I am trying to point out that 'free speech' is not an absolute objective terms that applies universally to everyone in the same way in the world as is. Also trying to point out that free speech and having a voice that is heard are different things. Your free speech won't harm anyone. Not talking about you as an individual, I was talking more in terms of reactionary politics. You condoning child sexual abuse may not lead laws to change, but someone or groups condoning white supremacy, transphobia, mysogyny can actually cause real world consequences, especially if they are exercising that free speech from a public pulpit, because they have a louder "voice" which influences large masses. Again, not saying free speech should be curtailed, just pointing out how effectiveness of free speech (being heard) is linked to power.

  • @robertgould1345

    @robertgould1345

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did Foucault say that it's child abuse not to let children have sex with adults? I know that many in 70s France wished the age of consent to be reduced as part of a reform of old French laws, and for child sexual abuse to be criminalised in a different way. I think some countries look at age difference and other factors instead of a sweeping generalisation.

  • @damianbylightning6823
    @damianbylightning68232 жыл бұрын

    MF was a good writer - but mostly an empty shell. He's bits of Nietzsche et al and a chunk Hobbes - combined to rescue something from the corpse of Marxism. However, he does write well at times. I suppose that sums up the inanity of the postwar left.

  • @FlosBlog
    @FlosBlog3 жыл бұрын

    Boy your german is bad. You know that you can just throw it into google translate, dont you?

  • @ThenNow

    @ThenNow

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ja

  • @radioactivedetective6876

    @radioactivedetective6876

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThenNow :-) Touche ;-))

  • @robertgould1345

    @robertgould1345

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I think it's time for me to criticise Germans trying to pronounce Hampshire and Lincolnshire.