Not trying to be a jerk but this video implied that route 66 went through KC, Kansas and SE Colorado according to the map. It did not. It went from Chicago, to St. Louis, down to Springfield MO, THEN accross OK to the west. One of the major proponents of creating RT 66 was from Springfield Mo and insisted it go through there.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're not a jerk! You may have not understood the video properly since it just focuses on the Cajon Pass. What you saw is the National Old Trails Road, not Rt 66. See our full story www.backroadswest.com/blog/forgotten-path-route-66/ or read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Old_Trails_Road

@shannonfrench6893

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out Geoff. I was born in Springfield and my best friend and I just did the short leg of old 66 between Springfield and Joplin this May in his SS Camaro. I remember my Dad driving us down 66 when I was a kid and his Dad took him on a 66 tour when he was a kid but we never drove it together except a section of W. 7th Street in Joplin in 1979 in a '66 Chevelle. We're going to do the whole highway a section at a time due to time restraints. But Springfield is considered the "Birthplace of the Mother Road" and I think it's cool I was born there, just 2 miles south of 66 where US 65 intersects with US 60. Going to write a song about that! We did a video called The Highway on our KZread channel Flatt Blagg Music.

@serokitty4068

Жыл бұрын

Geoff, you are right. The video does imply that Route 66 uses the Old National Trails road through Kansas. The video says…Route 66 used this route of Old National Trails road. We were like…no, Route 66 does not go through Kansas. We almost stopped watching the video.

@shannonfrench6893

Жыл бұрын

@@serokitty4068 when you leave Joplin, Missouri headed west on 7th Street (old U.S. 66) it takes you right across the Kansas border into Galena, Kansas then it jogs southwest to Baxter Springs then you cross the Oklahoma line. I was born in Springfield, Missouri and had family in Oklahoma so I remember riding on it then. Since I got older I have driven almost all of 66 that's left. Thanks for the comment!

@SooSmokie

Жыл бұрын

@@serokitty4068 Not just imply, but 2:31 blatantly says it used it. He even highlighted it in red

Having been born and raised in California until I was 23, I had no idea that many of the old dirt roads were actually quite historical and had a lot of stories behind them. This is so cool

@amandastevenson4948

Жыл бұрын

Went skiing in wrightwood all the time I remember that moved when I was 26 to Ottawa Canada 1993

Grandma Valda told me years ago about when they moved from Arizona to Salinas in Dust Bowl days. She said they were coming down the Cajon Pass in spring of 1933, and she said, "Look Gordon, someone has a trailer just like ours!" Grandpa Gordon realized there was no vehicle towing that trailer - IT WAS THEIR TRAILER, rolling down the pass next to them!! Grandpa somehow got that old Ford pickup in front of the trailer and stopped it. She said what happened was the man who they'd paid at the trailer sales to weld the hitch on hadn't done a good job, and it had come off. Some old guy who lived up on the pass stopped, went back to his place, brought equipment, fixed it and sent them on their way. Despite them trying to pay him, he refused; told them, "We got hunnerds of you Okies comin' through here every day; my wife says we should help you poor people, 'cause 'but by the Grace of God there goes you and I.'" He even offered to let the family stay at his home for the night, but they felt like they'd already taken enough.

@5crassrocker

3 жыл бұрын

People used to be nicer back then. Sure there was segregation, but good Christian folk were all over. Seems God in country was much better.

@doobielawson702

Жыл бұрын

This is an excellent story, thank you for sharing!

@drgruber57

Жыл бұрын

Wow! What a great story, Cheryl! Thanks!

@cherylpemberton1676

Жыл бұрын

@@5crassrocker, Thank you!! I agree, people were kinder, more sympathetic to those less fortunate; it seems like so many have lost that empathy and softness in their souls, the generosity that costs so little, or nothing but their time isn't given as freely any more. In the early 90's I was traveling with my children to see my family back in California (I had moved out to Oklahoma with my ex-husband who I'd met here when he was stationed at Fort Ord, and we'd moved there after he got out of the Army), and got a flat tire on I-40 in Northwestern New Mexico. A tow truck stopped as I was removing the tire, and insisted on finishing changing it for me. When he put the spare tire on, it was FLAT (thanks jerk ex-husband, he did these kind of things on purpose!) This VERY kind man drive my children, old tire and I to the next very tiny town alongside the freeway, where the tire shop was owned by his brother-in-law. This guy then insisted on selling me a nearly-new tire, mounted, and balanced it, then took us back to my pickup and put it on for us - all for only $10.00!!!! I was so moved, I cried! He just hugged me and my children, told me if we're ever traveling in that area again and need anything, or just need a place to rest, to please stop in and say hello!! His kindness still brings tears to my eyes, and I've said hundreds of prayers for him and the tow truck driver over these years!! If only our world were filled with more like them: humble, good people!!

@cherylpemberton1676

Жыл бұрын

@@doobielawson702, I thank YOU for your kind comment, I'm truly humbled and grateful!!

Every now and then the youtube algorithm recommends a hidden gem like this. Subscribed! Thanks for this.

@gsdfan8455

3 жыл бұрын

Love when the algorithm does a good turn

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@mackey-5438

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I also subscribed today to this hidden KZread gem.

@dvgayle1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, they should have many more subs.

@chrisbaker7067

3 жыл бұрын

@@gsdfan8455 q+

I spend almost 5 years on the road with my Harley-Davidson, camping every night. Got to explore sections of Route 66 where it is preserved, and was amazed cars could fit on the narrow road. I rode 50 from the bridge in Ocean City MD to Sacramento CA. I crossed the country another time on as much of Old Highway 40 as possible. Found quite a few federal campsites, often under Corps of Engineers administration, sometimes Bureau of Land Management. Even found the only National Wildlife Service preserve in the country with full service campsites. It had an interesting history of how it came to be. From NW Washington I dropped down on historic highways and ended up in Sturges SD. But I stayed on paved roads other than short country roads that lead to campgrounds. Touched every state of the Union except Hawaii.

@roxyjae4596

3 жыл бұрын

Yy/y

@saludanite

3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of space out there. People in the cities just don't know about it... to their own personal loss.

@antonbruce1241

3 жыл бұрын

@Gypsy JR I am SO jealous!!!! I would almost KILL to be able to drive more of Route 66 than what's available here in Southern California!!!! I'm driven on Foothill Blvd to San Bernardino, up Cajon Blvd to the 15, got off at the Kenwood exit, and drove the old section back to the 15 at the Cleghorn Exit. In 2015, someone FINALLY had the two sections of Route 66 so that you can now drive from Santa Monica all the way though Cajon Pass. You can see an updated KZread video about this section of Route 66 here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIWYrKatgrPOp8Y.html In Oak Hills, you can catch the old route 66 road from the Summit Inn all the way into Victorville, and then you can take Route 66 into Barstow. That's as far as I've gone on the route here in California. But man...I am DYING to drive as much of it as I can while I'm still above ground. Again, Gypsy...I envy you for being able to make that journey.

@jtm12180

3 жыл бұрын

Good lord, that must have been amazing. Sure hope I'm able to do something like this some day

@jtm12180

3 жыл бұрын

@@antonbruce1241 - agreed! I've done a good bit from Flagstaff to around Victorville. Waze was showing miles of traffic down toward Cajon Pass so we ended up west on SR-18, then 138....somehow we ended up on the "Rim of The World Highway," so it actually ended up working out. But I'd like to do Victorville to the end someday, and of course from Chicago to Flagstaff :)

Aww, so sorry to hear about the Summit! As 'displaced' californios, when I drove semis I always stopped and bought a whole Boysenberry pie to bring back to share with my dad. I'm so glad we got to share a few before, like so many great memories, it faded into obscurity. I feel mighty lucky to have been raised in cali in the 60s. It was a golden age that we'll never see again.

@TrukNLife316

Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing it and a lot of cars would stop there but until the “blue fire” burned it down and almost the whole pass was burnt and some of the 138 too.

@KevinSmith-yh6tl

Жыл бұрын

Yep, Way to many Leftist SJWs moved in and destroyed the state.

@vw1610

Жыл бұрын

I was born in 84. This state is a dumpster fire. I’ll most likely move out sooner than later. SoCal is too expensive

@KevinSmith-yh6tl

Жыл бұрын

@@vw1610 👍

@kurtvanluven9351

9 ай бұрын

I had never been there and last trip I got off the 15 and NOBODY TOLD ME. I parked there some rime before my allergies quit.

This was wonderful for me. Now a 75 year old, I grew up in the LA basin, living in Duarte in my late first decade. I remember the Cajon pass from trips with my parents. This brought back those early years, including driving up the pass from the LA basin with a canvas bag of water strapped to the front of the car, in case of over-heating. Thanks "for the memories"!

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And thanks for commenting.

@willg54

Жыл бұрын

Haha, I remember those old canvas bags well.

@EMILYHERRERA

Жыл бұрын

What kind of car were you traveling in?

@johnbarbuto5387

Жыл бұрын

@@EMILYHERRERA One characteristic of that time, prior to antifreeze (which also protects against heat and radiator rust) was that radiators would rust and need to be "boiled out". A major transformation in the auto industry happened when the Japanese cars began to appear in the American market. Japanese cars were built to last and had great repair records. American cars were built with big engines and small brains. So, Americans started to buy Japanese cars. American manufacturers - facing obsolescence - changed their ways. Now we have a very different auto industry. So, my comments from my childhood on Cajon pass were spawned with recollection of being in some kind of American car of the time.

I have hunted quail here and this video is very well mapped. I like at the end where he shows you these areas on Google Earth. Again, very well done.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. Sorry I couldn't add quail and chucker locations on the map!!

Nice to see you providing info on the old, almost forgotten roads that were the precursors to our modern highways. Still sad that the Summit Inn is gone. I like your quote at 5:39 where you say, “The pavement ends and the past begins.“ Very cool!

Man-o-man did you ever toss me deep into the _"Way Back Machine."_ I grew up (such that I did) in Victorville in the 70s and returned from the Navy in the late 80s to attend university at CSUSB in the 90s. I am very familiar with the area and you still taught me a great deal. You also broke my heart with all the history that is gone forever. I have many fond memories of the Summit Inn (the cheese burger was okay) We would take that 'cut from the SI to Cleghorn road to bypass the CHP road closures. If we just wanted to avoid them we would continue under the I15 and come out near Devore. I used to be able to get from Barstow to LA or San Diego with no interstates and few highways using mostly surface streets, going through Palmdale too. I can't even begin to tell you the memories this brings up. It also tells me there is no longer anything left for me in California. I left 16 years ago, but it is no longer the place I remember... it is no longer home. California is doomed she as has abandoned her history for unknown reasons. I have it on good authority from a guy that did the dynamite work for I40 that that cut was indeed with pick, shovel and dynamite. He took me and another guy out on the Mormon trail and he wrote a book about that area. message me and I'll tell you his name and the name of his book. He has long since passed on.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Back in the '80s, if we needed to totally bypass I-15, if you had a 4WD, you were able to drive under the tunnel where the PCT comes out of Crowder Canyon, and then hook up to old 66 of Cleghorn. But now there are big gates there.

@mjwbulich

Жыл бұрын

Californians history and especially the history of southern California is a about change; constant change. Los Angeles isn't the place I grew up in. It's not the place my mother grew up in . It's not the place my grandmother grew up in. It's not the place my great grandmother grew up in. It's not the place my great great grandfather immigrated to 140 years ago. LA has always been a place much more interested in the future than in the past.

@Genise1313dirtydino

Жыл бұрын

Bet you were familiar with the Screaming Chicken?😉 🐔

I was born and raised in New Mexico - Las Vegas to be exact = New Mexico. The Santa Fe railroad arrived in 1879. Six years later - 1885 - it reached the Cajon Pass - the tracks in your video! My cousin was the registered nurse on the train - LA to Chicago in the late 40's. EVERY Hollywood star road those tracks to New York.

I've been going up and down the pass for many years and didn't realize such history was hidden in plain sight. Great informative video!

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! There's a lot more history in the Cajon than just this one road.

I don't know how interested you are in historic California roads, but Henness Pass Road, off Highway 89 North, up above Truckee, has a pretty fascinating history. It was basically put in place after that whole Donner Party fiasco, and it was the main highway over the mountains for decades. That fact its still there, albeit mostly paved from Jackson Meadows dam to Highway 89, is a testament to how good those early road-builders were.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Yes, I've explored SR 89 north of Truckee years ago. So many roads, so little time!

I have lived in Riverside all my life, I've eaten at all the dinners you feature many times. I have been on the old route 66 through the pass in my 4X4 many times. The one thing I did not know about, was the toll road wagon trail, that is fascinating. Thank you so much.

@garyfrancis6193

3 жыл бұрын

“You have eaten” all the dinners “or “at all the diners”? This is where American illiteracy causes a problem.

@5150GSD

3 жыл бұрын

@@garyfrancis6193 Holly smokes! A cyber grammar stocker. That's actually funny. lol I'm going to give you a like to inspire you. :)

@chrispafrieddreams9118

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyfrancis6193 I knew you meant "Diners"...

@mescko

Жыл бұрын

@@5150GSD You mean 'stalker', don't you?

@5150GSD

Жыл бұрын

@@mescko What it really was dictating into an iPhone. I didn't really proofread before I posted it. The guy really didn't have to be a d--k about it. But it was amusing how petty people can be. 😁

Grew up San Bernardino and have been all over those fire roads, but that is one I had never been on. I am shocked that I never heard of that old road. We used to drag race on route 66 between Muscoy and Palm Av. Kendall Dr. exit 50 off I-15. The starting line was right about where 5th Ave. is now, and Cimmeron was not there back then. The Highway Patrol was cool about it, they always came up from town with their red lights on warning us it was over.

@50buttfish

3 жыл бұрын

Take I-15 N, to 138 east, approx 3.5 miles, on the left (AT THE POWER LINES-it's tricky and the traffic is a bear). Follow up past the train tracks, at the top, a junction, go LEFT! til you come out at the Freeway.

I have completed 40+ years and over 2 million miles as a tractor trailer driver in part because of my love and fascination of travel via land ! Part of what I loved most was my travel on the Golden Road in northern Maine and gave me a tiny glimpse into what people dealt with 100 plus years ago ! Nice 👍🏼 work !

@af25985330

3 жыл бұрын

In 1975, I traveled from Lewisport Newfoundland to Amarillo, Texas, One of the favorite areas was northern Maine, another was western PA, Great trip all the way.

@michaelcraig9449

3 жыл бұрын

Maine is the greatest!

@jimrossi7708

3 жыл бұрын

Chuck Light , one of my favorites was a Great Northern Paper run from Millinocket, Maine to Laredo Texas which was about 2,900 miles, I enjoyed that run much !

@jimrossi7708

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Flynn , I received safety awards for driving without having a accident and some companies give out million miles awards for hitting that’s magic mark, but I guess a million wouldn’t be that difficult in a jet plane, stay safe sir !

@stopglobalswarming

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Flynn you get to keep your job

I love these videos. They remind me of family road trips in the 60s and 70s.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying them!

No more date shakes at the top of the pass. I remember with Hilda was running the place still, may she rest in peace. So much nostalgia, I grew up in Oak Hills and literally spent my early adulthood driving a lot of these off-highway routes.

Lived in Hesperia for 4 years. Up and down the Cajon everyday ... Thanks for the memories

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Lived in Spring Valley Lake for 30 years! So we used to know all those roads real well.

@janetgalyean5420

3 жыл бұрын

I was the last truck to fuel at. Nasty Newt's, outpost truck stop. Stoped their for years.😀🇺🇸

This is a fantastic demonstration of the vastness of the USA. Old abandoned roads allowed to decay. Over 40 years ago I used to spend every other weekend walking and camping in North Wales. We travelled the same road everytime. There are now newer larger roads serving that route up to halfway, the old route is still maintained and used because there isn't the space to leave it unused.

@DeflatingAtheism

3 жыл бұрын

Wales: Where the roads are short but the names are long.

Wow you must have put a lot of hours into production of this video I really appreciate it thanks;

It's good to see people appreciating the history of our country and remembering the old days. I wish to see these and other historical passes and routes. Thank you.

Great video. Plenty of layers of history here! It's interesting that the railroads have maintained the oldest tracks as well.

@lanefrank6208

3 жыл бұрын

At slightly over 3%, this track (1885) is used for downhill traffic but on occasion is used for uphills too. Sullivan's curve was built in the 1920's to alleviate the stiff grade of the 1885 route by adding around two miles of track to bring the grade down to 2%.

Summit was a great place to stop in the 50's, 60's, and 70's to cool down your radiator and add water if necessary. Finishing the trek up the pass. Lived in SoCal for 38 years before moving to southern Arizona in the mid 80's. Worked for the UPRR as a Locomotive Engineer from 1977 to 1985. At that time Union Pacific had track rightage with the Sante Fe RR and the UP ended up in Yermo, Ca. The UPRR track in your video was owned by the Southern Pacific RR and went to the Colton then to Los Angeles. Thanks for the memories!

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for commenting.

Great idea to summarize with a google earth flyover.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys! Yes, I'm glad I learned the tricks in Google Earth to give viewers a better sense on where things are.

@williamgolden839

3 жыл бұрын

That is a great feature

@KurtfromLaQuinta

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Well done.

"We won't explain how to get there because it's too difficult to get too"... Now that's my kind of motivation.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, it's actually not too difficult. You have to cross several RR tracks and the likelihood of getting stuck behind one is high. I was simply running out of video time and it really didn't add to the story.

@brentsmith7021

3 жыл бұрын

@@BackRoadsWest1 . I just found it humorous because during your presentation I was thinking a road trip would be fun... and then the "hard to find" part made me think "whew that was a close one!". I found the video (and since then others you've produced) well put together and i enjoy watching them. Thank you for the effort for those of us that are "motivationally challenged"!

@DeflatingAtheism

3 жыл бұрын

I'm over here on the East Coast, but immediately set about finding that white monument on Google Earth. 😀

@owenphil

3 жыл бұрын

@@BackRoadsWest1 Was intrigued by that also ; can’t you just take Wagon Train road past the gas station and McDonalds, park behind the truck scales, and then walk a few hundred yards on the Pacific Crest Trail, under I-15 and the railroad tracks, and there you are at the burned down historic site ? Great video in any case, I love picking up interesting stories in random videos like this.

@JoshuaTootell

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I run this section of PCT often @@owenphil

Solid virtual tour. Good explanations, level of detail, and pacing. Total thumbs up!

Thank you for sharing and keeping the past forgotten historical history remembered 🤔

I lived at the Summit for many years. 1 mile from the Inn. It's like everything else in California, rotting away and a sad reminder as what used to be.

Like Bill said great video . Love learning the history of California!

Thank you for this tidbit of bygone historical trail ways. 🚧

Comfort and joy, your videos provide.

Wow, fantastic tour and history, thank you so much!! Really loved how you referenced the map and included labels in the video during the drive making it very easy to relate to the map!!! 👍🏼😃❤️

Love how you explained it and did the labeling! Very nice work

Wow just stumbled across your channel and I'm loving it. I grew up in this area and as a child my grandparents took us out told us we were going treasure hunting. We would find old silverware and log cabins syrup tins in the old washes where the pioneers stopped on their way west to Los Angeles. It was a great revisit watching this video. I am now a subscriber and I'm very excited to see more. :-) thank you for the little history lesson in an area that I used to consider my backyard.

I spent my teen years in Hesperia, California. I’ve travelled every dirt road and old hwy in the area. This video brings back memories. Thanks!

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!

I used to live in Phelan, west of I-25. I've done that road, it was nice. Thanks for the updates. I was all over Cajon Pass. I lived in Phelan and worked in Hesperia and then in San Bernardino for ten years.

Lived in Apple Valley 40 years ago scared me to death when I went down the hill. Don't miss Cajon pass.....lol

A nice bit of history. Thank you.

In the 1930s travelers would have to wait about a week after a rain to go from Flagstaff to Kingman in northern Arizona on route 66. The road was clay and would turn to mud after a rain, and would take several days to dry out. This was ,of course, before the road was paved.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

And they called those the "good old days"! Nevertheless, I'd love to have a time machine to travel these old roads in their heyday...

Thanks for keeping some of the old history alive I have been up there many times very interesting.

Thats a lot of history in such a short piece of roadway!! Thank You,

Well done story and report. If my memory is correct, as a kid, in the 1950's our family would take the Cajon Pass. On the way home from the back side of Big Bear Lake to San Gabriel Valley area where we lived. We stopped to visit a relative who worked in a mine at night and raised chickens during the day. I caught a quick view of Lake Arrowhead on your map. I recall Big Bear was further east. Thanks for the memory.

Thank you. Very kind of you, we appreciate it.

Outstanding production. Thank You

You have me and my metal detector excited. . . . . .Been looking for a good trail thru the Cajon Pass. . .

Solid production and informative content. Too bad only about 0.1% of KZread offerings are similarly substantial. Thanks for a job well done.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Definitely a primary reason why I go the extra several miles to put out a good production.

@pacz8114

3 жыл бұрын

@@BackRoadsWest1 ...and the effort is appreciated. I knew of an older friend from my childhood, long since passed on, who travelled from Iowa to Los Angles in 1916 (when he was 5 years old). He described the National Old Trails Road with the Red White and Blue signs, which he said were painted on phone poles, gates, fences and such -- "you'd have to look for them to make sure you remained on route..." He also stated that crossing the eastern California desert was, at its most challenging, reduced to "following two tracks in the sand..." He said gas stations were few and far between, so most of the time they bought gas from farmers along the way.

My old stomping grounds, love to see it again!!

Beautifully done! Thank you for your work on this video!

Next to Baker, the Cajon Pass is one of my favorite parts of the drive from SD to Vegas. I also love the Route 66 sites along the 40 east towards Needles. Thanks for the attention to detail in your tour. The Google flyover at the end really summed it all up well.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting!

Awsum Cajon History 👍🏻🇺🇸🤠... It was Sad to see The Summit Inn was Gone When The Big Fire Blasted on Though The Cajon Pass... Stay Safe Out There 👍🏻🤠🇺🇸

@coleparker

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was through there when the fire hit. I was on my way home to Ridgecrest. I ate there a number of times when I lived in Pinon Hills.

Awesome! I drove Route 66 in 2007, and planned that trip for YEARS by reading old books, studying maps, and even spending time on Google Earth. I drove part of the dirt roads you mentioned, but I was in a VW Jetta at the time, so I didn't get far and turned around to continue on my trip. I stopped at the Summit Inn many times in the years after and am glad I got to experience it before it burned down. Last time I ate there was 2012. Thanks for the video, I'll be going back there when I get a vehicle with better ground clearance.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Thank You, Nicely done, and this journey is now on my BUCKET LIST.

I know this. I know it very well from my time living in the upper desert. I was very sad to see the area burn a few years ago. I used to get kicked out by railroad police. They were good guys. Lots of troubles they had w criminals. The pass is magical, dangerous and down right terrifying at times. I moss the place. Sadly, I remember how wooded the pass used to be.

I used to enjoy many lunches at the Summit inn!

I drive the Cajon everyday for work, Adelanto to Corona. I’m definitely going to take the family on this little journey. I had no idea the old route was there. I love driving Old Route 66 “ Cajon Blvd” even when traffic is bad, 1930s essential playlist on my iPhone and I’m set😀. Thank you for sharing!!

Thank you for a great and informative video. I would love to take this route next time just to see the old way up.

It's good that these places are being recorded and remembered, otherwise they vanish and the future loses them and their history. These trails can be kept recorded for literally thousands of years. Watling Street in England is one such. It stretched for hundreds of miles, and though much of it is still broadly in use today as modern roads, there are sections that were bypassed, built over and otherwise forgotten over many centuries. Luckily, also over many centuries, a good deal of these portions were rediscovered by accident, disaster, archeology and documented. It dates back to the pre-Roman times of the ancient Britons and Celts. Your work here counts whether you realize it or not. These trails are relatively new in the grand scheme of things and may not appear very historically significant, but already they have quite the storied histories as you have shown. One day these trails will be as old as Watling Street is now, and you're helping pass on this information as part of an archive for future generations. The lack of detailed information clouds a great deal of history to the point that we may know of something but have only a vague idea of what that something was, or where that something occurred. So thanks 👍

I used to camp there in the early eighties. Catch Crawdads and have Burgers and poor man's Lobster. :)

@gmc9753

3 жыл бұрын

The owners of the inn will have to pay for a California environmental study to make sure rebuilding the inn won't affect those crawdads at all!

Thank you for such a great guided tour thru time.

In April, 1968, my husband and I drove the whole of route 66, in our 1961 Cadillac convertible. We actually started out in Green Bay, Wis. Spent the night in Springfield .....2 ond night , somewhere in Texas.I remember that the motel only cost 5$. When we got to Needles, Ca. It was 114 degrees! you can still drive bits of US 66 along lnterstate40....though there's not much left of it anymore. It was a great ride back in the day. He is gone now, and I live in Michigan,but when I drive out to Ca to visit my son, I still try to catch a little of it.... nostalgia, I guess....

HA! They laughed at me when I said the plot to the Disney movie Cars is based on a true story.

@davids6533

3 жыл бұрын

Let them laugh. You can't tell some people anything. They already know it all. PS I've lost count of how many times I've watched Cars and wished I could travel the whole route 66 in a big comfortable automobile at my own speed without somebody being on my bumper.

We used to stop at the Summit Inn for java on the way to camp & 4 wheel in the Mojave and that was in the 70's & 80's . Been down the trail you took us on once , nothing much too see so never went back . Last time I was by the Summit Inn on I-15 was 10 years ago delivering a load to a Walmart DC , it was still there at that time , sorry to hear it burnt down .

@briane173

3 жыл бұрын

Summit Inn became a regular stop for my family when I was a teenager back in the early 70s. We owned a condo in Mammoth Lakes at the time and to get there from Long Beach, we typically took I-405 to SR-14 through Palmdale/Lancaster and Mojave; but after the earthquake in 1971 that route was closed off when the I-5/SR14 interchange collapsed. So we'd drive all the way out to Riverside/San Bernardino and take I-15 through Cajon Pass. Nearly every trip we'd stop for gas & grub at the Summit Inn. Sorry to hear it is no more. Brings back fond memories.

@JT-un7dc

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, I had many meals at The Summit Inn with my family.. family bought property in Hesperia back in the 70s. was the only place to eat back in the seventies and eighties. Rip.

Thank you for sharing this video. I am fascinated with this area and the history behind it. I am a mechanic for a public utility and spent several nights sleeping in my service truck in and around 3N45 while crews restored power during the Blue Cut fire that wiped out the Summit Inn. Many have asked why efforts weren’t made by fire fighters to save the Summit Inn during the fire. As a first hand witness, I can tell you the Blue Cut fire spread fast, almost like something out of an end times movie. There was no slowing it down. Fire crews focused on homes in the fire’s path and had no choice but to let the Inn burn with everything else in the fire’s path.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the tour. Yea, I saw that Blue Cut fire go through the pass real fast - I got stuck "down the hill" and had to go home over Big Bear. If you're interested in history, I'd recommend visiting some of Victor Valley's museums. There's lots to learn, as I have, and still plan to...

Bravo! Great presentation. Thanks.

I love this stuff. Tried finding route 66 in flagstaff and lost it back in the early 90's. Sure wish I could drive the whole route with some sort of map they have?

always thought it would be cool to drive the entire rt 66.

@safffff1000

3 жыл бұрын

I also as a kid remember going several times on 66, started in Cleveland and went by Chicago and St Louis to Mojave CA. 4 times, Remember all the Burma Shave signs and miles to JackRabbit trading post signs and the concrete Teepee's

3 жыл бұрын

Parts of it no longer exist.

@stopglobalswarming

3 жыл бұрын

It’s rough

@StandWatie1862

3 жыл бұрын

@@safffff1000 66 started in Chicago. That Cleveland road was something else

@safffff1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@StandWatie1862 Yea i know that's where we lived so we drove to Chicago to start out on 66

Used to travel from Orange County to Victorville in the 60s and 70s to ride dirtbikes with my family as a kid. Back then you would have to go around through Riverside and San Bernardino on the 215. Man by the time we got up to the desert I felt like I was on the moon ! Not much up there back in those days. Thanks for the great video.

Excellently done! Thank you!

5 stars for this video. Great job! Lots of historical information that most people who do these kind of videos don't bother to research. Production values are top notch. (I used to be video editor). Can't wait to watch more of your work.

I went through rt66 in 1968 they was building I15 WE looked up and saw heavy equip. cuting the highway

@markme4

3 жыл бұрын

I was there to see that, still live near Cojon Pass

Lived in Redlands for over 20 years and had just started to research the Cajon Pass when we moved away. Always wanted to drive/walk the old wagon route that went from the top of the pass, past the Mormon Rocks, and into San Bernardino. After viewing this video, I consider that I have completed this wish. Thanks for a great video. Thumbs up.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for commenting.

Im just so blown away by the amount of information packed into a video! So much details and I am grateful for this! Thank you and keep making content

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thanks for commenting. Oh, I have lots of plans for new content!

RIP Summit Inn. I remember the day it burned.😥😥

@ponrix

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Sad day. I went there once. Good food. Wish i had gone more.

I feel like I just walked through an EPCOT ride.

Great coverage! Definitely adding to my bucket list of trails to explore. Appreciate your time and tour. 👌🏼

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks for commenting.

Fantastic. I railfan Summit whenever I get to the LA area. I love learning the hidden history that exists.

The Donner party was trying to avoid paying the toll.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

LOL - they were avoiding a lot of things and they were running late

@psychosneighbor1509

3 жыл бұрын

"I have an idea. Trust me. We'll save two bucks."

@Once800-

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@imadechili8842

3 жыл бұрын

Donner Party: Hold my Donnelly

@tarico4436

3 жыл бұрын

@Ocee BeeDonner woman setting down dinner plate: "Here you go." Donner guy: "What's this?! I asked for wings." Donner woman: "Didn't find any. No gizzards either."

Definitely not going to try taking that road with my big rig truck!

@jeffhallel8211

3 жыл бұрын

Be careful the GPS doesn't send you on that route. You are right,stay on the BIG road. Keep the shiney side up.

Live in Muscoy dwn from the road great trails love these mountains great views of the land

Great tour!!

I have a love hate relationship with your videos. I love the content but hate that now I have another place I want to explore and I am already so far behind in my current travels.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Well, that's why I call them "virtual". Tomorrow I'm off to central Nevada, so that might be another place you may just have to check out virtually...

@davidhenderson8962

3 жыл бұрын

@@BackRoadsWest1 Berlin Ichthyosaur State park is a cool place to visit as well as Hickison Petroglyphs, though that is more North than Central.

@briane173

3 жыл бұрын

Huell Howser once did a show on the old Ridge Route between Santa Clarita and Bakersfield; that's a fascinating route and if you haven't traveled it before you oughta put that on your bucket list.

Great video! I am amazed about how well you documented your journey. Thank you 🙏

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And thanks for taking the time to comment.

I took that route a couple of weeks ago coming back from the Eastern Sierra. Thanks.

*Anecdotes on the Summit Inn:* From 1958-61 my family lived in China Lake (near Ridgecrest) and we frequently stopped at the Summit Inn as we periodically went back and forth to various LA basin destinations. If we took the Cajon Pass route we were using US 395 to cross the desert. There was no I-15 at that time. - It does not surprise me that the Summit Inn burned down. They "hauled their own water" to run the facilities and would only serve you a glass of water if you asked for it. How much could possibly be available under pressure to fight a fire? - On our last visit to the Summit Inn my father stormed out when it became clear to him that management was refusing to serve a black family.

"for our metric friends" Pffft. The whole world, you mean, except for 'Merikuns. Ssst.

@FRLN500

3 жыл бұрын

Why quit a system that works? I lived in Canada when they made the switch. What a expensive cluster fuck that was.

Thanks for this little homage to the Mother Road. I’ve driven on old 66 in the Cajon Pass back in the late 90s in my little red pickup when I was stationed in Ventura, and I didn’t know about this intriguing little shortcut. Can’t wait to travel 66 again. Great video!

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure and thanks for commenting.

This is a well made historical tour you put together and very detailed. Thanks! Now time to go explore

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting.

Amazing video. You guys rock!

Very calming and de-stressing video. Great to relax and immerse one's self in.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great info and presentation. I've driven through the Cajon Pass for years, never knew about this historical road. Thank you very much.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I have driven it many many times too since the 1970s. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

What a great tour! Thank you for going through the trouble to bring it to us!

@BackRoadsWest1

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Your comment is well appreciated.

Wow... its beautiful out there.. My kind of trip..😍 Thanks for all the information...💕

Very cool video. Thanks for posting.

You did an excellent job! Thank you for taking the time.

@BackRoadsWest1

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thank you for commenting!

Well done! I love this stuff

Another great tour, Cliff.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch!

Great research! The amount of cross-checking and double-checking that had to be done for this small stretch of road is impressive.👍

Great video, Thank you for your time and effort. It is all ways so informative and very well produced.

@BackRoadsWest1

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thank you for commenting.

The video was very educational and I enjoyed watching it. Thanks for adding topo maps.