As I get older and my eyesight gets worse, I tilt towards larger cases, especially with complications on the face. Unlike many who claim a given watch is a cheaper alternative to a more expensive counterpart, this Orient really is a better alternative to the Seiko in my opinion. I own both Seiko and Orient, and I will take Orient finishing and quality control over any Seiko 5.

Yes, because we all want that lovely 24-hr sub dial. Spoils so many watches for me.

@Sicarius888

17 күн бұрын

I feel the same. It could be independent gmt, chrono hours counter, power reserve or even 2 subdials instead of 3. Just not this useless am/pm indicator.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I know, I know

@Cohen.the.Worrier

14 күн бұрын

ikr

@grale78

14 күн бұрын

Can anybody explain me purpose of 24h dial on quartz? I prefer quartz but I didn't want to buy few watches that I like because of useless 24h dial. Including this one.

Thank You Mark. Another easy to understand and honest video. You are a great resource.

I don’t know.. me personally, I find the Seiko better looking 🤷🏼‍♂️

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

No worries, glad you like

The Seiko is an instant classic - wearing it now!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Good choice

beautiful orients! bracelet upgrades is a must and will buy in a heartbeat

Just picked this one up a couple of weeks ago! Absolutely love it.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Great to hear!

Both Orient and Seiko are amazing value (well Seiko used to be at least) but only Orient makes you feel guilty for buying the watch because it makes you feel like you ripped them off.

Great review! Have been scoping out the Orient for a while.

I love these! Thanks Mark!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Welcome!

I have this watch. It wears so well. Really like it. Currently have it on a white tropic for the summer. Really sharp that way!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

That sounds sweet!

I understand why people balk at an ~42.5mm watch, but at 48mm lug-to-lug, it is quite wearable. My own wrist is ~6.5 inches, and these dimensions fit me just fine. A point for consideration: I think a sports watch should be larger. A bigger watch is easier to read at a glance, which is a bonus if you're in the middle of something that demands more of your attention than normal.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

It fit me just fine as well. Great looking watch

The Orient has more lume, a signed crown and better finishing on the sub dial circular edges rather than the Seiko punch holes. I was offered a deal on the Seiko, which I'm considering as I thought it was better sized for me, but now I've seen them side by side here... Thanks Marc, most useful.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

glad it helped

Picked this up a couple of days ago, with a black, and a white rubber strap to go with. Excited for it to come in. My first panda.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Cool, enjoy

This is my 1st Orient, and the watch is beautiful. Other than the date wheel being recessed so far that it makes it hard to read I find it a very good looking watch. I put a white strap with black edges and a black buckle on it and it looks GREAT! Especially for the money. 👍😁👍

I bought the Seiko 40mm with the red chrono hand. It's classic and complete and the bracelet is well OK

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@halfsourlizard9319

14 күн бұрын

Seiko bracelet okay!? Sus.

the seiko looks sharp.. love it

Great review! Do like the orient but I would hope for a tachymeter bezel. Thanks again!

Marc, thanks for the video. I am so curious to see the movement architecture and compare it to the Seiko V175 and V192 movements. Also, have you heard of the reimagined Pogue that Saiko is coming out with in August? The SSC947 Special Edition.

I ❤️ my Orient Solar Chronograph (Panda). It reminds me of my ‘90s Seiko Sports Chronograph. I have it on a rally strap and it’s become my daily.

I used some cashback and got the Panda for a steal. I put it on a black and while rally strap and I can't stop staring at and admiring it's classic look. I also like the timing bezel, I actually use for my job.

Have you seen the newest release? The SSC947 is stunning …. and a Pogue homage 😍

I own a vaguely-similar Seiko: Having the dive-style bezel is actually quite useful -- for timing something at lower precision whilst you're timing with the chrono ... *or* for doing a countdown timer.

I wear mine on a black sailcloth strap, love the way it fits. Marc, Please, Please make a stainless bracelet for this 😁

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Noted, thank you

I have the Seiko Japan only model SBPY165 and love it. I feel it's the best of these 2 watches, combined.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Cool, thanks.

It's a good looking watch, solid piece at a great price. LI almost placed an order for it. However, that 24 hour dial is just pointless to me. I'm not in the submarine service, I can easily tell if it's basically day or night without my watch. I'm sure there are those who can put this to use, but it's not me. In fact I dropped off a watch return today because it had a 24 hour dial that I didn't noticed while shopping (my bad). Oh, and the huge font for the 12 is unappealing as well. Great review as always, though.

I lucked out and got a used ssc813 for nearly half off the retail price. The orient looks like a great alternative.

I was up in the air between the orient and the tach frog. Pulled the trigger on the TF . Size and sapphire were the closers.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Quite the name!

I almost bought the Orient over Seitona. But in the end, the Orient was a little large for my dainty, feminine wrists. The Seitona was more expensive, but had the right sized dial.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

It's a great looking watch, enjoy

Phenomenal value.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I think so

That 1521 is 🔥!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks!

I have also replaced the stock bracelet with Lorus stainless steel jubilee one. My Orient looks more refined with it

Black one looks sharp

I really like the pepsi one and I was very close to ordering it from your site. I just can not justify spending the money on it right now lol. Too many car repairs in the near future 😅 I already have a Seiko Prospex Monster Antarctica Penguin "Save The Ocean" that I don't wear enough. I have a Seiko Presage and a Bulova 21 Jewel that I wear more often though

Check out the Citizen CA4610-85A as well. Similar price range but in Eco drive and Titanium!

That blue is tempting. It would match my orient USA 2.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Love the USA 2!

Been trying to find solid end link jubilee bracelet that fit nicely for this one. No luck so far.

Marc, do you have a bracelet planned for the Speedtimers? Something with an on-the-fly adjustable clasp would be a differentiator against the few others making them out there. Thanks!

What is the Long Island price. Been looking at this watch for a year now. I have the large orient triton with the power meter in blue. It is one of my favorite watches. I like the Urban Gentry, and your channel. TY,

The reason the speedtimer is good is the dimensions.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

True. 39mm is so nice.

@richardandaya3932

17 күн бұрын

Once you said, “43 mm” I stopped watching the video. That’s just too big.

@pedrothevenard

17 күн бұрын

​@@richardandaya3932Not for my 8 inch wrist, it isn't.

@matzmx

16 күн бұрын

39mm with 20mm lug width is the best.

@_ChadM

16 күн бұрын

@@matzmx 20mm lug width and the bracelet tapering to 16mm.........

I bought the seiko Speedtimer. Classic look and better dimensions

Oooooo nice very nice I'm surprised seiko has allowed them to do this as they are the parent company. Although I could be mistaken

This piece is sharp. Good on Orient for ditching the tachymeter, hope that design choice continues to spread. Why are 24hr indicators still a thing? Is it difficult to convert them to elapsed hour dials? Can we just have more two subdial varieties? Asking rhetorically, but man these things just won't phase out.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Just to keep the dial balanced, otherwise, no good reason.

@iansclone

16 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch thanks, I knew I wasn't taking crazy pills

2:59 Black! Winner.

@Boogenhagen100

8 күн бұрын

exactly what I was thinking. that black is stunning

will the Coin Edge Bezel for Orient Ray and Mako Generation 2 #B04-P work on this watch. also thanks Mark and if you make bracelets for them i'm all in

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I haven't checked yet

Really nice watch. But why, oh why do these major watch companies cheap out on the bracelet and clasp? You can get a Chinese watch (and an Islander, for that matter) for less with sapphire, solid links, solid end links, milled clasp and, now, on the fly micro adjustable clasps. It makes no sense.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

The clasp is ghastly! LOL

@RaymondRakubian

17 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch That's why your stuff beats Seiko/Orient. You respect your customers.

It's a nice watch, but these things are highly subjective, and the white Speed Timer just looks better to me, I think mainly due to the bezel design, the slightly domed crystal and the better bracelet. That said, when I got mine I went with the JDM SKU given it was much cheaper than I could get the international one locally. As for Orient, they do make great watches overall -- My Kamasu is still one of my favourite daily drivers.

Wow! I just bought the white from Amazon Japan. I would have bought from you. I did buy a white curved end rubber bracelet, and I am one who asked you about a 22mm SS bracelet by email. I am interested. Ty. Also, bought a similar Tactical Frog that looks similar. The TF has a solar Seiko chrono. Both very accurate. Very important for me. I like to T Frog bracelet ok. No prob. Thanks! Lume much better on the Orient than T frog. Orient markers slightly blue, which is ok for me. Orient pushers more tactical than my copy of T frog.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks!

If you release a bracelet, don't forget the bezel, i would love to put a ceramic one on mine

I have the same white panda. But my chrono hand stops moving and resets after 1 hr.

I've been waiting for LIW to start carrying this watch!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

So have we, LOL

Marc, Please consider making end links for your Islander bracelets that work for rubber strap Mako/Ray models.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

noted

What is that green and red thing on the shelf behind you?

@stot9881

16 күн бұрын

It looks like a bottle of Sriracha Hot Sauce to me 🤔

@JM.TheComposer

16 күн бұрын

@@stot9881 I was kind of thinking Sriracha, but the cap is too big.

THE ORIENT IS A BEAUTIFUL WATCH BUT I RATHER THE SEIKO

Are the Chronograph the only ones that are solar for Orient? Didn’t know, thanks.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Nowadays. They used to make others.

😮Hey Marc could you tell me what's the difference between the RA model and the RN model I'm guessing it's just where it's sold in the world

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

do you mean to start off the numbers? I do believe that is a factory code.

@vincebrickner5529

17 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch yes well I do a little research the numbers are the same on these watches but the beginning letters are different. But there's also $100 difference in cost. Thanks for your help

I prefer a simple fold over clasp with a row of holes to any high end milled clasp with a grand total of two micro adjust holes. That disqualifies the Seiko imo.

Or if you don't mind putting in a battery I bought a Seiko brand meca quartz chronograph watch for under 200.00 USD. The leather strap it came with is not very good to keep in mind.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

cool, thanks for sharing.

Been trying to find will to pull the trigger on an Orient for years...maybe this year?

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Now is the time!

Thanks for sharing as always my friend Be well and Wheels Up 👍

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Thank you!

The Seiko is great and I like it a bit better, but it's just too small on my wrist. Wrist 7.5 inch ... and the Orient looks much better.

Dear Mark, do you guys ship to Saudi Arabia? Thank you my friend

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Yes

Forget both. Just get a Seiko Spirit SBTR027

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I'll check that out

I have this model. Got it last year and I have to say it was my best purchase of 2023. The quality you get for the price is fantastic.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks for sharing

Yeah I'll take the Seiko, mainly because it's obvious that it's what the Orient is trying to be

Orient delivers valuuuue.

What a terrific watch. Like everyone is saying, I wish it was smaller. Although judging from how it fits on your wrist, I could probably pull it off. Thanks for showing us the watch!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks for watching!

I am not a fan of chrono, but I purchased a couple of glycine chrono quartz several years ago for

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Good price

For me the Seiko looks leagues ahead sorry!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching.

My Neo 70 Panda Orient is better looking and cost me way less a few years back, crystal can be changed if needed and I don't dive with it so I don't mind to much about the water resist difference, design is going down but price up, kinda sad.

A diver watch bezel on a Chronograph, good choice. I've never used the tachymeter scale

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Most people don't. While it's an odd choice, it certainly is more useful.

@davect01

17 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch I know I never have

If only the Orient had a tachy bezel !!!!

Yeah, as a few people have said this model is really big and the lug to lug is out of control. I would love it if it were 39.

@clipse64485

17 күн бұрын

I have this watch and was worried about the size. It wears smaller than I expected. I have a 7 inch wrist and it feels great.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I'm a 6.5" wrist and I feel it fits me fine.

@clipse64485

17 күн бұрын

@@islandwatchI would 100% be down to get a bracelet from you for this watch. It’s really the only drawback I have with it.

Gah! It looks so good but that 24-hr subdial makes this a hard no. Otherwise I'd be putting my order in today. Why do they keep making those? 24-hour subdials are so worthless.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks, and I understand!

Can you get me the green one?

Speed timer is better looking and better measurements.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Maybe better proportions?

Don't like dents in bezels.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Me neither

@andyfrizzell4352

16 күн бұрын

Kinda puts me off the Orients. That and the "tobacco" company logo, boring/ old fashioned looking hour and minute hands, oh and that clasp. Quite a list, best I keep looking!

can't wait for Orient's answer to Seiko's GMTs.

@brianmccord7387

17 күн бұрын

@@benmoore7946 it’s funny that they haven’t already done this because they put out a dress GMT watch called the Polaris with their in-house 40P51 movement well before the NH34 was introduced. This seems like yet another example of Orient missing an opportunity to distinguish themselves in the value priced watch market.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

That would be a killer movement.

Nice watch. At 43mm it is too big for me. The solar concept is great, though. Throw it in the wash and dry it on high (shrink it) and I'm on board!

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

LOL

why are those virtually useless 24-hour complications there? were they originally made for those working in submarines or those who live down dark caves?

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Dial balance, just useless tho.

@TheShotenZenjin

17 күн бұрын

​@islandwatch I think balance could have been retained with a more useful complication, such as a separate time zone, an alarm or an hour timer. Seiko and Orient are merely constricted by their mass production of this cheaper-to-make movement. Having said that, it seems most purchasers of chronometers and pilot watches buy them purely for their busy look. Outside of the stopwatch function, I think the number of those who actually use such complications as tachymeters and slide rules will be close to zero.

anything beats seiko

@Makingnewnamesisdumb

17 күн бұрын

Even if it's a subsidiary of seiko?

@mark006868

17 күн бұрын

@@Makingnewnamesisdumb Ferrari is a subsidiary of Fiat....so yes...beats Fiat...

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I'm not so sure, but I love to hear opinions

@zillsburyy1

16 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch 90% of micros for example unless the seiko fan boys still love misaligned bezels, mineral glass and stamped clasps

@soundscaperecordings1111

16 күн бұрын

The Seiko is way prettier

Once seen cannot be unseen: The date is off-centre betw 4 and 5 ... Whyyyyyy!?

@halfsourlizard9319

14 күн бұрын

If they'd just done a 6 o'clock date, I'd impulse buy one immediately.

Would be an instant buy if it were 39 mm

@mark006868

17 күн бұрын

@_all_around_us...We would instant ban you...if you keep it up with the asinine comments...

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Maybe they didn't cause Seiko already did. Who knows.

@_all_around_us

13 күн бұрын

​@@mark006868wtf is your problem lol, quit being an asshole

43mm?! Did I wake up in 2005?

@schmidtythekidd

17 күн бұрын

I wish. Simpler times my friend.

@kaiwilliams141

17 күн бұрын

It's the classic Japanese style, a wide-ish diameter with a manageable and relatively short lug to lug

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

LOL

Im a big fan of Orient, but Im not feeling this one 😕

Glad Orient is still making watches for large wrists. With the US human population becoming thinner every generation, I can see the trend of smaller and smaller watches. Soon we will be back to the 1930’s with everyone wearing 33mm watches.

@aaronkossowan5142

17 күн бұрын

The USA population is getting thinner every generation 🤣

@etebol

17 күн бұрын

@@aaronkossowan5142 seriously, I can’t get my kid to buff up. And he eats like horse.

@brianmccord7387

17 күн бұрын

Do you have any reliable evidence for this assertion? I’m an American and I’m surrounded by fat people.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

I'm not so sure Americans are getting thinner.

@aaronkossowan5142

17 күн бұрын

@@etebolwe have the same problem. My two young boys are the same. In general though, Americans are definitely not getting thinner

Speed timer is many times vetter looking

Just chiming in with what everyone else seems to say....really nice but just too big!😞

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

no worries, chime away!

The Orient looks strange.

After one hour of chronograph, it doesn't continue to go around, it stops.

Orient wins again!

I just wished they stopped making these 24-hour sub-dials, or at least made them graphical moon-and-sun indicators. They're so useless.

Orient has some nice designs but they just make them too big wish they would make more divers under 40mm 🤦🏽‍♂️

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Maybe it's on the way!

@jimwashington860

17 күн бұрын

@@islandwatch we will see

Did you lose weight?

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

No.

having a dive bezel instead of tachymeter is an odd choice to make on a chronograph.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

But maybe more useful?

@andyfrizzell4352

16 күн бұрын

Who actually uses a tachy! Or is it because it looks more like an Omega

@js2000honda

16 күн бұрын

@@andyfrizzell4352 I like the tachometer on my Speed Timer, and when I want to wear something that “looks more like an Omega”, I’ll wear my Moonwatch Professional

why they make quartz watch so huge? 42.8mm? lolz :( poor my 15cm wrist

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Maybe they are stuck a decade back

Do yourself a favor spend the extra and buy a speedtimer. If you buy the orient you will regret you didn't spend the extra.

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

thanks!

...and not as well made as the Seiko. 😂

I can't the ugly orient logo

Orient is Meh. Seiko still looks better, I'd rather pay an extra 200 bucks

@islandwatch

17 күн бұрын

Great to hear!