Forgotten Secrets - Competitive History of Chameleon/Khameleon
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Both versions of this character have a long history of secret appearances and console exclusivity. But how good were they at high level and how did they work?
That's what this latest episode of Competitive History explores.
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Quick correction: Meat also has a launching D2. I'd forgotten that because Meat wouldn't really use the D2 as he has other launchers that are more practical in his gameplan! I can't escape meat anywhere I go, it seems.
@justacatwithghostlygibus9823
3 жыл бұрын
Whos next
@Scandal262
3 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@neglected1965
3 жыл бұрын
ScandalousSam lmao
@Iqzzy-KO
3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Reptile next? :)
@Tuhjaa
3 жыл бұрын
Charada is good for TAS content
Would you look at that... Khameleon makes her return in MK1 as a Kameo fighter.
I always thought MKA male Chameleon had one of the best designs in the entire franchise. The traditional ninja v-vest and the translucent skin was completely awesome.
@ShiftyGuy777
3 жыл бұрын
The headband makes it good too.
@nwobw
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShiftyGuy777 Yeah. I agree.
@gabrieltejada1697
2 ай бұрын
He was literally the ultimate MK Ninja and feels like he’s supposed to be a story fusion character that is meant to fight a powerful evil force that threatens the realms.
I think something worth a mention. Chameleon's debut was supposed to be in UMK3 - home ports edition. You can access an unfinished Chameleon with a game genie or Pro Action Replay code on the SNES, Genesis ports of UMK3. It's a Scorpion sprite with no special moves.
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
That's correct! I didn't include it because with this series I only do official appearances for the characters :)
@thehellion754
3 жыл бұрын
Next thing you know, Hipster Black Metal is into old Mortal Kombat
@jayjay-cl1eo
10 ай бұрын
I find it weird that in the genesis version of umk3 I played (I think it was a bootleg version since all the cheats where unlocked when the game booted) the male chameleon was in a black ninja suit and had masked sub zeros moves, but everyone else's gameplay of him in the genesis is in yellow with nothing
Would have been funny if, all these years later, they returned... but Khameleon was Switch Exclusive, just like her other two incarnations. She's a Nintendo fan through and through lmao
@kaelenkerr3509
3 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing, since I play the switch version and have never played the 3d area games
@ShrimpyWimpy666
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaelenkerr3509 u aren't a true mk fan then.
@kaelenkerr3509
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpyWimpy666 Oh, I'm not allowed to like 3D era mk games, what makes you the gatekeeper of what and what isn't a mk fan?
@quadnodsarelife
2 жыл бұрын
that would be cool and the pro scene wouldn’t change. Since she wouldn’t be available but it would give people a reason to get a switch version.
@yeet4323
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpyWimpy666 stop gatekeeping
That little gasp after the 101% damage combo was adorable and funny.
That 101% combo and the reaction..please take my like and respect. The dedication to produce this video, geez.
Chameleon is definitely the one character I am looking forward to seeing how they reintroduce in modern games. I would love to see him be added to MK11 as DLC.
@MrRadical87
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but would rather see Cyber-Mokap.
@TheODLawson23
3 жыл бұрын
There were rumors in the past that stated Chameleon was considered to be DLC for the MK11 Kombat Pack 1, but they replaced him with Shang Tsung.
@jasonparker3573
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying too as well chameleon is really good character if you know what how to use him properly and if you know all the characters that he changes into all of there moves
@ShiftyGuy777
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonparker3573 don't think they would do how MKT did it, at best it will be like how he did in Armageddon.
@jasonparker3573
3 жыл бұрын
My armageddon was one of my favorite games it had all the characters in the mortal kombat universe but it would definitely be cool to have chameleon in the game
16:17 EXCUSE ME DID THAT SAY 180%??
@oohboy8739
3 жыл бұрын
WTF??
@bakahentai9995
3 жыл бұрын
DAMN...
@Khan-fi7wf
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is impressive
@bigdoinks8123
3 жыл бұрын
Damn. If that ever happened to me in an actual match I would deposit my console in the garbage
@darkseid2405
3 жыл бұрын
Big Doinks damn me too honestly... like how tf??
I thought I was alone in this world for loving chameleon so much, but this video made my day, thank you so much for all your effort and my best regards to you from Argentina
@ballsmcgee2674
3 жыл бұрын
Me too I felt so alkne
@Ark9music.
3 жыл бұрын
Gracias a dios los mugens de hoy en día les dedicaron pasión y cariño a estos dos personajes jajaja
@Ark9music.
3 жыл бұрын
Gracias a dios los mugens de hoy en día les dedicaron pasión y cariño a estos dos personajes jajaja
@cacomellucci8174
2 жыл бұрын
Nashe
Wait... Nightwolf was S+ in Trilogy?! For that alone, you could cover him next. Amazing job as always 😁
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
Nightwolf was really strong in almost every version of UMK3 style games. Crazy good character
@dudunikolaishvili8096
3 жыл бұрын
@@PNDKM I'm always curious of the tier lists of the 3D games, did they change or remained consistent throughout, i.e. Some characters are always strong or weak, or are they different in each game
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
@@dudunikolaishvili8096 Yeah! Some tools would change quite significantly going into armageddon, plus some general gameplay differences would also make a big impact. I'll have to look into it again but some characters were excellent in DA/Deception but weak in MKA. It's one of the biggest things Im going to find out about going into my other MK Metas.
@dudunikolaishvili8096
3 жыл бұрын
@@PNDKM Awesome, Will MKGOLD be checked as well? I'm really curious how broken that game is
@booce6969
3 жыл бұрын
Scorpion was top 3 in every 3d mk game, bo rai cho was top 2 in MKDA and MKD, but mid in MKA, Drahmin was very good in MKDA and MKA
This channel is the best source of MK gameplay content, I love it so much.
@codymurda09
3 жыл бұрын
You arent lying man ..... Would love to lose to them on some mk4 and ultimate mk3 lol
@FlynnJeux
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not saying "Kontent" lol.
@modest1989
3 жыл бұрын
It honestly is. Their are so many channels that even if decent content and genuine it comes off as really forced and an act just for the clicks. This is just straight forward mk love and an insane amount of knowledge this channel puts into it's a content. Love it
@draven4897
3 жыл бұрын
T
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlynnJeux it was like 1am, I was too tired to think about that joke haha
Chameleon is such a cool character, so much potential.
@tylermatthew349
9 ай бұрын
He needs to be playable mk1 but guess not disappointed 😒
You can't lie sheeva's scream is so disturbing lol
Armageddon Chameleon is one of the most swagger characters I’ve ever seen
I hope Chameleon and Khameleon returns they have so much potential it's baffling neither Midway or Netherrealm Studios didn't expand on their characters both Chameleon and Khameleon being Saurians can help out Reptile story a lot more as they are the last of their race.
I hope K/Chameleon characters in newest timeline are they're twins that rival each others
The male and female C/Khameleon were totally wasted potential for MK11 and it's custom move pool setup. Instead their main gimmick was given to Shang Tsung, which was a very strange aspect in the long run.
Chameleon and Khameleon really should return they can flesh out Reptile story more about Saurians they should have been actual characters in Mortal Kombat Deception.
@WayToGoChamp
9 ай бұрын
Oh man you're gonna love MK1
@tylermatthew349
9 ай бұрын
@@WayToGoChampyea we get it it female khameleon who cares big deal she not gotta be fully playable only kameo man 😒
@WayToGoChamp
9 ай бұрын
@@tylermatthew349 I was also referring to Reptile and the Saurians getting fleshed out more
@tylermatthew349
9 ай бұрын
@@WayToGoChamp an cut the bullshit she gotta be kameo not playable 😒
@WayToGoChamp
9 ай бұрын
@@tylermatthew349 cope and seethe bozo who cares
im shocked this video is nearly 20m long. should be interesting! haha
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
I always get surprised by the end length. If I make these kind of videos I want to try and leave no stone unturned. I thought this one would be faster than most but ended up being just as long because of all the Khameleon MKA research I had to do.
@TimStatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@PNDKM awesome, I just figured a video about this character wouldn't be that long but I should know better by now! You guys never disappoint!
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimStatic I have to go through many ancient forum posts and videos LOL. TYM threads still exist which is wild
@sheageeknami
3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the 3D era versions really inspired MK 11's Shang. If Kh/Ch came to a new MK game, how would you like their gameplay mechanics to be?
you have made me legitimately interested in playing this character. your content is so kickass!
Who is here after seeing the QUAN-CHI/KHAMELEON trailer for MK1?
I miss the Chameleons. They were like the Mokujin of MK
I'm really hoping they bring both Chameleons into the newer MKs especially Khameleon seeing as how she was a console exclusive and if they do I hope she's available on all platforms so she can get a chance to be in the spotlight for competitive
@inkwap
10 ай бұрын
Good news and bad news
@tylermatthew349
28 күн бұрын
We got female kameo but she not playable an male chameleon was supposed to be mk12 I thought it was confirmed but not for mk1 he’s dead already people 😒
They need to bring chameleon back
wow, 20 minutes for an after thought character. your vids go in depth.
@Guadalajara1937
2 жыл бұрын
Tf you doin here
I want chameleon in mk 12
Loved him growing up in MKA. Always thought he had a really cool design as apart from the rest in that game
Adding either c/khameleon to mk11 would make me forgive netherrealm for what they did to Ermac and the cyborg ninjas.
@whitelasagna6786
2 жыл бұрын
Never forgive.
I love how much you cover Armageddon in these videos.
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
I have to for old characters because they all appeared in it!
@sniperidc8852
3 жыл бұрын
Armageddon is a great game
I like the touch of genuine reactions from Ryan in the past two videos, added some really nice comedy and levity amid the informative content
That gasp after that combo is adorable.
Absolutely love these videos. I will say though, I am excited for the day that we get a Competitive History on one of the MK main stays. That'll be a long story for sure lol.
Prime, quality content as usual from the condiment brothers. I never expect anything less than expertly made videos and I'm never disappointed. Keep up the great work guys!
@Shiratto
3 жыл бұрын
Now I’m wondering if there’s a Relish out there that loves to play the cyber reptile from MK 9 challenge tower.
I wish NRS would bring them back.
The biggest Forgotten Secret of these characters is how this character breakdown isnt part of the playlist on the channel. I saw it recommended, saw that i liked the video, but dont think i actually watched it when it first was uploaded. Thanks recommended for returning this to me lol.
Absolutely love this channel, great insightful overview on the C/Khameleons!
If Chameleon were to come back, one thing I would want is to have Chameleon stick with the cyan vest, but every time he does a move, the headband changes color based on the move's owner. An additional recommendation would be to give Chameleon unique variations of the moves to call them their own.
1:08 Hol on Chameleon, lemme take a break.
I mostly remember Chameleon as that guy who fought with Akuma in Proxicide's MK vs SF 3
Honestly, I’d love for a competitive history on Jax, Kenshi or Mileena. Great work K&M, you guys do some amazing work for the MK community!
These videos are amazing. I hope you keep this up with more characters!
My personal favorite MK character. This video was awesome. Thank you for showing love to the obscure!
Wow this brings back so many fun memories thanks for uploading.
Love to see that I'm not alone with this. Like for real Chameleon in MKA was my childhood hero because when I first picked him, I actually managed to beat my big brother for the first time. Ever since then he became my "spirit animal" XD. So glad you covered this man.
This charecter needs to return at some point cause they were so cool
@GmNdWtchr96
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be fine with Khameleon being similar to Soul Eater Shang Tsung but for the missing Female Ninjas.
I really love the Armageddon designs of Chameleon and Khameleon. Hope the two come back playable someday. Honestly, I don't see why the former wasn't chosen instead of Shang Tsung in MK11 since he mimic moves from, you know. . . . . . .THE OTHER NINJAS! 😐
Glad you're giving Chameleon recognition, he's my favorite in spite of not appearing a bunch lol
Really been enjoy your Competitive History series.
Thanks for the vid! Hope these characters will return in near future!
I am so glad I found this channel. I love the effort and content you do.
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I love that you made a video about the chameleons!
16:16 51 hits, damage: Over 9000
Plot twist: K/Chameloen has been in every single cutscene ever, they just werent seen 😂
Thank you! This was so much better and more informative than another similar channel you may know
I love these ! Thank you!
I didn't like the air combat but watching this video reminded me how much I liked playing Armageddon.
The only reason I know of Chameleon is from a sprite animation "Akuma vs Chameleon".
I did enjoy seeing these two appearing in MK9, even though it was just in the background. Along with skarlet, it made it feel like they actually had a Canon role in the story, even if just a small part, but we just weren't able to play or experience it.
You guys are really great kontent kreators. Keep up the good work
Man seeing mk3 smoke takes me back.
great video, you guys continue to be an inspiration for my channel! keep up the good work
@PNDKM
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :D
My favorite ongoing series on YT....and man do I watch a lot so that’s saying something
I played armageddon for the first time yesterday and oh boy playing chameleon is a blast
I actually went back to the older games when i found out my main Chameleon was from them. I actually took the time to learn all the ninjas just to be able to be crazy with him. My friends even hated when i played him because they rarely got a win 😅
I need this character in MK11 so much. It would be great if NRS add Chameleon or even Khamelion. I would main them both.
@chadcarroll550
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-fx6dz6wo3g Yeah but you get what he means
Love these keep em coming! I really want to see tsang tsung
I like the idea of khameleons being an idea of fighters prowess lingering and not an actual living being
WOAAHHH *real reaction to your %101 combo*
Shang tsung is basically chameleon In mk11
Came up in my reccomended, was not disappointed.
Is there any way you could do a video about the history of guest characters? Anyways, love the content man
the way I actually remember it on mortal Kombat trilogy he would cycle through all the ninjas but you had control over which one he would turn into when using the special moves
I love both
Wow I'm so glad I found your channel I've been watching all your mk videos Even though I'm a casual I've been playing mk since mk 1 to mk11
5 hours, but the pay off was a touch of death. I could totally see Ketchup get his revenge by landing that on Meat.
Today I learned Khameleon existed.
6:13 That is a VERY interesting tier list. I haven't really played the PS version so idk how good the legacy characters are. Really want to know about Baraka, seems odd.
@redmage076
3 жыл бұрын
the baraka has a combo in the corner of the screen with the blade spin move that takes 80% of the character's life and is also the only character that can attack while the player is holding the block button (this according to the owner of the tier list) kzread.info/dash/bejne/nK6Dlrece6nQpcY.html
Such an interesting character
chameloen is the best ninja ever!!!
I want them both back ngl
them combos are sick
Wow I always thought his color change was random when I was a kid
would you recommend playing the Wii version over the other versions of this game?
@danyaprosto5125
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mikemanners118
3 жыл бұрын
the ps2 version can still be played online with a little know how
@no64256
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikemanners118 yeah, but you can also play the Wii version online using Dolphin (a GameCube/Wii emulatoru)
NGL Ketchup, your videos on MK Trilogy and the unique characters from it got to buy the game on eBay, and I'm a more casual MK fan. Keep up the good work!
I imagine these characters could make a comeback in mk11, since they seem to like bringing back characters from the past (such as rain)
This made me want to play Shang Tsung
You guys are awesome
I think it's a missed opportunity that characters like K/Chameleon and Shujinko weren't even considered for MK11, what with their powers revolving around having a widely varied moveset based on other characters. To me, it's a no brainer and would have made for some cool variety. But, you know, "DUURRRRR! ITS UNBALANCED," cries the modern MK community/FGC. So no fun allowed.
The only competitive history vid to not be in the playlist
Both Chameleon and Khameleon will always be two of my 15+ most favorite MK characters of all time.
I dont even play mk but i love watching the twins videos.
If you can support patreon , watch the ads for him because this is some hard work !
You should do a armageddon series where you look at the competitive side of all the armageddon characters
Love u boi
Put this one in your playlist.
Another awesome piece of MK history, love that ❤️ Can't wait for MK Meta series about MK: Deception 💪🏼
If you keep tapping backwards in armageddon as chameleon, I rank his walk on a scale just as weird as Voldo in soul calibur lol
not gonna mention it took years to find the kombat kode to unlock khameleon in n64
As of 2023 its been confirmed that Mortal Kombat 1 will have the female Khameleon as a DLC Kameo fighter, just thought I'd mention it.