FORGOTTEN WEAPONS! The swords you DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
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There are hundreds of types of sword, knife and other historical weapons that you might not have heard of. In this video, we look at a couple of rare, or at least not widely known, swords.
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I wasn't prepared for all the Ian McCollum references, but I love his stuff and would certainly welcome a collaboration at some point.
@danblack7609
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an old what I think, and big emphasis on think here, is a ww2 German machete lying around. I could send you pictures if you’d want to use it for your mystery knife series.
@Immopimmo
3 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus vs Sword Buddha.
@Ordo1980
3 жыл бұрын
2:33 We were not a colony. Hungary was another main state in the Empire. Especially after 1887 + We had differences with the emperor before (eg. revolution in 1848), but on paper the emperor was a rightful King of Hungary as well through a hereditary connection - a Hungarian viewer
@Riceball01
3 жыл бұрын
If you're going to do a collaboration with good ol' Gun Jesus, you're going to need a lot more French weapons. lol
@WolfKenneth
3 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
Ian: "I sense a disturbance... as if thousands of voices cried out all at once, and then watched a video."
@GOREilla.
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO!
@brandonmiklaski86
3 жыл бұрын
Ha
The last one is what we brazilians call "Terçado" The "terçado" is a military tool/weapon in the middle ground between a Machete and a Knife, with a cross guard.
I know what it is, it's a Space Marine knife.
@MtRevDr
3 жыл бұрын
Guess the flat surface could have a mirror surface to reflect some death ray away.
@Blueswailer
3 жыл бұрын
Maim the Heretic! Purge the Xenos! For the Emperor!
@JinKee
3 жыл бұрын
@@Blueswailer BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GROOVE! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL POMMEL!
@Hubert_Cumberdale_
3 жыл бұрын
@@JinKee MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES!
@peterstoneberg7120
3 жыл бұрын
Astartes Opinel
From the overwhelming head hair of Ian to the absolute baldness of Matt.
@scholagladiatoria
3 жыл бұрын
Yin and Yang?
@LazyLifeIFreak
3 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria A collaboration would be absolutely fantastic!
@LamgiMari
3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLifeIFreak Subject suggestions? French bayonets?
@LazyLifeIFreak
3 жыл бұрын
@@LamgiMari Bayonets primary, maybe some of the weird shovel/trowel combination. Maybe the pike and shot era, I bet the guy from InrangeTV, whats-his-name, would love that being the black powderhuffer that he is, lovely guy.
@peterclarke7240
3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLifeIFreak You mean Karl? Any excuse for him to unload his mighty blunderbuss at something is always welcome!
Normally when I see a "Forgotten Weapons" alert on my KZread notifications I thunk guns rather than swords. I guess it all depends on the "Context" 🤣
@michaelshelton5488
3 жыл бұрын
Think guns, not "thunk" 🤣
@jojomarujo8704
3 жыл бұрын
Ha, half-asleep me think that Ian finally made a video reviewing a fancy bayonet of some sort, only to realize that i'm on the wrong channel .
"It cuts, it stabs, it smashes, it bashes, it hammers, it batons logs into planks, and can be used as a plate. The pioneer sword now available by mail order for three easy payments of..."
Looks like a decent choppa to me, down right orky dat is.
@thedeaderer8791
3 жыл бұрын
yaaassss lol
@ironox8480
3 жыл бұрын
Waaaaaagh!
@lukedogwalker
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking zombie apocalypse.
@user-yr5nv2gv7m
3 жыл бұрын
ogryn
@bentrieschmann
3 жыл бұрын
Waaagh!
My first guess: Is that a bayonet for a cannon??
@Baker_7498
3 жыл бұрын
must be Japanese then
@MidnightSt
3 жыл бұрын
"Drive my cannon closer, I want to see the whites of their eyeballs as they splash on my face!"
@Seallussus
3 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightSt, Commissar Fuklaw, is that you?
Austro-Hungarian M1853/89 Pioneer's sabre, I've been planning to do a video on that in the near future aswell comparing it to the M1915. Cheers from Austria! The maker is Striberny of Vienna, they made all sorts of military swords in the late 19th century.
@klauskuplen5563
3 жыл бұрын
"Faschinenmesser" It's not that hard to pronounce, even for an "Insloff"
Suggestion "The Obscure Armories" "Armamentaria Obscura" to stay with the scholagladiatoria theme
Seriously, would love to see you do a collaboration with McCollum over at Forgotten Weapons discussing exotic bayonets and 19th century rifles.
@SurmaSampo
3 жыл бұрын
Also the changes in tactics in response to weaponry advancement.
@howardchambers9679
3 жыл бұрын
Have to be French rifles..
That's not a fuller, THIS is a fuller! (Pulls out Austrian pioneer sword).
@JinKee
3 жыл бұрын
You could eat soup out of it
@Justanotherconsumer
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it should be a “fullest?”
@leomarin2205
3 жыл бұрын
i have one of this ,, in 1987 the militia confiscate me , becose in romania it.s notaloud to kip historical sword ,evan its found orr is family haritage ...
@hendrikvanleeuwen9110
3 жыл бұрын
@@leomarin2205 man, that is rough. What do they think you are going to do with it, start a civil war?
@leomarin2205
3 жыл бұрын
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 thay were afride thath :)) no longar come the 89 ..and my sword and the oficcer how take my sword disepiret .. fuck with tham ..
How about - “The unknown context” “Obscure context” “Lost context” Or “Matt Easton and the search for the lost context of the odd teardrop shaped spank paddle”?
@johnladuke6475
3 жыл бұрын
"Context Winners"
@AxiomIndustries
3 жыл бұрын
"Forgotten context"
Playlist name suggestion: the Armory Obscura
@spacewater7
3 жыл бұрын
Armouria Obscuria
@spacewater7
3 жыл бұрын
Armouria Obscura
Hey Matt have to start calling you Blade Jesus with all this forgotten stuff.
@Jaggaraz218
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe something like "Blade Buddha" would be more fit seeing the severe lack of hair
@OdachiForge
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaggaraz218 you beat me to it😂
@michaelbrostek5008
3 жыл бұрын
I think Skallagrim fits that title more, given his hair and beard.
@tonys8243
3 жыл бұрын
Tuukka Aaltonen ...you nailed it spot on 😀
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaggaraz218 yeah, all hail the blade Buddha
Came into this expecting to see Ian McCollum
@skoshman1
3 жыл бұрын
I am also expecting a video on the bladed tools and weapons of the Elbonia military at some point in the future.
That pioneer's sword is really well-designed for field work. It's heavy enough to use as an axe, or a hammer, but as a knife you can also carve with it, whether you're carving wood or the meat on a roast. Seems to me as thick as it is you can even use it like a pry bar. So it replaces all those, AND it's easier to carry in a sheath on your belt or hanging off your pack or something. Impressively utilitarian and compact space-saving design.
@keithbill310
10 ай бұрын
Have you ever used a knife as a crow bar ? NO
@stefthorman8548
10 ай бұрын
@@keithbill310do you know context? He said it looks thick enough to use as an pry bar, don't try to compare this to an little knife
@anthonyclark9159
Ай бұрын
@@stefthorman8548well let's not compare any knife to a crowbar, there have been many attempts, but when you really need a crowbar, only a crowbar will do.
"Forgotten Weapons" is already taken. Your style of going through history and design is quite similar to Ian's videos and quite engaging. I never thought I would enjoy listening to a discussion of an edged weapon, but I really do. You are rocking it. I literally clicked on this video because I thought it was a collab with Ian...which you should totally do.
"The point is that there is a point. And that is the point." Indeeed
@alexbaumans6493
3 жыл бұрын
A pointed remark.
@ondrejh571
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexbaumans6493 I could not resist pointing that out.
Script idea for a movie where Ian as Gun Jesus and Matt as Blade Buddha have to save the world from some 17th-18th century threat. Maybe zombie Napoleon. Set in France, so Ian can wear some cool hats.
I was really hoping for a parody of the forgotten weapons channel 😜 (still a good video so far though)
@skoshman1
3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad it wasn't. Not that I would mind, but getting a good Forgetton Weapons video is never a bad thing! (Even if it is missing Ian)
@poopsled
3 жыл бұрын
@@skoshman1 just imagine Matt with an Ian wig and mustache though 😜
@JinKee
3 жыл бұрын
@@poopsled needs to be set at an auction house with a lot of black table cloth.
Matt should totally review that famous russian shovel MPL-50 in context of it being a weapon, curious how it compares to random medival and post medival weapons...
@JinKee
3 жыл бұрын
need that clip from The Sopranos where they try to get that spetznaz guy to dig his own grave so they hand him a shovel.
"The point is...that is the point."
Interestingly you find a similar asymmetric blade form on a lot of 19th Century American corn knives, which were made using methods similar to those used in American pattern scythe blades.
@jamesmoechnig3855
3 жыл бұрын
Corn knives! This is the first time I've seen someone outside my family mention the things! Thank you! We used them regularly growing up, for anything you'd use a machete for. Several of the ones we used were stamped "Austria" at the base of the blade.
Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another video on Schola Gladiatora. I'm Matt Easton, and today we have a look at a really interesting knife...
I regret to inform you you have violated copyright and trademark of one gun jesus. You have three fortnights to desist, or provide remuneration in the form of obscure French weaponry. Good day Sir.
@SonsOfLorgar
3 жыл бұрын
Remuneration in peculiar hats and headwear might be permissible if obscure French armaments is unfeasible to provide.
@robertsmith4681
3 жыл бұрын
Both Gun Jesus and Blade Buddha can coexist in harmony you know ...
@will9501
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmith4681 quiet possibly sir, but intellectual property theft is not the best introduction...
@will9501
3 жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar my mistake in drafting, I forgot to include that alternative election. Prospective drafts will include such language.
@SonsOfLorgar
3 жыл бұрын
very well, my good man.
An area of utility knife-weapons you could also look at is the Gaucho Knives from south America. Mostly common to some parts of Brazil, Uruguay and very popular in Argentina were the cowboys down there used them because of a lack of firearms in the area. You get a real mix of Spanish, German and British produced blades which are typified by local silver smiths ornamenting the handles and sheath to various degrees.
"Mexican Bowie knives are bigger than Texan ones." Dem's fightin words! 🤣
@IceniBrave
3 жыл бұрын
Make Texas Mexico Again
@Nomercy721
3 жыл бұрын
@@IceniBrave that's a good joke there
@Nico96as
3 жыл бұрын
i mean during half of the 19th century Texas was Mexico, so perhaps we can say that they both had the biggest knives.
@michaelshelton5488
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nico96as Texas was only part of Mexico from 1821 to 1836
@Nico96as
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelshelton5488 You made me go and look up Texan history, and it seems much more complex and nuanced than i had originally supposed from a quick overview, thanks for pushing me in that direction.
I vaguely remembered a video on Haitian machete fighting when you showed that second sword/knife. So my instinct was a machete modified to be a better fighting weapon by someone around the Caribbean.
@jordanhicks5131
3 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought but Mexican, the guard shape is very similar to Mexican fighting machetes
If Lynn Thompson is watching Cold Steel will be coming out with a version of this by October 2021.
hello and thank you for tuning in to Forgotten Context, I’m Mian McEaston
~12:00 I love how he didn't even mention Australia. If you're over there, no weapon will save you from the wildlife, not even firearms. #emuwar
Very much reminds me of the bowie knives carried by Glanton's band of scalp-hunters in Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian." They were described as big enough to cut off a man's head, which this one could seemingly do without too much effort.
Wait... Forgotten weapons? Is this a hint at a collab with Ian?
@jeffreyroot6300
3 жыл бұрын
If only!
@GOREilla.
3 жыл бұрын
It'd be awesome!
Here in Brazil, that kind of hook was used by pioneers (bandeirantes) in knifes called "sorocabana", that were made by Solingen and were very common as working knifes.
I’ve actually seen a lot of American civil war Bowie knives and Arkansas toothpicks that are around the size of that South American machete.
Forgotten weapons, you mean like half the Oakeshott Typology?
@lowlandnobleman6746
3 жыл бұрын
Particularly interested in seeing Oakeshott Type 13s, 13As, 13Bs, Type 19s, Type 20s, and Type 11s. There’s already way too many redundant rehashed videos about Type 10s, Type 12s, Type 15s, and Type 18s. Also Dudgeon daggers, as well as those weird 7th-9th century AD Irish shortswords.
@jaybluff281
3 жыл бұрын
Have you read Carol van Driel-Murray's article on the Leiden scabbard finds? Lots of good stuff on the XII, XIII and XVI.
"The shape of the tip tells you things." - Captain Context, 2020
Don't bring a knife to a Gun Jesus fight.
@RiderOftheNorth1968
3 жыл бұрын
Not even a very big knife like that?
@edi9892
3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the range... One whack and you'd be truly disarmed...
@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347
3 жыл бұрын
Matt advances on gun jesus: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHqpyNGIl6azh5s.html
@EmilReiko
3 жыл бұрын
Its all about timing.. You wait for the attack, till he is reviewing an african poachers zip gun
@GOREilla.
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a french one.
The machete reminds me of one of the machetes used in Haitian Fencing. (Tire Machèt.)
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
3 жыл бұрын
are you from Haiti?
Thank you Mr Easton for often showing the spines of the blades you share as I have learned a lot more about tapering a knife from your Video's.
Pretty good guess on the second one, Matt, but it's clearly the sidearm of a pirate from Neverland, made for cutting through the jungle and battling wild creatures while on the hunt for Lost Boys. The notch is a dead giveaway!
Damn. I'm Austrian and wouldn't have recognized it. However, I did attribute it to pioneers
@12:52 "The point is... there is a point... and that is the point." Legendary 😂😂
The shape of the tip and thickness of the blade on that first pioneer sword makes me think it would be pretty good at digging too, compared to anything other than a shovel.
My suggestion for the playlist: Weapons without context (the unknown weapons of history)
I wish I had found your channel sooner. You're very informative and I look forward to watching more
Thank you. I always enjoy your videos. I learned a new thing and I appreciate that.
"That's not a knoyf!-uh-actually-yeah-THAT is a knoyf!" Cheers Matt, LOVE these vids, as I've almost entirely burnt out on the repetitive, brain rotting shit on tv, your channel has become a mandatory part of my week. Great job brother!
Fascinating weapon. Thank you. One day, please do tell the story of how you made the transition from writing and appearing in the Rocky Horror Show to the world of antique arms... :)
collaboration with ian mccollum when
This is why I like your channel Matt - very interesting stuff with sort of "uniquety" wrinkle to it. I think the idea of starting a "Unknown tools/weapons" is a great idea. I think there are lots of jewels out there that are very interesting not only in the design, but also rich in history. Two tools you've shown today are excellent example of that. Keep up the good work!
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
3 жыл бұрын
i love his channel too, I'm a swords lover, since i was a small little child
LoL I have that exat same Pioneers knife just different handle. I did not know what it was thinking it was some sort of machete. Found it in old house we had after some old dude. I just kept it by the bed in case some burglar showed up. Now I got this video randomly in recomendations...Thank you KZread Algorithm, AND THANK YOU MATT EASTON!
Oooh! Do one on Yataghan sword bayonets! Specifically the Turkish Peabody model. Severely underrated weapons
Fascinating! Great presentation!
The first one was incredibly interesting thank you I learn more and more about swords from this channel its top of the line please have a good day.
I really love the Faschinenmesser (pioneers knife). It's the perfect tool for the job - from a bushcraft point of view! The specific form of the blade reminds me of the asymetric edge geometry of a right-handed Behaubeil (carpenters axe) or a Schnitzbeil (sculptor hatchet). These were not used for chopping down trees or splitting wood. They were used to give shape from a round log to a beam with an square diameter. Pioneers were not only ordered to dig trenches or to build bridges. They were also the ones on the front of a siege to fortify their workspace against cavalry as a counter measure from the opponents. They had to go there (mostly in night time) and build up Spanische Reiter (cheval de frise). To secure smaller spaces (e.g. the space between two Spanische Reiter) you square up pole wood and ram it down. The geometry of the blade provides the pioneer also an opportunity to dig small post-holes for the poles. Right hand on the hilt, left hand on the backside of the blade with your fingertips in the groove. This should work incredible fast!
Hahaha it reminds me of the Swiss faschinenmesser and as soon as you fliped it around I was reminded about some other video of you where you mentiond the onesided fuller typical for austria. Love your content keep it up.
In the spirit of "letting the Internet name things", this playlist should be dubbed "Swordy McSwordface".
Another fascinating topic, well explained, with a lot of savvy physics. Thanks. cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott
Thank you for covering more forms of what I call " agriculture based self defense tools" on your channel. I appreciate learning about them.
Love that second thin knife, I’ll take it wrap it up!!❤
I've seen pieces like that here in Chile, they were used as artillery/ engineer machete for bushing, preparing positions and constructing in the battlefield during the second half of the 19th century. I don't kow at this point of the video if that piece was used like that, but here in Chile you find them as I described.
I can not express quite how much I love your wall. It is magnificent. Every time I watch your videos I end up wanting to watch Sharpe.
Hmmm, an interesting little-known weapon? I'd love to see an in-depth look at a Maori war club, but I can't imagine where you'd ever get access to one that you could show on camera.
Great video, very interesting!
yes, I got the first one right, well not the origin but the category. Your german was spot on for the Faschinenmesser.
The word "pioneer" is interesting in this sort of thing. In the US, we tend to use "pioneer" as a term to refer to people who move into and settle a previously unpopulated or sparsely-populated area. In europe, it seems to refer to war engineers or foresters/rangers.
That is one of the most aesthetically pleasing blade designs I've seen. Edit: Must do collab with Ian on bayonets.
I'm from Hungary and I immediately recognised the pioneer sword. I saw one on a fleamarket once and I was shocked how light it was. The blade is super massive, but so is the fuller which takes away half of the mass of the weapon.
Hey guys! Thanks for tuning in to another video on ForgottenWeapons.com, I'm Ian McCollum and today we are going to talk about bladed weapons which I normally don't talk about.
I love! Really love knowing new forgotten weapons, its so cool i dunno, is like learning what a warhammer or mace is again, i feel like a child learning new stuff
The second "knife" reminds me a lot of the types of backup huge knives (especially the hand guard's shape and the bowie style of the blade) by some Southern troops during the American Civil War, you can find photos of zouaves like the Wheat Tigers or Louisiana regiments. Some of these weapons' guard have this curved leafe shapes and some even have a full guard protecting the hand like a sabre. The shape of the blade really reminds me of the kind of bowie knives (some of which got huge) produced in the South back then. Some blades was even fatter than this one while being half its length. There wasn't any regulation from what I know.
A very very good video about two very very different knives: a very very heavy one and a very very thin one. I'm very very pleased I watched it. ;)
I love your sword collection as displayed behind you
Well, I'm a new subscriber, love the content. Huge Ian fan.
Loved the point about not just having a weapon to have a go at someone else but to defend against local wildlife. I’ve been in Tanzania myself and I know it’s not the scariest of places but you still need to show awareness.
Weapons with forgotten context
"The point is, there is a point. That's the point." Matt Easton, 2020
I can't wait for more of this!!!
That hook at the End of the Handle is just there to prevent the Machete/Billhook flying out of your Hand while using, just like a big Pommel on a Sword. It fullfills the same Purpose as the "Birdbeak" on the Faschinenmesser.
I absolutely love that 53 pattern, have never seen a knife like that before! It's like a 76 heavy cav that's been boiled down and condensed into its true, concentrated form.
Popping up the glasses to read. Fellow near-sighter here, my Lasik wore out with age and I'm back to glasses beyond arms reach.
For me as an Austrian it felt a bit jarring to hear that Austria "colonized" or "conquered" the Empire. Austria was a pretty un-militaristic Empire, and often lost fights, or got help to win them (famous example: Sobieski in 1683!). It won conflicts by making good deals and grew mainly through marriage. That is also true for the acquisition of Hungary: The Hungarian King died fighting the Ottoman Empire, and he was married to the sister of a Habsburg; thus, Hungary fell to House Habsburg. The famous saying went "Tu felix Austria nube": While others made wars, Austria married their heirs. Austria began to struggle when Prussia emerged -- a very much more military-minded culture. Our best generals were usually foreigners, like Prince Eugen from Savoy. From an Austrian perspective, the Czechs, Hungarians, Croats, Slovaks, Slovenes, and others, felt like brother nations, not colonies or conquered folk, and Vienna was a very multi-ethnic city. (Although clearly the feeling was not mutual, as can be seen by the example of czechish demands for freedom, and the drastic implosion of the empire after losing WW1.)
his old design of weapon, with a drop point or potentially a centered spear point tip, and a full knuckleduster D guard or hand protection is similar to what I was thinking as a Canadian infantry alternative to the pistol as a back up weapon for their Primary C7 or C7 with grenade launcher rifle. 21 foot rule and all that. Pioneer's sword .... I like that. Give it a 20 inch blade, and a D or Stirrup guard, strong enough to not deform if you punch a cinder block to pieces with it.
Awww, got really excited for a forgotten weapons collab. You should really consider doing a collab - ww1/2 officer swords, bayonets, melee weapons of the great war could all be potential crossroads between your focuses. He also has a pretty good hat collection.
"The point is that there's a point, and that's the point." -Matt Easton, 2020. Also, the moment I saw that first one I thought: "Fascine knife."
"Can you make me a really huge bowie knife?" "...why?" "Because Mexi-CAN!"
Just a slight comment on terminology: The Austrian Empire would not become Austria-Hungary until the Compromise (“Ausgleich”) of 1867 in the aftermath of the empire’s defeat by Prussia in 1866. So, this fascine knife would’ve been a product of the Austrian Empire, not the dual monarchy (as the 1867-1918 Austro-Hungarian empire/state is often termed).
Thanks Matt, this old dog is always learning something new from you!!!
Perfect for mounting on Webley revolvers
Love the idea for this as a new series
At 12:26 ... You have to protect yourself from Allsorts? That's some dangerous candy!
As a native Spanish speaker from South America, the first word that came to my mind when I saw the second blade was "alfanje", but that's a pretty old word for a falchion/dao style sword from Spain. I do think that blade took inspiration from alfanjes, though.
After World War 3 we will have future M. Easton looking over blades from the 2000's and just going "I have no idea what they were thinking....maybe it looked cool to them?"
I have one, found in a trench of Isonzo front, it is a 1862 model, but was used by austro-hungarian pioneers also during ww1.
hey S.G , there is a wakizashi-sword converted from a O-yari blade wich has a tranglar cross-sec one one side and a flat cross-sec on the other (Asymetrical) , you can see on google images. Also str8-bladed and double-edged - so all-in-all ; very very rare for a japanese sword.
@tombrown8800
3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see that
As I was thinking of the example of your large Mexican/South American bowie knife, another forgotten weapon from that region would be the Spanish Mexican Espada Ancha short sword with a shell guard or single langet over the blade.
Hi Mr Easton I will start saying that when compared to you Im a total ignorant in what concerns about antique weapons . That being said, I think that the second sword that you show could have been made out of some kind of spanish saber beacause the style of guard and handle are very similar to some models and also the thicknes of the blade suggest that to me. Hope this can help I apologize for my bbad english, Im from Spain I Love your videos I have learned so much watching you keep up with that good work Best wishes