FORM COMPARISON!! Why can I throw 100 feet further than Casey??
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This video is packed with stuff :) We didn't really have any plans but spontaneously met up at Old Gregs private course in NH and I brought the camera along, of course! We tried answering some of the more requested tips and tricks and had a bunch of fun with ace runs and faces in the trees. Hope you enjoy!
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13:30 - Slow-mo montage 3:27 - Form comparison 14:14 - How to do the Simon disc-flip
Best ever Shot of the Day.
@blueboy2727
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the tree run backflip guy.
@muckertheblimp1874
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@tdunn779
Жыл бұрын
Sure about that? Eagle McMahon’s called roller jump up the root on the ground into the basket ace. Very well could have been Casey’s shot bc they were both there, can’t remember exactly
Simon makes me so happy.
@GaySex-yx9iq
4 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Wow great video
That shot of the day was sick
@darkenedshadow1285
4 жыл бұрын
@reelkena exactly
Really enjoyed this one, It’s kinda like a variety show, there’s a bit of everything in it.
Best vid yet fellas! We learned something practical AND something fun. We got to enjoy the sheer beauty of forest and flight, and see those happy faces scoring aces :) - thank you very much
Best shot of the day ever!!!🥰
The shot of the day, always makes me smile. Thank you for always putting out great content!!!!!
Simon is brilliant! The Midas of disc golf vlogging! I will stay tuned for the rest of this series as you make Casey throw 600’ too! Thank you for being awesome!
SIMON, casey is like your partner now in these vids and contributed well to the content and view, you should throw his social medias in the description and a pop tag
@jacksonpalmer8955
3 жыл бұрын
He helped get casey a sponsorship with discmania if that counts for anything
Thanks for the constant content simon, much love from michigan 💚
You continue to teach me something new every video! Thanks for taking the time to help everyone be their best!
Casey is learning how to be a great personality in disc golf from one of the top players and entertainers.
One major difference that I notice which results in the minor rounding on Casey's reach back and pull through and the difference in look of shoulder position when comparing frame by frame is Casey's shoulders are rolled forward/collapsed chest while you have more squared shoulders/expanded chest. Removing that rounding of the shoulders/collapsing of the chest could help with having a more away from body/linear reach back position and straight forward pull through
@TBJPKERS1
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the observation
@jeffwells641
4 жыл бұрын
Casey squares up by the end of the throw, which is great. I think if he started standing straighter from the beginning and being more squared up from the get-go it would probably go a long way to keep from over-rotating and rounding the disc.
@monke12355
3 жыл бұрын
He talked about that🤦♂️
@andrewarn5322
3 жыл бұрын
It was guessed that the extended reach back on Casey was a limiting factor but I think it's actually potential for max distance in the future, if these other comments of squareness and shoulder posture are achieved. I think the true take away from this observation is actually for you Simon, that if you reach back a little further (might add 100ms to your throw) that you may actually see an improvement.
@ryanmorgan409
3 жыл бұрын
since the question is essentially “where’s the missing power?” Here’s my take: Lower body strength/athleticism. Notice Simon squats more in his walk up thereby loading his legs and glutes and maintains a more athletic posture. Casey, at the moment, isn’t doing that as much. And, whatever form critique there may be, I think it’s all symptomatic of lacking lower body strength/support. I’d love to see Casey have the ability to bomb 600+ to compliment his great woods play.
Thanks for the spin tutorial.... so cool! “I wanna be like Simon!” 😎😎😎. I’ll have to take your word for how good it feels retrieving an ace disc from the basket... 😳
Simon, you are crushing the vlog game. Enjoy all the videos.
I love the shoot of the day on this one! A father and son best moment! Blesses my heart. I have 4 sons, 3 old enough to play DG with.
Thanks Simon. Form comparison is a great tool for becoming a better disc golfer.
You don’t know how deep I’ve searched trying to figure out how you do the disc flip I practiced it for a bit and kinda was doing it how you do it but this video makes me so happy awesome form comparison and finally I learn from the man himself how to do the disc flip awesome stuff!
@S4tanMW3
4 жыл бұрын
what is the reason for doing the disc flip?
@user-vl2zh6bj6x
3 жыл бұрын
@@S4tanMW3 like twirling your pen or pencil during a test, of course
Love this comparisons, my favourite content from you :D This is so helpful for me as a noob too. I can not throw far yet but I'm practising, and I feel progress from when I started to throw like 130-160 feet, to now throwing 200feet+ consistently. :D and on good shots I throw up top 260-270 feet :D Awesome content Simon, thank you !
@batingbunnies
4 жыл бұрын
You may potentially need to use lighter discs. If you go drastically lighter, more than like 15 g id say get something slightly more stable as well
I love the shot of the day portion of your videos! Awesome vlog overall as always!
Your uploads are great...all of them. Keep posting stuff. You are great at explaining things in an understandable way.
This is a really good breakdown. Just watching and taking screenshots of the pauses has helped me. I noticed neither one of you fully extended your arm, which is something I do and I actually feel it hurts my distance. Now I need yo go throw a bunch of discs to re-invent my throw Thanks guys
I love that you do the shot of the day - this one is so cool! Great content overall.
Really enjoying your chill vlogs and awesome tips. Going out to the course right now to play/practice!
Treebeard Slow mo transition was on point!
I love all the shot of the days but this one touched my heart....awesomeness...nice aces also...I wanna play a round with this Old Greg
I loved the form breakdown!! Would love to see more of that! Another awesome video!
Simon I love watching you play dude. It just looks effortless. Great videos as always brother
Fun video and that shot of the day was the best so far. Take it easy with your elbow:) Gotta be ready to get back on the road soon
Keep these coming! Thanks for spreading the stoke of DiscGolf! 🤟
Your content is top notch. All of your videos are so memorable, but this video was my favorite. Well done, young man.
So apparently you can explain it better. Nice work! Yeah, I see 5 main things. The 4 you pointed out, disc movement before reach back, reach back position, right foot "snap", and shoulder turn timing...and one you didn't, left foot release. The shoulder turn timing, and foot release will be what I work on a bit. Waiting for the shoulders to engage makes total sense, the longer you can delay that puts more energy into the release of the disc. I know I drag my left foot a bit, but I think if my right foot flips quicker I'll be able not do that as much. Awesome job guys. And for real, he's only 19!?! I expect to see him on tour in a year or two if that's what the young man wants to do.
Thank you for being you. Always a treat when there's a new vlog. Great tips and always entertaining. Prost mein freund. 😁🤙
Thank you for sharing your tips on improving form!!
Super helpful. Thanks Simon
Thanks for the disc flip tutorial. And everything else!
HAND FLIP TUTORIAL!! You’re awesome dude. BIG THANKS 😁❤️
Love all of this! How fun 🥏⛓💥 Shot of the day was 🔥💗
You guys are awesome...thanks for all the cool shots and information.
Excellent form analysis. Keep 'em coming.
Love the video! As for why you throw further it looks to be two main things... 1) Weight distribution- Simon keeps his weight back a split second further but it makes all the difference in any swing. If you pause at 7:55 you can see Casey’s weight is further out front in the same part of his back swing than Simon’s. 2) 12:20ish mark Simon hits the nail on the head. Casey reaches around his body which means his arm has further to travel and in a rounded motion. Simon is straight back therefore nearly no amount of movement is wasted and all of the body’s kinetic energy is going straight toward the target.
Your shot of the day makes me smile every time
The illusion is an example of the leaning tower optical illusion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaning_tower_illusion
@AlexCue
4 жыл бұрын
This one always breaks my brain. 🤯
@simenkjernlie9511
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is wild
That breakdown was amazing. You would be an excellent coach Simon! Thanks for the content brother, stay safe.
Simon, at around 8:20 ish, when breaking down you and Casey, LOOK AT THE SHADOWS! It's a dead tell on what your describing about reaching to far behind. Another great vid brotha!!
I think this is your best video yet. Keep up the great work!!
one of the best vlogs yet hands down!
Thank you so much for this video! It really helped point out some of the same things I do wrong with my own shot!
Simon, this is a great video! Very well done and lots of fun! Well played sir and thanks for the content!
Hi Simon, Awesome video. I think the reason Casey 's disc ends up behind his body on the reach back is because he reaches straight back like (like I was taught). When he makes his power move he steps across the line which puts the disc inside the line but because he's 19, flexible, and athletic he can bend his body to let the disc pass below his torso. But this puts some of his body mass outside the line which is why he ends up with weight over his toes when he spins out on the follow through. You do the opposite. You reach out to the line you are throwing on, step up to it on your power move and effectively pull the disc in towards your center of mass. This keeps your weight inside and encourages you to rotate over your heel. Do it it slowmo and it will make sense. This should give me something to do for the rest of the summer. The reason the views appear different is that the the camera is aimed at the center of the fairway (the line you are throwing on) not the tee pad. Your eyes want to line up the edge of the tee pad with the light dot in the gap of the trees. The center of the frame is actually behind the thrower.
So glad I got notifications on for when you post.
Impressive form, good job Simon
Schönes Video. Danke für die erklärung des "Tricks". Bleibt Gesund und hoffentlich geht es bald wieder los mit Turnieren.
The form comparison was so helpful ! Thank you
Great content, very helpful Simon!
Hell yeah! Truly best shot of the day!!
great points, so helpful!!
Man as soon as the tournaments start back up Casey needs to tag along with you! Hes a legit player!
@hlg_theshepherd2873
3 жыл бұрын
10 months later hes had some good finishes!
Shot of the Day was too cool.Whole video is really good. The form comparison is great information. Well done.
Liked for shot of the day, keep it going!
Learned the disc spin from your Instagram and have been using it ever since! Great Vid!
Awesome shot of the day!!!
Thanks for all the work u do
I think we are all lucky that you are such a bad ass at disc golf and great at this whole KZread thing!!!
Next level content and next level shot of the day!
Right after that comparison. I couldn't get my eyes off Casey's hand when he throws. I used to have the same. Now I am focusing more on how I pull my hand. Still, my shots are too high though. Thank you Simon for all these lessons. All of the tips helped me as a beginner so much.
That shot of the day was fantastic!!
Awesome breakdown. I’ve played for years but basically as an exclusively forehand player. I’m just now trying to learn backhand and finding it way less intuitive. I can drive 350-400 forehand but only about 200 backhand because I have 0 technique. So videos like this are absolutely awesome.
One of the best feelings in disc golf is grabbing your ace disc from basket. Another one is hitting the eagle throw after messing up the drive. Couple days ago I did it with my putter from about 50 meters, high hyzer throw going far right along a thin gap in the woods and then coming back left, straight in the basket.
I remember that insta video!!! Love that spin!
Casey is rounding. And wow is he a good golfer! At 19!
Really really good analysis.
Great observation and description
Simon thanks again for good tips 👍😉
i know that nowadays most of us expect a basic english knowledge, so for those who understand this video is gold (thanks simon for time spend). I know a lot of persons who play discgolf and would gain so much from this video if they could understand. Was ich somit sagen will ist: Simon bitte übersetze dieses video auf deutsch und auf sonstige Sprachen die du sprechen kannst. Das wäre eine große Hilfe für die Community und diejenigen die nicht so gut englisch sprechen. Vielen Dank und grüße aus Wien.
Best dg videos comes from you! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I just bought a brand new putter D-line P2 I'm loving that putter cant wait to get the skygod 3
Check out the shadow on the tee pad during the form comparison. The sun is perfect to see the difference in the disc movement!
He’s only 19?!?
@jswain1809ify
4 жыл бұрын
Right!? I was thinking the same thing when he said that!!
@ptbfrch
4 жыл бұрын
He carries himself in a really impressive way for a 19yo person. Impressive.
@Lmnop1941
4 жыл бұрын
He looks 19 idk why this is so surprising
@patvogt9660
4 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments for this
@subspaceanomaly
4 жыл бұрын
@@ptbfrch there are 19 year olds who have been in wars and then built their own homes and had kids. Casey seems pretty young but very good natured.
Great stuff. Thanks.
Def worth a double watch!!
Thanks so much Simon! I can certainly use an extra 100 feet on my shots! 😎
When you were talking about the reach backward you can also look at the shadows on the ground and see the difference in distance from the disc to the body 👍🏽
What a video. Thanks for the disc flip explanation!!! Finally...lol
Dear Simon, Thanks for another supercalifragilisticexpialidocious video! 🔴⚪️🥏😷🙏🏻
Simon, it would be great to see/hear your form analysis from an overhead shot. Don't recall seeing that anywhere before, but I think it would provide a lot of insight into the physics of the throw. Also, slo-mo video option might provide more detail.
the perspective illusion at 3:57, simplest explanation. I reckon there's 2 effects happening. part 1 (easy): the two teepads are oriented the same, but the right teepad's left edge & the left teepad's right edge actually are pointing away from each other. Our brains wrongly assume the direction of the entire teepads based on that comparison (since those edges are the closest together). part 2 (also easy but verbose): Imagine standing somewhere with 2 teepads a few feet apart pointing directly away from you. You look at one, and it's pointing directly away from you. You turn to look at the other and it's also pointing directly away from you. Picture it in your head. Those two teepads wouldn't be parallel with each other-the one on the left would be pointing slightly left, the one on the right pointing right, in order for them both to point away from you. When we see two teepads with the exact same orientation relative to our perspective, our brain understands that actually, they're pointing slightly away from each other. Same thing going on here. Brain sees two tees with same orientation relative to our "perspective", deduces that actually they must be pointing a bit away from each other.
@ts4gv
8 ай бұрын
note for nerds: the reason part 2 takes effect here is because the frame contains depth information. Things that are far away are smaller. If we were looking at purely isometric footage (picture Rollercoaster Tycoon 2), or just a sketch of two teepads, our brains wouldn't bother placing our perspectives in 3D space for the 2nd effect to really kick in.
I agree with Jeff. If he moves his elbow back it will open his shoulders and square his hips. Furthermore, he should really learn to pivot on his right heel at the release point. In this video his right knee takes all the torque of the shot. Even in regular speed you see his knee kinda buckle at the release point. Enough of those and he'll blow his knee because his foot is planted perpendicular to the release angle. Loved the video!!!! Keep'em coming guys!!
Hey Simon. I was just re-watching this video. When you were critiquing your throws, I noticed your shadows on the t-pad, showed the difference in your reach backs.
Thanks for the spin lesson, I'm going to master it sitting home too much.
Wow that breakdown was really helpful b/c I too tend to have a lot of movement of my reach back and lean a bit more over on my releases similar to Casey, but I’m gonna try to keep the disc steady on my reach back and keep my back straighter. Thanks Simon! Btw Shot of the day was epic!
16:35: Me when my friend nices my disc and it hits a tree
Nice shot of the day 👌
love the slowmo disc flip hahaha
Hey Simon, I'm wondering if you can do a video giving tips on throwing uphill. I live in Colorado and would love to see a breakdown of your approach to this with some video examples
Great video Simon : )
The tee pad thing is definitely an optical illusion. If you cover either the left side of both tee pads or the right side of both tee pads, the uncovered sides suddenly look parallel. This optical illusion happens when you put two lines at slightly different angles near each other - our brain does weird things to try to reconcile what it's seeing and sometimes it doesn't work out so well. The Greeks used this fact to their advantage when building the Parthenon by building their columns with a bulge in the center (among many, many other tricks). This counteracted the tendency of our brains to view parallel lines as slimming in the middle, which would make the columns look slender and anemic rather than straight and stout.
Fun video, thanks Simon. Take care of that elbow!
Thanks for the form comparison. I’d like to see one where you’re both throwing distance shots to see if the difference is still the same or different.