Mbeki is giving signs to voters, vote out ANC or Perish

@zibusisoshembe216

6 ай бұрын

Misleading statement.

@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb

6 ай бұрын

It's astounding you don't know what the Harvard study is, that being said if listen to your buddy 😂. 2024 will start on flames if another black libtard takes power, the countries will secured and you will starve

@stanleynkosikamthembu168

6 ай бұрын

How do you divorce Mbeki from the ANC along with the mess he, Mbeki created.

Mbeki is trying to warn us that if we continue to vote for Anc, we will still gonna suffer

@OnGod4life774

6 ай бұрын

💯💯

@dumisanibhengu599

6 ай бұрын

Spot on...

@sunflower381

6 ай бұрын

Always wondered why we need protection from ourselves. This is very sad.

@user-uc1lf6wo8i

6 ай бұрын

In the omornigo. Moroni.

A country which owes its primary existence and survival to the revenue derived from some of its citizenry and a handful of private enterprises is on life support .

BEE and cader employment the biggest threat to nasional security

@SupremeBros2012

6 ай бұрын

No it’s the biggest thread to YOUR security

@martinvanvuuren

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@martinvanvuuren

6 ай бұрын

My salvation don't ly with this government, my security don't ly with this government, it is with the coming ruler over darkness the One and only Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

@SA_PASF

6 ай бұрын

​@martinvanvuuren a white man responsible for murder and rape of black people during apartheid is quoting Jesus Christ

@stlouisix3

6 ай бұрын

​@@martinvanvuurenconvert to Catholicism.

Bottom line we are a failing state with a failing leadership and corrupt Cadre government.....definition of African economic success

@kevinrtres

6 ай бұрын

We already have a failed State - it's only the hard-working citizens that either cannot or will not leave that is holding things together. Notice how efficient SARS is at extracting taxes from the slaves so that the grand masters can slurp it up at the trough? A State has failed when citizens pay tax and then pay private security companies to guard them. The State has failed when the only proper schooling is at private schools or at home whilst you're still paying higher taxes. A state has failed when the citizens start a collective to fix potholes - which the State is not, while paying even higher taxes. A state has failed when citizens have to provide their own water and electricity whilst paying an up-front set fee for non-delivery of those vital commodities. A state has failed when the citizens have to go to private hospitals and pay for private health care ( no I'm totally against the NHI rubbish ) whilst the government elites will not under any circumstances go to or send any of their relatives to any government hospital to save their own lives. Those are the signs - and they are right here with us in SA.

@peterStaffen

6 ай бұрын

according to ANC therte is no cadre employment

@kevinrtres

6 ай бұрын

@@peterStaffen When the ANC makes statements one has to use a microscope to find the truth....

Some people don't like the truth

We were okay until Zuma came along. Listening to the last budget speech the country is in debt and going nowhere. Imagine, once the largest gold producer , 5th largest sugar producer, agricultural powerhouse now a failing economy. You couldn't make it up. The ANC is a dying animal. Let's kick it out!

@latesttrends9942

6 ай бұрын

But you failed to mention the current Administration that is failing at every turn and angle as compared to Zuma. Zuma has never taken such loans as compared to Cyril. Non of the ANC comrades are my favorites just incase you think i'm their sypathisers.

@cassyvorster466

6 ай бұрын

@@latesttrends9942 0. Maybe we loan so much coz Zuma stole so much ?

@shanaazcloete8531

6 ай бұрын

@@latesttrends9942 Zuma destroyed South Africa and all its systems for self enrichment and Cyril Ramaphosa does not care to change anything.

@jaycou7126

6 ай бұрын

​@@latesttrends9942He didnt have to. The ANC in its entirety has no real plan or will to get this country back up and running. They must go, not fit for purpose.

@thabodlamini9306

6 ай бұрын

Corruption was there before Zuma, maybe we can say it rampant during his Presidency. It has worsened under Ramaphosa Presidency, actual the man has no clue what he is doing🤦🏿‍♂️🙆🏿‍♂️

Mbeki is a major cause of the pervasive problems we are entangled with that he now seeks to cleanse himself off.

@thrushenmari8601

6 ай бұрын

I infinitely agree. The power, water, sewage infrastructe and infant economies where meant to be built under MAndela and himself but they paid down the debt too agressively leaving us (the now generation but the then future generation) in the dwang, having no faith in us but faith in the powerful taking. Hence its a tata economy take for the health of the self economy.

@paulpieterse5052

6 ай бұрын

Beautifully articulated 💯

@stanleynkosikamthembu168

6 ай бұрын

Be cognizant too of the corruption that seeped in during their time, diverting resources from where they were needed to drive developmental initiatives, for sustained prosperity. @@thrushenmari8601

@andileproud7352

6 ай бұрын

I really think it's time we as South Africans to accept that' South Africa was not ruined by certain individuals but the ANC

@stanleynkosikamthembu168

6 ай бұрын

And yet still we cannot divorce one from the other. A powerful leader influences a lot even within the operative "collective leadership ethos" of the ANC.@@andileproud7352

Mbeki now struts around as if he is the saviour of SA meantime it ALL Started with HIM-and suddenly He and our so-called media forgot about Sarafina, the Arms Deal etc, etc,

@thembimaseko9600

7 ай бұрын

Open the borders praise our african brothers even gave them jobs,doctors,lectures pushing whites and Indians away.

@karldrogo9765

7 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly SA was growing at an annual growth rate of 5%..we had the DSO (scorpions), an intelligence that works, a primary surplus, debt to GDP of less than 40%..don't cherry pick the worst facts and turnaround and tell the masses at least the apartheid was better but it committed crimes against humanity..Mbeki was the peak of SA presidency

@aykay9328

6 ай бұрын

YOU ARE FORGETTING ONE CRUCIAL YOUR NP GAD LOOTED GOVERNMENT COFFERS LEAVING DEBT, ANC took over a banktrupt state, he turned it around and made surplus of the money, and at least he was fighting corruption that NP failed to do with their own

@sonwabosomhlaba7577

6 ай бұрын

That's correct, the GDP growth was 5%

@Greeny_isthegoat

6 ай бұрын

​@@karldrogo9765our economy was strong

this is not SA but rather the ANC ... the patriots of this country can turn this mire around in 3 years Into a TOP10 GLOBAL SUPERPOWER , if and only if we have a young vibrant new government ...

@tekken9476

6 ай бұрын

Building a prosperous economy is not easy look what 29 years of ANC government have achieved... Ziltch

@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964

6 ай бұрын

Patriots of SA aka DA. DA must first turnaround places like Nyanga, Khayelitsha, Capeflats etc before it can bite a bigger piece

@tb100

6 ай бұрын

Phew, you're asking for too much. We have fallen too far to become a Top-10 country in 3 years. But with the right government, leaders and morals, we can reverse this death-spiral of decay and decline under the ANC. It also starts with the small things that all of us need to do; like stopping at red traffic lights (in other words respecting the laws), not littering, not stealing from employers, not cheating with exams (in other words integrity). If we can't even do those basic things, we have no chance of even getting back to number 100 in the world.

@paulpieterse5052

6 ай бұрын

@@tekken9476NOT easy for the ANC no…but for the REAL South Africa we can do this. But the ANC can not be part of the solution. Their 27year track record speaks for itself!

@joseromeudeabreu9999

6 ай бұрын

Dream on. 🇿🇦🇷🇺🇦🇪🇵🇹

Keep talking, Former President Mbeki, we hear you.... We understand your message

We gave full trust in you a very articulated informative gentleman you are all parties should be learning from you your

Very satisfying to here our former president being honest. Very inspiring.

I wish you can come back torescue this country . we need people of southAfrica we need you

He even speaks well, unlike cyril.

I remember some 8 years ago when South Africa were warned about the approaching ISIS ( or their offspring ) threat in Mozambique - and they preferred to call it an internal squabble to be settled internally. Now the full-grown monster is sweeping its tail and arrogantly blowing its trumpet and all and sunder are fleeing in fear. Too late when the enemy has partly arisen from home-grown talent - with the ANC actively supporting it!!!

Easy to stand on the side and critisize, you played a huge part in crippling the economy. you and your cadres

If the "population" dislikes the direction the country is heading, perhaps the "population" should vote for a party that has repeatedly demonstrated that it is capable of managing its jurisdictions properly with balance sheets in the black, not red. There's only one party doing that at the moment. The "population" however, prefers to fear a return of apartheid and prefers to dislike those whom they assume are associated with that former era - so they will NOT vote for that party - preferring instead to rather see a scorched earth rather than a reasoned return to sanity.

Please don't let go hold on to the rope ,to safe all South African people 🙏 😢 ❤️

Every Kingdom divided against itself are brought to desolation and every house divided against itself will not stand. One Earth one humanity. #SpreadLove #Nationalism #Patriotism #Alllivesmatter.💫🙏💜

@RatieM64

6 ай бұрын

Well said...our divisions as a country are glaring. A continuation in the finger pointing across racial lines will take us nowhere. What we must all remember is that both the public sector and the private sector have the responsibility to develop the country.

It’s the African way

Mbeki was one of our best leaders.He has a masters in economics and always diplomatic.Real sorry he could not be longer in power .Why would you ever have voted him out ? Think he stood in the way of many people for the benefit of South Africa

@aykay9328

6 ай бұрын

He was fighting corruption only to realize that corruption is a person in the name of cadres, including Julius Male a let's not forget his corrupt character

@Gen_X

6 ай бұрын

He stood in the way of vultures feeding in frenzy at the trough

@alfredmamba

6 ай бұрын

And they hated him for it.

@blackmoney3333

6 ай бұрын

You don't know what u talking about, help him with his coke addiction then ul get the truth

@johnsandland8333

6 ай бұрын

Yes by not solving the Zimbabwean problem he opened the doors for millions of illegals to flock into SA to commit crime fill up hospitals and steal jobs.Great president

Same way with Zimbabwe Since you support Zanu Pf

I don't know what people wants from this man. His always been honest about the plight of this country.

Mbkei PLEASE come back to save everyone PLEASE 🙏 😢

There is a sincere hope that the ANC will accept responsibility for the state of the economy and country as a whole after 3 decades of power, which will be agood starting point to rebuild again because all the blaming can stop there.

We admire your presence in president always thought of you as the second Nelson Mandela ❤️ 💜 ♥️

He was the last SA leader of some integrity. After him the thieves and mafia took over.

@StudiousCattery

5 ай бұрын

He was a thief just like the rest of them. Mandela seems to have been the only one with integrity, but he was useless as a president, making promises that were impossible to deliver.

If this year can end while those guys who are serving life sentence before 2004 are still in prison, then families should not vote for ANC and the guys in prison should no longer vote for ANC! There are people who were sentenced to life imprisonment before 2004 October who are still rotting in prison whereas they are suppose to be out already! It look like its only those who are affiliated and politically connected who are out on parole. There are guys who want to assist to canvas and mobilize people to vote for ANC who are still in prison serving life and were suppose to be out.

Atleast think of the people 🙏 of South Africa 🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️

Our thoughts of Nelson Mandela is still fresh ,after we learning so much corruption corruption in Anc ,Sage the country Mbkei

Black management and leadership

Mbeki, who led the party from 1997 to 2007, said the government seemed to have no plan to address these problems, warning that rising poverty and hardship, poor governance, and mounting lawlessness could see South Africa erupt into its own version of the “Arab Spring”.

@janventer7942

6 ай бұрын

The Arab spring had nothing to do with what you claim.

@spacemuis

6 ай бұрын

@@janventer7942 i claim nothing...i cut and paste what Mbeki said was.gonna happen in SA, well now that WW3 has started its gonna happen world wide....

Without you there's 💔 no future pleased safe us THE RISE OF NELSON MANDELA COME BACK WE PLEADING YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY AND SUPPORT FOR THE FUTURE OF SOUTH AFRICA WE WILL ALL BE WITH YOU ,PLEASE ❤😢COME BACKWE NEED YOU OUR VOTES FOR YOU NO ONE ELSE❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Mr mbeki.was very nice president we really miss him.im form Bangladeshi but that Time we Don't fell im form others County we pay tax. But now the Don't looking after my people this County but we pay million tax this County but we sleep without power

Mr Mbeki, the best president in South Africa’s history. A man of integrity.

@craigporter8844

6 ай бұрын

He ignored HIV/AIDS and is responsible for millions of deaths.

@jothammakwelo7960

6 ай бұрын

I wish he was an honest man. Sadly he is corrupt also.

@loyisomalobola687

6 ай бұрын

On what are you basing that allegation?

Blessings come in a certain way , Indicated towards those who calibrate their under standing in better ways than those believers in traditions and idolatry.

Great speech

The ANC mafia

👏👏👏

Your knowledge no parties have ,your thoughts no parties have, you are second Nelson Mandela fought for apartaid and the sovereignty of South Africa please help make South Africa 🙏 a better country ❤

If Mbeki joins the ACDP today they can win the ANC❤

They don't say that the ANC is capable of resolving the problems they have caused, they say South Africa is

This country had the potential to become Africa's version of Dubai, but instead, the people chose to vote based on emotions rather than logic, and now the people will endure the consequences for the next few generations. Very sad.

People lost hope in the Anc ,When you inpower all will be impressed by your experience with the same party going forward, like a ship wrecked you fixed it snd back on it's journey again an unbelievable experience ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

It always amzes me when individuals deliver some unpleasantries its always in a context that they blameless - then President tossed aside a submission regarding what has to be done henceforth over the next 10 years for Eskom to meet demand ??? He stood by support Mugabe as he through out the Whites, burned down the farms and today ? What has this blind duty to " Liberation movements " cost the SADC in human suffering and economic collapse

No s#%^& Sherlock. Your party did this. Failed state not failing. It has failed.

What is President Mbeki saying?

A man must answer to his bosses.

All the crap comments here here indicates that South Africa is really f.... d. You get the same crap in the USA. Too many armchair commentators. Sitting in front of their TV they know everything.. In the USA Trump was definitely the better man but the armchair critics crucify him all the time. Here in South Africa Mbeki was definitely the best post Apartheid president but the armchair critics don't think so. Mandela was more a grandpa figure bringing South Africa together but Mbeki was the business minded figure who kept the economic wheel turning. Then came Zuma who stopped the economic wheel from from turning and helped himself and his mates. I thought Ramaphosa would do better but he became a stooge for thugs like Gwede. I am still waiting for the name of the guy who told Ruyter 'we need to eat as well'. Most likely Gwede in an expensive champagne filled mind.

This can be the dubai of africa without anc

Tbos my President

Shame on SA‼️

Mbeki said, citing the trigger that first set off riots in Tunisia, an attack on a street vendor by police. “You can’t have so many people unemployed, so many people poor,” he said. “One day it’s going to explode.”

We cannot have a nation of dependants for freedom is independence.

@moniquedefranca5759

6 ай бұрын

Most dont even understand what you are saying.Follow Gift of thruth Southren Africa if you want to be totally free from the state.

You giving South African people a serious warning which lies in thier voting same mistakes, same no confidence don't complain 😢

Well Done you got independence and freedom , awesome outcome.

@ElectrostatiCrow

6 ай бұрын

Freedom above security. Screw you if you think we want to be oppressed again.

@lebohangmohapi8605

6 ай бұрын

Would you rather they were not gotten then?

@ElectrostatiCrow

6 ай бұрын

@@lebohangmohapi8605 They guy hs a troll. It is better to just leave him to his basement dwelling.

The ANC ignored JIPSA and ASGISA during the Zuma era which was meant to encourage beneficiation of our resources and export them as finished products or partly processed to promote job creation. It is a pity , now, those contracts lapsed. Such stupid factionalism to promote narrow interests. They should have never ignored that part of his legacy

I can not say this is not true because it might be solution to what we are faced as the South African youth.

At least he can try read whatever someone wrote for him properly ..And ....Those negative issues ?? What part of his leadership contributed to that ..?

Both of these problems are a result of Mbeki's own policy choices that promoted privatisation. Comrade Mbekis Thatcherite policies had the same impact in the UK. The civil service needs to be rebuilt and outsourcing needs to end. >>> We found two broad classes of problems that undermine inclusive growth in the Rainbow Nation: collapsing state capacity and spatial exclusion.

Worst thing that ever happened here was Zuma replacing him! And for what?

My former Pre.please use your ideology to teach our leaders to make different in our lives so that our party can live in peace....without EFF on case. 🎉

He is the major reason why we find ourselves in this Eskom fiasco. The less he says - the better.

@ronalddippenaar2381

6 ай бұрын

He's trying to make himself relevant. He's speech is all over the show. Nothing cohesive.

@aykay9328

6 ай бұрын

It's 1r years off government and was there for 8 years, please don't be a so stunted in applying your mind, you can't still be blaming him, why have others failed to fix it since 2009?

@sibulelesolilo2892

6 ай бұрын

He commissioned Kusile and Medupi in his last year in office. It's his fault they stole it?

@riaanvanjaarsveldt922

6 ай бұрын

Not true

Thabo Mbeki Needs to Describe Exactly what he Means When He Says "EXCLUSION" Because it's Racially Biased, BBBEE Is being Deliberately Undermined, Especially in Provinces Like the Western Cape.... Employers would even Rather Hire BLACK & WHITE Foreigners OVER LOCALS., 2 be Compliant

@shanaazcloete8531

7 ай бұрын

That's why DA will lose votes in the WC.

@shopekassie

7 ай бұрын

The truth is it's still Black Africans that are excluded in the economy.

@llewelynbonnelle122

6 ай бұрын

Take a step back ... 🤔 think about this ... South Africans took to the streets ... to fight for their freedom from the apartheid government ... It begs the question ... Are they now free ... and free from what or who? ... take Durban Central for instance ... my observation ... who are the people that live, run businesses and control the city ... it is foreigners and not South Africans and this is evident in all the big metros and towns ... while South Africans still live in the townships and in shacks ... SO, in other words ... South Africans fought for freedom for foreigners to have a better life in South Africa 😢

@jvdm9317

6 ай бұрын

No, that's why the Western Cape is the only place still not In shambles. Voters in SA are mostly illiterate and are of poor quality. They don't know how a country works so they vote based on mass movement like a flock of sheep. They are mostly incapable of reasoning and making their own decisions.

@cassyvorster466

6 ай бұрын

All 3 % of the population are white. Wtaf u talking about ?

An SA president who lives and breaths Ubuntu, maybe ? (:

As bad as it seems we just have to grow a pair and vote out the corrupt cadres, we can't continue in this manner. Please don't ask me what to vote for there's hundreds of options, take a pick.

One cannot fail to see the disappointment and sadness in former President Mbeki's face and voice. He is disappointed by the direction the country seems to have taken since he was kicked out of power those many years ago, by a coterie of thieves who felt side-lined by his strict, no-nonsense rules of keeping the keys to the vaults away from the would be plunderers and looters. Truth be said, the economy was doing great during the presidency of Thabo Mbeki. It was when he started spending more time away from the country that the crooks found the time and influence to plan against him. It was also the time he started advocating for the African Renaissance that the Borders started opening and for him to start losing the plot. I suppose his confidence in his policies and that South Africans were more or less happy with the state of the economy, made him to think of himself as untouchable. He himself created his own downfall by taking his eyes away from the Brutuses within his own corrupt party, leading us to where we find ourselves as a country today. Yes, he never ever thought the country he fought for, for so many, many years could end up like this. I can surely understand the disappointment and sadness on his face.

@kevinrtres

6 ай бұрын

I seem to have read somewhere that he introduced the Guptas to shower-head....

While the government is busy chasing after Zimbabweans instead of solving fundamental issues around fixing inequality that came from Apartheid and that still exists

A leader of remarkable vision, wisdom, calmness, fairness, dedication, and resilience, with a profound commitment not only to South Africa but to the entire continent; it is a pity that he was hijacked or couped by a wicked force of greasy, power-hungry gangsters who had no respect for the Madiba dream.

@StudiousCattery

5 ай бұрын

A leader who stood by and watched people die AIDS while telling them to eat garlic.

@StudiousCattery

5 ай бұрын

And just for the record, he heavily undermind Madiba.

RSA never had any problems with lights water road's parks now from the time the country changed hands it's suffering all the way

Harvard should focus on America. We can sort our own problems out.

@michaelmcilrath9466

6 ай бұрын

No !!! Clearly we can … we done know where to turn and what to do!!!

@cy-villian

6 ай бұрын

@@michaelmcilrath9466 Have some faith Michael, things are changing. Please register to vote and do you part. Thanks.

You deserve the government you voted for.

@sommernetek7035

6 ай бұрын

Maar nie almal het vir daai gvnmt gestem nie, en die wat vir hulle gestem het en nou oor hulle kla gaan net weer vir hulle stem. Werk hier by ons ook so. Nam

Whats the solution??????

@kevinrtres

6 ай бұрын

That's a rhetorical question, right?

Well, quite frankly, we deserve the country we've got - too many opportunists and double-agents in our midst. Let it complete its growing pains on life support, so that those who think they are more capable can jump ship, and leave the true patriots behind - those that have nowhere else to go. Those patriots will rebuild from the ashes a future that will serve the remnant citizenry honestly and compassionately. Never be afraid to let things crash, so that the fickle may give way to the resilient that shall fix our land.

Was he not the president during the rot???? Just asking !!

Unfortunately the policies you put in place to empower black people has backfired badly we know it was coming from the right place Mr president and you were thinking long-term when you made them so just admit they are part of the problem

It doesn't mean a thing talking there, if SA is so much against the West and locked into the past.

Pay heed, or all is lost

Looks whose is talking…?

You still care about the South African's dramatically how unfortunate they are , please have your name on the ballot paper😢😢😢

Centre for Development and Harvard university nah. Why would they write about South African economy not the US economy? This is where the African problem lies, you let other people write everything for you, what is the purpose of your own universities? Why can't your own universities do the research and then write a report on the economy of their own countries. If we continue to have these foreign universities write our own history, economic and social reports, then we have failed and a people and our governments and universities are as just useless as our leaders.

South Africa is performing poorly due to its lack of proper leadership.....our political parties are currupt in every sense and their goals does not include improvement of the country

ANC getting exactly what they want. Millions of poor voters who rely completely on the government to survive through grants.

As long as racist laws like bee axist our economy will never come right

Babba you and your party disappointed all of very sad

I Hold an honors in Agriculture and looking for a job outside of South Africa. even cleaning toilets washing cars, please help I'll do it i have 3 children....if you know anyone who knows anyone please help...

He talks such rubbish and does not acknowledge his contribution and the useless ANC

Unless he is blaming himself it can only be Zuma or Cyril ???? Who's fault is it?

@Outlawproductions582

6 ай бұрын

The Whole ANC

SA is suddenly now coming under global focus because of its ability to influence unity in Africa. US has alot of problems including a very high crime rate just to mention one SA poses a threat to global status quo.

@StudiousCattery

5 ай бұрын

😂 did you even listen to the report. The world knows we sit in darkness most of the time. People know how to burn things and ask for handouts in this country, not much else.

@sunflower381

5 ай бұрын

@@StudiousCattery I did and unfortunately I witness many such mindsets on a daily basis but I must have hope otherwise we might as well all pack up and build other countries. I want to do my part to fix our home for all South Africans to enjoy.

It's only looters niw you can change all that

SA in an alternate timeline: Mandela (Late 90s): Oversees the transition of the country from apartheid to democracy, & lays the groundwork for reducing inequality. Mbeki (2000s): Maintains the policies of reducing inequality, & lays the groundwork for 90's kids to eventually spearhead economic growth. Pres. 3 (2010s): Continues his predecessors' legacies, while implementing policies that would make it very easy for our golden generation to start the businesses that would drive the economy forward, as well as attracting tons of foreign investment. Pres. 4 (2020s): Oversees the beginning of this long awaited economic boom, & prepares for SA becoming an important player in global politics. Pres. 5 (2030s): SA is finally a prosperous nation. Inequality has significantly dropped. We are even expanding our prosperity & influence towards our northern neighbours. This is the path we were supposed to taking but unfortunately, due to the diseases that are; Corruption, The lack of a truly worthy opposition party, The complacent youth, The constant bickering amongst our social classes, etc, it seems like we're doomed to watch our beloved country fall into complete chaos with no way back.

That was a whole lot of nothing.

Inaqaultity has nothing to do with this but stupidity by anc has

Traitor!

Lol

To be honest the ANC has done pretty bad with of course the help of the National Party (Democratic Alliance), Private Sector working against anything that is intended to uplift RSA and its Native people and the Oppressors still continuing with racist tendencies

Ramaposa should step down he as billions stored from previous years .how he got those mine workers killed because he a ANC he got away so he doesn't worry about the poor greedy to steal more

You president mbeki brought Bbe as as law in this country..dont try to sound clever now

😢 Then you are part of the Problem and you understand that we are in trouble but do nothing to change it well then you are equally as complicit. SA is in deep trouble and if we keep going like this its going to be a failed state.