The fact that a small town police chief was able to assess the situation, realize that this was wayyy out of their league, swallow his pride and call in for help from the experts at the FBI and help from the state police really shows his character. A lot of talking heads on TV owe that chief an apology.

@kyledavis635

Жыл бұрын

True that!

@TheSeattleWa

Жыл бұрын

Probably Idaho State Law, due to Small Rural Towns not having Capability to handle, and to Defer to State Police... I Am Sure SPD would've botched this Case Bad.

@kristentrep5038

Жыл бұрын

The only person that I’ve seen apologize to LE for underestimating their work was Kaylees dad! And he’s one of the only people who had any right imo to even criticize initially! (Meaning, I could understand his frustrations)

@heatherclayton-callaghan4270

Жыл бұрын

@@kristentrep5038 He had no more right than anyone to critise the police !!! Either the police are there to do the job according to the rules and law or forget the cops and find your assailant yourself and successfully bring someone to court and justice. !!!!

@SimpleLifeAlways81

Жыл бұрын

JonBenet police weren’t like that. They’re so dumb.

As a retired major crime and homicide investigator, the officers in this investigation did an outstanding job and we should appreciate and congratulate them for their dedication to duty.

@kenbob1071

Жыл бұрын

Thank God the rubes at the Moscow PD called in the Feds to do all the heavy lifting.

@noraoconnor1895

Жыл бұрын

I agree but Americans are truly unto themselves.baying for blood, insulting the police force,I admire them for not giving into the keyboard slueths with little knowledge. I'm amazed at Americans and what they can say about people and get away with out being charged with defamation,here in Europe I'd probably be in court.when I think of reading what they said about young men who were friends of the girls and almost accusing them was disgraceful.the stress and suffering they caused the families was shameful so no I'm not a fan of American law. It needs to be changed in this regard,"a little learning is a dangerous thing"shakespeare"

@leeanncoxey7498

Жыл бұрын

Yup Bravo Team

@crucialtaunt5717

Жыл бұрын

@@noraoconnor1895 The lack of free speech in Europe is not the flex you think it is and no American gives a d*mn about your opinions of our laws.

@henryhenrison7122

Жыл бұрын

@@kenbob1071 u know this, how?

There are two unsolved stabbings in the Washington area. The first was a 71 year old woman who was stabbed in her sleep. She was found dead in her bed. The second was a married couple. They were also attacked in their sleep by a man and stabbed. The husband died at the hospital and the wife was hospitalized but managed to survive. Both murders were done on the 13th of the month, like the Moscow murders. Both of the murders were stabbings and were committed within a 70 mil radius of Kohberger's apartment in Pullman.

@zineb6598

Жыл бұрын

Well, it might be him and it seems like he wanted more and more of a challenge, starting with an old woman to a couple to 4 young adults.

@roxannrousealvarado4645

Жыл бұрын

Damn all on the thirteenth ..good work I bet they are all him.. he worked his way up

@Crazycain11558

Жыл бұрын

I agree that he "may" have done the other killings. He was stepping up on each kill, 1, then 2. He may have wanted 3 this last time, but he didn't expect Ethan to be there. Speculation here..

@jlynn2436

Жыл бұрын

I was just looking into that too...did the surviving wife have a description of any kind? I hope police collected something they can test now. The 71 year old woman was also stabbed in her torso in her bed 😞 I don’t think this is his first AT ALL. No way

@alyssa2796

Жыл бұрын

What are the names of those cases?

Cops do a lot of things that upset people , but this has been OUTSTANDING police work and cooperation across all agencies . A true community , state , and federal effort. Justice for these young victims.

@wkjeom

Жыл бұрын

Can't help but wish something could have been done to stop him. Something to save four young lives.

@Adam-wc9eg

Жыл бұрын

I think the cops got lucky with this one. The guy was pretty damn untracable apart from his 1 mistake, which was leaving the knife sheath blatantly there. Take that out of the equation, and I am almost certain they may not even have their guy yet, and people like you would probably start complaining about their 'poor' police work. To me, the police did what they were supposed to, and that's all.

@Killbayne

Жыл бұрын

@@Adam-wc9eg They were onto him since late November. They got his phone number from a previous traffic stop and traced his cellphone signal paths throughout the way, which is when they realized that the white Elantra was involved with it. There's a whole mosaic of evidence pointing towards mr "criminal mastermind" cold burger.

@xavieraboltiador1958

Жыл бұрын

@@Adam-wc9eg The hyundai was the first clue. They traced him because of the car. The DNA was only used to confirm that he was on scene. Even if they got the sheath but he is not in the system, they will probably have a harder time. But the car led the police to a likely suspect. That's why they went through his trash and compared it to the sheath. The sheath alone wasn't gonna do anybody good if the criminal has no DNA on record.

@sbFreakinxRican

Жыл бұрын

@@Adam-wc9eg dude he used his own family car for the murder. He wasn’t untraceable in the slightest

The cops knew his name and started following him a whole month before they arrested him it says in the affidavit. They were so smart to not release info

@robinbanks5418

Жыл бұрын

Correct!

@NoName-ml5yk

Жыл бұрын

That's not what it says.

@erobins8352

Жыл бұрын

You’re pretty

@Mrhorrorleak

Жыл бұрын

@@erobins8352 your thirsty

@nickmandleberg

Жыл бұрын

Yeah those times he got pulled over definitely seemed like they were on purpose and not just random.

Finally; a guy with no BS, speaking frankly and accurately. You asked great questions and he provide great responses to the questions very well. To both of the guys, a refreshing job well done.

@XFonti-ik3ql

Жыл бұрын

Agree 💯% 👌

@Zia01023

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@bertkilborne6464

Жыл бұрын

It would be an interesting twist, If there was a cult among criminology grads to commit murder and get away with it. There would be a motive - Agreed ... Far fetched, but not impossible. If he does away with himself before the trial, that will be a clue.

@cynthiahusband106

Жыл бұрын

You leave your DNA , you leave your name….. murder 101……. Still would like the motive ….. 4 lives lost for what , for WHAT????these young beautiful kids gone , for what????god they were beautiful and young may they Rest In Peace🥀

@dutchray8880

Жыл бұрын

This guy actually understands forensic DNA evidence. A lot of cops, district attorneys, and defense attorneys still haven't been well schooled about DNA.

"The Boy ain't Right!" You gotta love his clear facts and honesty during the interview, to then to Sum it up to one simple statement that everyone can understand, from a 6 year old to PHD. it was minimal, to the point, and beautifully concise communication! Love listening to him! Thanks for sharing this clip!

@BEAUTYnIQ

Жыл бұрын

lol perfect, succint, concise, common sense comment!

@katherinehunter9526

Жыл бұрын

@@BEAUTYnIQ Thanks!💞

Sick. And so very sad. My heart grieves with these families

For a small police dept, they did a Hell of Job. Congratulations to all Law Enforcement who were a part of this investigation. It's sad to live in a World where we now need more cameras around.

@Bahia82

Жыл бұрын

Thank FBI

@whoswhoo

Жыл бұрын

Cameras have been crucial in solving so many crimes . The more cameras the better . If you've nothing to hide you've no fear of cameras .

@dockle

Жыл бұрын

You're correct, but to be fair, they did have the Idaho State Police and others, Washington State Police and others, the FBI, and the Pennsylvania authorities. They did not do it alone.

@blackicex1622

Жыл бұрын

@@whoswhoo , my house has five cameras and motion detection alarm. Best investment.

@crimebae2360

Жыл бұрын

Lol FBI did all the work 😂

Really good interview, I’m proud of the people that caught him. Peace to the victims and their families.

@2barquack

Жыл бұрын

I kind of want to watch this expert. Talk more about things like this? He's like very intriguing

@bensun-ra9956

Жыл бұрын

He's innocent...white lives matter

@2barquack

Жыл бұрын

Okay guys, I found that he has a website and a social media presence so you can find online by googling his name

@elitamalita8123

Жыл бұрын

Is it him though?

@sharonpigeon2869

Жыл бұрын

Bk is innocent till proven guilty

I LOVE that you pointed out "a real moron move"! That was the best! Especially because he has such an inflated idea of how smart he is. For him, a legacy of idiocy is a fate worse than death. The best punishment would be Maximum Security, in Solitary, with a TV that only shows news reports that call him out as a "Moron", forever, and ever, and ever

@azgal663

Жыл бұрын

Lol! Twilight zone.

@donalddicorcia2433

Жыл бұрын

You’d think someone working on a Phd in criminology would know their cell phone is a tracking device that also happens to make phone calls.

@LisaPeterson227

Жыл бұрын

The best way to get him to confess, tell him how dumb he is. He will not want people to know the results of his preliminary exam.

@724kdr

Жыл бұрын

Best comment ever.

@titaniumdiveknife2

Жыл бұрын

Capital punishment

“Thank you very much,we’ll take that!” Imagine the panic the killer had when he realized he left that sheath behind, may as well of left his drivers license

It is strangely poetic that this guy thought how smart he was, with his degree in criminology, his meticulous planning and even reasearch about criminals and possibly how not to leave evidence...only to be caught by a small department that had little experience with solving murders as there was none in Moscow for like 7 years, which I honestly think was one of his reasons for doing it there.

@hitleractually8180

Жыл бұрын

FBI. Moscow PD didn't do anything except fuck stuff up lmao

@jaswin5994

Жыл бұрын

Moscow hasn't had a murder in YEARS, mostly because they don't know how to process a crime scene

@963seeker

Жыл бұрын

stupid comment, the local police pleaded with the state government which lended more than $1M + to help solve the murder, but it was the FBI and their resources coupled with tips that helped bring this creep to justice.

@richardernsberger5692

Жыл бұрын

He didn't commit the crime in Moscow because it had a small police department. He did it because that's where he lived---or Moscow was very close to where he lived. Also, I wouldn't say that the Moscow police department "solved the case." Yes, it solved it--but with the help of lots of investigators from various agencies, especially including the FBI, which did all the analysis of the cellphone data.

@McNea

Жыл бұрын

ok

‘The boy ain’t right,’ the best comment ever. Such a loaded and yet perfect description- reveals so much, because unfortunately he was restricted to say too much.

@jasonvoorhees5640

Жыл бұрын

and if he had gotten away with it. we would have another crazy pig on the streets

@melodydorman733

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@alinafakin370

Жыл бұрын

...but he made it sounds as if Bundy was "a boy that was right", a great figure that BK just could not compare with. Now think about that.

@bernelollab

Жыл бұрын

😂

@marybailey7881

Жыл бұрын

he must be a southerner?

Amazing detective work and keeping it all quiet is amazing.

RIP to the dearly departed. May we all try to create a better world so no one has to suffer like you did.

@razamughal4582

Жыл бұрын

Thats not gonna happen. We are too far gone.

You can read the affidavit on line. It’s very detailed how they were tracking him well before any DNA evidence implicated him. Video surveillance of his car going back and forth from the crime scene and his university numerous times before and during the murders and cell phone towers along the exact route pinging his cell phone on the same dates and times. He left Touch DNA on the sheath button snap from prior handling with hands. Remember, he was obviously wearing gloves during the murders but it didn’t matter because anything you touch leaves DNA on it. They had enough suspicion to request Pennsylvania authorities to take trash from the parents house. That trash matched the DNA profile on the button snap. He’s busted and there’s no defense. He got sloppy and left too many clues behind.

@-First-Last

Жыл бұрын

HOPEFULLY they got the right guy.

@BW-kv9wj

Жыл бұрын

@@-First-Last 100% he’s the “right guy.”

@sandygibbon2761

Жыл бұрын

Then why put out a call to find an Elantra ... when they had it pegged all along? ... just to see what he would do, maybe ...

@thelegendarykevininsales7589

Жыл бұрын

@@sandygibbon2761 not to throw off the suspect. Let him think he’s one step ahead, that’s when people relax and make a stupid blunder.

@BW-kv9wj

Жыл бұрын

@@sandygibbon2761 Because they didn’t have the license plate number. There’s no way of knowing who owned a white Elantra. One of the traffic stops on the white Elantra, the suspect gave his phone number to the police officer which returned to the suspect and that same phone pinged cell towers along the route on 12 prior occasions to and from his university to the crime scene and back. Read the affidavit on line. It’s quite interesting and detailed how they linked him to the crimes.

This guy tells it straight - damn good analysis and right to the point without TV theatrics.

@allendracabal0819

Жыл бұрын

Cloyd Steiger for President!

I bet being called a rookie and knowing he made stupid mistakes will drive this guy mad.

How could anyone say this took too long? What an amazing job!

@WadesWorldd

Жыл бұрын

I victims families might disagree. Every single day that the killer was out free was a living and still is a living nightmare for them. So yes, 2 months could seem like a lifetime for the victims family. Little inconsiderate of their feelings in your comment.

@bl9531

Жыл бұрын

@@WadesWorldd yes Derrick, should have been solved the next day. I guess investigators were lazy. I have been the primary initial officer of several murder/homicide cases - IMO most law enforcement people would consider this to be rapid resolution of a murder investigation … what can I say?

@WadesWorldd

Жыл бұрын

@B L Not once did i say anything about the investigation taking too long or calling them lazy. It's pretty obvious you can't comprehend what I said, so you would rather deflect, lol. Such ignorance! Like I said earlier. Think about the victims family. Shouldn't be a difficult thing to do.

@bl9531

Жыл бұрын

@@WadesWorldd if you aren’t saying it took too long … what are you saying lol -

@WadesWorldd

Жыл бұрын

@B L are you slow? I've only mentioned my point more than a few times. Yet you still don't get it , or try to understand that family's of victims viewpoint might be different from yours since they actually lost a family member. Every single day seems like a lifetime that he wasn't caught. At the same time, they didn't discredit the work the police did in catching this guy. Two things can be true. Your initial comment is insensitive to those who went through this. Still can't believe you choose to simply ignore trying to look through their lense on the matter. Have a good day!

I was attacked by a stranger when i was asleep in my bed when I was 23. That guy also left his knife sheath in my bed. This case reminds me how lucky I am he let me live. Maybe he had some sympathy when I begged for my unborn baby’s life? I was 6 months pregnant but didn’t show a lot, so maybe he didn’t know before he broke in? Anyway, this was a long time ago. My son died at 21 due to cancer complications. I’m glad I had him for as long as I did.

@mooshdaddy123

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that you sound like you are a great mom!

@pipandlou

Жыл бұрын

🙏

@pipandlou

Жыл бұрын

Love how you forever cherish your boy.

@lindac6919

Жыл бұрын

Hugs, dear.

@thegreypath1777

Жыл бұрын

Condolences

For being a PHD student , he sure left a lot of evidence.

@LOLONO666

Жыл бұрын

maybe he did not expect 4 people in there

@calebclark6739

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Kind of like these college educated kids that have no idea how to run a company

@elena-lc4uk

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they never said he was smart

@lucianlackman8103

Жыл бұрын

He failed woefully. Not so smart

@AshleyLebedev

Жыл бұрын

And for being a PHD student in criminology it just seems so odd he left behind the sheath, like what!?

These officers did a fantastic job gathering the evidence and most of all not publicly giving out any of the info. They did not buckled under the pressure from the public, they focused and did their job. Much thanks to the officers for a job well done.

@johnnysprocketz

Жыл бұрын

When was the last time somebody told you you did a good job at work never OK

I am an ordinary citizen of Poland who has been following the developments in this case from day one. Each of us, regardless of geographical location around the world, should know very well that social media is not a homicide department or a high court. the disclosure of information on this case by social media and journalists can help escape or manipulate evidence in court. as citizens, we should cooperate in such a situation and know that 10-20% of the information disclosed is what we should see, especially in such a media case. In such cases, the media should cooperate, not interfere. 80-90% must remain secret and serve as a weapon for the department to bring the perpetrator to justice. Leads that may lead to the apprehension of the perpetrator should be sent directly to the investigating department, not pasted on social media. We are all certain of the acts committed by the murderer, but presenting it and proving it in court are two different things. after the information released at the moment, it can be seen that the police had full control, and the arrest was only a matter of time. police vs social media 1:0 good job USA

That retired Seattle cop had some neat insights. Good interview.

@joejoe9566

Жыл бұрын

Yes. He explained it well.

@marybailey7881

Жыл бұрын

they use words like "ain't right in the head" there? I thought he was from TX or KY

@nathanjamesbaker

Жыл бұрын

The questions were good and the answers were great. This is the single best expert I have seen interviewed about this case.

@nataliejohnson1467

Жыл бұрын

I liked him. Seasoned Grandpa vibes

@jaswin5994

Жыл бұрын

@@marybailey7881I'm from Texas and that's what I thought too😂

Finally a professional saying the guy was not nearly as intelligent as most made him to be. Educated jerks ain't brilliant.

@honorthyparents8510

Жыл бұрын

Who gives a shit what a non related professional says. Its his grades and what his teachers say and the fact that he was earning his PHD that matters and shows how intelligent someone is. I really feel that Americans and American youth are some of the dumbest people in the world when I read their comments. 🤦🤦🤦

@jojobee42

Жыл бұрын

I don't think he made those rookie mistakes by accident. I think he purposely did those things so he WOULD get caught...

@jaimeroman2406

Жыл бұрын

🙄🙄🙄

@SerpentKiss11

Жыл бұрын

@@jojobee42 I am like yeah wow this guy HAD to want to have the clout or idk man, this is an awful lot of "mistakes" or "negligence" for someone involved in criminology and forensics...right??

@thinkingallowed7042

Жыл бұрын

1:20 The guy who reads from a teleprompter calling anyone else a moron and describing a postgraduate education as 'information'. So tired of uneducated jerks with a chip on their shoulder thinking they know everything. If you're so smart, go and get one of these qualifications that requires no intelligence or hard work yourself!

Prayers for the families, this is so sad :**(

When one of the Indiana State Troopers stopped him & his dad he asked them where they were going and Bryan said, "We're going to get Thai food" and then his dad said, "yeah we're coming from Washington state headed to Pennsylvania." Bryan's eyes got big as saucers 😂 the look on his face was "WTF dad!"

They did do a good job the police every body was impatient because this case is so heartbreaking

@davidstaudohar6733

Жыл бұрын

🐂💩on Top of more 🐂💩‼️

@janestones323

Жыл бұрын

Jeff! Everybody, not every body /unless you mean the 4 victims/

@VioletJoy

Жыл бұрын

Also, people were impatient because they are arrogant, have unrealistic expectations, and don't care if they destroy reputations - those on the investigation team and also innocent people connected to the case.

@donnakreye8339

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely HEARTBREAKING!!!

@330wiz7

Жыл бұрын

Well the murderer left DNA at the scene and his car was on video. So he made it as easy for the cops as he could.

Dude it’s crazy how well these detectives did. Smart people man

@gurusheat3506

Жыл бұрын

Its not crazy at all, its actually so basic its unreal. Dont overthink how dumb you are, you could do this work with the proper authority to get information

@bossmansslife

Жыл бұрын

@@gurusheat3506 oh for sure 😂

This retired detective was fantastic! Cut right to the chase!!! Spot on!! Thank you!

@villebooks

Жыл бұрын

So why do you know, it is "spot on"? 😏

LE did an outstanding job in this investigation. They are to be congratulated for their dedication to duty, keeping a close to the vest investigation and catching the killer. Well done all of them.

As a retired Marine, I can tell you that most of your training from day one is done while in chaos. That's a big part of your training. From the moment you wake until your head hits the rack at lights out. Total Chaos while being trained. There's a good reason for that.

@fpsVAMPZ

Жыл бұрын

Still trying to wrap my head around letting the roommate who saw him live.

@solomonstello

Жыл бұрын

@@fpsVAMPZ she was in the dark.

@saomychau7010

Жыл бұрын

@@fpsVAMPZ He must compromise and leave quickly, as he allowed himself only 20-30 minutes. But if he saw the witness and chase after her, she ran into the bathroom or bedroom and locked the door, then he will need to know how to knock the door down, and that could be very loud, and would surely "disturb the peace" at that hour of the morning ,and could even raise more suspicion as he lose all the stealthy atmosphere for his "operation Killing 4 or more".

@jaswin5994

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think he asked if anyone else was arrested?! She's not innocent by far

@karenmerrell-brown1196

Жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks for sharing.

So Sad & Heartbreaking That 4 Innocent Young Lives Were Taken By This Psychopath 😡

@gengremspring4553

Жыл бұрын

Please-You And others… sounds like he is the perpetrator. But if you believe in the American Justice system, then hes innocent until proven guilty. Something could have gone a ride and it's not him… then what friend and his family? That's a small thing, concerning what those families have gone through, to see this come to light, but you never know… so let's not just jump the gun… it's still very early on Indian investigation. I would be quick to call him a psychopath, I work in psychology. … but I'm Giving him a small chance….. Was he involved with someone in the house? Or was he just a plain stalker? Unfortunately, fortunately, the victims can't speak. Against most Hons, having seen way too many people go to prison men and women alike for crimes they didn't commit, let's see what comes out, and then maybe we can call him a psychopathic killer. Until then, I'm silent. As should the rest of you be. Besides just being another human being to another human being to another human being what should matter to you, what if you were his family? His sister, his mother, his dad, his high school best friend? Just wait. There's plenty of time…Thank you.

@Alan.Bishop

Жыл бұрын

Who said that he was mentally ill?

@rickprol-pc8ds

Жыл бұрын

Yes, clearly a psychopath and I am pretty sure he did other crimes before these 4 murders, maybe not other murders but Something and we will most likely never know to a certainty. He didn't just Snap. There was a long long process to get to this point. Maybe some of it will come out, maybe he will end up confessing but I highly doubt it. His demeanor alone, IMHO, says so much as to his at this time - Obvious guilt.

@debbiesittard7979

Жыл бұрын

Innocent babies are murdered everyday in the Abortion mills by Psychopaths! Where is the outrage over that?! I’m sick of hearing this shit all over the news! It’s past time to move on!

@rickprol-pc8ds

Жыл бұрын

@@debbiesittard7979 could you show some respect?? Is that possible? I doub it. Stop conflating issues dear. Yer making a false equivalency, CAPICHE? You wanna talk about Other issues - this is Not the place for it. Yer high and mighty baloney is not welcomed, GET IT?

Investigators need to research every missing person in the areas he has lived.

I really like the expert. He told facts, not feelings and was open minded.

All the law officials involved did a great job.

@bryanhengst4591

Жыл бұрын

Kuddos to all who helped !

@gurusheat3506

Жыл бұрын

Jeez its amazing how everyone thanks people that do basic shit *Non street work* .. match DNA with a computer.. ping towers.. narrow down select car within a 10 mile radius .. not hard with the authority

This is some of the best police work I’ve ever seen in my lifetime - so much for small town police - they did a great job pinning this down - I should add the reason I say some of the best police work is Becasue ALL jobs should be done like this and taken this seriously but sadly don’t. If people realize how many women get murdered from abusers every year and how much crime actually goes unresolved and even non investigated I think the public would be horrified. My own case from being assaulted and attacked was brushed under the rug and the guy got away with it. Every case should be taken this serious. This force did a great job formulating a team and building this case - the key stone cops that handled the Petito case should take some lessons.

@chocolatetownforever7537

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Its hard to believe they had much experience in terms of investigating murders in that area. I know the FBI did help as well, but to what degree isnt known yet.

@jasonvoorhees5640

Жыл бұрын

Why, what have you seen that the rest of us haven't?

@MeatCatCheesyBlaster

Жыл бұрын

The fbi probably did everything on a case of this importance.

@lorae7

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonvoorhees5640 not sure what you mean. We’ve all had access to the same things and I’ve seen a lot of botched cases and lazy police work - including my own assault that Was handled with a “could total care less” attitude by the police department and they did the bare minimum to investigate who assaulted and attacked me

@christinamanweiler3541

Жыл бұрын

Yes, an how they kept all there info under wraps regardless of all the mouth runners. Great job

One short and sweet interviews with a plethora of solid information and knowledge. Thank you.

Fabulous police work. From Scotland.

I had confidence on the MPD since day 1... It takes time to solve such horrific murders.. Thank You Detectives, Investigators, and FBI for all your hard work!!!

@TheVeek192

Жыл бұрын

Riiiiiiight. Did you say that on day 1? Bet not.

I read a book about sociopaths and basically it said why ask why. There's no answer to why they kill because sociopaths are wired completely differently than normal people.

@724kdr

Жыл бұрын

Yes, no matter what the answer is we will never understand because it will never be rational.

@janetstonerook4552

Жыл бұрын

They kill to reassure themselves that they are elevated above other humans and their "stupid laws"!

great comments, great interview. I am surprised how quickly they got him. well done

Was beginning to think journalism is a thing of the past. *Great interview!*

From former classmates, the suspect always thought he was the smartest in the room and could get abusive if challenged.

@pennytrue2741

Жыл бұрын

Well his “intelligence” is on display for the world to see now and he’s probably either still denying it to himself or humiliated as the entire world reads the affidavit.

@rsmith02

Жыл бұрын

People like that are just insecure

Thanks and Kudos to each and everyone who played a role in bringing a closure to the parents of the victims.

@kartofle123

Жыл бұрын

What closure? There hasn't been a trial yet and last time I looked you are innocent until found guilty in a court of law.

@ariadneschild8460

Жыл бұрын

@@kartofle123 a good suspect as opposed to no suspect is closure beginning.

@buttdreads

Жыл бұрын

KUDAS YOUR RETORTED COMMENT

@pointlessproductions5113

Жыл бұрын

@@ariadneschild8460 there is no such thing as closure. It’s just you patting yourselves on the back.

@ariadneschild8460

Жыл бұрын

@@pointlessproductions5113 that's your opinion, I'm not patting myself bc I had no part in the investigation. A suspect is better than none mate.

Great questions and impressively reassuring answers. Thank you.

Every time I see outstanding work from the police, I'm reminded of how terrible the police in Uvalde are. I can't get away from that tragedy, it's seared into my brain. I'm just so glad they got this guy.

I think the guy just wanted to kill. He was seeking information from criminals on how they selected their victims. I don't think these victims had a true connection to Bryan, or that there was a personal motive for the killing. I think he just assumed they would be easy victims because of their lifestyle, and knowing that the house was a party house with frequent visitors would add to the confusion of a small police department on who the suspect could be. With multiple victims in one crime scene -- again it expands the potential for suspects. I think Bryan thought he was smarter than the police -- and possibly even the sheath was intentionally left behind -- because it had USMC on it -- maybe to make the police suspect a former marine. If the sheath had just the single fingerprint on the snap, he may have overlooked that detail if he wiped the rest of it from fingerprints. I think he probably expected to get away with it for a long time -- but the police did an exceptional job. There would never be any motive to justify the murders, but I think people really want to believe there has to be a reason -- when it simply can just be that evil people do evil things.

@nielszindel1151

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree with you Lisa. Delia Morris

@honorthyparents8510

Жыл бұрын

Your first two sentences dont make any sense. Just because you are studying how criminals choose their victims doesn't mean you have to kill to know because it still won't give you the answer of how criminals choose their victims. These are two separate ideas. The way you know how a criminal chooses his victims are to ask the criminal himself and to study and observe his killing pattern.

@80kokoro

Жыл бұрын

I mean if you want to make it as serial killer it is always best to choose victims you don’t have any ties to since that’s usually the first place LE look for suspects

@billrehm3590

Жыл бұрын

Just having a car the police are looking for on campus close to the crime scene. One police officer running the tags it goes back to PA ,they get a name , look up his online profile. If they originally looked up that make of car in a 200 mile radius it wouldn't have shown up. They get his phone and check if it pinged close to the crime scene. They can check for any pings in a certain area and track it back to an owner.

@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325

Жыл бұрын

Why would he keep his phone on him? He's not too bright... Maybe book smart, but that's about it.

Excellent interview. Great questions and great answers.

Great interview…thank you

As a retired state trooper investigator this interview was one of the best of the dozens I've been watching since the case began. The cable news circuits have full stables of has- been and way-over-their pay grade interviews and opinions, including one very annoying guy named after a famous ball player. This is a street wise guy, the kind who solves crime. Moscow PD did a great job. I agree, too much was released due to public pressure. This was I believe the first high profile case where social media has really gotten themselves in the way. Info on the car, likely why he changed the registration, a good example. The cops reporting a possible KaBar knife - duh, the killer knew he forgot his sheath. If the cops intentionally arranged those traffic stops in Indiana then they screwed up not having a plain clothes trooper (back in uniform) making the contacts. A lot of info could have been garnered from the road side chats. Example "geez, WSU?, you guys are driving a white Elantra just like what they are looking for, where you there when it happened, LOL, etc.). A great "knock & talk" missed - twice. Be great to get a video view of both of their faces had that happened. And no need to look for injuries either, they did full body photographs in PA after they arrested him in booking with a search warrant.

@cheriszymanski2752

Жыл бұрын

Did he have injuries. I thought his hands looked red and swollen in the pics of him walking to courthouse. Hand injuries take a long time to heal.

@taramiller3236

Жыл бұрын

If you were an investigator, you'd know that when you move to another state, you have to buy that state tag when you renew. His birthday was that month. A d by the times they arrested him, it was over a month. And wounds would have probably healed.

@garytellep5392

Жыл бұрын

@@taramiller3236 I've written enough registration tickets (hundreds) so no, you don't have to. There are a lot of reasons why you can live in one state and have registration tags in another. School, a transient non perm job, military service. Usually if you don't fit those criteria, 90 days after you claim permanent residency applies. Or when the tag actually expires. Unlike OL requirements in many states you can renew online or through the mail, DMV wants your $$. A lot of people play the tag game to avoid paying higher fees. He may have wanted WA tags to claim residency to get a cheaper tuition rate. News flash; what a person "has to do" and what they chose to do are two different subjects altogether. Injuries: upon arrest by search warrant they did a full body exam and took photographs. Perhaps those traffic stop cops could see a cut visible on his hands or wrists but like an iceberg most of it could be concealed under his clothing. Healed? Scratches, likely yes. deep cuts, perhaps even wounds closed by sutures, no.

@taramiller3236

Жыл бұрын

@@garytellep5392 I wrote you back with policy it was taken down......so sorry but you're wrong.

@garytellep5392

Жыл бұрын

@@taramiller3236 Policy about what?

Thank You, All the law enforcement that respectfully declined to lash out at the grieving family’s frustrated. This is an example of integrity! This is an example of strength! Wish I could buy all them trip away or dinner, something! Thank you officers for being strong enough to take the pain of the family’s grieving! All these people have been through hell, it nice to know they could count on all you to rise above. Wish we could give these people their beloved back. My heart goes out and prayers they can be strong for each other.

@lindadabney2550

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your appreciation and respect in acknowledging the hard work, integrity, and strength of all the people involved in this painful disaster. The media (as usual) is making a drama of this painful horror in order to obtain ratings.

@jodeming5088

Жыл бұрын

I have two nephews that are officers and have known many others in my life time. They do not get the respect that they deserve. If everyone could give them some credit and have something nice to say to or about them would be nice. They see things that would destroy the normal person. All we have to Remember is they care and aren’t aloud to comment. A little respect goes a long way.

@moniqueraster5886

Жыл бұрын

Law enforcement has gotten so much unfair backlash in the last years- it’s time to give credit to the men and women putting their lives on the line so we can live safely and catch the monsters.

@daddy1571

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Lot's of people have nothing good to say about cops until they need them. Then they get back on their soapbox and cry that they need cops. It's so insanely contradictory. I always give cops respect,and am honest about when I got speeding tickets. I have always been treated well by every one of them because I accept that I broke the law,which is what you do in my world. I was raised this way. I notice lot's of people raising kids to NOT respect law enforcement,which leads to resisting arrest,and other infantile behavior towards cops.

@kenbob1071

Жыл бұрын

Not lashing out at grieving families takes integrity and strength? Geezus that's a low bar.

Wonderful job that the police and FBI did!! Continued prayers for all the families!!

@billtoal7740

Жыл бұрын

Idaho P.D yes state and local outstanding

@Sunshinexoxo4795

Жыл бұрын

Kudos

@billtoal7740

Жыл бұрын

The Idaho police did a great job.

Great interview!!!!

Not leaving his phone at home and leaving the knife sheath there. Huge mistakes! And casing the house for weeks!

What an incredible interview! Short & sweet, but full of knowledge & information. Both men very well-spoken👏🏼

This retired detective is AWESOME.

@a.b.creator

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I wonder if he's written any books or done any speeches. I'd listen to that retired detective again, he's sharp!

@a.b.creator

Жыл бұрын

Det. Cloyd Steiger is his name. I checked the description since they didn't say in the video. ✔️

Thanks for the awesome and thorough analysis!!

They had him as a suspect pretty much 2 weeks after the gruesome murders. Moscow police, fb, etc. Did a great job!! They deserve a lot of credit! Very professional.

@thedragonlee76

Жыл бұрын

Umm,yep.They tracked him through his vehicle that was seen by witnesses.They followed him to get a DNA sample directly from him.

This guy was caught incredibly fast

@lottnio8207

Жыл бұрын

Not really. Many are caught much faster. But I don’t mean taking time is bad police work at all. Some cases are just more difficult than others.

@Jen-X333

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

Fascinating interview. Excellent, thank you

Good interview, Seattle TV!

I think the sheath got left on accident. I think he was so high from doing it, along with adrenaline rush, and it was dark enough, he probably missed it. People in fight response get tunnel vision and easily miss things. Reasons for my theory: 1. He drove south to Blaine Idaho immediately after, probably to ditch the knife and sheath and other items he wore. 2. He went back near the kids house around 9 am, probably to see if anyone had reported it yet, and maybe to see if he had dropped the sheath on the ground. Then drove immediately home to WSU. He probably relaxed when police didn't mention finding anything on the scene that would indicate what weapon was used specifically. Which would explain his elation in class except when they discussed the case. He thought he had gotten away with it.

@shauncasey8295

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Phone tracking information says he went back to the crime scene at around 9:20 that morning. Probably realized the knife sheath was still in the house, but didn't want to risk going back inside.

@notadumbblond3

Жыл бұрын

@@shauncasey8295 I've been thinking it's a really good thing they caught him when they did. I think if they had gone much longer he may have started to plan another one once he felt he was clear and back at college for the next semester. I doubt this would have been a one-time thing for him if he had gotten away with it.

@dianaw2179

Жыл бұрын

I like your theories, and I think in his excited state he may have gotten lost on his way back home! (dark lol…) He turned the phone off/airplane so it wouldn’t track him at the time of the murders, so he also probably couldn’t use Google maps. Being new-ish to the area, and there are a lot of rural roads out there, he got turned around in his excited rush to leave, and then had to turn the phone on to find his way back home when he realized he was going in the wrong direction, down to Blaine. Otherwise if he were at all smart, he wouldn’t have turned the phone back on until he was home, so it would look like he was home the whole time. Intriguing oddball thought that occurred to me!

@ILruffian

Жыл бұрын

@@dianaw2179 You are correct. Or if really smart, he would have left his phone home and gotten a stand alone GPS. Even using a burner with an account on a gift card months back is risky.

@notadumbblond3

Жыл бұрын

@@dianaw2179 Oooh! I didn't think of that!

I don’t think this was his first murder.

@tea4223

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@honorthyparents8510

Жыл бұрын

It was thats why it was sloppy

@metalm4910

Жыл бұрын

Probably killing animals and I would just about bet that his Rich mommy and daddy knew all about it

@davec3651

Жыл бұрын

It would be odd to make your first time to take out 4 people instead of just 1.

@Elgixxer2006

Жыл бұрын

@@honorthyparents8510 agree serial killers get better after every murder. He got caught ..he left evidence !

What wonderful words of wisdom located on the wall of the former detectives room; Thank you sir! True indeed

This was a refreshing interview. Straightforward.

Great interview! The detective explained DNA value better than any expert I have heard with the idea of a juror not having any scientific knowledge of the process.

@senorbaconhawk11

Жыл бұрын

Except he was possibly wrong and it sounds like they didn’t do YSTRs. The statistic in the affidavit is a paternity statistic. That statistic cannot be done for the type of DNA that the interviewee is describing. (I work in Forensic Biology doing DNA analysis)

@InSearchofTruththruJesusChrist

Жыл бұрын

@@senorbaconhawk11 lol, well he had me convinced. Gee, if it only was that simple 😉

@senorbaconhawk11

Жыл бұрын

@@InSearchofTruththruJesusChrist More simple would certainly make my job easier! Obviously I’m only speculating here based on what the info from the affidavit means to me. I’m guessing the interviewee was talking about YSTRs since the affidavit mentions a male profile. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they did Y-chromosomal testing since the “regular” DNA testing also looks at a few sex determining places on DNA.

@xploration1437

Жыл бұрын

The police violated the 4th amendment.

@Lea941

Жыл бұрын

@@xploration1437 How?

I'm amused that everyone was saying the case was going cold and then it comes out that they already knew and were just watching him, great way to lull him into a false sense of security.

Excellent information

I heard that he has visited the house 12 times before the murder? His sister lived right down the street too... I'm wondering if this was actually a crime of passion and not some kind of serial killer. Maybe he had a relationship with one of them, or one of them rejected him...

@wqv5423ln

Жыл бұрын

No, he didnt visit the house! His car was in the area of the house late at night

I must apologize to the officers in Moscow. You are very good at what you do.

@kenbob1071

Жыл бұрын

Puh-lease. The Feds did all the investigative work. The rubes at the Moscow PD were just the public face and they botched that job.

@overkillblackjack2910

Жыл бұрын

@@kenbob1071 didn't they do a good job of asking the Feds for help?

@julielumsden5184

Жыл бұрын

How do you know they botched the job? I’m curious

@ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571

Жыл бұрын

@@overkillblackjack2910 Yes they did! They didn't want to be stupid like the Uvalde police

Great interview. Love Det. Steiger's insights.

@tea4223

Жыл бұрын

...and the interviewer asked the right questions.

@clarkbowen9882

Жыл бұрын

Are You Linda from Silverdale, Wa. Chris's sister?

@lindalarson5468

Жыл бұрын

@@clarkbowen9882 Nope

Great report thanks.

Great interview.

The fact that he literally was stalking them is crazy

@seizuregirlllll

Жыл бұрын

Not really I did a study on male and female serial killers and a very high percentage of male killers end up stalking their victim or victims

These police sure did a lot better than police for the killing of Jon Benet Ramsay. They knew they needed help and got it right away. That sure shows a lot of intelligence and humbleness. Well done all involved.

@rubyus7332

Жыл бұрын

In her case many think somebody in the family (her brother may be) did it accidentally or not and authorities decided to “cover it up”.

@alaskafrozen4978

Жыл бұрын

@@rubyus7332 Exactly.

@byronhk4197

Жыл бұрын

After she was reported missing, the CBI or Colorado Bureau of Investigation offered their assistance to the Boulder Police, who promptly turned it down. They didn't need help. Just like when Robert Redford's daughter's boyfriend was found dead in a massive pothole at an apartment parking lot, covered with a blanket. It was "natural" causes, until Redford went to the media. THEN it was changed to homicide. Didn't find that guy either.

Great interview. Worth listening to someone who really knows what they’re talking about.

Very good interview

My sister was attacked in her home on November 18th 2022. In Everett Washington I thought it was him she was beat almost to death Now I think it was her Landlord he’s really weird too no one has done anything about this her body was so badly beaten she almost died

@allysonspringett4927

Жыл бұрын

WHy is not one person looking

@ajdavies4677

Жыл бұрын

I am in WA and remember hearing about this but then the story just disappeared. Prayers for your family and I hope your sister is healing well 🙏 and that they catch who did that.

@TheCatD

Жыл бұрын

Prayers they find the person in your sisters case.

@stephaniesmart

Жыл бұрын

Idk - but this wasn’t his first attack guaranteed. He didn’t get to this level overnight.

@TreeofLife_111

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness! This is awful! I truly hope they find the person responsible. Sending good thoughts your way.

He was stalking them. It happens all the time. That’s the motive. 12 cell phone hits around the house before the murder in the late night and wee hours of the morning in a town he has no ties to.

@Bella-wj7kf

Жыл бұрын

Besides, your phone pings based on towers and sometimes pings in a certain location even if you are 20 miles away, that’s how it works, so that part is a stretch.

@el34glo59

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@dextermoore278

Жыл бұрын

Cell phone pings mean nothing. I heard his sister lives in Moscow. He also probably knew people there as well. Maybe he went to Moscow to buy drugs.

@jasonvoorhees5640

Жыл бұрын

what's the motive?

@CC-xu2yz

Жыл бұрын

@@dextermoore278 Cell phone pings certainly do mean something, especially coupled with physical and video evidence.

Excellent guest! Thank you for your expertise. You rock. 🥰

Really good interview.

During the 1st week, I new the detectives already had their killer. It's was just about waiting on DNA results to come back. There was no way a person can kill 4 ppl that up close and not leave any DNA behind. What I didn't know was that this monster left the sheath to his knife behind. When detectives are tight lipped about a case, and don't even share progress with family... they know more than they're letting on! Let them do their job without the harsh criticism. It's a no Brainer why they didn't share info the victims families, especially Kaylee Goncalves father. He was kind of like a loose cannon. God only knows what information he would have shared with the media.

@catlady3147

Жыл бұрын

Maybe on a subconscious level he wanted to be caught?

@anne3067

Жыл бұрын

He was pretty good though - only a tiny, tiny bit on the knife sheaf in the whole house. What I can’t understand is how he didn’t step in any blood, to leave footprints on his way out, since the scene was supposedly so bloody.

@catlady3147

Жыл бұрын

@@anne3067 apparently there WAS a footprint at the door of the surviving roommate who failed to call 911. Smdh.

@Izzyoutcast

Жыл бұрын

The reports say they didn’t find any DNA from him from the actual murders. The DNA they found on the button snap of the knife sheath was previous touch DNA left behind from prior handling without gloves. He wore gloves and was prepared when he committed the murders. If he would’ve handled the sheath more cautiously before hand and or didn’t leave it behind they probably wouldn’t have DNA.

@CM-sy3to

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe the FBI would have been brought in or the case would have been solved without 2 specifics: 1-the victims were young and beautiful, 2-that dad wasn't going to allow this to be a cold case. Just look at all the other murders that go unsolved....the victims are just regular folks or down and outers AND no extended family gets on to the media and keeps the heat up. Considering the knife sheath was there from the start and he used his own car which was caught on camera.....should this be a difficult case to solve?

What a difference in investigators between this case and the double murder in Delphi Indiana.

@jessiedv1247

Жыл бұрын

For real lol and im not even sure they’re really finished with that case yet tbh

@JM-pf5np

Жыл бұрын

That’s cause FBI was in on this case rather than jus the local PD

@ET-fk8ty

Жыл бұрын

How the suspect Richard Allen fell through the cracks for almost 6 years in the Delphi murders is beyond comprehension. The cops must have come straight out of kindergarten.

@earnold1896

Жыл бұрын

@@ET-fk8ty... watch image analysis & detection videos on that.

@tmayorca8770

Жыл бұрын

There's a double stabbing home invasion murder in Oregon last year that didn't get attention but this guy may now be a suspect.

Best info yet!

Just want to say excellent, efficient interview with a informative source

There isn't always a motive, sometimes they do it just because they wanted to or just because they like how it makes them feel.

@Real_Lion_of_Judah

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily a "specific" motive anyway. Psychopaths kill for the thrill of it. They don't feel empathy and have aggressive impulses.

@RZ-812

Жыл бұрын

Bet it was obsession

@Rowm222

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Sadly it’s typically specific acts/ details the perpetrators enjoy about it like the power, the fight, the adrenaline… they don’t see killing someone as something of a crime, rather a sport, a high, a rush, a game with a score sheet. Who ever scores highest is coolest in their heads. They won’t feel bad because “it was just another human being, so what?” There’s no remorse, no regret, just perhaps hindsight of what they wished they did differently. Definitely he wanted to get away with it and be able to talk about it and blend in like the wolf in sheeps clothing he is… I feel that’s what would have been anything close to a motive too, being able to act out what he’s researched and studied, get away with it and talk about it. I also feel if a long enough period of time would have passed he would’ve killed again. It’s seriously just the joy of killing for them, and getting away with it or at least thinking they will. Although I must also say, ppl like him will happily accept the fact they got caught and narcissistically enjoy the recognition and “notoriety” off the title they will now receive. Sad. All in all, pointless.

@Evolution14387

Жыл бұрын

I can relate

@sandrarenner4402

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Great interview. The killer is dumb. This detective is experienced and smart. Detectives like this will always outsmart and catch narcissists. This case should represent the Death of the Serial Killer. This is not the 70s anymore.

@jasonvoorhees5640

Жыл бұрын

this isn't a tv show kid

@NotReallyAya.

Жыл бұрын

Period. Serial killers only worked because it was no DNA, no cameras, none of the technology we have today. To think he was actually doing to get away with this is idiotic. It’s kind of annoying people are saying he’s smart just for evading the police for a few months.

@calliopelove

Жыл бұрын

lol

@meghancass3187

Жыл бұрын

According to the FBI there are 50 serial killers at large in the US at any given time.

@asimpleguy9667

Жыл бұрын

@@NotReallyAya. there can be active serial killers to date too, because the law enforcement has so many loop holes and not all crimes go solved

"The boy ain't right." I love that detective!

Reminds me of the story of the crying wolf. The house was loud , had many noise complaints , the night it fell still the perhaps loud sounds were ignored. Breaks my heart. The neighbour's must have developed selective hearing and thought nothing of it. Not even the roommates realized what was going on.

MPD was very smart to realize they needed state and federal help to investigate this. Contrast with Boulder's handling of the Ramsey case in which they refused help and botched the investigation.

We want to know more about that “inexperienced” detective who was young and was investigating his first murders(s). He has a bright future!!!!

@alyssa2796

Жыл бұрын

I know right, he might be a pro in the future

Very smart guy, this former detective that is. I much appreciated his viewpoint and delivery.

Well done, great questions...even better responses

Thanks guys for solving this case bless your Families and hope the victims Family can live in hopes of knowing this guy wont be able to hurt any further

"THE BOY AIN'T RIGHT"

@nouseforafap

Жыл бұрын

January and already the boy aint right

In my opinion-Bryan used himself as his own test subject in exploring thoughts and feelings regarding committing the crime. He obviously is getting something out of studying, and researching such actions-to the point of perseverating-which most likely led to his wanting to have these thoughts and feelings himself.

5:35 - "The boy ain't right." Thanks for summing it up in a single sentence better than I've heard it so far.

That police department did an amazing job & everyone else involved ! I knew they were holding onto a lot of info they were just trying to gather evidence to make the charges stick you only get one chance to do it so Justice can be served . They had his name 2 weeks within the crime . They were not sharing so he wouldn’t be spooked or him go on the run.

@allendracabal0819

Жыл бұрын

They had his name just after two weeks, but they undoubtedly had LOTS of names at that point in the investigation. It wasn't until later that they narrowed in on him.

@ariadneschild8460

Жыл бұрын

They weren't sharing bc it's a law in Idaho, I think more states need it to protect investigation integrity.