The #1 Reason you STRUGGLE with DISTANCE in Disc Golf
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This is the hardest thing for me to learn. Such a balancing act in order to learn that stability and core strength.
@chrism4008
10 ай бұрын
I started thinking of it more like a set of dance steps. I started out standstill which was a little bit of a mistake, made adding the steps a little harder. That being said, the biggest help was slowing down, extremely slow to start, and as i get comfortable ive naturally sped up. Im getting to the point where im finally starting to put it all together
@JJGlyph
8 ай бұрын
@@chrism4008 A one-stepper definitely helps learn this better than complete stand-still.
@BLaymon060
Ай бұрын
I've tried and can't ever get it all forearm for me
@HakaMataFaka
7 күн бұрын
I hate it when people mention strength in disc golf, you dont need strength at all in this sport, you need explosiveness and spin wich is techique, nothind to do with how much you lift
This is your best video so far! I really like how you broke it down into what the coil should feel like in each step of the throw. Thank you!
Can’t express the gratitude I have for you Coach!! Went from max 290 to 450 over the last 5 months of your videos and lots of mirror time and field work. Also knocked about 13 strokes on average off my scores!! You rock Coach!! Slingshots for the world!!
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Slingshots for the world! 😂 thanks for watching! I appreciate you
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Slingshots for the world! 😂 thanks for watching! I appreciate you
@tommybarrilleaux5197
10 ай бұрын
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 We appreciate you as well.
@tommybarrilleaux5197
10 ай бұрын
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 I’m 43, so if I can do it so can all these young people.
Thank you! The coiling drills have been a game changer to feeling the tension in the core and back leg
Loving Sling Shot Disc Golf. I've been playing since 88'. I am 53 now and am learning so much more in the past few years than I did in the first 32 thanx to people who can break it down like this. This is one of the more advanced power pocket explanations ever. Ty and keep up the great work. Peace ✌️ ☮️
@GustavoSantos-gz7uj
7 ай бұрын
Thanks to the Internet lol
Love this. You have completely changed my game this summer. 300-420 in just a few months. Thank you for your wisdom! And having the humility to pass it on to us!
Good stuff - I really like the bits about not overlengthening hips and shoulders. I'll have to remember that. Like a lot of sports, it's about working and leading from the ground up and shoulders working to create separation instead of power.
I've just watched the video and this will help me a ton! I laughed so hard when u were standing straight 'cause it was like I looked straight into a mirror! I'm going to watch your video on the training/soccer course and train on this! TYVM! Love from Norway!
This was extremely helpful for me. Thank you.
Great video! Finally actually understanding how to use the hip power
So, been out with an injury for a while. so spent time looking at vids of technique, then I stumbled across you......... and realised that everything you were say is what I was doing!! so Ive applied what I learnt from your vid. march 22, 222 ft with my proxy. last week first full blooded throws post injury (still just with putters) and twice hit 288ft with my proxy and also with no lower hip/back discomfort.... cant wait to see what distance I put onto the fds/hsd's. thanks for the vid!!!
I just have to say thank you Mr. Slingshot man. I was forehand dominant for the past 3 years. I got tired of throwing out my shoulder and elbow every summer and decided this year was the year to learn backhand. I discovered your videos pretty early in the year and they have helped me immensely. I can drive 400' forehand and now also backhand thanks to you. Now you just gotta teach me how to putt 😂.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
I’m awful at putting but I’m working on an upshot video!
Something I would also add and check out, Mcbeth does it on most of his throws, just not in this slo mo and others pros talk about it and you can see it in their form is the leg placement. They are not in line with each other like what you are doing in this video. The front leg is staggered a little bit. Basically have the front heel line up with their back toe. Makes you engage your hips/core more and also makes it a lot easier to coil.
Great work coach T. I think your on the right track with everything. Your teaching style most people need but few teach.
@adamp462
9 ай бұрын
Check out some of Gannon burhs videos. I’ve been playing 20 years and after seeing a 20 second clip I went and parked 5 holes that I wouldn’t have ever imagined possible for me the day before. Went from a 300’ driver to 450+ after a 20 second explanation
One of the problems is most people are too stiff so they cheat by using the shoulders instead of developing hip shoulder separation and actually getting coiled.
This is the best advice I've seen in a while. Especially the part about bending knee being more important than big reachback/shoulder turn.
I am so back and forth with my form and what I focus on but just randomly catching you saying "back knee bent..." struck a chord. Game changer, was definitely feeling closer to how all of this comes together today, moving forward! Thanks for all your videos and information!
Bending the knees and leverage is key, bending those knees is something I need to focus on.
Great video thank for the thinking of the body cooling for my golfing the nature way
Thanks. I like your videos :) Glad I found you
This makes sense. In fact I was intuitively crouching more already after having watched Albert Tamm in the distance competition. It's really obvious with Albert because of his height, the crouching is really apparent, give him a watch! Key is the crouch!
Awesome vid, now i have some exercises to start with! Even after 30+ years of dg I still need all the help I can get!
Thank you for this breakdown! Im gonna work on this. Your videos inspired me to change my form and this is the step i need to work on
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and I hope it helps!
Good stuff as always
I think this make sense. Should try to work on this. Thanks man
Dude I just got into disc like 2 months ago, have a history in ultimate in highschool and baseball and have been struggling with distance and form. Watching tons of videos and yours have actually been noticeably helping me throw straighter, a little bit farther I would say and not throw out my arm and shoulder which I’ve already done on a few weekends out in the woods! Thank you!
@playdiscgolf1546
10 ай бұрын
I also played baseball. But batted right handed. So I can throw a 400’ forehand but can barely hit 300’ with the backhand if I’m lucky.. lol
@loganmaus2170
10 ай бұрын
@@playdiscgolf1546 I got lucky with that batting lefty & throwing righty.
@adamp462
9 ай бұрын
Lol I always wondered why my form was so much better with left hand drives being a right handed then I put two and two together about being a pitcher in little league
@adamp462
9 ай бұрын
Very similar leg hip and core build up and transfer
“I’m exhausted just doing this…because I’m an athlete.”
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
I should have said out of shape ex athlete making an athletic movement
@deepsender
10 ай бұрын
When I have been in my best shape, I get more winded because it's that much more muscle moving and flexing.
love this! explains what Im missing!!
You have helped me a lot with my backhand. I have always been forehand dominant player and can throw it constantly over 430ft and my bachand was stuk at 360ft so i didnt feel that i need it that mutch but couple a weeks ago i started just fooling around whit my backhand and started breaking rules of throwing that i had in my head. I put my frontleg heel straight at throwing direction and turned my shoulderline 180° to the target and disc just ripped out of ny fingers. I got so meny thorws over 460ft and it was so easy to aim for some reason. What you think that happened? Did i finaly get my upper body timing right? I think there is mutch to gain with more legs and hips but this feels so good right now that i dont want mes it too mutch. Your video of the grip was also one of the keymakers in my backhand!
Yep! I have this very problem. My disc is high on my chest at release just like you demonstrated at 2:25. I'm turning but not coiling. This really explained the issue well. One of the issues I have is that the disc rarely rips away from my hand. I just can't get passed 320.
Spot on!
Such a great video! Thank you sir! In my opinion, this is the BIGGEST reason players struggle with distance
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
2 ай бұрын
I agree!
excellent stuff!
Workout for mobility AND strength with Kettlebells and your gsme will inprove. There are plenty of drills for form but what I see ln the course in 90% of people dont understand how to actually move their body and are massively off balance. Slam balls are great for disc golf training an a lot of resistance band work can help as well. I really like that you pointed out how being on the heel is a great detriment as well. Ive been training my feet in many ways and speednoff the heel abd on to the toe is a separator in the athletics world.
The “Baseball left handed” has to be the best analogy in disc golf. I always tried explaining why I started playing left handed because of baseball/ other sports. Eventually switched to righty, but man, that’s analogy hits home.
@dr.dnfrepeet1354
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean "baseball left handed" because I played ball into my early twenties which I thought would have given me an edge but as of late been considering starting over lefty. Especially with the forehand. Which I've even considered stopping altogether. Any help? Appreciated. Thnx
I can’t sleep I’m so excited to work on my form. I’ve always had poor form, and would throw 300-320 feet. But recently, for about a week I started throwing 380 feet, But it went away.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
22 күн бұрын
I used to go to sleep visualizing form and what I was going to work on the next day. I couldn't sleep either!!
Still the best in the business by far when it comes to teaching in a way anyone can understand.
I watch some of your vids and I am curious about this one. I've been trying to emulate Cole Redalen's form and my best/most effortless throws are when I get my shoulders close to 180. Many other form videos highlight the shoulder turn. Is this possibly a tip that varies for different individuals? I throw Wraiths about 430' with perfect throws going around 460' for reference.
Nice vid. Thanks...and yhea I´m stuck in a 329ft...Let´s coil
Paul does this because he like to look at his target and it has more to do withhis shoulder position. While what you are saying is correct, the reason people don't get it is because you are teaching in the wrong direction. Teach people the release first and work backwards so people can build into it. Once folks understand the release, it is easier to teach the the coil because they know the position they need to get too. Lastly, the coil is for the legs. The spin starts in the hips, the coil prevents energy from being lost as you start yor spin.
Awesome coach T 🔥
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike!
"I got all of that one" is my favorite part
This is money coach, whenever I get people to throw 300-350 stand still, this concept is the most important for effortless performance. Usually it’s a multi-chain issue but the concept of loading and coil at the same time, and having that off side engagement start the throw is so crucial! Love it! Slingshots for everybody!
In the moment, things are too fast, I find it hard to coil so I have been holding a coiled position from the start. Works great, but it's awkward and not ideal. This looks like a good excercise to move past that. 👍
This makes so much sense
This was the bane of my drive. Also leads to horrible accuracy and inconsistency. Great topic coach!!
@impasta928
10 ай бұрын
5:29
I always thought about turning my shoulders, not my core. Interesting
You having fun is still you being super intense, lol. Me too man, me too.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
8 ай бұрын
I can’t help it 😂
I crush that first position so well. But if I barely turn/ Ala coil since I’m old and not flexible I rip the disc out while it feels like I did nothing
I know it is bad but I am more or less stuck at 325. I honestly have not been working too much on my form. I need to work on it this off season. ty for your videos. I need to keep those legs bent. Question though. I assume that we want tight abs but we want to try and keep our upper body and arm loose right?
I find myself struggling with my body momentum moving forward against the coil. I'm working through it but it is the most difficult aspect of the throw for me. I feel like I'm lagging too much
Thank you!
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Thank you
Holy smokes! This has instantly put me 80 more feet off the cuff! I’m not consistent with it yet but bro! Thanks for the tips! I’m gonna get to 400 for sure now! I threw one 360 with this method and I almost crapped my pants with excitement! 😂😂😂😂😂
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
😂 happy it helped!
are you initiating the sling or "uncoiling" with the knee first then the fast twitch muscles with arm or are both supposed to happen at the same time?
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
I will be making a video on this comment!
The hardest part for me, has been “stepping in the bucket”. Much like baseball. My mind wants me to throw too early, before my foot is planted.
I'm a little more than a month into disc golf. You're the best instructor on KZread by far. I'm already throwing 250-300 consistently, just need to work on coiling a bit more and I'll be over 300, hoping to be there by the end of summer. For winter I plan on setting up one of those nets in my apartment and filming my form to improve even in the off season.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Hopefully I can continue to help
How can this be applied to a forehand throw?
It is when you understand this truly, that you get motivated to do them abs.
Do you like Cole Redalen's rear hip move while he is on his X step???
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
I will take a look and get back to you!
I’m an ma50 player. I play with 20 year olds and 70 year olds. Once you get old, form/timing is everything. When young guys work on their form, and just go get it, they’re intimidating to play with. I can throw pretty fat and really good. I can’t throw it super far like the young guys I play with. It’s really just impressive. Get in there, young guys!!
@joshuasmith9528
10 ай бұрын
*pretty FAR. Sometimes I throw fat too.
At age 41 how do I relearn new habitats? I watch these and know exactly what I should do but on a round I revert back to my old habits of falling over my front leg. Drives me CRAZY.
@brandongreen9381
8 ай бұрын
This is what helped me, go to a field and do the coil technique like in the video from a standstill without a disc in hand , do that for 10 mins and then add a disc, throw using the technique from a standstill to get used to the coil, this may take some time for the body to remember the action, it took me close to 40 mins till I fully got it. After that add the approach with the coil, do that till your comfortable with this coil technique, if you are having trouble just go back a step and practice the coil some more, it also helps to film yourself and watch it back in slow motion to see exactly where the problem is in the coil. Hope this may help you.
@conornixon9560
10 күн бұрын
Try resistance bands
It’s really all about finding the discs that fit your style and form, and throwing smooth and slow. It’s super easy. Haha.
Holy shit😮….It’s a fucking baseball swing. I’m 3 rounds into playing this game and I feel like I’ve just been given a huge shortcut to progression. 🤯
I workout, I box, I have really strong legs, so it's frustrating not getting distance with my throws. My current snag I think it's nose angle. I get some good rips on my disc every now and then, a loud snap and the disc is zipping down the fairway thanks to watching these videos. But I can always see the stamp on top of the disc and my flight paths are borked because it's just immediately slowing down and hyzering out. Ironically when there is a strong head wind is when I get my most distance, I think it forces the nose down a bit. I have really bad mobility in my right wrist so I wonder if that is the issue since it's hard to 'pour the coffee'
@cupbowlspoonforkknif
10 ай бұрын
Could not enough spin be the problem since your discs are losing stability too soon and you've said your wrist isn't right?
@ViJt-oq5nq
8 ай бұрын
Look at arm path, see if you're reaching back low and swinging upwards. If path is good, then it probably can be grip. Pouring tea gets you half way there, having a grip to compliment it is the other. There's a couple videos giving ideas for how to grip it nose down and after playing around with so many different ways to position my fingers I found one that works after months of struggling with nose angle. I kinda have my thumb and index pushing the nose down with the middle and ring finger further back pushing the back up.
I have a baseball bat swing type of throw and it makes these videos hard to figure out how to implement for me. I feel like coiling could help but need to try it. If you have any explanation on how to implement it, I'd appreciate it.
@playdiscgolf1546
10 ай бұрын
If you can bat left handed, the mechanics are very similar
@triplespace007
10 ай бұрын
@@playdiscgolf1546 I'm right handed though
What is that drive catcher net model?
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Skills Net
I have to be totally honest... I watch a ton of these videos that seem to be extremely helpful to every single person that comments. But I cannot ever relate to a single one of them, I dont understand how any of the concepts or terminology ultimately relates to disc golf, or any real disc golf technique in general
Sitting on the ground to feel the coil in your core. 🤦♂️ its so simple its stupid but incredibly helpful
Thanks for this great instructional video!. Focusing on the important check points on the disc golf throw can be the difference from doing it wrong to WOW!, the best result possible!!. I will practice this over and over, and over again. All one needs to improve, is not only to practice the fundamentals you have pointed out here, make a video of yourself doing the sling shot coil process, and you will enjoy disc golf to the max. Merry Christmas my friend!☺Hopefully this video is the best Christmas present any disc golfer could ask for!☺Sincerely, Bill M., PDGA #7378
when i easy drive 320m in golf but can hardly throw 100m in discgolf is infuriating xD
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
2 ай бұрын
💯
Go Ducks!! also this video was very helpful
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Let’s gooo ducks!!!
Notice that Paul is wearing Jimmy's Training shoes. Oh ya Jimmy couldn't throw at all before he got these. Jimmy, was like you.
@cheebateam
8 ай бұрын
Those shoes are for jumping....
You know... can't believe how much easier it is to load up by just getting lower than I was.
The confusing thing is I just watched a video where Joel was telling me that I needed to open up my hips more
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
6 күн бұрын
I would do what he says first. I’m just here if nothing else works.
@DBZSeanzie
5 күн бұрын
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 I’ll try to hit the course today! 🤙🏼
Damn, I have to dye myself some Ducks discs!
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
9 ай бұрын
Let's go ducks!!!
I hear from pros that being at 180 is a must for unlocking more D. What works for the goose isn’t good for the flock.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Yes max distances increases if you can get to 180 like the pros. But remember a lot of people lack the flexibility to do so.
@SaucyAustie
10 ай бұрын
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 Ahh got ya. Thank you for elaborating.
@njott1021
10 ай бұрын
The closer you get to 180, the more complicated the timing process becomes. By the time you learn the mechanics, you'll know what you need to do to get to 180
@playdiscgolf1546
10 ай бұрын
They’re doing the 180, but the power is still coming from the hips. A lot of amateurs are using only the shoulders, with no hip movement.
Bizzaro Clint Clints reptiles.
He’s an athlete
Idk if I’m an athlete or not 😕
Nothing matters if you dont find and use the kinetic chain. when you find it it all make sense. you cant teach someone how to paint by telling them how to use the muscles in the fingers
You son of a bitch. I'm in. ❤
I'm sorry this seems wrong, double coil, first coil this then coil that. In full speed you can't coil like that
@tonyriedel4421
10 ай бұрын
You can it's just very difficult to get everything right. Even at the pro level there are only a few like McBeth who make the coil move work. Honestly disc golf backhand is one of the more difficult sport moves to get right.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
You’re right. It’s one continuous fluid movement. I’m just providing a basic learning cue.
Nonsense... my coach said beer makes you better. He also liked saying the number 4 alot for some reason.
This guy reminds me of uncle Rico
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
I get that a lot lol
@yurapishwall4252
10 ай бұрын
@@slingshotdiscgolf1897 How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
Go Ducks!
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
16 күн бұрын
Let’s gooo
sign me up !
I'm not deep in this video. McBeth, his hips are still in line and his head is not back or forward but in line with the hips and follows.
Den-den daiko
Bro is so out of breath just showing the technique lol
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
36 years old and not conditioned 😂 . Also consider the amount of takes I’m doing that get edited out
There's a lot of nonsense language and wording in this video, but the difference between an open hip and coiling into the hip on the back leg was helpful. The rest unfortunately was word salad.
@slingshotdiscgolf1897
10 ай бұрын
Happy to help. Thanks for watching!
First :D
Aaron Judge's hitting style is the worst thing that has infiltrated baseball.
So, I don't like to tell people thier wrong, but I feel this is all wrong. First, Coach T I really appreciate your love for the community. So, I don't care how much you bend your knees, once you transfer your weight from back to front, your back foot de-weights. It's impossible to push off back foot if you transfer correctly. You can push from back foot while transferring weight to front. Another thing, seabass22 is the GOAT of discgolf mechanics and he doesn't teach coiling the core. Tjats dangerous. You shouldn't be out.of breath from showing us a drill but Coach T is always out of breath when he does this. Do you ever see pro breathing heavy? The backhand is not an exercise. The point is to make it as effortless as possible, not coiling the core and running out of breath after every throw. I'm sorry but I had to say something and I know you Coach T followers are going to give me some hate.
@michaelcushman
10 ай бұрын
Different isn't wrong. Different is different. Seabass22 uses a pendulum style (like a golf swing) Europeans spin like a figure skater (historically, but more leg compresion in younger throwers). Those methods move off the back leg fairly quickly. Slingshot style powers off the back leg, using a piston action of the shin forward and rotation coming from uncoiling the core. Imo, the pendulum takes the least energy and strength and is best for most amateurs, recreational players. Slingshot requires strong legs and core. It is only for the most serious who are willing to work on building their body's strength and mobility. If you can't squat on one leg, or at least come close, Slingshot style just won't work for you.
@daveslocum5625
10 ай бұрын
Exactly. There are def different ways and he’s out of breath bc he’s just showing a specific thing at the highest intensity just as an example. Coiling is where it’s at just like it is with every other sport
Do people buy this crap….. nexthe’s gonna tell me to start the lawnmower He thinks he profound
Blah blah blah. There's gotta be a more simple way of saying all this.
I’ll tell you what, the number one reason why I struggle with distance in disc golf is because I was feeding my sweet dog the other day, and decided to have him lick hummus off my hands for the first time. I didn’t think that he would even like it, but unfortunately he liked it so much that he started viciously biting my fingers off one by one very very, very bloody, very dramatic scene. My wife came in screaming hitting our dog over the head with a frying pan and he wouldn’t stop. Finally, I said, hey boy look there’s a squirrel and he ran away and released my hand ever since then, I have to hold the disc between my only two fingers left with her in my pinky and my second finger. my distance prolly dropped by 200 feet. maybe when I get the prosthetic fingers back from the laboratory I will watch this video and continue on my journey of becoming a professional disc golfer.
@blackoutdrive1
10 ай бұрын
Wow, incredible. Similar thing happened to me, cept it was my toes and cheeze wiz
@AlanS_DGC
10 ай бұрын
What the actual F.
@njott1021
10 ай бұрын
Disc golfers will come up with any excuse for their shit shot, smh
@jakeprahar2168
10 ай бұрын
Wow you’re insane .. blind john. Sorry to hear about your dogbites
@forrestthegoldendoodle7923
10 ай бұрын
Got you good
Maan, can't wait to drill this! Makes perfect sense. When I 'break the door down' with my elbow, I always get lower into my stance so I obviously need to focus more on maintaining that athletic stance throughout and, like you said, load up on the trail leg and EXPLODE! thank you