Ever wonder why golf is so much more complicated than any other sport? Is all of this golf instruction and all of these gadgets necessary? And who should you listen to? There are so many different "gurus" and teachers to choose from, how could you possibly choose one that had all of the answers? I firmly believe that relatively high level golf is sustainable without the time and effort of a tour pro, and I am on a mission to prove it. Starting at a 10 handicap, my ultimate goal is scratch, but first, I plan to build a simple and repeatable full swing, a solid short game I can rely on, putting that limits 3 stabs, and closes out on 3 to 8 foot putts in 1 as often as possible. I will also examine trends, equipment, and gear to expose unnecessary costs and wastes of your time. Golf is only as hard as we make it and I have made it too difficult for too long.
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I think you're finished trying all the different swing types out there, but did you ever come across gravity golf? The channel's been around for close to 10 years. It's quite interesting, a simple, body-friendly swing.
Great advice.
I am a new subscriber although I have watched a number of your videos. I am really struggling to find my swing. Is this spreadsheet something I can grab online? Would love to look at it.
It's not, sorry, and there is a flaw that only discovered after this video came out. I messed up some math on Shawn Clement. He was the higher rated.
Thanks for the info🔥 imma get myself a pair like that. I love golf but I know something much more important, so I will let you know that Jesus loves you, and it would mean the world to me if you hear what I have to say: We all deserve justice for our sins(lying stealing, saying the Lords name in vain, looking at women with lust, etc), and that justice would be fulfilled in hell. However God LOVES US sooo much that he became a human, died at the hands his his own creation just so that the justice WE deserve for OUR sins could be fulfilled through Jesus Christ. Now all he requires of us is to REPENT and BELIEVE in him and we can enter heaven and become righteous, God will make us a new creation that loves keeping Gods law, he will give us his Holy Spirit to lead us through life wile helping us through our difficult times by giving us everlasting peace
They do fly straighter but hard as a rock and not good around the greens
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Just wanted to say that was a terrific review. Well done! I’d really be interested in a follow up review if you get and Apple Watch, then show us all how you use it.
Hi Chad. Apologies if you already answered this in a video/comment. But which swing are you using currently? I saw your swing comparison vid and think I decided to try the single plane swing. Do you think that’s a good idea? Thanks
I only agree with about 20 percent of what he’s stating. Yes the sim helps the mechanics of the swing, BUT, with Irons you can’t replicate VERY important conditions that you’ll encounter on the course. if you’re hitting your irons in a sim or in a net, you leave out an INCREDIBLY important detail which is the grass……. I can promise you if you’re new, the two don’t translate over. You’ll think your swing is decent enough to go play 9 holes and be miserably disappointed when you find out hitting on grass is WAAAAAYYYYYY different. FAR LESS forgiving. Astronomically less forgiving. Think about how dramatically the physics of contacting the ball changes. For instance you can hit behind the ball in a sim and because the turf just bounces the club off the ground you’ll still make contact. And while the sim told you that you hit a slight fade, when you apply that same swing in grass you literally aren’t even contacting the ball. This will only help you with your drive. HE probably thinks it helps because he goes back and forth frequently, between grass and indoor turf. If you’re new and practicing to get your swing in a position where you play a real course.. GO TO THE DRIVING RANGE WITH REAL GRASS
I joined golftec for 6 months. I hoping to get decent results
I tried using the app today but messed up my club tracking because I kept putting my phone in my pocket and forgetting about it. Then I remembered that you put your phone on the ground. I’ll try that next time. But even without the club tracking, using it to get yardage and keeping score was useful.
He does say that you use your hands to swing back the club and your arms , not forearms , to swing the club down and through. As you say , the body then responds.
He does say that you use your hands to swing back the club and your arms , not forearms , to swing the club down and through. As you say , the body then responds.
I know itÄs nearly a year too late to comment 🤣 but Marcus is not releasing the club like you do. Marcus is "scooping" you are more or less rolling your hands over, exactly what Marcus mentioned not to do - but if it works, why not 😂
Thank you so much for this video series. I truly have enjoyed your journey through the GolfTec experience. I am considering going through the 3 month journey like you. Your series has gotten me excited. Thanks again !!!!
Chad, congrats on the score. I'm most impressed with only 27 putts, that's what got your score low. Keep up the good work. cheers.
Hey Chad, To your suggestion, I utilize my version of Stack & Tilt. It has been working out very well. In search of "unrealistic distance" I recently tried to implement a "faster hip turn" and "greater weight shift" that destroyed my consistency and accuracy. After going back to the simple principles of S&T, my game improved. It has been a long, long time since I've broken 80. I've accomplished that, 3 out of my last 5 rounds. If I would have putted better it would have been 5 of 5. Yet, that is golf! My 2 cents is to just "Keep It Simple" and value accuracy over chancing unrealistic distances. Good Luck out there! :)
On each shot pick a side to miss on either right or left until you learn how to aim the club. Learn your swing and tweak accordingly. IMO.
Scratch players hit a lot of greens and when they don’t they get up and down often. Chipping and putting is crucial but if you can’t hit your irons invest in lessons. That is if you are serious about being scratch.
Hey great video I finally went to Golf Tec and. Yes it took time to implement the changes and get rid of all the bad habits I had acquired in my motions but now after working in drill and finding the right triggers and feels I am seeing great results and ball flights due to great contact. But yes it takes time and patience but when you see the evidence just like every other game play their are some rules have to follow to be consistent and be able to score low! Thanks for sharing
I was a scratch golfer out of San Diego playing both municipal courses Torrey Pines and Balboa Park. I never truly practiced. I constantly hit 12-14 greens per round. First thing I learned and was hammered into my head by my father ,was if you get into trouble ,don’t be a hero, play for the bogey, but never get the double if you can help it. This helped me win my first city championship at Torrey Pines. On the 14th hole I chip out of trouble even through I had a low percentage shot to hit the green. I followed that shot with wedge to 10 inches and tapped in from a par to win a city championship. Also it’s easier to be a scratch golfer on more difficult course then one with a low slope rating. Know your strengths and weaknesses. Know your yardage for every club and experiment on the course hitting different types of shots. I never could hit a 3 wood with any confidence so I took it out of my bag for 5 years and only carried my driver. On par 5s I’d hit driver 4 iron and always had a full shot into the green with one of 3 wedges. Five years later I added the 3 wood back into my bag but only hit if I was going for the green. Also, try and play with golfers that are better than you. I’d also encourage you to play for money so that you keep your head into the game. I was never a master of the total game. I was a B minus driver, an A iron player, B+ wedge and a C putter.
Some pretty sage advice. I pulled my hybrids from my bag for now because they hurt as much as they help.
I’m not sure I buy the “old fashion” vs “modern” swing … seems to be there’s more in common with Hogan, Palmer (etc) and the modern players than differences. I have a heavy baseball background (played D1), and Ted Williams and Barry Bonds have more in common than differences too.
If you ask anyone including golfers to describe what their arm is they'll point out from the shoulder socket to the wrist. Of course, manuals anatomical description is accurate and the arm is really the biceps area. So swinging with the biceps area without activation of the right elbow and forearm until much later in the swing is what needs to happen. So it take practice so just perform a bunch of practice swings focusing on starting your downswing from the top just using your upper arms swinging. It will feel different because most use their hands and start unfolding the right arm to assist. By just using the upper arms and a little right shoulder drop and gravity gets the triangle moving without unloading the power too early. If you're a handsy player it will feel different and takes time. Just lots of practice swings focusing on the feel of the upper arms swinging and no hand action. It's very interesting!
playing off 18hcp l had 5 birdie opportunities this morning and 3 puttes all of them and some more, very frustrating. l know where l have to start.
So often the difference between good scores and bad scores just comes down to the question, "Did putts drop today?". And a 40 foot putt that misses by a quarter of an inch still takes another stroke to finish it out. Frustrating.
Where are you now with this swing ???
Good stuff, GTD. A couple of questions. I KNOW you probablty commented on this stuff but I can't find it in your videos. Have you tried these: 1) Reverse the Loop (clockwise loop) method (Jess Frank) 2)OTT Miracle Swing (Counter-clockwise loop) (Christo Garcia) 3) Vertical, inline swing (Todd Kolb and Swing Surgeon?) 4) I call it PTH= Point The Handle= focus on where the handle points during the swing I can make a lot of these things work but they don't stick. Like Johnny Miller said, they are WOOD keys = Works Only One Day. lol I'm going back and forth from clockwise loop to Jimmy V. If I break 80 I stay with it - when I start to shoot higher I switch! This OTT Miracle stuff seems logical because that seems to be what the right side wants to do and maybe it does provide more leverage but I just can't drag the club inside like that and not come WAY over the address plane. Thanks, buddy. Also: I heard Marcus was very sick and took time off for surgery, I think. Hope he has a full recovery. A very cool guy. Get well, Marcus. And: That pinched nerve you have - have you tried medical cannabis? Could help from what I read...
Good Video. ...sorry did not get your name. Did u find the Golf Pad Tag necessary ? Is that worth it for additional $120
You have a pretty swing. I took instruction from both Angel and Manuel. Today I look at pro golfers... all I see is back surgery in 10 years. You said it: It is simple. It is easy. It is repeatable. SWING AT YOUR TARGET! Move the club from 'here' over to 'here' at your target. Some day I will have a negative handicap. My stupid putting. :)
I just got my first lesson from a golf test dummy
The surgeon general warns against that.
1. I suck at golf 2. I suck at golf 3. I am a loser
You can't think like that, my man. Take stock of where the different parts of your game are at currently, and don't use feelings or adjectives. Use real data to see the honest state of things. Then make a practice plan to work on things, with whatever time you can give. You'll see improvement.
If my approach game was better I’d be scratch, I’m a good scramble, good putter, down the middle drive, just not close enough to make more birdies.
Same here. Need to hit more greens.
Enjoy hearing your wisdom about amateur golfers. But for wisdom in achieving an easy and acutely accurate golf swing I turn to Bobby Jones. Bobby Jones simple golf instruction was to start the up swing the fast twitch trail side of the hip muscles and then start the downswing with a the fast twitch lead side of the hip muscles. This one tip has made me feel like a professional golfer. I hope you try it for yourself Cheers 🥂😊👍
3 Reasons why I'm not a scratch golfer 1 I was shit 2 I'm still shit 3 there's a good chance I will get more shit. but I love playing golf and always will.
🤣 so say us all
In play off the tee, hit it pin high, have good speed on the greens.
The cover and cone. 2 great parts of shot planning.
Where's Your Caddy? ?? XD
That's the problem with my course. We have a range with beat up balls, a really small putting green but nothing else. If we had a short game area I would live there.
Unfortunately, that's the case for a lot of people.
Love your content. I am not opposed to "regular" golfers looking in pros bags, the problem is that we should be looking at the LPGA rather than the PGA. EGO and golf is not a recipe for low scores.
Yep, the LPGA numbers are much closer to amateur men.
best thing I did was to get fitted for new wedges and got a really good putter for me. Now I practice like crazy and it has shaved strokes. I take two welcome mats (Thick and soft) and chip in the back yard when I can't get to the range. figure out how to chip and putt properly and work on good ball strikes without over swinging on all of your clubs. And finally, Course mgt. Stay out of trouble! Great vid! thanks!
That's the formula right there. Boom!
@@GolfTestDummyyeah I just repeated what you said lol
Yeah, but you're ACTUALLY doing it. Most golfers just won't.
Great advice, Chad. Hank Haney always says avoid penalty shots, two-chips, and 3-putts. Maybe you could do a how-to follow up video. Just a thought.
I'll be doing some things like that soon.
This is amazing, you seemed to hit all the positions and looked spot on.
You’re a rich man! Leasons! Likely more than o e!
My 3 reasons - my cerebrum, my cerebellum, and my medulla. I've had 3 PGA pros watch at me on the range , the short-game area, the putting green, and the course, and all have told me I have the technical skill and course strategy to be scratch, but the gremlins in my head prevent it from coming out on the course, relegating me to low double digits. All of Bob Rotella's books have made me an externally calmer golfer, but one that internally fumes over watching less-technically-skilled players score better than me.
Hmmm, I have a friend that calls that "head worms". Do you track your stats? If so, you may be able to examine the areas you're losing strokes, IF one or two stand out, then maybe there is something in your head space that manifests directly in those areas. If it's all spread out, then of course that's harder to trace back to a particular mental area. Give me some examples of what happens on course that is leading to your disappointment.
@@GolfTestDummy Well, let me summarize it this way: 1) Full Swings. On Range: Crisp, Center-Face, Ball-First/Divot-After Contact, Low Dispersion, Posture Well-Kept, Not Quite As long as I feel I'm capable of ; On the Course : Early Extension, Inconsistent Face Contact , plenty of pull-hooks, blocks, high-weak ball flight. 2) Around the Green. In practice: Crisp Chip and Pitch contact, tight groupings around the hole, mishits very rare ,confident , tight flops and bunker shots; On The Course : a the occasional chunk, skull, and even shank, proximity to hole higher. 3) Putting . In Practice , smooth strokes, good distance control on lag putts, 90+% makes on 3-footers ; On The course: stroke gets quick, stabby and indecisive, lag putts tough to get close, tentativity on short putts, leading to many misses. I used one of those strokes-gained GPS apps to track every shot for about a year. Against a zero-handicap baseline, I came up with: SG Driving: -2.5 SG Approach; -4.5 SG Short Game: +0.4 ( yup, a scratch wedge player) SG putting : -5.5 I would assess the root cause as this : In practice, every stroke is made consequence-free. my brain frees my body to do what it's been trained my to do. On the course, as Mark Broadie says, "Every Shot Counts." That radically alters my mechanics. What say you?
I'm very happy to get an actual, well thought out, thorough response. So, thanks, first off. The SG stats tell the exact tale of what you laid out prior, and it's pretty that the bulk of your strokes are approaching the green and on the green. Your explanation, about consequences in reality, are not uncommon at all, which is good, but also, not so easy to get past either. It's not a "one size fits all" thing, so, without knowing you, it'll have to be general insight. It's easy to see that lots of people are affected by consequences when it comes to executing and performing. But the real question is; Why are YOU having that issue? Fear of failure in a public setting? The pressure of living up to what you SHOULD be to others, based on your skills? The pressure of what you should be TO YOU? It sounds crazy to be fearful over a golf shot. Ridiculous, right? But you're not scared of hitting a bad shot. Maybe your fear is that with the inevitable bad shots piled up collectively, it will amount to a bad score, and those bad scores lead to people judging you as a bad golfer, and you're NOT a bad golfer, and you should be wiping the floor with those assholes laughing at you! But, the truth is, they aren't laughing at you. They're busy with their own games and they don't even really notice. And consequences are relative. Yes, the shot wasn't good, and yes, it will probably be a wasted stroke, but, nobody is walking out of the trees to fire a rock from a slingshot at you. You won't die. You won't get tossed in jail. When you stop and think about it; What are the ACTUAL consequences? Ultimately, you've got performance issues when scores are kept. It probably stems from pressure, that stems from something to prove, that somehow in the back of our minds translates to; If we can't shoot good scores, we suck at golf. If we suck at golf, then we suck at life. We need to figure out how to make that association different, and realize that there aren't any BAD consequences. Not really. Give up control. You won't die.
@@GolfTestDummy I'ts not that I worry about anyone else's performance or what they may think of me. It's more like this: In my profession (engineer), and in my DIY life (woodworker, metalworker , fitness), if I put together a good plan and put in the work, I'll get good results I can step back and be proud of . In golf, we can put together a great practice and training plan , put in the work to produce mechanically sound skills that yield impressive single-episode results, but that's no guarantee that it will translate to a good number on the scorecard. And what output do we expect from our practice and training? We expect what is the object of the game - the best possible total score! Doc Rotella noted that golf is a just such a unique animal. I believe that if I can ever figure out how to dig the worms out of my brain , there will be a quantum leap. But right now, it seems an inoperable condition. Thanks so much for the feedback! 👍
100 percent agree, and I've had the exact same frustrating thoughts. In my life, more effort equals better results. Golf? Not necessarily.
I have been using “shot by shot” to track my stats for the past year. They got bought out by SwingU. Does anyone use this particular app? If not, which one do you use? I’m looking for recommendations. Fairways and greens, y’all!!!
I'm 68 and have been at it regularly for 20 months. I got fitted for all my clubs, took lessons immediately, practice all facets of the game 2 and 3 times a week. I play at least 2 days a week. Retirement is great because I finally have the time to work on it. I used to be in Triple digits. I'm in the 80's consistently. I'm moving up in my league flight with 7 1st place wins. I still have a lot of work to do with my pro and I'm heading out to the course right now. Oh....and it's Hot in Vegas right now at 7:20 am
The heat right now is pretty oppressive. High 90s, humidity near 90, and no significant rain for 3 weeks. And it's not even July yet. I loathe Summer.
I dedicate a lot of time to work on my game. I started playing a year and a half ago and I got pretty good. Broke 80 a few months ago and 77 2 weeks ago, I took 2 weeks off and came back and shot an 90, I felt like I couldn’t hit a golf ball to save my life on the front 9. It felt like my usual feels didn’t work, the sequencing was off and I knew it but I couldn’t fix it. I salvaged the round on the back 9 but I left feeling lost. I went through my normal shot routine but I was so yippy and got frozen over the ball a few times. Is there anything that you use to quickly lock back in on the fly? I know my golf memory isn’t what it will be in the future but I feel like it’s so crucial to be able to match a good mental with mechanics.
I'm in a bit of a ball striking slump myself right is it can be disheartening. I'm no expert, but I have tried to share a lot of advice that I find helpful. A friend reminded me yesterday of something I've said many times, and I needed to hear it myself. Performance, of any kind, is cyclical. There will always be ups and downs, no matter what level you're at. Timing, feels, speed, even your minds function. Sometimes, slumps last a while, and other times, they're pretty short lived. But, no matter how long they last, it will pass. The same happens with the peaks, also. Occasionally, the slump is helped the most by stepping away for a short time. Step back, forget about golf for a while, and let some time pass. Your expectations drop, the frustration fades, and you get a chance to reset and start fresh later. Golf doesn't respond well to being forced. Instead of chasing it so hard, take a step back and let it come to you.
My 3 reasons. My drive Carries 260-270 and goes everywhere. I can shape my irons lots of different ways, just don’t know when. Read greens like Biden reads a teleprompter. So a 14 handicap it is
So, without looking at technique or swing or any of that noise, your drives carry far beyond average, which is great. Do you have another club like hybrid you could find fairways with most of the time? Try playing without a driver for a while. For irons, assuming you have great distance there also, try cheating by doing 2 things. Forget lots of shapes, and just play 1 shape. Make it a definite shape like strong draw or power fade. Second, play partial shots. If your 7 iron carries 175, try flying it 150. Yes, you're giving up lots of power, but dialing it back to a predictable distance for a while will help you a ton. Then, you can't actually strategize, because your rifle has been sighted in. As far as reading greens, the only thing we can really do is absorb as much as possible to build your familiarity by spending the time you would normally spend at work on the putting green. Quit your job.
Talent, age and dedication. And I’m too lazy to fix the last.
For me, playing the game might help.
It's hard to find time, especially when the game is popular, courses are more crowded, and pace of play is 5 plus hours. I try to get the first tee time at the least busy course. It's all you can do.
All we need is looong drives. 😂
Haha, that's easy for you to say my friend.
@@GolfTestDummy Training hard to regain what I have lost. 💪