Wow. That fits way better than expected

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got 40k miles plus on this swap and couldn’t be happier. Well worth it!! Thanks for the comment!

Awesome video I’m looking to do the same to my 94.5 f350 . With 4.10 gears running 2500 rpms at 65 mph pulling a boat is no fun trust me lol. Keep up the good videos !

@GillansGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! I need to add a second video, I forgot to talk about the transmission cooler lines.

@codybell8103

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering about that did you just use the super duty lines ?

@GillansGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the ends at the radiator have to be cut and soft lines run to connect to the OBS radiator. I installed a Mishimoto aftermarket radiator to get the transmission cooler in the radiator.

@codybell8103

4 жыл бұрын

Nice thanks for the info! Just curious what are you running rpms wise at 70mph? Just trying to see if it’s worth doing the swap or just adding a little bigger tires to help drop the rpms

@GillansGarage

4 жыл бұрын

In all honesty, I’m running 3.73’s with 235/85/16’s. So that 2000rpm’s at 70mph.

Enjoyed the video, that’s a very pretty truck would be interested in a walk around

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! I’ll have to get a video together on it!!!

I had a 1994 F250HD with the 300-6 and HD ZF 5 speed manual transmission. Yes the gearing could have used 1 more gear but I sure loved driving that truck. I regretfully sold it about 6 years ago after the clutch slave cylinder failed while I was battling Lyme disease.

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

That’s unfortunate, I hope all is well now!!

@MustangsTrainsMowers

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been up and down a lot in 5 years as it’s chronic Lyme disease but I’m better than I was in the middle of the 2017. More research is being done on Lyme disease now.

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@MustangsTrainsMowers I’m always amazing at how far we’ve come in the medical field. Hopefully they find more effective treatment soon. Best of luck!!

Hey I got a question I’m doing a manual swap from an automatic To a zf6 and I need to figure out what I need to do for a wiring harness for the zf6 so I can get my engine to start and to get Cruise control to work

Good Sir! My 97 f350 transmission went out today hauling a load of livestock up a hill! 😅 Tow truck driver is a friend and has a zf6 for me. I’m wanting to do a 4x4 solid axle swap too. Looks like you’ve already done it. Would you be willing to answer a few questions for me?

@GillansGarage

6 ай бұрын

Email me at jjgillan82@gmail.com

Very helpful thanks 👍

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!! Did you see the part 2 video? It covers a couple more things I missed in this video.

How did you locate the height for the drivers side of the crossmember you used? I am in the middle of the swap I am going to run the crossmember out of the super duty. Passenger side is easy as it sits on the frame, the drivers side seems there is some room for error on the placement of the holes.. Thanks!

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I made sure my truck frame was level then I leveled the crossmember where the transmission bolts to the crossmember. There’s that flat spot for the transmission mount to lay a level on.

@PROBLEMS-ue1xi

3 жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage Awesome, how much did you have to clearance the transmission tunnel? I am close to the height I need to be at with the super duty crossmember installed but I am seeing where I will need to dent the tunnel just behind where the manual transmission "hump" or "plate" mounts and possibly where the shifter boot mounts.. For me to get the crossmember level I will have to clearance those areas to push the crossmember up level.

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I tweaked the floor at the rear of the hump opening and butyl sealed the cover and didn’t install the center screw at the rear of cover. I had the transmission bolted fast and used it to pry against to give the needed clearance without going too far. I hope that makes some sort of sense. Haha.

I'm tryin to see which mounting holes you used in the cross member., forward or rearward? I think im going to need some body mounts, my zf6 seems to be touching the floor. 😅

@GillansGarage

11 ай бұрын

Man I wish I could post a picture. I may have drilled to new holes on the front half of the mount. As far as the transmission touching my did ever so slightly at the back of the inspection cover but minor minor tweaking got me plenty of clearance, but I did not install the center screw in the middle of the back of the inspection cover.

nice build looks close to my brothers build his is a 94 it was the biggest pos when he got now 6 years later truck is tits he hasnt swapped the later superduty 3.73s those 4.10s always looking for that next gear yet but does already have the axles just no time since he started a family since 4x4 and powerstroke conversion think his is a 5 speed though, but anyways hes been contemplating about going to .84 a/r on turbo i guess its common and he claims how great it is, i told him to put his money elsewhere , will he really see big gains and how is the spool between shifts on the manual trans those 7.3s are awesome but ive seen guys dump thousands and only gain a couple knots even with with a strong tailwind

The reason I have a 5 speed my 1974 f350 car hauler getting cummins have 12 value clipping 1998 2500 dodge to hauler

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

That’ll be awesome!! Stick shift for life!!

Good video I have an s6-650 I want to put into my 96 powerstroke yo replace the 4r100 just curious I have the s6 transfer case with electric shift my guess is thats not going to work and if not what transfer case are you using?

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!! If it’s different it shouldn’t be hard to find a NP273 electric shift.

I finished my swap a few months back and am tring to get my 4x4 and low indicator lights to work. I can get each light to work by grounding them out with 1 of the 2 wires respectively. The problem im having is the switch in the np271 seems to be a 2 wire open/closed switch. Did you get yours to work correctly? Am i missing something? Also would like to add that with the zf6 you now get to go from a 12" clutch to a 13" clutch therefor you can handle more torque. Thanks

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I did get mine working fine. I check out what switch I have and get back to you. I think I used a switch from BW1356 but I’m not sure.

Is the zf6 the strongest trans with the most gears that can be fitted behind the 7.3 obs body style? If so is there a specific year truck with zf6 that would be best to look for or are they all the same?

@GillansGarage

8 ай бұрын

Yes, the ZF6 is the strongest factory 7.3 transmission available with a factory rating of 650ftlbs of torque versus a Powerstroke ZF5 being rated at 475ftlbs of torque. You can use any ZF6 from a 1999-2003 7.3 truck.

Hey, I’m going to swap my zf5 on my 95 to zf6. I have a couple questions if anyone could answer I’d appreciate it. Does the crossmember have to be e99 zf6 or do all NBS crossmembers work?(the trans I’m putting in is a 2003)Is it the same clutch from zf5? (I have solid flywheel conversion kit) How much lower were your RPMs on the highway? A lot of people that haven’t done this have told me it’s not worth the swap and that I’ll have to smash the cab with a hammer to get it to fit. I already have the trans tho so really no turning back. Also my zf5 is garbage anyway due to previous owner not installing pilot bearing when doing the solid flywheel conversion.

@GillansGarage

2 ай бұрын

I would assume any 7.3 ZF6 crossmember will work with the small modification I mentioned. I used the ZF6 clutch which if I recall correctly it’s bigger than the ZF5 clutch. Based on the math it will lower your top end rpm’s by about 120 rpm’s but that’s only half the story. The better low gear and the shift pattern with low and reverse across from each other is a big benefit for me especially whenever pulling a load and maneuvering it. The only minor tweak I had to make was at the back of the opening in floor and leave one screw out in the center of that cover. Very minor considering the benefits for me. I’ve got about 40k miles on my swap and I have zero regrets.

@helamanarrigo1249

Күн бұрын

@@GillansGaragewhat master cylinder did you use? I heard the zf6 slave is a different bore than zf5 master cylinder so it makes the clutch release high if you use the stock obs master. Did you have any problems like that or were you able to put a zf6 master in?

@GillansGarage

Күн бұрын

@@helamanarrigo1249 I used the ZF5 master cylinder and have zero issues in over 40k miles.

Hey man I was wondering if you knew how many years have the pre punched holes for the 4x4 I’m buying a 95 F-350 with a 5 speed and I wanna do the zf6 swap when I do the 4x4. Any advice I’d appreciate

@austinanderson2906

3 жыл бұрын

To my knowledge all the obs cabs will have the hole punched in the floor. The only thing ford did with the 2 wheel drive trucks was install a cover plate. That's how it was on my 96 and 97 at least.

What did you do with the speedometer cable? I’m wanting to install a 12v Cummins with a ZF6 into a 1987 model 1 ton

@GillansGarage

Ай бұрын

Being that this is 1997 it has the speed sensor in the rear axle it was a non-issue. For your swap it’s more complicated. Might I suggest a GPS speedometer. I’m sorry I’m not more helpful. Ever since we ZF5 swapped the ‘87 Econoline 6.9 turbo diesel we just use an old Garmin GPS for a speedometer. Haha.

@LimaTangoZulu

Ай бұрын

@@GillansGarage do you know if the old school t-case will bolt to a ZF6? The speedometer cable goes to the tail housing of the t-case on 4x4 trucks. That might make it work.

@GillansGarage

Ай бұрын

@Alien.Dog_ Not without modifying the input shaft on the old T-case. The shaft diameter and spine count are different.

did the transmission tunnel need any modification?

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing major, the center screw in the back of the cover I left out and minor tweaking to the tunnel. I installed a nice butyl seal when I put it back together.

Great video! I have a ZF6 for my 96 that I’m installing next week since my Eo4D exploded. What’s the mishimoto part number for the trans cooler?

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I used the Mishimoto automatic transmission radiator and then just hooked directly into the radiator. If you find the part two video, I discussed that in that video. Thanks for the comment. I hope my reply helped.

@robertcarter4291

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice! I’ll watch pt 2 now!

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

Surething!! Glad to help!!

is the pedal super hard? I just test drove a 94 f350 and the clutch was super hard. i had to press the pedal down to the floorboard and then some! is a single mass clutch softer?

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

rob cm My clutch is actually pretty soft. It’s a slightly strong factory clutch with a solid flywheel. Clutch engagement is a little high up the pedal but has been working great for 20k plus miles.

@vatorob702

3 жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage thanks for the reply, im goin to bid for this truck and maybe a new clutch an master and slave cylinder will make it soft. they have not sold it because i bet the clutch scares people away.

@ReindeerBork

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you bought the truck or not but these trucks have issues with the pedal box bushings wearing out as well as the master cylinder eye wearing out. New bushings and doing the Heim mod is more often the issue than air in the system

What length did you have to cut the front shaft down to?

@GillansGarage

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately I don’t recall the exact dimension. Because I was going from a 2wd ZF5 to a 4x4 ZF6 with NP271, there were so many changes it was hard to keep track.

Nice job question were did u get the windows trim thank you

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure they came on the truck when I bought it.

I'm pretty confident in my future swap in my 2000 f350. Will the transfer case from the 4speed bolt up to the zf5 or zf6? The transfer case is also electric shifter dash mounted selecter

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

So it’s a BW1356?

@cndsoda

Жыл бұрын

273f

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry, I believe I’m confused. The 273F came out of the 2000 F350 right? The 4 speed should have either BW 1345 or maybe a BW1356.

@cndsoda

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage yes 2000 f350. It should be E4OD auto and I know 'because of the round NP badge, that the TC is 273f

@cndsoda

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage actually I think it's the trans is 4r100

Did you have to change the pcm also ?

@GillansGarage

7 ай бұрын

No, as my truck was a manual transmission before the swap.

Do you have a parts list of what you have done? I want to do this swap but I’ve got an E4OD 4x4

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t, you’re swap will more involved, as I’m sure you know already, going from automatic to manual. Mine was manual already. I’m guessing there’s a fair amount of content there on KZread that should with the auto to manual conversion then my video can help with. The finer points of the ZF6. Best of luck with your swap!!!

Hey man what’s the length of your short driveline now? I just did the swap and I’ve got a crew cab long bed aswell. I’m hoping to take the driveline in tmr so if you’ve got measurement that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I’ll measure that tomorrow and get back to you.

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

30” center to center of the first two u-joints.

@jacenewman9668

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage awesome thank you man

Were did you get the transmission from sir.please send reply.also how is it holding up

@GillansGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I parted out a 1999 F350 with 7.3 Powerstroke to get the transmission. The transmission had a fresh rebuild on it. I’d say I’ve got around 20k on the swap and it’s holding up well!!! Thanks for the comment!!!

Did you have any problems with pinion or driveshaft angles??

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

No, before I started I checked the angle of the engine and transmission with the stock ZF5 and made sure that when I installed the ZF6 and it crossmember I made sure it was the same angle which it was without having to modify the main crossmember. Also being a Crew Cab Long Bed it has a carrier bearing for the driveshaft which I didn’t change that position at all so the final angle into the pinion shouldn’t not have changed doing this swap.

Did you have to change anything about the flywheel?

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

No. I removed the ZF5 transmission spacer and installed the ZF6 1/8” spacer with the ZF6 clutch assembly. 40k+ miles on the swap and I love it!!

hello sir are you getting better MPG?

Hi I have a 1986 f250 4x4 diesel super cab. I have the 6.9idi and a spare one with 7.3idi. Would the zf6 fit behind the idi diesel?

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

As far as bolt pattern I don’t see why not. The only thing that I would question is the flywheel. I’m pretty sure the flywheels are different on 6.9. I think they are balanced differently.

@jackdaicole7595

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage thank you I got alot of more researching to do

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

Good Luck!!

@jackdaicole7595

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage thank you what years the zf6 came in are there better years to look for must be 4x4 as my truck is lol can I use my manual transfer case? I am a mechanical type guy hate electronics lol

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

1999 to early 2003. All 7.3 ZF6’s were rated the same and should handle anything an IDI can throw at it. I would just use a NP271 manual shift TC that comes behind a ZF6 it’ll be stronger then the TC you have now.

What did you do about the speedometer

@GillansGarage

6 ай бұрын

The speedometer pick up is in the rear axle so it was not affected by transmission swap.

What clutch are you running a zf5 or zf6 superduty clutch?

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I’m running the ZF6 clutch.

I am doing a zf6 swap on my 97 7.3L from a auto was the super duty ujoints the same as the f350 what did you do for the drive shaft at the rear end

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I used the front portion of the rear driveshaft from the 1999 F350 donor truck. The driveshaft shop used the front flange that matched the NP271 TC with my factory OBS driveshaft to shortening it and add the front flange.

@joepatenaude3957

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage ah I will have to use the f450 rear drive shaft since my truck was a e4od before

@joepatenaude3957

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage I didn't know until yesterday how much bigger the input shaft is on a zf6 I was hoping I could use my old transfer case and drive shafts but there is a huge difference from superduty to obs Ford

@joepatenaude3957

Жыл бұрын

I just went and pulled the rear driveshaft out of a F-450 with the center bearing looks like it's the right length just have to figure out the rear U-joint to my OBS differential

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@joepatenaude3957 On my truck the 4x4 shifter came up right in the correct location with the ZF6 and the NP271

this swap for diesels only?

@GillansGarage

4 ай бұрын

Yes, I don’t think this will work with a 460 without an adapter of some kind.

So what RPM range are you running at highway speeds what MPH range and tire size

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I have 3.73’s with 235/85R16 tires. With the .72 overdrive in the ZF6 that gives me 70mph at 2000rpm. Honestly for towing, when I convert to 4x4 I’m hoping back to 4.10’s and run a larger tire to try to get me into somewhere around the 3.90’s. 3.73’s with the bigger tire is a bit too deep in overdrive for pulling my camper in my opinion.

@flipcab1196

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage thanks for the response I just dint find any videos of you recording on the highway with the gauges visible to answer my own questions with or without load other than that your videos are very informative looking to modify my 96 eventually also 4 door dually has 410s just not very much info on the 4x4 and zf6 swap out there curious if the np205 is also able to fit on the zf6 like on the zf5 with not much modification

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

I used the NP271 that came on the ZF6 and used the Super Duty driveshaft and had it mated to the original OBS driveshaft. The 4x4 shifter came up in the exact right location.

What did you gain from 5 speed to a 6 speed thks yes

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

Better low gear and a deeper overdrive. This was also the first step in converting the truck to 4x4. I also really like having low gear and reverse straight across from one another in the shift pattern.

@PeterHatch-mx7zc

Жыл бұрын

@@GillansGarage thks have a zf 5 that or a 47re for my f350 have the 12 value

@GillansGarage

Жыл бұрын

The choice is yours, but it’s stick shift life for me all the way!!

What oil cooler do you use

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I’m using a Mishimoto aluminum radiator that has an internal transmisssion cooler which can be used for both automatic and ZF6 transmission.

Cost

@GillansGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I bought the parts truck I got this transmission out of for $3000. The transmission was literally just rebuilt and never driven. I parted the rest of the truck of the truck out and recouped at least 75% of money back. The clutch was new as well help helped cut costs. So I had the cost of the driveshaft modification which was like $140 and my labor time(which I don’t count). So I would say it cost me somewhere around $1000.

@PeterHatch-mx7zc

Жыл бұрын

Thks

Hey I got a question I’m doing a manual swap from an automatic To a zf6 and I need to figure out what I need to do for a wiring harness for the zf6 so I can get my engine to start and to get Cruise control to work

@GillansGarage

5 ай бұрын

Email me at jjgillan82@gmail.com

@user-ti8iu8fb1j

5 ай бұрын

@@GillansGarage I emailed you