All three of these barrel forging videos are fantastic! Thank you sir for taking the time to film them. Keep up the great work!

I figured this was the one where it wouldn’t work but you proved me wrong but I want to see them blow some lead! Side note I just remembered my great grandfather was a gun maker. He bought barrels and did the rest even the locks, and bolts of what gun was ordered from him. I believe he made a few barrels himself from what my grandfather told me. Kinda random but thought it was cool.

This barrel series is awesome. I was impressed how well the wrapped version turned out. Looking forward to this journey of discovery. Wow, them be fancy words I'm using. LOL

@veteranironoutdoors8320

4 жыл бұрын

Grandadz Forge this method suprised the hell outta me as well. It went way smoother than I feel it should have.

That is awesome, I was wondering and still am how you pulled that off! Forge welding master class, I love it!

Nice. It’s really cool to see all three methods finally.

You have all my respect for the three methods you did In particular this one

That one ended way better than I expected as well. Great work!

I can't believe only 14 likes this is one of the most amazing things I've seen you make Jared I am so proud of you

@veteranironoutdoors8320

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Principato yeah I don’t know what happened. The first video exploded and the other two have been good performers, but nothing like the first.

Really amazing Jared,I didn't even know that kind of weld was possible,thanks!

Here we are under Prez 46 and I had pretty much given up on the notion of making my own pipes by forging them. Watching videos online make the whole process look so complicated and most of them require thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of machine shop type equipment. Now, however, as I move my family "out of the city" and into a small town on a couple of acres, I'm seeing the very real possibility of putting in a subterranean blacksmith shop combined with my above ground regular workshop. Thanks both for your service, young man, as well as sharing this wonderful wisdom. God Bless you and our beloved America.

@veteranironoutdoors8320

3 жыл бұрын

Be careful of carbon monoxide. I have to stop forging after 4 hours in my shop due to the prevailing wind blowing the forge exhaust back in through my door due to the layout of my shop. Nearly died figuring this out.

@jasonstarr6419

3 жыл бұрын

@@veteranironoutdoors8320 That's excellent advice. I doubt that I will get a canary, but that might be an option. :)

Ready to see if they blow up!

@veteranironoutdoors8320

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Jenkins you and me both!

I too am very optimistic about the performance of this barrel I also think that when it comes time for drilling you will have a lot less work to do. Looking forward to the testing.

Really good video, very interesting.

How did I miss this release... weird this is my favorite, it is also the only one that I have seen done before.

@veteranironoutdoors8320

4 жыл бұрын

Ouroboros Armory I think it’s because I uploaded this the day after another upload, so it got lost in the sauce view wise.

Holy crud. Once I realized what you were doing, my mind went 🤯! This HAS to be the most complex of the methods I've seen. Is there an increase in overall quality, you think?

@veteranironoutdoors8320

3 жыл бұрын

This one did turn out quite nice, I feel it was the strongest of the three, and because it was wrapped around a perfectly round mandrel to begin with, the as forged bore was very nice, easy to drill. However the chances for flaws are exponentially higher, and the inside did not weld up anywhere near as good as method 1, I had to remove quite a bit of meat to get to welded steel the whole length, though I feel this is because the square stock I used had radiused edges from the factory, and some of my wraps were wonky.

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@veteranironoutdoors8320

9 ай бұрын

Bro you gotta translate that for me. I cant tell if thats korean or chinese so I dont even know what to plug into a translator.

Imagine doing a long rifle this way

@veteranironoutdoors8320

Жыл бұрын

Theres a video of it in my “historical blacksmithing footage” playlist. Iirc, its “cannons damas le fabrication”

I imagine it’s much easier to do this on a pistol length barrel. I have had some ideas I’ve wanted to try as far as black powder guns go for a while and making my own barrels is necessary due to the extreme expense involved. I have a few questions before I try for myself though. Would you use a bigger mandrel to make a bigger bore? Would this be possible without a stage block? And finally, could you do this with round stock? I have tons of rebar and round stock scraps and it would be great if I could use some of that stuff to make a black powder pistol.

@veteranironoutdoors8320

Жыл бұрын

Yes you would use a bigger mandrel for a bigger bore. You need a swage, it doesn’t have to be a block, it can be a hardy swage. You can do it with round stock so long as you make it rectangular or square first.

many when making this type of pipe by forging they used 3 mm steel wire which was wound in a spool of several cm in thickness and then forged it all into molds with semicircular hammers

@veteranironoutdoors8320

3 жыл бұрын

Goce Kocov look into my playlists and you will want “historical blacksmith footage” and from there you will want to select “canons de damas” something or another.

Nice method brother I use galvanized steel pipe and another oversize pipe to double thickness at breech And want to use this pipe as a muzzleoder gun barrel . It pretty strong enough to hold pressure What s your opinion on this Do I should use this as a barrel or not Thanks

@veteranironoutdoors8320

Жыл бұрын

You’ll shoot yer eye out, kid.

Interesting work thru. Cant help but ponder if there were a follower to help keep the coiling process straight and tight would reduce the number of welding heats and labor involved? In itself would be an intensive effort to construct though I'd reckon. Perhaps some sort of manual screw mandrel that would be set to draw the square stock directly from the forge to the mandrel keeping pressure coaxial both to the mandrel and against the coil previous wrapped. Doable I'm sure once the gearing issues were calculated and an attachment were designed an attatch to the forge in proximity close enough to keep the bar stock up to temp yet drawn slowly enough to allow the stock to come to temp as its drawn through the forge fire itself. Given your wrapped and welded bbl were going to be rifled... I would propose the wrapweld would want to be done in a manner exact counter to the rifling rotation to reduce torsional pressure imparted coliniar to the weld rotation. Ie. Right rifle twist would call for left rotation forge welds. Boy did that run off on a rabbit trail lolololol 🙏 blessed days sirSir Crawford out 🧙‍♂️

@veteranironoutdoors8320

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Crawford I have a playlist called “historical blacksmith footage” and in it is a video called “cannons le damas” (something like that) but it is a video on how spiral wrapped Damascus gun barrels used to be made. Two guys per team working on the barrel

I’m surprised that the coil didn’t warp/close up in the swage. When you were done, it was still a good looking, clean consistent inside tube all the way down the middle. Is it just light taps and a swage that keeps it circular and not collapse the inside?

@veteranironoutdoors8320

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a combination of the bottom swage and light-medium EVEN hammer blows. Keep the barrel blank rotating the entire time. Give it a good looking over every few heats to see if you are introducing any oblongs into it, and if you are, position the top of the oblong in the fire so it gets the most heat. Then light blows on it until you get the oblong out.

Hola Amigo . Se puede hacer un cañón largo con ese metodo...?

@veteranironoutdoors8320

Жыл бұрын

Si, amigo. Verificar “cannons damas le fabrication” en youtube

NEW IDEA: start with two billets of Damascus steel, with a groove in the center like you did in the Method 1 video. Rivet the corners together with small pin rivets. Heat the whole barrel, then using a ceramic, clay, or other high temp lubricant screw in a hardened steel threaded rod slightly smaller than your end bore diameter. Now proceed to beat the hell out of it to get a solid weld. Unscrew your center rod if you can. Reheat the barrel and try to put the rod back in cold. Yes it will steal heat quickly but it should still provide enough difference in temp that with the lubricant it shouldn't seize up. Twist your barrel to get a spiral design on the barrel. Straighten the barrel and try to unscrew the central rod. Clean up your bore and ream it out, riffle it, and set it up for a test fire. If the idea works, or with your experience making a few changes, can be made to work... You could end up with an absolutely beautiful barrel for a heirloom firearm. I also have wondered though I don't know how feasible it is, if you could build in a kind of electrical arc system like a spark plug. Ignite the black powder with an electrical charge like blasting caps do. Trigger just completes a circuit from a rechargeable battery hidden in the stock rather than percussion caps or flint lock. Kind of a mix of the old and the new. Stock made from say a weathered and worm eaten old fence post that was encased in epoxy resin for strength, also making it easier to hide the electronics in the stock. Small USB charging port recessed in the butt for recharging the Lithium battery. Be one hell of a pretty conversation piece.

@veteranironoutdoors8320

3 жыл бұрын

The whole first part of that is overly complicated for what we are trying to achieve at this point in the manufacturing process, and wouldn’t work for a number of reasons. And I have seen an Idea similar to that before. I forget the brand/maker but for a short time they marketed an electronically ignited black powder rifle. Must not have sold well.

@michaelshultzinger4902

3 жыл бұрын

@@veteranironoutdoors8320 Ah, wasn't thinking of it to sell. As to the first issue, found information on doing it very similar. I just don't know that I've got the skill or the tools. Still my forge should be set up before fall and maybe I'll give it a whirl. Was really more planning to work plate armor but hey everyone's got to have that odd project to keep them frustrated right?

@veteranironoutdoors8320

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelshultzinger4902 I wish you luck in your endeavors, and I will be here should you need advice.