It’s unfortunate that the $10K-$15K Ford dealership markups are erasing all price advantages, and then some.

@markparent7999

2 жыл бұрын

Should be able to order them factory direct to your house.

@svthippy

2 жыл бұрын

it will drop , just demand is high. most ford products are back ordered right now.

@cashmoney7660

2 жыл бұрын

Dealer markups not only on the Mach e but also the GT 500 ,raptor, bronco,Ford GT supercar ,the previous GT 350 etc. It feels nice to be loved

Best content, best presentation of the Mach E GT (P PK), and I’ve watched most ….. Thanks Alex!

I think it's one of the best looking electric cars out there

Been an occasional viewer, and it’s been a while since I checked in. Your delivery has really been polished and it’s much more engaging than I recall from the past. The reviews have a logical flow that hits on the tangential stuff along the way as needed. There’s a time and place for shenanigans in car reviews, but the no-nonsense approach is never out of place. Great stuff.

OMG the carplay screen size has been increased!!! That sold me right there. Ordered.

Let me echo that this is a *really good* review! I was on the fence between the long-range Premium vs. the GT performance but this helped me decide (LR Premium for me since I’m past my “gotta go fast!” driving desires). Keep up the great work.

The wheels on your Mustang Mach E GT are some of the best looking wheels period. I call the Mach E a hatchback like the Stinger GT2. Regarding the interior. I find it excellent in the Premium of which my son owns. Any time we visit each other. I can't resist taking in out for a drive. If you haven't test driven a Mach E. You're missing out on some solid performance with it's instant torque in a hatchback that handles extremely well. He looked at a Tesla And wasn't impressed with it's fit and finish, especially the paint job or in some cases the lack of. I feel Ford has hit several home runs with the Mustang Mach E, Broncos, Maverick Lightning and the refreshed front end and the interior of the Expedition

@ghostmofo5829

2 жыл бұрын

I have also seen multiple people post about Tesla quality problems. The paint and fit and finish are among the biggest problems. Cheap looking materials also.

I like aggressive regen for at least one reason that I do not see mentioned much. In an emergency reaction situation, you do not have to wait until your foot moves to the brake pedal. The moment that you lift off the accelerator, you are slowing down.

@donswier

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see another driver appreciate this aspect. Reaction time is a huge factor in emergency braking, and the initial regen braking also prevents a sudden, weight-shifting spike once the friction brakes are engaged. Our i3REx with fixed, heavy regen is awesome in heavy traffic.

@_TrueDesire_

2 жыл бұрын

@@donswier i don’t know what you mean with fixed regen on the i3, i think it’s more linear since the regeneration increases the more you let go off the accelerator/gas pedal.

Great first look, Alex! That magneride suspension would be nice in northern climates where the roads get beat up by frost cracks, etc. Do you feel like the ride difference would be worth, say, a $2k upgrade if such an option were available on the Premium edition that you have? Here's hoping that you post an announcement when you decide to sell your Mach-E. I'd be willing to drive it back from California, even if it would be during the winter... :)

I love it but in Canada it’s another EV that seems just so expensive. Up here a Premium extended range AWD Mach E is about 74K, plus tax (13% in Ontario). A GT is going to be about 85K, plus tax. A GT performance will be over 100K out the door.

@rocketman3158

2 жыл бұрын

Wait. Buy it used in about 2 years.

@kromahj

2 жыл бұрын

@@rocketman3158 I don't think I want to buy a EV used right now

@amanasd26

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it doesn't make much sense when you can buy a fully loaded Genesis G70 for about 60K and not worry about the range deterioration with the extremely cold climate at times.

@robdc4829

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much the Ioniq5 will come at in Canada. I saw a Ford Maverick for the first time today - pretty tempting given its less than $30k CDN in the trim I'd get, it's very practical, and gets 40 mpg city.

@theslimeylimey

2 жыл бұрын

Get used to it. The way we are going to deal with traffic congestion is make driving so expensive only wealthy people will be able to do it.

Many EV early adapters will be shocked at how fast vehicles will evolve (charge time, distance and cost). The residual value slope will be interesting.

@faywhite7886

2 жыл бұрын

OTAs will keep residuals/resale values high?

@bfish9700

2 жыл бұрын

Dont forget about battery pack degradation.

@AFJDM

2 жыл бұрын

On one hand batteries do slowly lose range and thus decrease the value along with simple wear and tear to the interior and moving mechanical parts in the powertrain. However the yearly maintenance and fueling costs are much lower than ICE vehicles and software updates could help an EV that loses 20 miles of max range over time regain some if not all of that. EVs will depreciate for sure but they are gonna do so at a noticeably slower rate, for better or worse.

@coniccinoc

2 жыл бұрын

@@AFJDM Waana buy some used laptops? How about cell phones, TVs, maybe some nice slightly used MP3 players?

@djaftermath4313

2 жыл бұрын

@@bfish9700 Driver dependent. They gotta know proper charging procedure to prolong battery charging capacity

I came across a video showing Lucid motors EV cars achieving 500 miles on a single charge. I spit my coffee out of my mouth when I saw the price tag of their lux cars. $165,000.00. Thanks Alex.

@robertduklus6555

2 жыл бұрын

the future of private car ownership will not be geared towards the Joneses of the world. Enjoy it while you can.

@InvestBetter.

2 жыл бұрын

You get what you pay for

@steinwaymodelb

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertduklus6555 It's a luxury car. Many models of luxury cars have been similarly priced for generations. It's nowhere near the top either. Over the next 5 years as manufacturers achieve scale production on batteries, there is a very realistic prospect that entry level vehicles will cost less than comventional vehicles ever did.

@emed1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertduklus6555 That will be and is already a reality for certain regions/countries. Cities are more expensive to own and maintain cars and in some cases you don’t need one. For most of the rest of the U.S., like suburbs and rural areas that future is still a long time from now.

@robertduklus6555

2 жыл бұрын

@@steinwaymodelb your last sentence, this will never materialized, never. This is not even remotely intention of the manufacturers or the social policy creators. The future, not too distant, will minimize individual car ownership.

This will most likely be the vehicle that makes me jump to the electric propulsion side. Thank you Ford!

@Challenged_by_Krill

2 жыл бұрын

Just got the GT performance yesterday, best car I’ve ever driven

24:20 I always laugh when Alex says “hoot and a half”

The GT front end treatment looks better. I also think the regular Mach-E with its 2 ton curb weight riding on 225 width tires to be very under-tired, so the upgrade to 245 width is worthwhile even with the EV range hit for the driving performance alone.

@jamesseay9943

2 жыл бұрын

Agree about the front end treatment; I had front grill wrap installed on my Star White premium model, like the GT has. Tire width increase trades range for better performance, pick your poison.

Great review. I still cant decide between the Premium and GT. Thanks Alex for more clarity. 👍

Good video👍. Mach e would be the best name. Being old school it seems odd putting it in low for one pedal driving. I would be thinking of low as first gear

Top notch review, the best. Today all the professional reviewers got turned loose to talk. I saved yours till last and was not disappointed. You nailed it Alex. Ford is competing here against the Model Y and its doing so with its first team, the Mustang! You confirmed what a Ford rep told me at Mustang Week in Myrtle Beach a few weeks ago; GTPE with Magna Ride improves the ride quality in all drive configurations. For that reason alone, it may be worth it for me to move up to the GE PE trim level. Thank you Alex.

@rho008

2 жыл бұрын

I'll be passing you by at the Ford dealerships Repair shop.

@rkgsd

2 жыл бұрын

@@rho008 In your Tesla with paint defects and misaligned body panels?

I’ve watched your videos for years Alex and am so appreciative of the amount of content you provide. I’ve been contemplating a Model Y and it appears this is the first genuine contender. Are there others besides the Y and this @Alex?

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

The Jaguar ipace is similarly sized, I don't know the price of that one though. You could also consider the new EVs from Hyundai and KIA (Ioniq 5 and EV6) as competition, but those haven't been produced yet.

@rocketman3158

2 жыл бұрын

Chevy Bolt

@TheGerm24

2 жыл бұрын

@@rocketman3158 I have a Bolt and like it, but it isn't a Model Y competitor.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

There are models coming from so many companies, and they differ in various ways. The Hyundai/Kia models are handsome and have a great combination of range and charging speed, but it's too soon to know how well they drive. Most of the European models offer a lot less range (it's less of a priority there), but can be nice otherwise. Personally, I think this market category will look very different in a couple of years. It might be a little too soon to get a sense of where we're going.

@mattbrew11

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Y and now I have a mustang. Get the ford. Its a much more enjoyable ride and far more attractive car

In Canada model Y long range is 70k, Mach E GT is 90k. With the model Y's better range, better charging network and I would bet better reliability. I will take the Y all day long!

@jamesseay9943

2 жыл бұрын

Problem on your range argument. EPA paper range vs. real world range that counts. Just saying to take a further look.

@ReviewsByVince

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesseay9943 So your saying the mach e has better range than a model Y long range?

@PhilT993

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, in Canada the Mach E GT Performance starts at $85,000 and the comparable Tesla Model Y Performance starts at $84,000, I would still take the Tesla.

Way to go, Ford! Proud of y'all.

@jcoats5529

2 жыл бұрын

Made in Mexico. Lol

Great review as always, and love the look of the vehicle -- especially the front grille. Maybe they'll start putting it on all the Mach E models. A big improvement on what I consider is the regular Mach E's homeliest feature.

12:19 when you said "engine start/stop" button, not so sure about that

For those who didn't know, Alcantara is a brand of synthetic suede. Suede itself is just brushed leather, think raw cowhide... iirc.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and many things described as "Alcantara" are not the real thing, just other fabrics with a sueded finish. Alcantara is a brand name, as is Ultrasuede, a competitor very popular for clothing 40 years ago, where heavier Alcantara was mainly an upholstery fabric.

I think the adaptive dampers are what sets this apart from Teslas. My Model 3 is bouncy like Alex always says, and adaptive dampers would probably solve that problem. It adds some complexity, but hopefully a lot more EVs offer adaptive dampers soon.

@megaroeny

2 жыл бұрын

Does that mean it can be softer on bumps too? The Model S and X have adaptive air suspension though.

@garrettw99

2 жыл бұрын

@@megaroeny yeah you can make the ride softer or firmer with adaptive suspension. That’s why the Model S and X are more comfortable, but I believe those have air suspension, which is a little different

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@megaroeny Air suspension also introduces long-term reliability issues that adaptive dampers don't.

@ayushmalpeddi2793

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 Agreed, but Teslas have been robust. Model S have had it since 2014. German air suspensions are complete ass and fail all the time. But I think Teslas is good enough to the point where they can add it to the Model Y for an extra 2K upcharge.

You really don’t need an EV faster than mid-5s to 60. You will be substantially faster than all traffic around you anyway and you are not going to track a 2-ton vehicle. All you get with more power is a greater chance of accidentally severely speeding or going into a corner way way too fast because of how well EVs hide speed.

@jim6807

2 жыл бұрын

someone can’t drive 💀

@Sylvan_dB

2 жыл бұрын

"need" LOL. When did any of this become about "need"? What does tracking a vehicle have to do with "need'? How did you arrive at "need" for mid-5s instead of mid-6s or mid-8s? Why do you feel compelled to tell others what they need? I find that those who proclaim what others "need" come with varying amounts of one or both attributes: * severely narcissistic (and typically trying to fake how much they care) * profoundly stupid (and convinced they are smarter and so must take care of everyone else) Both attributes make it difficult or impossible for the sufferer to understand the meaning of "people are different."

@mattbrew11

2 жыл бұрын

We didnt need cars when horses were standard

I'm 1 year late! But it's still my dream Alex.

The Mach E’s door handle solution is pretty silly. If they were gonna do the coat hook solution, both front and back doors should’ve had it for symmetry. Otherwise, why not just do a manual pop out handle or something into the door? The current “handles” just don’t look that good. Car is good overall, just seems like a bad design decision in both form and function.

In what driving conditions do you benefit from having the adaptive damping on the GT?

Another great review Alex. This is a really compelling product.

@seemaprathapan7354

2 жыл бұрын

Elon musk sucks

Great video! Very informative!

i really like the interior design and materials looks good too.... (thankfuly no leather seats :P ) that small display behind the steering wheel is a big plus. exterior looks better with that front "grille" and wheels are awesome.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

I think the body-colored wheel arches may be the biggest improvement. It's a small thing, but it makes this look more car-like, less like an SUV. I had to look at it a while to figure out what the difference was from the side, but that's the big one.

@splatbubble

2 жыл бұрын

I scrolled down to try and find the first comment that actually mentioned the NO leather. This is freaking awesome and I am so psyched that high performance cars are being offered with this.

When a Ford is considered to be substantially better quality you know you have a QA problem. I could never spend so much money on a Tesla to have the issues their line-up has.

Do you think/know if the GT has a newer/faster processor for infotainment or is it just better tweaked software? Asking as a First Edition owner who is wondering if we'll eventually get what seems to be the snappier infotainment and better Carplay display

Not often we see Alex giddy...or giggling while mid review. Makes one want to try one 🤔

@davedave1398

2 жыл бұрын

He also owns one so there is some bias

@ElroyMcDuff

2 жыл бұрын

​@@davedave1398 Bias? He's not trying to sell them.

@optionsf

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I enjoyed the giggles as the acceleration kicked in.

@mattbrew11

2 жыл бұрын

@@davedave1398 hes more critical BECAUSE he owns one. I absolutely love mine and I had a model Y before it

You said you don't use 1-PD... What is your preferred driving mode and set up (D vs L)?

Alex, you really have the reviews down, great job!

What is the tested winter range like? Living here in the upper midwest, that’s helpful information to have when considering a car that will be driven in below zero temperatures part of the year.

Apparently, that 480 hp is only good for 7 seconds, then it cuts it back to 200 hp due to motor design. Did you ask the Ford engineers why the car has no towing capability? Ford has gotten you to all report the 0-60 times, but isn’t giving you the whole story.

@AAutoBuyersGuide

2 жыл бұрын

No towing capacity in the USA, because they are too lazy to do the SAE tests, in Europe it is rated as towing is more common with this type of vehicle

Possible to put markers on your videos for different segments?

By the way, what a scenic drive! Looks beautiful out there!

Sadly the BlueCruise prep package and glass roof are extra. That makes the GT PP $14,000 more than my Mach E 4X. Sure would love to have the GT but I think I spent a ton of money buying my '21 F150 Limited Powerboost 4x4 and my Mach E Premium 4X. I'm very satisfied with my car.

@BullittKid08

2 жыл бұрын

Blue cruise is standard on the 21' Premium and California Route 1 edition fwiw

I like the color. I also like the fact that the fenders aren’t black. I’d not like that look on either the ID.4 or the mini SE.

This looks good, I like it.

I'm kinda regretting not ordering the performance option on my GT. The only thing I wanted from the GTPE was the magnaride, but 5k?

@stupiddingo02

2 жыл бұрын

Same. And the fact that those summer tires are going to need to be instantly replaced with winter coming in the PNW adding to the cost. Still, really happy to have waited it out for my GT, already shipped and just 2 more weeks until delivery... Been a long wait since my deposit in Feb.

Nice video, Alex. I live in New Jersey, and temperatures are sometimes very cold and also very hot and humid. Would an EV be advisable if you don't have a garage? Thanks!

WOW! Best review of a vehicle, EVER! Thank you.

Ordered one....get it next May

hopefully the suspension changes are complemented by the stability enhancements and it will be able to pass the standardized moose test. Not so lucky last time it was tested.

OMG Alex. How do you drive on such a bumpy road and still talk so well.

By the way, the performance MachE require additional packages for the glass roof, etc.

Alex you're losing your composure... you're giggling! ☺

Never been a Ford fan! They keep this up and I may have to purchase a Ford.

@raknoknak

2 жыл бұрын

Dont.. their reliability is s***

@Cjdergrosse

2 жыл бұрын

@@raknoknak at least they don’t catch on fire like @chevy bolts

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@raknoknak Not bad, per Consumer Reports. Not Toyota good, either. Just average.

Not sold on the looks of this thing especially the interior with that info screen nor the seats nor the dash. It would be a turn off for me. But I hate the Tesla one screen for everything too. Give us electric with actual buttons someone. Great review.

I like the look of it......maybe not the color(a little flashy) but i like the shape and the normalcy of it thumbs up!

The window switches and lock/unlock switches are the same switches I had on my 2014 Lincoln. How long can you recycle from the pats bin?

@cherch

2 жыл бұрын

If they work, why change it?

@ehlava

2 жыл бұрын

the achilles heel of the Ford design process. Frankencar.

How is the power with regards to that 5-second full power limit and the power limit after it passed 80mph?

I'm curious if Ford will make a fastback coupe version of the Mach E. This is a good crossover that will likely sell well, but after seeing that Mini ev, I'm starting to think that a lower range small ev can also sell well if driving is fun.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be surprised. This is already a lot closer to the coupified utes than it is to any classic SUV.

As usual Alex, you're spot on with your assessments. The Y keeps going up in price and down in reliability, so it's off my list. I never liked the minimalist interior or the rubber ducky face, and the glass roof has no shade. I do like the room inside and the responsive screen, though I wished it swiveled toward the driver more, instead of looking slapped onto the dash. I do like the styling of the Mach-e and EV6 the most of all the EV SUV's. I don't like the weight of the e's battery and inefficiency. The EV6 uses a 77 kWh battery to get the same range and performance, albeit in a smaller package, and at a lower price. Both can get the current $7500. tax credit, but Ford may be elegible for more if the battery is made here in the US and if congress passes the EV credit bills. Surprisingly, the Mach-e is made in Mexico.

Model Y can sit 7. No? How many can sit in a Mach E? Are they really the same category?

Ford makes me face palm so hard. What's the benefit of an electric frunk release that you can't actually open from the key? Just... why? Who's the genius at Ford making these decisions.

@mattbrew11

2 жыл бұрын

The people trying to keep the price down and thus skipping a whole new key series for one current model.

No engine? NOW you have my attention!!!!

Alex, how have you found the charging network? MKB did a test here on the east coast and he ran into a lot of problems finding working charging stations. I’m looking to move into a new vehicle around April ‘22 and wanted to go full EV, but those issues are a deterrent. I thought I was past the idea of range anxiety but the thought of arriving at a charge station before running out of power, only to find they’re not working or charging properly is troublesome.

@JamesThomas-dn6ee

2 жыл бұрын

Ford is sending people out to find the bad stations and will be repairing them

@jdsteel

2 жыл бұрын

An EV should not be your only vehicle.

@twistedbarbell3950

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdsteel It wouldn't be, but I can only drive one at a time.

I really like the Mach e but something that bugs me up with this car is that its built like an SUV crossover but lacks an important feature considering this category which is ground clearance. Its equal or maybe lower than a ford focus. What's the point of making it a crossover?

Looks good in yellow

Where is the rearview camera??? I want to know if the car has 360 view.

@ 12:59 ...the flashing lights for driver monitoring. I see that it is flashing while you are driving. OMG, I hope this can be turned off. If not this will be so annoying esp at night!

Beautiful!

I'm looking forward to seeing these Mustangs spinning out and wrecking at local Cars and Coffee events. 😉

Lots and lots of words about the (mostly) trivial differences between Mach E models. Have you seen the video of the Mach E miserably failing the moose test?

The GT does look good being lowered like that, but the overall shape is still kinda eh. If it was a little more sedan shaped that would make it a serious contender for a lot of enthusiasts.

@jamesseay9943

2 жыл бұрын

You may very well see that coming next. For now, most consumers desire the cross over. Elon Musk and Jim Farley know this. Mustang Mach-E competes with Tesla Model Y, not other ICE cars.

compare to the traditional manufacturers, Ford is on track but getting less than 300miles with 91kw battery pack is efficiency problem there

Alex is the kind of guy to listen to a song called Mustang in a Mustang. We see you, Alex. 👀

@FantomLightning

2 жыл бұрын

Completely and entirely off topic... Dear lord sir are you handsome 😍

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@FantomLightning You might have to fight with his husband over him.

@FantomLightning

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 Lol doesn't surprise me, the ones that normally check my boxes are often already taken.

Whats the range when its -10f and i gotta get to work?

That’s INSANE. I love my base Mach e but this is better in every way lol

Supposed to be 3.8, but when you floored it YT shows it took 5 seconds. The performance GT is supposed to be 3.5 but yours looked about 4.5. Was there a reason for such a difference that I missed?

@CorgiAndKeebs

2 жыл бұрын

If the car isn't in unbridled extend mode, the car's throttles back the power output typically after one 0-60 run due to the battery and powertrain warming up too much and the cooling system isn't doing a good job. It's pretty sad that Ford would market the GT & GTPE as a performance lineup with all the shortcomings. You can't even get in one good quarter mile run since the car throttles back the power after 70 mph, which is why it traps lower than it should in the 1/8th and 1/4 mile. Trap speeds are roughly 86 and 104 mph, respectively. This thing should be trapping at 92 and 113 mph, roughly. In terms of performance, no Tesla owner would be worried. Even the 50-70 acceleration is inferior, roughly 1.9-2.0 seconds. Even the Model Y Long Range with the acceleration boost is faster (1.7s). The Y Performance does 50-70 in 1.5s. Pros and cons to each. Tesla has the better charging network, better software, better performance. Ford has a nicer interior, better seats (GTPE), dealer network is more established. Tesla still needs to establish more service centers. Ford needs to improve on software (PaaK, UI responsiveness) along with more performance out of the GT & GTPE.

@ip4pwn1

2 жыл бұрын

Car manufacturers, including Tesla, use what’s called a ‘rollout’ for 0-60, this is common in the drag racing world. The timer starts when the rear wheels cross where the front wheels were at start.

@RDYOUTUBE54

2 жыл бұрын

@@ip4pwn1 uh it's a 1 foot roll out, not a 10 foot rollout. So you're wrong.

@ip4pwn1

2 жыл бұрын

@@RDKZread54 okay, so part of my statement was wrong. Not the whole thing.

@RDYOUTUBE54

2 жыл бұрын

@@ip4pwn1 Actually I re read your whole statement and yes you're totally wrong. In drag racing you get zero rollout. Once you break the beam the clock starts. Even in bracket racing, the slower car will get a head start but even if he breaks that beam before green he's disqualified.

Those farging lights are migrainey ! Holy...

Hot summer nights in Sausalito . . . well, maybe not. This colour scheme really emphasizes the intended 'sport-back' appearance as it really over shadows the black roof.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and one reason I think it looks so good. The body-colored wheel arches also help it look more planted and car-like.

First thing to go would be those wheels and tires...if a 20 x 10 fits, they'd go on with at least a 275/35.

@jamesseay9943

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, if you want to increase track performance, but on the street you will trade off on range.

@tri3pleagent

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesseay9943 yeah I get it...I drive a V8 now. Range is not my main concern.

I would take the eAWD / long range version with the GT-PP wheels and magnetic dampeners in a second if they offered it. PS. I hate the regular GT wheels. They look like flower designs that belong on a VW Beetle.

the GT looks so much better than the regular one, this one i actually like

take a shot every time he says "immitation"

23:58 It's not yellow, it's "Cyber Orange" lol

I think the e platform should come on all Ford vehicles as on option...not sure why they can't make a modular base and just change the body just as they did with the "fox" for decades

The amazing part is they Aprox 90 mpg equivalent! You save 80% on fuel costs!

Isn't the blue cruise a $1,999 option on the GT and GTPE

Seems that Ford dealers are slapping on an extra 20K for these cars. One I seen took the price 90K, Don't think Tesla has to worry right now

Is power still cut after 5 seconds?

Waiting for the F-150 lighting.

Now we know why they dropped the power rating for the 22’ Mustang GT

I've seen with the moose test Ford did typical Mustang chassis tuning. Which means someone is more likely to make an arse of themselves leaving the cars and coffee. True to the Mustang name. I wonder if they have addressed this with the GT. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZISIsaScaJuZqso.html

@peterfernandezjr5914

2 жыл бұрын

Even the Hyundai Ioniq did better.

@peiguy1982

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterfernandezjr5914 Yes most manufacturers dial in the understeer.

@robertduklus6555

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterfernandezjr5914 evn ioniq did better? Ioniq/kia ev6 especially, are way ahead of mustang e in every aspect.

@peterfernandezjr5914

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertduklus6555 yeah, but they're not supposed to be "sporty cars" Mustang is, if they did not make it so, they should have never used the Mustang name .

@didiermejia780

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't that test done with Mach E RWD and the rest AWD?

Sausalito is awesome..enjoy

I absolutely love my mach E I just wish id waited for the GT. Much more enjoyable than my problematic model Y

@williamlowery4191

2 жыл бұрын

If you don’t mind me asking, what was problematic about your model Y? I was contemplating Tesla and was what your drawback was?

@mattbrew11

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamlowery4191 at delivery it had LOTS of cosmetic and one mechanical issue. Multiple service trips later those were at least acceptable After delivery it stopped charging overnight multiple times, the screen would randomly go black and the last straw was it just powered off going down the freeway. Fortunately it was 1130 at night. As soon as they replaced the stuff that failed I traded it. Comparatively, my mustang went back for wind noise due to a failed windshield seal but they fixed that and its been flawless since. Its also way more fun in turns and I strongly prefer the breaking feel

@williamlowery4191

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow!! Glad you’re alright. So far I’m at a crossroads with the Mach-E and the model 3. I’ll end up test driving both but not up for a new car for at least 3 more years. Thanks for the information! Sounds like you chose the right car!

In the view in the trunk, it looks like the rear seats fold down. Do they?

@jdsteel

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Split seat arrangement. Both go down for a decent amount of space.

Is there a way to get in the doors in an emergency?

Thanks for the excellent review, Alex! I’m not a fan of the look of the front seats. They don’t exactly scream “luxury” to me, although I presume the theory is that they’re good on the track. I’d have to see how the feel.

@tri3pleagent

2 жыл бұрын

It's not a luxury vehicle. Never made those claims.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@tri3pleagent Exactly. This is still a Ford, not a Lincoln. It's a mainstream automaker. Nobody expects fancy materials in an Edge or Explorer, and they can get pricey in the higher trim levels.

@jdsteel

2 жыл бұрын

My Mach e front seats are very comfortable.

@mr88cet

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdsteel good to hear. Which version of Mach E do you have?

@davidoblock414

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr88cet Premium edition, AWD, Standard battery. With no transmission bump in the back 3 passengers are comfortable in the back, too.

For the money, interior materials, lack of 3 climate zones, iffy front seats are all a downer. Also, personally I hate glass roofs without a means to close it ala ID.4.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

I do find the lack of proper seat adjustments stupid. How much would a tilt mechanism cost? There are a few other odd omissions that Ford's bean counters shouldn't have been able to push through. This is not a cheap vehicle. Look at how much Hyundai and Kia offer for the same money, Ford. That should be where you start.

Looks like it has a rough ride. Road noise seemed loud.

A "grill" has holes in it. That thing on the front is a "panel".

Does anyone know what these actually weigh yet? Curious as the loaded mach e4x awd er can hit over 4900#+ So the gt with even larger brakes wheels&tires, dual large drive unit's, glass roof and upgraded seats. Likely tops 5000# 🤔

@legacy404

2 жыл бұрын

when everyones driving 5000 lb EV's, wonder how much faster were gonna chew through tires/brakes/etc...

@4literv6

2 жыл бұрын

@@legacy404 brakes can last 3-5 time's as long due to the regenerative braking capabilities of evs. And even that is improving incrementally. Example we now have multiple evs available not just tesla model's. Which can do over .3g of braking regen only which means it's good enough for over 90% of daily brake events. Supposedly some have gotten over 150k without doing anything but changing the brake fluid itself. Another interesting thing about regen braking is some cars are seeing 20-30% of total energy use come from the regen itself. Imo that is pretty cool. Considering how efficient an ev already is over a similar ice competitor. Tire wear often due to aggressive ev acceleration rates and yes 5-10% higher average vehicle weights. Means increased tire wear when driven aggressively. However from what I've found researching and asking owners is by rotating tires every 5k to 7k max and keeping the pressures at the spec psi. Owners of many different evs claim the wear is similar to any other heavy high power vehicle. With the lower slower stuff like bolts and leafs. Doing very well as far as tire wear rates go. As usual ymmv though. 🤔

@jamesseay9943

2 жыл бұрын

Its amazing the engineers can now give us 5000 lbs vehicles that go 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. All EV cars are heavy. Regen motor braking saves on the brakes. Regarding maintenance, my MM-E's first scheduled maintenance is at 10,000 miles. Want to know what that entails? Rotate the tires.

@4literv6

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesseay9943 good stuff, as a former certified tire installer and even a so called expert on Michelin Goodyear Cooper and toyo tires. 😁 I'd recomend not waiting until 10k to rotate them. Over on mach e forums they are doing it in the 5-7k range and from the claimed tread depths noted at each rotation? So far 7k seems to be pushing it. Again just an observation from experience first hand with heavy powerful vehicle's and what other's who own a mach e have shared in the forums. 👍🏻