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@Gatorgolfusa

Жыл бұрын

That was posta go on your Eric easy tip video!!

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Haha, that's ok GG, this was a good video, too I thought. Much appreciated!

These guys with significant physical limitations playing golf are a true inspiration. We have no excuses, when some players are playing and playing well with missing limbs etc. honestly so much respect for those guys, I play guitar and I was thinking oh my fingers not right for certain bar chords in the early days …. Until I found a video of a young lad playing the guitar with his feet as he had no arms, and was absolutely shredding it! It’s your mental conditioning which has the biggest influence!

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I saw a quote the other day.. The same boiling water that softens the potato, hardens the egg. It's what you're made of that determines the outcome.

First time watcher, subbed instantly. Great video. Looking forward to watching more. Your approach and way of talking is superb.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Mark that really means a lot. Thanks a ton.

Glad to hear it and to hear that things are getting better. And definitely hold off on the Everest thing. Cheers.

I agree with your assessment. I've tried many pivot swings which require the body to move the club. They work well for some people who are athletic, flexible or perhaps young. The problem is those swings are not universal. Not everyone can' move or get into those positions while maintaining dynamic speed with accuracy.

Most honest golf video on KZread! Well said and demonstrated Chad!

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'll take that high praise! Much appreciated.

Excellent presentation. Appreciate your thoughts and continue to enjoy watching your channel.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton Jack! Glad to have the kudos.

This is the honest truth, like you I've tried every grip , swing method known to man. The problem is exactly as you state we are trying to put multiple body parts into multiple positions when our focus should be on the task of hitting the ball with the stick. Shawn Clements has some of the simplest analogies, cut the dandelion stem, swing the axe or hammer. Moe Norman figured this out and referred to his ( heavily weighed ) clubs as four foot hammers. We have gone way too far down the rabbit hole for the average person to digest and assimilate the vast amount of information available today. When we try to get into these positions, we are using the conscious brain, which cannot send the signals to our muscles in real time, the swing happens way too fast for the conscious brain.Hence paralysis from analysis 🧐! Great video. Subscriber from Nova Scotia. Mike.

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Mike I honestly have tried to say those very things in so many of my videos, but you did a fantastic job of wording it. Thanks for that.

Hi Chad, I do agree with what you said. I focus on body only in practice swing in the range. I found if you have a right grip and address at first, the following swing will be natural and solid, no need thinking of anything.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. On the range is different than on course. Good thought Tao!

My golf swing has been an evolution, and it is still evolving. I am now retired which gives me much more time to work on my approach to golf. You are beginning to sound Zen. That is interesting because that has been my approach to golf. I usually try to let the golf club teach me how to use it. There are a great many online golf instruction that the instructors have literally thought about quitting the game at one time or another because things were not working for them. I am not particularly athletic, so my swing has been developed from many different styles of swings. ( was in band in high school and college) The latest and greatest seems to be single plane, which is how I stumbled (and I do mean stumbled) across you. I have made a list of things I need to think about when I am swinging. The old list (the classic swing) was literally 26 different items. I wrote a 20 page document (with pictures) to help me remember all of these things to do for the correct swing. With the single plane, it is smaller. Less than 10. I have spent the winter at a local gym where they allow be to hit foam golf clubs, to help me train myself. Over the last several years I have downloaded almost 500 videos to help me with my swing and playing golf. I watch tournaments every weekend to get ideas on techniques. My wife, God bless her, watches with me and she has learned allot about the game and we watch together. She has he own favorites and we enjoy it together. I really don't think she really cares about golf, but that's ok. Sorry about the novelette here but I certainly understand the evolutionary approach to golf. I like you because you seem like a regular guy. Much better than me but, the way you talk about golf speaks to me. Thank you very much. Have a better than average day.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable Don. Thanks so much for that, and I can relate to a lot of it. I think that's awesome that you and your wife share it. So glad to have you as a viewer and best of luck in your pursuit.

@dondecker3597

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy btw my handicap dropped last year 2 strokes and my first (practice) round this year had a birdie and 3 pars. Fingers crossed 😊

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

All good things Don.

Without elaborating (unless you want me to) on my irreducible components i.e. Universal Golf swing - method. The video by Steve Pratt entitled "The Crazy Swing Move That Keeps Winning on the PGA Tour" has several keys elements in common with it. However, in my own method I have fleshed it out quite a bit more and added specific simple swing-type-dependant motion keys to it. Nonetheless, this is extremely interesting and, I believe, true in terms of what he says about confirmation concerning top pros through motion capture analysis. I also have followed Brian Manzella (featured through clip in the video) for a long time and believe he is a top notch thinker and "philosopher" about the nature of swing mechanics. The thing to notice IMO here is that the arm club triangle and its motion control the swing and essentially they are the swing, the rest is just supporting motion which can vary a fair bit from golfer to golfer. The other IMO major point is that the motion of this triangle (with the body motion removed) works very QUICKLY from the top, from bent levers to all almost fully aligned to bent levers again post impact. What's really powerful here is that the golfer can determine at the top if they are capable of this demonstrated arm club motion immediately from the top without adjusting the body/arm/club position, If they are not, then there is something wrong with their backswing and/or position at the top and they can probably intuitively change things to correct the problem. I think that this could be helpful to you and many other golfers so I hope that you'll take a look at the video and let me know what you think of it.:-) Cheers.

Well done. The acting was good enough for the skit not to be cringy. I agree with you, swing your swing and have fun out there

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks Patrick! Good enough for KZread acting anyway.

Yes Sir,Chad👍🏽! Outstanding “take” !!

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Charlie! Swing your swing.

You hit the nail on the head. Let the body follow the club, not the other way around.

This is so true, I went to Golf Tech and spent. good money and took lots. of lessons and all they did was try to get me to hit 12 positions in my swing. Nothing helped.This didnot work for me.

Another great, thoughtful video Chad!

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce!

So good and on point.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Vic!

❤❤❤❤ Great video!!! I actually appreciate the sarcasm. I’m sick of all the bs instruction you see online. Bowed left wrist, right arm external rotation, left knee kicking out, and my favorite hold the lag. I have seen some ugly swings win my club championship. Short game, putting, and consistency.

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated, and I completely understand the frustration.

Have you analized the Juju Golf Swing yet? I could watch these vids all day, keep up the good work, thanks.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much John. I haven't done anything formal with Juju, but I have tried it a bit. It's so different, you'd have to commit for a fairly long period to do it justice.

Sound like AJ Bonar, in the end it IS the club head in relation to the club path. And really what you as an individual need or want to physically get to what shape and flight of the golf shot you would like. I think??!?

It's interesting that you are talking about this right now because I have recently discovered what I believe is the most universal and irreducible set of elements of the golf swing and I do believe that it can be taught much more simply than much if not all of what is out there. This method does not necessarily reduce the set of components in a golf swing but would rather make many of them automatic because the primary task is fundamentally simple to understand and perform. What really complicates the golf swing is the dimension of power and this is what adds complexity of movement to the golf swing because people do not move like Iron Byron in essentially 2 dimensions but must move 3-dimensionally to achieve similar movement of the club. The actual set of instructions to perform the swing would depend on what tools the individual has available to them physically but the concept itself is quite simple and not very hard to understand and could be tailored to any individual set of capacities that allows a golfer to actually swing a club. However, the greater the set of physical tools that a golfer has, the more of them that they will want to employ in today's power game environment (assuming that they want to play at the highest level possible) because in essence given the way the body moves, the more levers that can be bent or misaligned with the direction of force and then straightened or re-aligned, the more power that can be generated. This principle can be readily seen in a big league pitcher's movement for example where there is massive bending and misaligning of levers in the wind up and then straightening and re-aligning in the delivery motion. Golf is subject to the same constraints however the extra lever of the club gives a mechanical advantage to the golfer if it is used correctly. The previous explanation illustrates why the full golf swing (especially at maximum power) is not as simple as a chip shot. However, the set of irreducible elements that I have arrived at makes the full swing and chip or pitch much more understandably related to each other and would allow the golfer to essentially grow a chip shot into a full swing using as many physical tools as they have available to them while only attempting to complete a simple objective throughout. Thus they would arrive at their maximum potential dependant on what they have available to them as building blocks. It is very evident to me in having determined these most irreducible swing elements that the average, and certainly the poorer, golfer does not really even understand what they are trying to achieve in terms of simple basic club motion (I don't just mean swing plane there is something that is more important and will automatically lead to good plane, but of course good plane must be an outcome of an effective method). I believe that knowing these elements and some simple movement tips (physical capacity dependant) to help them achieve a simple object would set them on a MUCH EASIER path to success. That aside, I feel as though you have changed the question and created a bit of a moving target with your most recent release. I admire and resonate with your overall tendencies to think deeply and broadly about the golf swing but your most recent efforts were, from my perspective, to gain more power and efficiency since you clearly could already manage the basic requirements that you set out as criteria for the establishment of a universal golf swing i.e. ball first, descending blow, etc.. You were clearly on plane to a point because you were having solid straight strikes, even with the driver. What you needed to achieve from my perspective for more power though was more on plane delivery from higher up in the swing thus allowing more hip rotation at impact, more lag tension and shaft lean (and consequently probably more solid impact) and overall greater more efficient delivery of your power potential to the ball. To that end, the answer to your question is absolutely that Gankas style position looks powerful. However, that position is not one that you will often see clearly in a golf swing (although it is possible) but rather is an illustration of a sensation that you would want to have (although Joaquin Niemann produces the position almost exactly with his driver). The caveat is that your previous positions have to have been correct and the position itself has to be accurately produced. Your earliest attempt (in the Gankas review) had you straightening up significantly into and through impact. As I explained in another comment, you must arrive in the pre-delivery position (for Joaquin this is 1-2 frames earlier than the "Gankas" position) with your knees parallel and your torso closer to your thighs than it was at address. If you don't arrive in the proper pre-delivery position, the Gankas move is useless and possibly detrimental because the leverage of your arms moving behind your hip turn in conjunction with your spine angle is largely gone in that case. Matthew Wolff also has the same pre-delivery position and then a very clear Gankas position. These are two of the longest hitters pound for pound in pro golf as your probably know. If you want to know more about the irreducible elements of the swing, let me know. Cheers.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Timothy. Lately I have ditched the course I was on for a few reasons. First, I was injured, so building speed with driver had to be shelved. That's not what lead to my injury, but it's certainly not something that I will be able to pursue for a while. Second, I'm trying to stay true to the essence of the channel. The main purpose. To demystify and simplify golf as much as possible for the vast majority of golfers. I was clearly headed away from that by delving into complicated biomechanics and considering the effort and time needed to completely revamp movements, it didn't line up at all with what most golfers are willingb to invest. And third, even if tons of golfers had tons of time to go through the long, difficult process, a big portion of them can't. Injuries, chronic issues, limited mobility, etc. So, I'm trying to get back to my roots. Easier, funner golf.

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy Amen! And I thought I was long winded. 😂

Really liked this video and you're funny 🤣 but the golf content is spot on

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bon! Knew I could count on that support from you.

I know this didn’t work for you but the Jim Venetos swing has given me the consistency I was looking for. Once you get the quietness concept it’s so pleasant to hit the ball. Nice draw every time. It’s a weird concept tho. Have to get past that. Haha.

@kymstock1852

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that JV method didn't work for Chad. It was more that he needed to move on to other methods to continue his quest. I signed up for a year with JV and yes my strike and consistency improved a lot. I still try to keep still, but I am sure I fail to do so 100% when I try to hit hard!

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

There will always be some elements of Jim's teachings and philosophies with me. Honestly, this video has a lot of that in it.

@jawjuh1005

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy yes it does. That’s why I replied. Love your quest and the channel. You’re so right tho whatever method puts the golfer in touch with the clubhead will probably work. Good stuff. Thank you.

@jawjuh1005

2 жыл бұрын

@@kymstock1852 so true. When I try to go after it my rear shoulder comes around and spoils the shot. You are so right.

Well first let me say that I'm sorry that the injury is still affecting you somewhat and I continue to wish you a speedy recovery. Secondly, I thought that some of the things that you were doing to gain power and improve your plane were not that complicated and may have been helpful to some people but I may not be the best judge of what's complicated based on what my wife tells me :-) I guess that my take on it would be that most golfers need to and would like to be able to "revamp" movements in their swings in the time that they have to work on them. I also believe there are shortcuts to doing so for most golfers if those shortcuts can be identified and encapsulated simply. Many of the problems that you are dealing with are the problems of the common golfer so if you do the hard work and then can break it down for them in a more direct and simplified fashion, aren't you in effect embodying the name of your channel "Golf Test Dummy"? As far as fun goes, I'll always say that the funnest golf is the best golf. Anyway, just my two cents but I totally respect that it's your channel and you are the only one that can say exactly what your intentions are for it. Cheers.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the well wishes. And you're right, some of the most helpful things don't have to be complicated. And I'll never say that biomechanics can't help. They certainly can. We're learning a ton from technology. It's important to have people that understand it. But the average golfer? Most don't want to be bothered with cracking the Da Vinci code. They just want to crack a few beer cans lol. I'm willing to do more than most, and hopefully, you're right, and I can take some complications away.

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy I remember it was JH who cracked that code. We have Channel Lock, Gravity Golf: Stack& Tilt. JV. And natural golf. To mention a few. All of which I tried and not one of them worked for me. It tool me 40; but today in my alter ego I am now an elite golfer. Cheers

I enjoyed this video a lot. I agree with the basic tenants of your theory, in that MOST golfers will never spend the time and energy it takes for all the complex aspects of the golf swing to matter, and really should focus on how THEY (individually) can best get the club face back to the ball square to path, and path to target. That said MOST golfers also will never break 80. So the difference between these things is well the difference between these things. Love what your are doing, thanks for the hard work you put in.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks PJ! I've been working on gathering my thoughts lately to expand on this, and I think the fact you stated, that most golfers won't break 80, has much more to do with the fact that most golfers are fumbling around in the wrong dark room altogether. The last several decades have been focused on the wrong things in my opinion, and that has actually helped CREATE the frustrations of most golfers.

@pastorjason4337

Жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy I can tell you I have spent some time in that dark room myself and am in fact back there now, chasing KZread "Secrets" to fix what I likely never had figured out to begin with. Thank you for tryin to bring some light.

Don't know if you' ve heard the name, but a number of years back a fella named AJ Bonar was a popular coach. The main point of his theory was that the only universal in the golf swing was impact. Can't remember if he said 1 foot or 2 feet before and after was the zone, but the theory is that every great ball striker was the same in that area. He even performed "one legged" swings in his infomercial. Got solid distance out of the driver doing it too. I have to agree that this idea is the one universal of the swing. Doesn't matter that much how you get there as long as you swing through this area correctly

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. I've made a few vids about AJs teachings. Brilliant. Love his stuff.

@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy If you would like to see some CFI instruction you can use this link: kzread.info/dron/AEGsro5bKTSibrvf4uQpfg.html

Thanks Chad. If instruction (making your body move in a certain way) was universal then how do kids pick up a golf club and within a few swings whack it so it takes off in a fairly consistent direction --without any of that universal instruction/coaching?

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

That's a fantastic question that helps illustrate the point. Pretty smart Phillip!

Great stuff Chad, you’ve just given 70 percent of us high handicappers justification for taking up a new hobby lol

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, always here to help Jim!

@jimmcewen9351

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy the interesting thing for me, is that because I can’t afford the JVA school I’ve had to figure some things out on my own, like if I line my feet up left center of fairway before I close my stance then I’m aimed right center of fairway. And the last piece for me was from someone else on KZread using the method, he said if you flare your left foot open before shifting your weight forward and closing your stance it will keep you from rotating or spinning out of the shot too soon, it must be like ulnar deviation for the front side because it really works, Jim’s method keeps the ball in play for me more than any other. I can still shoot bad scores if I’m not chipping or putting well, but there’s nothing like feeling like your swing is under control and your bad shots will still give you a chance

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

And that's what it's all about. Results. How you get them is irrelevant.

I’m military and I played an on post course with a man who was missing a leg, which forced him to have more of a handsy arm only swing and he may have been a 10 handicap max great guy and golfer, from him I learned to just do what works and playing smart can save strokes regardless of your swing

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Got that right. Good golf is more about self management and course management anyway.

@burtnoernie1gaming785

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy i was hitting my irons so bad on my last round that i started hitting chippy 3 hybrids at par 3's between 150 to 170 looked silly but worked on that course that had minimal hazards to carry

Learn to hit balls with feet together,learn to draw and cut with feet together.swing with zero tension, find your tempo. Learn to putt.practice practice practice. I totally agree, there is nothing universal. Thinking a amateur is a bad golfer will empty your wallet, bobby Jones was an amateur and maybe the best in history considering he retired at age twenty eight. Practice short shots, practice recovery shots, turn 3 shots into 2 shots have fun and play by the rules.

So what is the swing style that suits most people in your opinion? I think kirk junge's is the best so far, not so athletic, not a super wide motion, for me its the best in the middle

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm, good question. If we're talking about MOST people, then we have to consider averages. Average body type, average mobility, age, flexibility, etc. I'll have to think.

Great video…. You are so right! Golf should be straight forward, like hitting a nail with a hammer…. But man, do we make it difficult for ourselves… I am sure I would score a similar score if a chipped and pitched around the course instead of trying to hit ‘hero’ shots…

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

We all would, that's for sure. Thanks Matt!

@Pooler29

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right...myself and a golfing mate played 36 holes one day (we were students..I was a 14 and he an 18 hcp)...had a few frosties and challenged another 2 guys to 9 holes with only 1 club and a putter. I took a 7 iron and shot an even round...I couldn't shoot better than 5 over in the previous 4 x 9 rounds (36 holes) with 14 clubs. Crazy

@mattstaines3329

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pooler29 great work!… it is a crazy game….

Modern coaching is all about keeping you coming back.......

I always thought you need only do these 4 things to be a good ball striker. 1) club path slightly from the inside 2) club face square at impact 3) hit the ball in the middle of the club face 4) hit the ball before striking the ground

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. How you do it is important, sure. You want to be fast and powerful. But if you are fast, your body will figure out how to do what you mentioned, fast.

@bjarnieinarsson3472

2 жыл бұрын

5) Hit the ball with power! Most forgot "how to do" part of the golf swing and the exact part which ruins all parts above!

I'm just curious....what is your day job? You have such a passion for golf and are more knowledgeable than many golf professionals I know. You'd make a great instructor!

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Haha, I'm a Manager for a home builder. Thanks for the compliment.

Just came across The Flow Golf Swing, might be worth a look if you haven't seen it yet.

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Flow motion?

@pastorjason4337

Жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy Yeah that's it. Awkward cat (Stephone) but interesting idea to the swing. Very unconventional from what little I saw.

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

It's a lot like Zen Golf. Pretty cool stuff.

@pastorjason4337

Жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy Some of it seemed a little hokey but not sure if its just the guy peddling it or not for me.

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

It's a "hippy" approach, in a world that most people believe is all math and science. At the end of the day though, it really is based in science, but it's made super simple, so that our dumb brains can get the science to act, lol. The science is intention, reflex, anticipation, innate motor skills, etc., all of which can be handled by our subconscious. The problem occurs when our conscious mind starts to micromanage.

You are getting better and better old mate....

@GolfTestDummy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen!

Three names. John Jacobs. Jim Venetos. Pete Cowan. 1. J.J. = No matter how swing the club, if you present the club face square at impact to the target that is where the ball will go. 2. J.V. = Let the left shoulder control the backswing and let the club and arms fall back to the ball. 3. P.C. = The Grip, just before you take the club back from the ball the hands have to make an opposing twisting action. Similar to when you use both hands to wring water out of a wet towel. This action with the hands is felt as a slight tightening in the muscles on the top of the forearms. Stabilising the club through the back swing and ensures the club goes back to the ball in the manner that J.J. states. Simple. I think ? you would benefit most from the Pete Cowan move to stop the Floppy Sloppy Joe at the top of the backswing. Get fit soon......

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan! I found a good quote from John Jacobs but forgot to include it in the damn video, haha. And you know I'm a Jim Venetos fan. I'll check out Pete Cowan.

impact and club face control are boss in golf. You figure out how to consistently hit the back of the ball you're on your way to fun golf :-)

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

That's really it. There isn't much more to it, as far as instruction needs to go

@kentstuart8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy As you know, it's easier said then done! But well worth the challenge 🙂

Old school golfers would probably hate me , I use a single plane drive swing , more of a “juju” iron swing and pretty conventional chipping lol

There is a universal swing. Its applicable to all players. Its applicable to all clubs. This swing is confined by four essentials: 1) ball is contacted by center of club, 2) clubface is perpendicular to target line at impact, 3) the club is swung in the direction of the target, and 4) the club is swung with enough speed to propel the ball the desired distance. To accomplish these four is simple and easy to learn.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. And you don't have to focus internally on body movements. Only the club.

@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy There are two schools of golf instruction: body-focused instruction (BFI) and club-focused instruction (CFI). BFI advocates and internal focus on the body. CFI advocates an external focus on the club. De la Torre and Jones were both CFI guys.

Obviously, if you are interested in trying it, I meant only when you're capable since you're injured right now. I hope that that didn't sound insensitive so if so, sorry about that. Cheers.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, no way Timothy. Not offended and very rarely am I offended. Injury is getting better. I'm not climbing Everest next week, but better.

BOOM!

Great video. We’re all different

@robertearle7964

Жыл бұрын

I had this thought last night that you are Don Quixote and we (subscribers) are Sancho Panza on a quest to find the perfect golf swing. We visit these different instructors along the way looking for directions to the holy grail. Thanks for turning me onto Marcus Edblat. I am enjoying the journey. Bob

Maybe its time to change the channel name to the golfing philosopher? Seriously, the amount of time you spend thinking and applying yourself to "the quest" is inspirational. Keep up the great work! Oh, one video you may find interesting is James Robinson's golf lesson with Peter Cowen from a few days back.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mr. K! I just had another person mention Peter Cowan in a comment.

@mrkipling3841

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy Cool! All the best, bud.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Right back at ya!

If there was such a thing as the "Universal Golf Swing" then the golfing world may have been deprived of seeing talents such as Lee Trevino, Seve Ballesteros, Jim Furyk and others who may be deemed to be, or have been, unorthodox. I believe too many handicap golfers spend far too much time searching for that "textbook swing". As Trevino once said "It is not how, it is how many"

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The only thing universal is the club and physics. How the club and ball interact.

I am a fan of Manuel de la Torre's swing method which I know you have experimented with. One thing to remember with the golf swing is that there are no straight lines. Swing the club head on an arc over the trail shoulder with hands then simply swing the whole club with the upper arms on an arc that goes through the address position with a square club face and finishes over the lead shoulder. The body will respond to this movement accordingly for each individual.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

One of the simplest concepts, and probably put in a back corner somewhere because it's just too simple to sell.

@patc1309

Жыл бұрын

Jim Flick a deceased instructor for Golf Digest was a big fan of that as well

Hi Chad absolutely their is a way for anyone to achieve a universal golf swing and as you so eloquently said we do need to empty our head of all the nonsense we heard from PGA teacher and even the nonsense we hear from professional golfers we know and love. Yes we all need to figure it out for our selves. Except for two universal points that I think everyone should know. There is a true dynamic X factor in everyone’s swing and I think it is time for everyone to learn. And I am not talking about Jim McLean X factor whatsoever. In my way of thinking the X factor are two imaginary and yet dynamic diagonal line / / both crossing over the other at the swing circle center of our body. I am sure at this point you are saying: « Here we go again why is this man bothering me » Just put up with me just a little longer. There are 4 points of references the crossing over diagonal lines X factor can be pointed to on the golfers body First Diagonal/ has point 1 lead foot and point 2 trail shoulder Second Diagonal / has point 1 trail shoulder and point 2 lead foot As you can see both X equal and opposite of the other Since our human brain can only control 2 of the above 4 point mentioned the golfer can only control and work actively with one diagonal line as they swing their clubs. As the other diagonal line must be allow to react equally and yet oppositely of what the golfer is actively doing.. So all I do is push the ground with my left foot and then push my trail shoulder to my intended target line. That it Done! And for complex reasons I won’t bore you with; including Ground Reaction Force ; I have now created an altered ego for myself as becoming the world foremost elite golfer. And I believe anyone who trust their own swing will as well. Cheers ❤️😃👍⛳️🥂

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, Thomas you ain't bothering me! The X is interesting. I see what you're saying. The fact that you found something that works is really the joy of golf.

Golf is an ego sport where you play from the back tees, pay for a $500 driver & only goes right for 200yds.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

I can't speak to the $500 driver, but there is definitely an element of ego in golf.

Forget the body ? Chad please put down that bong and get some help. The earth is not flat and we did land on the moon. There is no holy grail when it comes to the golfswing . There is only understanding, hard "work" and commitment. Biomechanics, kinesiology and gears can provide understanding. The hard work and commitment comes from within. That in and of itself is why I love this great game. Nice simulator Chad.

@GolfTestDummy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks Mike. Assuming you watched it all, right? I agree. Biomechanics can certainly enhance and improve. But for the majority of golfers, complex movements and concepts muddy the water and it is likely the biggest reason that golfers say to hell with it and leave the game. Biomechanics and kinesiology should be understood by teachers certainly, but maybe for the recreational golfer it should stay in the heads of the teacher. Save the master class for the high end golfers who can spend their days constantly grinding, you know?

@mslu62

2 жыл бұрын

@@GolfTestDummy I did watch it all the way thru. Why? Prolly cuz I disagreed with posts title. The never ending thirst for knowledge and wisdom I can relate. Nothing better than kawaloping shot after shot straight down the fairway or right at the pin right ? Did I say that's a nice sim. All you need is a couch and mini fridge and that's heaven to me. As long as the wife stocks the fridge in a bikini once a week that's just tits right ? The snow is melting and the weather is getting nice here so surely it is in NC. I have played hundreds in SC but never played pinehurst. Your sandy soil and grass are a pleasure to play on. The rough certain times of year can get gnarly especially at the higher end clubs . I must admit the best courses are in Florida . The dag gum fairways feels like walking on a piece of carpet someone tossed on the ground and very plush. Carolinians seem much more friendly and have way better food. Just sayin Chad.

gosh that was tiring ...never heard so much blah..blah..blah about a golf swing...

too much talking!