Forgotten Wars - The Greek Invasion of Africa (310 BC)

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In this animated history documentary we continue our coverage of the Punic Sicilian Wars. This episode covers the Seventh Punic Sicilian War which saw Agathocles rise as tyrant of Syracuse to challenge Carthage once more. Yet unlike his predecessors, he would raise the stakes of this conflict by launching an invasion of north Africa. This Greek invasion would see the very capital of Carthage put to siege. But the siege of Carthage was just the start of Agathocles' ambitious campaign to take North Africa from the enemy.
You can learn more about the armies of Carthage through our Units of History episodes:
The Sacred Band of Carthage : • Units of History - The...
Carthaginian War Elephants : • Units of History - Car...
Numidian Cavalry : • Units of History - The...
Balearic Slingers : • Units of History - The...
Sources and Suggested Reading:
"The Library of History - Book 19, 20" by Diodorus Siculus
"Philippic Histories - Book 21, 22, 23, 24" by Justinus
"The Carthaginians" by Dexter Hoyos
"Carthage's Other Wars" by Dexter Hoyos
"Carthage Must Be Destroyed" by Richard Miles
Credit:
Research = Chris Das Neves
Script = Chris Das Neves
Narration = Invicta
Art = Penta Limited
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  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory Жыл бұрын

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  • @ground_news

    @ground_news

    Жыл бұрын

    It was great working with you, Invicta!

  • @d.c.8828

    @d.c.8828

    Жыл бұрын

    Democrat and Republican are not on opposing ends of the political spectrum.

  • @tsdocholiday8965

    @tsdocholiday8965

    Жыл бұрын

    Will you put all the Punic-Sicilian wars videos into one big documentary so people can watch it in one go or listen to it more easily like a podcast?

  • @brokenbridge6316

    @brokenbridge6316

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice job with the video. I always like learning about little known time periods.

  • @nikola7211

    @nikola7211

    Жыл бұрын

    Make a video about the Serbian-Vizantian wars wich brout Vizanty empire to its knees and allow the Otomans to begin their counquest of the Balkans

  • @peterthesneakybastar
    @peterthesneakybastar Жыл бұрын

    It’s astonishing how many times Syracuse was able to rival two of Antiquity’s juggernauts, Carthage and Rome. I’ve always wondered how different history might’ve been had the entire Hellenic world been perpetually united.

  • @hurryhussar

    @hurryhussar

    Жыл бұрын

    Syracuse was never a match against Rome

  • @bigalsnow8199

    @bigalsnow8199

    Жыл бұрын

    They also swatted away an invasive attack from Athens...with unbelievable atrocities and savagery.

  • @nvmtt1403

    @nvmtt1403

    Жыл бұрын

    (entire Hellenic world been perpetually united)-well, they performed mediocore at best after uniting into the kingdom of greece after the ottomans............

  • @James-sk4db

    @James-sk4db

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t really call that the entire Hellenic world.

  • @nvmtt1403

    @nvmtt1403

    Жыл бұрын

    @@James-sk4db why? what was left out? cyrpus?

  • @immortaljanus
    @immortaljanus Жыл бұрын

    Agathocles projecting some serious Total War veteran vibe right there... :D

  • @joeclay9683

    @joeclay9683

    Жыл бұрын

    only in total war does sending your entire army to attack an enemy city while your cities are getting conquered seem to happen. if this scenario happened in a video game, most people would think the ai had no sense of self-perservation.

  • @remigofflo179

    @remigofflo179

    Жыл бұрын

    1988 300 GRÈCE REMI GOFFLO

  • @Juanhop

    @Juanhop

    Жыл бұрын

    We need a Syracusan faction....

  • @user-yu2pv5es4q
    @user-yu2pv5es4q Жыл бұрын

    I am a native Greek and legit have NEVER heard of this in my ENTIRE life so far (25 years old).I had heard of Syracuse and Dionisus I&II but this? Amazing

  • @hannibalbarca8411

    @hannibalbarca8411

    Жыл бұрын

    I am tunisian and i didn't hear about it too 😂

  • @Ian-yf7uf

    @Ian-yf7uf

    Жыл бұрын

    Greek history is so deep! Even decoding linear B tablets reveals amazing things about Mycenaean bronze age even through to late Greek history, like these invasions of Africa. I find Greece to be one of the most fascinating places on earth. Even during Athens, so many literary geniuses came from that city while the city never had much more that 200k population and about 50k citizens.

  • @xyris1208

    @xyris1208

    Жыл бұрын

    Italian history purposefully neglect all history of its southern half, favoring the teaching of its northern bits, so not even Italians study this part. Just to give a bit of context on the importance of ancient Syracuse, Greek historians (Herodotus and Aristotle) wrote that the battle of Himera was on the same day of the battle of Salamis. That was not true but was greek propaganda aiming to frame the two main powers of ancient Greek culture that defended their freedom and roots against the two big empires of that time: Persia in the east and Carthage inthe west. This give an insight on how the Sicilian polis was publicly perceived and its main role in ancient times.

  • @liammurphy2725

    @liammurphy2725

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes because teaching this depth of History is a waste of time at schools where most of the Graduates will go on to work at McDonalds.

  • @user-yu2pv5es4q

    @user-yu2pv5es4q

    Жыл бұрын

    Really proud to be Greek, and grateful we share history together!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Жыл бұрын

    i love how fierce the ancient Greeks fought.

  • @jonbaxter2254

    @jonbaxter2254

    Жыл бұрын

    @Bobby The Crazy Bichon Frisé against... other Greeks?

  • @jonbaxter2254

    @jonbaxter2254

    Жыл бұрын

    @Bobby The Crazy Bichon Frisé many fine empires fell to Rome. No shame there. And they battled enemies even larger centuries before and won.

  • @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbythecrazybichonfrise7634 the Greek culture disappeared? Really now? Check how many English words derive from Greek words and go to any university in the world and check how many sciences are taught based on Greek heritage there. Just check.

  • @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbythecrazybichonfrise7634 just say you hate Greeks without saying bs.

  • @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    @user-ue6yc9kr8i

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbythecrazybichonfrise7634 yet you re here commenting on a subject that involves Greece. Your opinion is respectable but not the superior one. Greece is eternal and the heritage is strong and forever. Where are you from by the way?

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 Жыл бұрын

    Oh, yeah! Finally Agathocles, and the attack on Carthage! Agathocles's strategy to transfer the front or the war in Africa was adopted later by Scipio. And we must point out that Agathocles was of very humble origins, since he was the son of a potter from the city of Himera in Sicily, who moved to Siracuse.

  • @nisarbo3781

    @nisarbo3781

    Жыл бұрын

    With the difference that Agathocles and his sons got wrecked in the end. He saved Syracuse from falling but his attack ended in disaster. Scipio was far more skilled than Agathocles

  • @pseudomonas03

    @pseudomonas03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nisarbo3781 Scipio had a bigger and better organized military force though. And Agathocles's strategic purpose wasn't actually to take Cartahage, but to create a diversion, in order to con a part of the Carthagean forces that besieged Siracuse to follow him, and eventually end the Siege of the city. And it worked. Scipio used the same tactic with Agathocles in order to force Carthage to recall Hannibal's forces from Italy. Later Emperor Heraclius used the same tactic, he invaded Persia, in order to force the Persian forces to retreat from Asia Minor.

  • @athanasiosmegas6016

    @athanasiosmegas6016

    Жыл бұрын

    Before Scipio there was also Atilius Regulus in the First Punic War

  • @pseudomonas03

    @pseudomonas03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@athanasiosmegas6016 Yes, but Regulus invaded after his triumph at the Battle of Cape Eknomus, while Agathocles's move was a strategic diversion, in order to reduce the Carthaganean pressure at the Siege of Siracuse. Scipio, with Hannibal in Italy, followed the same tactic with Agathocles, in order to have Hannibal retreat from the peninsula.

  • @totalwartimelapses6359

    @totalwartimelapses6359

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd say Hannibal didn't need to be diverted back to Africa as he wasn't much of a danger anymore by 203 BC Scipio's goal was probably just to strike at the heart of Carthage and end the war there, with or without defeating Hannibal

  • @IronWarrior86
    @IronWarrior86 Жыл бұрын

    The Greeks invaded Africa long before that during the Greco-Persian wars in what was called the Wars of the Delian League.

  • @Lucifer_Morningstar_F4LL1N1
    @Lucifer_Morningstar_F4LL1N1 Жыл бұрын

    Agathocles is actually one of my favorite characters in Greek history, it's great that someone finally talks about him

  • @segovax2852
    @segovax2852 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe I had never heard about this conflict until your videos about this! It makes sense, both the Greeks and Phoenicians loved to explore the Mediterranean and spread their civilizations, thank you for this video series!

  • @supermavro6072

    @supermavro6072

    Жыл бұрын

    There was no such thing as Greece or Greeks. Greece is not ethnicity. They probably referring the Phoenicians and Etruscans as Greeks.

  • @segovax2852

    @segovax2852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@supermavro6072 Greek comes from the Latin Graecus, which in turn comes from Ancient Greek Graikos. A name that comes from Graia a city where the Romans first contacted the Greeks. The Greeks called themselves Hellenos. Hellenic is a language, a culture, and an ethnicity. Unlike today the ancient Greeks were fiercely independent of one another, but they would have still seen themselves as Greek or Hellenic. Well, I shouldn’t say Hellenic language because there were multiple distinct dialects of Ancient Greek.

  • @supermavro6072

    @supermavro6072

    Жыл бұрын

    @@segovax2852 You just copy pasted this from Wikipedia. I don't think you know what "Greek" is. Can you give the definition of this term "Greek or Greece", I meant what is it's exactly meaning

  • @wankawanka3053

    @wankawanka3053

    Жыл бұрын

    @@supermavro6072 cope 😉 where were the albanians in antiquity 😂 ???

  • @wankawanka3053

    @wankawanka3053

    Жыл бұрын

    @@segovax2852 let the Albanian cope because of his jealousy of the greeks 😁

  • @ground_news
    @ground_news Жыл бұрын

    It was great working with you, Invicta! In all sincerity, I've been a personal fan (the person writing this comment) of your page for a while now. You've always done a fantastic job of distilling complex events into clean visuals and engaging narratives - and A LOT of people have learned & benefitted because of it. Keep up the great work. And for any viewers who might be interested in trying out Ground News, I'm happy to answer any questions you might have!

  • @Stallion-EC

    @Stallion-EC

    Жыл бұрын

    And now I'ma hit up your channel cause never enough history

  • @All_Hail_Chael

    @All_Hail_Chael

    Жыл бұрын

    Bit random, but as someone who despairs at the echo chambers people find themselves in, fair play for trying to do something. Thing is, they never know they are in one....be it Fox or Vox.

  • @jonathanyes112

    @jonathanyes112

    Жыл бұрын

    I just got your app and I have to say it’s what I’ve been looking for for ages so thank you. However, I don’t really know how to guide myself around it, if the blind spot indicators show how much left/right wing media ignores the topic or something else. Is there a tutorial on how to best use the app?

  • @oliverforde1115

    @oliverforde1115

    Жыл бұрын

    does it work for the UK?

  • @jonathanyes112

    @jonathanyes112

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oliverforde1115 it has a uk option but it does have a few complaints about being a bit too much US stuff

  • @hiddensalami4334
    @hiddensalami4334 Жыл бұрын

    Makes me wanna fire up Rome 2 and do a Syracuse playthrough.

  • @curseoftheegglady
    @curseoftheegglady Жыл бұрын

    The ancient literary sources in this video were especially well-written

  • @supermavro6072

    @supermavro6072

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, literary sources pulled off my a$$

  • @samsonsoturian6013

    @samsonsoturian6013

    Жыл бұрын

    They're loaded with exaggerations

  • @remigofflo179

    @remigofflo179

    Жыл бұрын

    1988 300 GRÈCE REMI GOFFLO

  • @simonengland6448

    @simonengland6448

    Жыл бұрын

    I gave up in the first 30 seconds. If you can't differentiate between a definite and indefinite article, then the rest of your 'research' is bound to be flawed.

  • @Sp-zj5hw
    @Sp-zj5hw Жыл бұрын

    Make videos about the Hellenic re-emergence of 1204-1453 and the Hellenic reconquista of 1261.

  • @V-man117
    @V-man117 Жыл бұрын

    Greco Punic wars are even more interesting than the later wars with Pyrrhus and Rome

  • @boromirdigondor7977

    @boromirdigondor7977

    4 ай бұрын

    0:16 they are not "greco-punic" wars

  • @QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
    @QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын

    Often overlooked? You're right about that. I had never heard of it. To add context, the battle of Cannae (Remember Hannibal) was in 216 BC, and Carthage was destroyed by Rome in 146 BC.

  • @Trish156
    @Trish156 Жыл бұрын

    Fighting in ancient times was so brutal, raw,and tactics were truly ingenious. Good vid thanks

  • @scipio0793
    @scipio0793 Жыл бұрын

    I have enjoyed this series so much and i never once known of this conflict spilling over to africa, such interesting times! Thank u for ur content!

  • @walhallberserker610
    @walhallberserker610 Жыл бұрын

    Its actually incredible how much you overtake your sources biases time and time again

  • @gh4738
    @gh4738 Жыл бұрын

    Am tunisian and i never heard of this, it's fascinating & interesting

  • @jacobkonick8889
    @jacobkonick8889 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video and very good series! Thank you and hope you and your team are all well.

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode 👍

  • @DesertAres
    @DesertAres Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video on a little known expedition. Thank you!

  • @kirschakos
    @kirschakos Жыл бұрын

    This was absoutely amazing! Never heard about this before! Thank you!

  • @rexadebayo3380
    @rexadebayo3380 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant! I never heard about this before. I recall Machiavelli mentioned Agathocles several times but I have never really learned about him. Thanks for the video.

  • @InvictaHistory

    @InvictaHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll have to dig up what he said about him. Based on Agathocles’s achievements in the face of such odds it seems like there are some valuable lessons in his story

  • @rexadebayo3380

    @rexadebayo3380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@InvictaHistory There's a part of "the prince" where he talks about the proper use of cruelty in state craft. He uses Agathocles and one Oliverotto as examples in that chapter. Now l see why. That move where he knocks off the Senate and the leaders of the commoners in one blow is just classic. Very cruel but classic.

  • @gthreesix
    @gthreesix Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for an awesome video!!!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @darrenrenna
    @darrenrenna Жыл бұрын

    Amazing story! I cannot help but think that this episode from Carthaginian History might have helped inspire Hannibal's campaign in Italy.

  • @parrythetrojan
    @parrythetrojan Жыл бұрын

    Great video man!

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын

    A magnificent work done by Invicta... Thanks for sharing... Intermediate positions of Sicilian Island..confidence both sides to expansion its dominant upon shoulders of its foe ..dominate its navigation strengths over Mediterranean shores

  • @shawnbeckett1370
    @shawnbeckett1370 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome as always

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Жыл бұрын

    Terrific video! ⚔

  • @tornaperinso1484
    @tornaperinso1484 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, subscribed!

  • @susgabut8860
    @susgabut8860 Жыл бұрын

    What a great video... I hope you can cover alot of other battle in Southeast Asia

  • @cadian122
    @cadian12211 ай бұрын

    This was utterly amazing.. I consider myself a history buff and I graduated college with Honors in History, but I never delved deep into this conflcit.. Such a great video, I learned a lot, thank you

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing2902 Жыл бұрын

    Well done !

  • @alejandrosakai1744
    @alejandrosakai1744 Жыл бұрын

    We are the Lunar new year, It would have been cool if you covered the war between the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and the Han Dynasty also known as the War of Heavenly Horses!

  • @user-cg2tw8pw7j

    @user-cg2tw8pw7j

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a war between the Scythians against the Han, and the Scythians were defeated at the beginning, but they managed to kill 90,000 Han soldiers, and in the end the Scythians took control of the land and spread their religion of Buddhism in China

  • @wyattrota9070

    @wyattrota9070

    Жыл бұрын

    Kings and generals has a video on the war

  • @VicmundLim

    @VicmundLim

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-cg2tw8pw7j source bro?

  • @sztallone415

    @sztallone415

    Жыл бұрын

    @Angeal zeal K&G already made a video about it

  • @resentfuldragon

    @resentfuldragon

    Жыл бұрын

    Another good one would be the abbassid-tang war since they both use a lunar calendar.

  • @fanaros2726
    @fanaros2726 Жыл бұрын

    great video amazing story

  • @xristos144
    @xristos144 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice video.

  • @noteimporta2880
    @noteimporta2880 Жыл бұрын

    thanks!!!!

  • @johngaelnox5447
    @johngaelnox5447 Жыл бұрын

    Love the art you use in your videos

  • @samdumaquis2033
    @samdumaquis2033 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting !

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf Жыл бұрын

    GREAT WORK! Greetings from Athens!

  • @RoboticDragon
    @RoboticDragon Жыл бұрын

    Never heard of this before, fascinating.

  • @richardkeilig4062
    @richardkeilig4062 Жыл бұрын

    Well done. I dd not know about this terrible war.

  • @calvanoni5443
    @calvanoni5443 Жыл бұрын

    Bravo!

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 Жыл бұрын

    Great! As expected. Watching for the Bell !!!!

  • @Mrkabrat
    @Mrkabrat Жыл бұрын

    Agathocles would plant the idea that an invasion of north africa could be easily done from Sicily, since he had managed it in a less than favourable position

  • @naturalbornpatriot6369
    @naturalbornpatriot6369 Жыл бұрын

    May I ask, as I came from Battle of Ecnomus video to this one, in the course of the 6 years since you published that documentary, how much has your channel grown since then? A times would be fair enough, I am genuinely curious though. I have no idea how long I've been subbed for, but it's been several years. I've never given you any of my money or gone to any product that has sponsored a video of yours, all the same though, I absolutely love your content. I just found your awesome "All Dogs Go to Valhalla" merch. Can't tell you how awesome and happy that simple little sticker makes me. Anyhow, please if you have the info easily accessible that I am asking for, please respond, it is genuine curiosity, only to be used to gloat just how good your content is, even from 6 years ago.

  • @jtgd
    @jtgd Жыл бұрын

    Ah. Time to break out Rome 2

  • @ryanharris1052
    @ryanharris1052 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I’ve become extremely invested in this interesting war. It’s interesting the Syracuseans decided to invade Carthage. As mentioned it didn’t appear they had any prospect of capturing the city so what was the plan? Win a decisive battle and hope Carthage would conceded?

  • @geordiejones5618

    @geordiejones5618

    Жыл бұрын

    I assume they were trying to force Carthage to withdraw from Western Sicily, but I feel like they should have gone full scorched Earth and burned the farms all around the city if they wanted them to panic.

  • @jatzi1526

    @jatzi1526

    Жыл бұрын

    Drag out the war and hope the morale of Carthage would fail causing them to seek terms. It makes sense. And going full scorched earth is iffy cuz it could've enraged the carthagians enough to not surrender

  • @praiza1481

    @praiza1481

    Жыл бұрын

    More than anything, Carthage cared about its citizens, hence why they employed mostly mercenaries. Agathocles' plan was basically to traumatize them enough so that they would seek terms, if not surrender completely. It was a sound strategy, since Africa had been free from war for the past three centuries. The Carthaginians had no intentions of fighting there themselves, and the prospect of losing their riches could only add fuel to a raging fire, as he countryside was bountiful with loot. It's more or less the strategy that Hannibal Barca used against Rome a century later, wrest its allies from it and pillage the countryside to force the Romans to surrender.

  • @resentfuldragon

    @resentfuldragon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@praiza1481 Its a devious strategy but it tends to backfire if you do it to the wrong enemy. For example: many muslim nations even today would just outlast you and all crimes against citizens only adds fuel to the hatred and desire to fight. It can really backfire unless you are evil enough to go full genocide.

  • @Erik_123
    @Erik_123 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone who played a little bit of RTS games would have loved to see the enemy split their forces into 3, so they could kill them individually. What a bad commander the son must have been

  • @forlornfool221
    @forlornfool221 Жыл бұрын

    Yo Bro.. I don't believe I knew aboot this! This definitely is going on my 'gotta learn more' list..

  • @forlornfool221

    @forlornfool221

    Жыл бұрын

    stop spammin not kool

  • @chandrashekharborkar8729
    @chandrashekharborkar8729 Жыл бұрын

    While fair amount of written historical records are available and also covered by latter commentators with respect to the happenings in the areas which were won over by Alexander and after his demise. But not much is heard about the happenings regions in the west beyond the Mediterranean sea. Given that, your efforts in bringing out this video is commendable indeed. Simplicity and eloquence are the hallmarks of your videos. And Well done again. Best wishes.

  • @johngolden3714
    @johngolden3714 Жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this series. I had very little to no idea about these conflicts. Also, I noticed that the Carthaginian soldiers have some pretty awesome tats. What was the source for that?

  • @hurryhussar

    @hurryhussar

    Жыл бұрын

    They were quite famous for tatooing, I recalled

  • @zakaria497

    @zakaria497

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s the Libyans, Cartage hired mercenary for their armies. The Libyans were known for tattoos. Amazigh people still have those tattoos till this day

  • @ivandicivan4189

    @ivandicivan4189

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zakaria497 They were combination of Carthaginian citizens and allies/vassals (who did not have to be Lybian Berbers, they could be from other Punic cities in Africa, like many Lybo-Phoenicians, so Phoenician-speaking. In Greek sources Lybian and in Roman African are mostly geographic terms not ethnic ones ), not actual mercenaries. These people fought as vassals as part of their cities tributary obligations towards Carthage, similar to Socci system of roman allies. Most of large armies of antiquity were like that, including Syracusan one. Carhtaginians are reported to wear tatoos.

  • @zakaria497

    @zakaria497

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ivandicivan4189 ancient Libyans, ancient Mauritania and Numidians all of them had Amazigh tattoos and were mostly used by Cartage in wars. Carthage even had a mercenary wars with us the Berbers that was brutal. So most likely the people with tattoos in the North African armies were of Berber descent.

  • @joseneto5833
    @joseneto5833 Жыл бұрын

    Epic moments of history

  • @gmanbo
    @gmanbo Жыл бұрын

    An interesting bit as this campaign in the area around Carthage reminds me a lot of Hannibal and his campaigns in Roman Italy.

  • @manji1993
    @manji1993 Жыл бұрын

    Aaaah I love ancient history

  • @j.m.b.7449
    @j.m.b.7449 Жыл бұрын

    yaay new one

  • @j.nilsson5362
    @j.nilsson5362 Жыл бұрын

    I so prefer when you do the voiceover yourself. Great video thanks

  • @InvictaHistory

    @InvictaHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that as it's always been nice for me to retain a personal touch on these projects even as we grow

  • @horophim
    @horophim Жыл бұрын

    It's astonishing how bigger armies were in ancient times compared to medieval. Here, what is essentialy a regional dispute, saw something like 80k men raised between both sides while william conquered england with like 10k men

  • @AkkaAlbatros

    @AkkaAlbatros

    Жыл бұрын

    at some point syracuse numbered over half a million population

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz Жыл бұрын

    I truly appreciate dwelling into forgotten wars like this one, TY.

  • @Holybatman3603

    @Holybatman3603

    Жыл бұрын

    Look up the Moorish wars, one of the reasons why the Byzantines didn't expand further West.

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Holybatman3603 - What? Moorish refers to NW Africa (Berber or Berber-derived). I'm guessing you mean the Muslim (Arab, not Moorish in any way) expansion but actually... that came after the Byzantines had truly f***ed up their realm, first by trying to invade Italy and failing and then by getting exhausted at endless wars with the Persians,, who also collapsed and causing internal strife in sectarian conflicts with the Afroasiatic churches of Alexandria and Antioch. The Arabs just took on extremely weakened foes, it's amazing that Byzantium survived where Persia could not. In any case that's not really "forgotten": I have watched several docus on the matter. Now pre-Muslim and first Muslim Arabia would be an interesting forgotten period (several wars) to dwell into, beginning with Talmudist-Jewish (and also Christian) expansion in the Red Sea area, the formation of Christian Axum and Jewish Yemen (and also Jewish very strong influence in Mecca, all of which directly connects with the weird life and militant prophecy of Mohamed) and ending with the post-Mohamed wars between the tribes/sects and the consolidation of the Rashidun Caliphate, which was the one that invaded the northern powers. It would take some dare to actually take on Mohamed as historical character (which he is, no doubt) without bending to the superstitions and taboos of the still many believers, often extremely fanatic, but it should be done because History, including Muslim history, belongs to Humanity and not to sectarians.

  • @Holybatman3603

    @Holybatman3603

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LuisAldamiz I was talking about the wars between the Catholic Berbers and Orthodox Greeks and Anatolians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_wars One of the reasons why Christianity didn't last as long in North Africa was because of Huneric's persecution of Catholics and the systematic slaughter of North African Christians during the Moorish wars.

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Holybatman3603 Ah, OK: that's a very unknown war or series of wars, certainly. I was not really aware of them: I know that there were some diffuse conflicts but thought they were almost unknown. After all it was the dark ages, so for instance, if you look at my country of Vasconia (not very far away and not very different in many aspects to the Amazigh realms), we barely know of a few notices of campaigns, interpreted contradictorily and barely complemented by an archaeology which is almost unable to discern one ethnoculture from another. I didn't know of Vandals "systematically persecuting Catholics" either. In any case you opened my mind to a period and region I was not even thinking I could find much info about. Definitely worth a "forgotten wars" chapter.

  • @Holybatman3603

    @Holybatman3603

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LuisAldamiz The Vandals were the most fanatical Arian tribe in their early days, Genseric particularly despied Christianity and made considerable efforts to suppress it in North Africa, his son Huneric took it to a new level and massacred 4,966 priests and clergymen in 483. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/4966_martyrs_d%27Afrique North Africa is a region of the world that is still shrouded in mystery because of the lack of archeological research there, even to this day there are still historical discoveries that are being made.

  • @neutralfellow9736
    @neutralfellow9736 Жыл бұрын

    superb stuff, shocking that so many still followed the dude lol

  • @EM-qr4kz
    @EM-qr4kz Жыл бұрын

    Agathocles laid the foundation of, "Base Race" we see today with terrans in starcraft xD

  • @Messiah114
    @Messiah114 Жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this, wow

  • @milesmanges
    @milesmanges Жыл бұрын

    Greek Elephants are the best elephants

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video History deliberately omitted from books 📖. As expeditionary force always have to have an exit policy.

  • @tommyt4259
    @tommyt4259 Жыл бұрын

    I'm ashamed to admit that I had no knowledge of this war. Great video

  • @maxnetirtimon4121
    @maxnetirtimon4121 Жыл бұрын

    The Greeks had invaded North Africa once before in 465BC they invaded Libya and Egypt who were already in open revolt against Artaxerxes I of Persia but were soundly defeated "both in land and sea" by an Acheamanid Army led by a Persian commander called Megabyzus

  • @stergioskatsibras8445

    @stergioskatsibras8445

    Жыл бұрын

    The Greeks didn't invade,the Athenians sent 6000 men with 200 ships to aid Egyptians (inarus) who had revolved against the Persians.

  • @maxnetirtimon4121

    @maxnetirtimon4121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stergioskatsibras8445 "who were already in open revolt against Artaxerxes I of Persia" This is exactly what I said And anyway, it does not change the fact that Inarus was a rebel and the Athenians attacked Achaemenid Egypt. and I believe every Trireme could carry up to 200 men so with 200 ships and simple math shouldn't they send at least 40,000 men?!

  • @stergioskatsibras8445

    @stergioskatsibras8445

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maxnetirtimon4121 they 6000 hoplites interfere in battle with the Persians alongside with the Egyptian rebels and they lost.

  • @maxnetirtimon4121

    @maxnetirtimon4121

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stergioskatsibras8445 Dude, how could they only be 6000 while their ship needed a minimum crew of 170 men and they sailed with 200 of those to Egypt?!

  • @stergioskatsibras8445

    @stergioskatsibras8445

    Жыл бұрын

    @maxnetir timon because the 6000 were heavy hoplites not marines the ships didn't interfere,that's the numbers that some of the ancient historians gave not me,maybe only 6000 disembark and the rest went to other expeditions

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252 Жыл бұрын

    Great story, however the timeline appears a bit skewed at points otherwise a fine take , a fine take indeed . Thx.

  • @wyattrota9070
    @wyattrota9070 Жыл бұрын

    Wow man, anything else on Syracuse or Carthage will be welcomed with open arms. Dope as hel

  • @rdf274
    @rdf274 Жыл бұрын

    “Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.”

  • @Stallion-EC
    @Stallion-EC Жыл бұрын

    First time I've been around during a upload. Noiiiiice. Y'all need more subs and stuff, I've been rewatching stuff at work over and over again. You ain't got the followers you deserve govnahs Edit: should be 3Mil+ tbh fam a lams Edit2: Senpais noticed me!

  • @InvictaHistory

    @InvictaHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words! We've got a lot of plans to expand our "Live History" and "True Size" series this year which hopefully keeps things fresh

  • @Stallion-EC

    @Stallion-EC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@InvictaHistory Y'all make content I can watch with family when I visit. How ever long it takes I'm gonna stay on board and push for others to watch. I legit think you and others could team up and teach schools. I know I'd be a better student if this stuff was common back then. I only wish I could donate and help fund y'all instead of just waiting. History is Great and you guys make everyone interested in it. I could never ask for more then that really

  • @sarahns9692
    @sarahns9692 Жыл бұрын

    After Oversimplified made a video on it the war is no longer forgotten lol

  • @Sprock49
    @Sprock49 Жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @salonez91
    @salonez91 Жыл бұрын

    Damn until now i always thought Hannibal was inventive genious. But actually syracuse tyrant commander did 1st what Hannibal did to Romans later, that is invade hartland and turn allies into enemies.

  • @cuthbertjolly4859
    @cuthbertjolly4859 Жыл бұрын

    Carthage had to defend themselves, and many times successfully from two of antiquities juggernauts Greece and Rome. What a great country.

  • @wankawanka3053

    @wankawanka3053

    11 ай бұрын

    Uh not really the first time they were only successful because of a greek mercenary the second time well ...

  • @pharaohmedjaylawofmedjay2680
    @pharaohmedjaylawofmedjay2680 Жыл бұрын

    Great Information Trust History We Need It Badly I Always wonder Did They Find Bones Artifacts Of Carthaginians Mixture Of Carthaginians That’s Awesome They Should Make Real Movie About This Two Nations an Battles Great Carthage My Heart Bleeds With Them

  • @BOSIE321
    @BOSIE321 Жыл бұрын

    Chariots prove useless and obsolete once again. To be fair i read one account of a general of Mithradtes the Pontic king who used chariots to good effect a couple of hundred years after this battle but you would think more armies would have caught on that they just weren't worth it anymore.

  • @NerdBryant64
    @NerdBryant64 Жыл бұрын

    I already heard about the Punic war from Oversimplified.

  • @josephhesse2634
    @josephhesse2634 Жыл бұрын

    Ancient navy seems to fight with waves more than enemies ☠️

  • @thegreekguy1124
    @thegreekguy1124 Жыл бұрын

    If Agathocles's son wasn't so bad of a commander the Roman Empire would have to beat the Greeks in the Punic wars

  • @nisarbo3781
    @nisarbo3781 Жыл бұрын

    Good video, however you omitted an important fact: The invasion of Carthaginian Africa was due to an act of desperation because after the defeat of Agathocles' army at the Himeras river in 311 BC Hamilcar moved not only his fleet to blockade Syracuse's harbour but also besieged the entire city with its 45.000 men army which ultimately lasted 2 years while the blockade lasted 4 years until 307 bc. The city was close to falling, thats why Agathocles took drastic meausures by performing a reversal operation since he reckoned that Africa must have had a small military presence at that point in time, thus he put all his chips on the table and it worked since they were caught off-guard. It ultimately prevented Syracuse's fall but his invasion in Aftica ended in defeat likewise leading to a deadlock.

  • @kukukaka968
    @kukukaka968 Жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @praiza1481
    @praiza1481 Жыл бұрын

    A few facts about Agathocles : The ancient historians are particularly hostile to him, especially Timaeus, an important source about fourth century BCE Sicily. He had been exiled from Syracuse by Agathocles, his works about him are thus heavily biased. And if this wasn't enough, Agathocles' many campaigns in his later years (after the war with Carthage) attracted many, many Italian mercenaries in the island, which heavily destabilized Sicily, a fact which many historians never forgave him for. The events in this video take place in the same time when the Diadochi vied for power in the East. A few years after the peace with Carthage, Ptolemy, Antigonos Monophtalmos, Lysimachos and the rest of the Successors would declare themselves kings, and Agathocles followed suit. He called himself _King in Sicily_ . He first married Theoxena, the step-daughter of Ptolemy, and then married his daughter Lanassa to Pyrrhos of Epirus. After a few month, he made her divorce her husband and remarried her to Demetrios Poliorcetes, who was by then King in Macedon. He died despised by all, his family was exiled from Syracuse, and all memory of him was purged from the city, something the Romans would later call _Damnatio Memoriae_ .

  • @TeutonicEmperor1198
    @TeutonicEmperor1198 Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure sooner or later those forces will collide again! I mean what else could happen? A force from central Italy to descend into Sicily and conquer both Carthage and Syracuse? Insanity!

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome Жыл бұрын

    This needs to be a computer game. Multiplayer.

  • @kilpatrickkirksimmons5016
    @kilpatrickkirksimmons5016 Жыл бұрын

    It's basically like you're banging on a guy's door and you see him jumping out a window and running away. Little by little you realize he's headed to your house lol

  • @watermelon_cat6056

    @watermelon_cat6056

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @guccihorsepiss2406
    @guccihorsepiss2406 Жыл бұрын

    This is insane. To me these acts rival those of Alexander, Hannibal, Napoleon, etc. Although these were on a smaller scale. History could have been very different.

  • @aleftwinggamer3950
    @aleftwinggamer3950 Жыл бұрын

    I hadn't forgotten.

  • @wankawanka3053
    @wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын

    After you are done the sicilian wars are you gonna do the syrian wars

  • @Liquidsback

    @Liquidsback

    Жыл бұрын

    Most detail from that is Raphia

  • @wankawanka3053

    @wankawanka3053

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Liquidsback he can just compile multiple of them then

  • @c0nstantin86
    @c0nstantin86 Жыл бұрын

    Background song pls???

  • @Jacknorth45
    @Jacknorth45 Жыл бұрын

    That’s a good war and the Greeks always messing up the end of a war for some reason haha - great vid

  • @user-jf6yv8rj2s
    @user-jf6yv8rj2s Жыл бұрын

    Next Punic-Sicilian wars are with Pyrrhus of Epirus?

  • @BoxStudioExecutive
    @BoxStudioExecutive Жыл бұрын

    Are you going to cover the 8th Sicilian war?

  • @InvictaHistory

    @InvictaHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    We were planning on wrapping it up here and releasing a compiled version of these 7 wars. The Pyrhhic war is definitely on our to-do list but would be its own thing

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 Жыл бұрын

    Next chapter: Pyrrhus' of Epirus's (who was Agathocles''s son in law, since Pyrrhus was married to Lanassa, Agathocles's daughter) campaign in Sicily, against Carthage!

  • @markdean1984
    @markdean1984 Жыл бұрын

    Just to make clear, the ancients didn’t use the term Africa the way we use it today. They didn’t know about continents and they didn’t have any knowledge about sub Sahara part of Africa. Sahara desert was called “ tera Incognita” - unknown land and Gibraltar the end of land

  • @williamrogers7676
    @williamrogers7676 Жыл бұрын

    This his why we should not debunk history but learn from it a make sure it does not happen in the future, 😊😊

  • @daniel-fs2ux
    @daniel-fs2ux Жыл бұрын

    History of Units of Athens, Infantry, Cavalry, Skirmishers, Navy, when?

  • @BringDHouseDown
    @BringDHouseDown Жыл бұрын

    I knew that there was a Greek city in Africa because if you play Rome Total War and I think Rome 2 Total War also had it, there was a greek city in present day Lybia in those games, so I figured the Greeks must of come there at some point and either intermingled with or subjugated the Phoenicians and descendants from the exodus of the Kingdom of Jerusalem at some point in the area. Didn't know they tried doing the same with Carthage.

  • @elbmw

    @elbmw

    Жыл бұрын

    Cyrenaica is a region in modern day Libya that was a Greek colony from the 7th century BC while there were also other Greek colonies nearby.

  • @BringDHouseDown

    @BringDHouseDown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@elbmw right that was the name of the city

  • @peterszeug308
    @peterszeug308 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen the Video, but is it about Belisarios and Justinianos fighting the Vandals and Goths?

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