I’d like to see the difference between the stopping distances and how each truck handled an emergency stop.

@mikes5918

11 ай бұрын

and slapping their travel trailer on each and getting impressions in the wind, hills, etc...

@davidmarquez3010

11 ай бұрын

Si

@Rosso488

11 ай бұрын

That’s a great idea. I don’t know of anyone doing that.

@jnk26

11 ай бұрын

As long as the trailer brakes work properly. The only difference would be the weight of the trucks. The F250 weights almost 1600lbs more. The larger brakes on the truck will make a difference when everything works properly. You will notice a major difference when it comes to a trailer brake failure on the half ton

@nicholaspowell9813

11 ай бұрын

You talked about the size difference of the bricks, but no discussion of how big the brakes actually are on them. Comparing the size of the brakes to what the brakes were 10 to 20 years ago. Would also be great in seeing how tow ratings have changed over the years.

I was looking for this exact review, and you guys nailed it! Great job!

I seldomly tow, so the creature comforts of the F150 are the better option for me. Love my Powerboost.

@fx4fxnytro

11 ай бұрын

Same here.

@answersforlooking9430

2 ай бұрын

powerboost is an awesome idea for a truck..... id love to get one

Exactly what I was waiting for!! Right on Steve!! Good morning!!!

I went from owning an F250 to a Maverick. Didn’t need the capability anymore. The Mav is so much fun to drive, I love it, especially on road trips.

Steve and Howard, excellent review as usual. Nobody touches these subjects on other channels. You guys really make buyers and users of pickup trucks question what they need, and why. I'm curious to see what the fuel economy differences would be between different axle ratios to let buyers know What differences are apparent to further educate what kind of capability their pickup needs, and what's worth it financially for them. Excellent work guys. Keep the great content coming.

Fantastic video. I have been debating a 3/4 ton due to the prices being nearly identical to the 1/2 ton these days. Keep up the great work, this was very helpful!

Great comparison, got a 1500 and a 2500 GMC and I've compared them on my own but it's nice to hear about another brand.

Definitely appreciate the comparison with a fair weight between the half and 3/4 trucks. I do like how you guys pointed out the chain hook up differences. Just traded my Ram 1500 ecodiesel (loved no issues, just a milage thing), for a 24 Sierra dmax. I prefer the GMC chain hook-up vs the half ton Ram.

GREAT video! Every day consumers will appreciate this comparison and breakdown!

Unless you're trying to save a little bit of money, there's really no reason to buy a 150 over a 250. The difference in ride quality is quite minimal while the difference in capability is significant. Towing or hauling in a 250 vs 150 is a night and day difference in terms of control- power, braking, and stability.

@na4valve

11 ай бұрын

Well 5+ MPG would be a good reason. Better acceleration another. Also nicer ride and easier to maneuver would be the another 2. Also way cheaper than a 6.7 truck to maintain and cheaper fuel. If you tow sub 10k occasionally there is no real reason to buy a 250 over a 150 IMO. Now I will say If you are consistently towing 5k plus across the country or you daily heavy loads for work I would want a 6.7 truck.

@sly9263

11 ай бұрын

​@@na4valve 5 mpg would be a good reason, if that was reality (it isn't). I got 15-16 mpg in both of my F150 ecoboosts over 6 years. I get 12-13 mpg in my 7.3 godzilla. When I towed in my F150 I was at 8-9mpg. When I tow in my F250 I get 10-11mpg. If you were considering an F150 in the first place then you don't need diesel and would be better off getting an F250 gasser. The ride quality difference is nonsense- it's barely noticeable- you're going from leafspring to leafspring, not rear coils or any serious comfort difference like you would only get in a Ram anyway. 5k is nothing for towing tbh and a 6.7 is only noticeable or relevant for upwards 15-20k. I pull a 3 horse gooseneck with tack at 10k pounds and genuinely can't even feel it's there with the F250 7.3 gasser

@na4valve

11 ай бұрын

@@sly9263 it’s most definitely 5mpg if not more. My current 10spd 5.0 gets 19-20MPG avg with mixed driving. Obviously you were staying in the turbos with that 3.5. My 6.4 8spd 2500 ram got 13-14 with mixed driving. Basically the same you are seeing from the 7.3. Not really referring to towing MPG as I could care less since I spend 99% of my time without a trailer connected. For those that spend a lot of time with a trailer attached would probably benefit from the 2500. Also not a real big fan of the 7.3 kind of dumb for Ford to go backwards in tech. Would have loved to seen a 6.2 DOHC gasser for the f250s. The one thing I will agree on is the ride quality, however it is still noticeable.

@sly9263

11 ай бұрын

@@na4valve your 5.0 is getting 19-20 mostly highway, not city, so stop exaggerating like everyone and their mom who flubs their mpg claims... such an odd behavior

@na4valve

11 ай бұрын

@@sly9263 it gets 22-23 at 70. It gets upper 20s at 55. So no that’s not mostly Highway and interstate speed MPG.

Thanks for explaining the gear ratios. 👍🏽

This was about as close to a comparison of trucks that I have been looking for, I would like to see a towing comparison between the 3.5 EcoBoost F150 and the 7.3L Godzilla F250

@damondavis842

11 ай бұрын

Ecoboost has a lot of torque and lighter. Powerboost has crazy numbers

@dtburrows

6 ай бұрын

Someone with a Ecoboost, you're gas mileage with the Ecoboost when towing will go into the toilet. Between 5.5 and 7 mpg with a heavy trailer. If you're going to tow heavy trailers, you need a V8@@damondavis842

Great video gents! I have a '21 F150 and am considering an F250 with the 7.3L when I'm ready to make a move.

I went from a 150 to a 350 just because of the truck shortage and I am so glad I did. The F350 is a real truck and so happy with it. Same width but definitely taller and longer. I would push the payload capacity all the time on the 150 1700lbs now I have 3500lbs. I do like the steering of the 150 but considering the size the 350 it is fine. Awesome on long trips. For the price difference I would get another 350 btw only about 1000.00 difference between 250 and 350

I switched from and F150 to an F250 several years ago. I really wish that I’d made the transition years ago. Even in the 5-7,000 lb range there’s really no comparison. All the components(axles, brakes, suspension) are just so much more substantial on the 250. Even when I’ve a 12,000 lb load you feel so much in control.

@JJ-mh3hb

11 ай бұрын

Frame is the biggest difference imo

@alb12345672

11 ай бұрын

@@JJ-mh3hb I have an 11 F150, has 6.2L maxtow. 3.73. Says 11.1K on the hitch, hard to believe.

@bdcfu

11 ай бұрын

I just got the 250 with the 7.3l. I had a 150 with the ecoboost. I loved the ecoboost and the snappiness of the motor but the 250 is a more capable truck. I have a 28’ travel trailer and the 250 handles it much better. The ecoboost handles the trailer but you can tell it was working more.

@richarde1355

8 ай бұрын

@@bdcfufor a person who uses the truck as their every day vehicle, and tows 5000 pounds maybe 2-4 weeks per year, would you recommend a 150 or 250? Thanks!

@miguelrobb5719

8 ай бұрын

@@richarde1355get the 250. Trust me. It’s better to overtruck than it is to undertruck. You NEVER know when you are in a moment where you wished you got the 250 in the first place. I was telling my wife to go with a 350, but she was dead set on a 150. Well needless to say we ended up holding our heads down in Shame as we were returning our 150. You want at least a 250 my man!!

Love the video. Great job

very informative video thank you for the information very pleasing

100% spot on great review. Surprised to see the f150 mileage.

Good video . Just bought an F350 XL crew STX 23 . Love the truck. Payload is 4550 ; towing 13900. 6.8 with 3.73 gears.

I appreciate your information. We just bought 2023 F-250 Lariat planning on pulling RV trailer. Always have had Tundra or F-150. We wanted to future proof the truck for most RV size weight etc. Thanks. And its the 7.3.

Ive been needing a video like this

Love the comparison. Would like to see the same for GMC, between the gas 6.2 1500 and gas 6.6 2500.

@skidooboondocker

11 ай бұрын

100% agree I think a lot of folks would love to see this, particularly the 3.0 vs the 6.6 gas.

Great test. Have a 12 F-150 5.0 that I tow a TT with. It is rated at 7800 lbs towing and 1870 payload with the scab and more basic features. Great truck and I make it work hard. When time to replace I do toy with the F-250 for even better towing and payload plus the F-250 I have read on average is one of the longest lasting vehicles.

Great video TK! At the same price point, if your truck is more than a latter-day minivan, there's no compelling reason to buy the half-ton truck. An informative and entertaining look at the modern truck buyer's dilemma from the best tag team on automotive KZread. Cheers!

@TruckKing

11 ай бұрын

Well said! AND THANK YOU complete stranger…

Really good and useful review. You guys are focusing on what counts. It’s the F250 for me

Thank you for this video! Just what I'm looking for. I have a ram 1500 5.7 with a 6 speed and a 3:55 rear end. Pulled my pop up camper like it wasn't there, but wife wanted a bathroom so now I have a 26 ft Rockwood - dry weight 5600 lbs. After loaded, with four of us - I'm guessing it's around 7,000 lbs (rated to pull 8500 lbs). The truck does it, but like your Dad said, mine feels floaty too. I even have the Timbren suspension support. I'm not getting a 3/4 ram gas with the needle bearing buggered - cam eating 6.4 so when the time comes - F250 is it. Thank you again!

Your dad always spitting facts and blunt as always great video

Good video! For me, the right mix at this point in my life is a special order F150 XLcrew with 6.5 bed and the Heavy Duty Payload Package. It has much better mpgs for weekly commute and in the HDPP I get a respectable 25O0 LB payload rating and lower cost 18 inch tires, heavier frame and axle casting and bearings than any other half ton and a 36 gallon fuel tank and 3.73s. This gives me the ability to put in a slide in pop up and my gear, etc. And be under payload. Later, if God allows it, if I am retired, I will move to a 3500 or 350 platform and use an electric bike to run to the store. None of the auto editors EVER compare HDPP F150s as they are hard to obtain. You owe it to the community to find one and review it.

@Chris-ut6eq

8 ай бұрын

They never even mentioned if the F150 had Max Tow package. This was a weak review. Get an F150 with Max Tow and tow 12k+ and then talk smack about how the F250 is so much better. This is propaganda with Ford pushing super-duty, so not a good compare. The F150 needed at least max tow, and HDPP would put the 5/8 F-150 vs the 3/4 F-250. Disappointing review. That said, ford dropped HDPP in 2024 F150, and the rumored F-200 may come in 2025 or never....

@bwspacity

Ай бұрын

If it come In a 4wd crew cab I would have bought but UT only comes in long bed 2wd

Nice test, you normally do a 0-60 with the trailer load, was this done and just not put in? Would really be interesting to see the difference in ability to get up to hwy speed.

Should have done a brake test comparison. Which truck does a better job if you have to hit the the brakes when towing.

Good breakdown, do more of these with Ram and GM. Include acceleration numbers with a trailer for reference as well. Good work TK 👍

@TruckKing

11 ай бұрын

Noted!

Hey there, have you ever reviewed the 2.7? Great review as always!

Another great resource.. 3/4 any trucks work & play type.

Great video. I've been looking at both vehicles and can see that the 250 is the way to go for safety.

Great video TK! I'd really like to see a LZ0 Duramax review if you can get one!

Love this comparison. Let's see an 3.0Duramax vs 6.6L gas GM 2500.

@rich7447

11 ай бұрын

The 3L Duramax isn't offered in a 2500.

Just came across this video, thx, nice job. I just got my 2023 eco boost and looking, it seems that the plate mounting the remote control port is upside down. The remote control connector port should be on the upper left corner.

What's great is that people have the ability to choose what they are comfortable with, either perceived or actual. I personally like the safety factor with a truck that gives a body more confidence to do a job, whatever it is.

I've considered moving up to a 3/4 ton even with the same 5.7 hemi just for better towing. Heavier transmission rear end brakes and suspension. My travel trailer isn't that heavy but we're considering bigger and it would handle it better

Love me a new Truck King video!

Nice video. I think the biggest thing to consider is what type of trailer you plan to tow when deciding between what type of truck to get. If you’re towing exclusively an open trailer or something similar (low profile boat, etc) the half ton trucks will be fine. They will be more comfortable to drive everyday and get better fuel economy. However if you are towing an enclosed style trailer (camper, enclosed car trailer, horse trailer, high profile large boat) you need to just get an HD regardless of the weight of the trailer. And if it’s long, a dually should be considered. As for the rear end ratios, they do make a difference with tow ratings typically but the new 10 speed transmissions that most trucks have now really make the super short ratios (4.x+) really unnecessary for most situations. It’s really hard to get people to understand this but unless you’re exclusively staying in 1st and 2nd gear the 4.10 or 4.30 rear is not necessary and I would argue a detriment to daily driving and highway speed towing. That’s the purpose of the 10 speed transmissions to be able to downshift one extra gear and give you a similar or in some cases shorter final drive ratio than the 4+ rear ends.

My F150 XLT 302a high trim with 6.5 bed has a payload of 1,796lbs. 3.5 EcoBoost. I don't have a sun roof or FX4 package, but I didn't want them. If you look at the same trim levels the F150 is quite a bit cheaper. And when I was looking there no discounts on the F250, but I got my F150 for $11,250 below sticker. So always compare the out the door price when shopping for a vehicle.

In the past they made trucks that they called the heavy half or a camper special or had a trailer tow package that actually changed the build of the truck from standard at the factory. They should go back to that as an upgrade or have it as an option. We are moving back toward that any way with economies and fuel mileage standards. I used to tow with suburbans all over the US for years. I had the tow package versions that were great! We towed large heavy horse trailers and campers as well as enclosed trailers. Those vehicles were basically beefed up 1/2 tons. They rode like a 1/2 ton when not towing but could handle it when you needed to load them up heavy. They had big v8s, larger or more cores in the radiator and external transmission and oil coolers. They had overload springs and bigger brakes. They were basically or almost 3/4 ton trucks. They just did not put the bigger axles under them but did not need them. They rode way better when empty and got a little better gas mileage when empty. I got pulled over by a State patrol one time and he was going to ticket me or keep me there and scale me because he thought I was overloaded. I was hauling an old tractor back from an auction. I had to show him the vehicle sticker and prove that I was still okay and legal. I was also using an equalizer hitch and had a brake controller. I was legal and fine with the load. When modern trucks started to become cars, my old Suburban had a higher payload and towing capacity than 3/4 ton trucks did.

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

Some modern OEMs still do the "heavy half" approach. Ford has the heavy duty payload package and max tow package which some accounts say has a thicker frame, 9.75" rear axle, additional leaf in the rear etc. Not as easily identifiable as the older 7 lug 150s but if you look close you can spot some key differences. The 2500 Suburbans were always a cool option, same with Excursions.

Good video. Getting Payload ratings on both trucks would be nice. It’s not all about the trailer weight and towing capacity.

Here I was excited thinking I was going to get an unloaded highway loop mpg comparison between these two and no. Just a little towing.

Interesting comparison. Never considered this... 😊

I have 2014 Mustang agT and changed gear ratio to 4.10 from 3.31. It is now a wild ride lol

Perfect comparison video

Hey TK!, Thanks for another informative video. Here's my question, I noticed that both trucks had the FX4 package, which we all know is Ford's standard off road package, so what is the difference between the FX4 and the Max Tow Package, as far as towing numbers and the ride are concerned? I see a lot of trucks that are usually used for towing that have an off road package, it seems counterintuitive. ,🤔

As a rancher, I can tell you that a 1/2 ton truck can do anything that a 3/4 ton can do until it comes to towing. As you stated, manufacturers always inflate the towing numbers. You have to subtract the GCVR from the towing number, which will always be less than stated. I stopped using 1/2 tons because of the weaker suspension. Hauling 90% of towing capacity on a 1/2 truck will always cause the rear suspension to sag. 90% of towing capacity on a 3/4 will cause some rear sag as well, but only an inch or two, as opposed to 3 to 4 inches or more on on the 1/2 ton. That’s dangerous when towing.

I am currently in an 08 f150 with the 4.6. I bought the truck in my single days and never planned to tow anything other than a boat. I never bought a boat and now years later the wife and I go camping a couple weekends every month. Camper is around 3500-4000 and the truck lacks power but get us there. I’m in the market now and after talking to many campers at the park, they mainly say go 3/4 ton and skip the 1/2 ton. After pricing the trucks it’s almost the same price, so we made the decision to go f250. Mainly for the payload. Camping with a 7000k lb camper and gear, your payload is gone quick in the f150. We plan on upgrading trailers soon, so with the trucks being equal in price, it’s a no brainer. Only downfall is finding an f250 on the lots, they are scarce.

Pro power on board is on the passenger side of the super duties because the 5th wheel gooseneck hook ups go on the driver's side

I think you hit it spot on. I don't tow very often at all and when I do it isn't a huge number. I would opt for the 150. I do wish you would have done a mileage loop empty to show what these get when not towing.

@Chris-ut6eq

11 ай бұрын

Yes, mileage as a daily driver. I picked 150 for just this reason, but still would like to know the 250 mileage unladen.

@wildbill23c

11 ай бұрын

@@Chris-ut6eq The F250 unloaded will probably get around 12-14mpg running around town. Figure about 15-16mpg on the highway. Funny because my 30+ year old F250 with only 3 gears gets the same fuel economy as today's trucks with 7 more gears...they haven't exactly gained anything in over 30 years...course if you are buying an HD truck the last thing you should be concerned about is fuel economy.

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

@@wildbill23c mpg may not have changed much, but capability, features and general NVH aspects have improved considerably.

@ryanintegra3165

11 ай бұрын

I own the exact 23 f-150 heritage. Averages 23mpg on highway (2.7L eco). My wife’s 23 expedition max averages 19 mpg on hwy. my 18 f-350 diesel averages 16 mpg on hwy. all empty of course. Hope this helps. We have a 6.8L f-350 on order. I’ll be curious to see how that does.

@ryanintegra3165

11 ай бұрын

Also, the f-150 is a pleasure to drive over the diesel. I’d argue the f-150 is a better ride than my wife’s expedition. It’s the perfect all around vehicle with modest tow needs.

Excellent video. As you stated it all comes down to what you need. For me it is the F-250.

Great comparison, thank you!

Great video. Will love to see similar video towing a heavier load, north of 10k+ lbs. The truth is if you are towing 7k lbs you have no business looking at an F-250.

Another thing to remember is towing trailers with high side walls the wind won't effect the larger heavier truck as much.

YES please talk more about rear end axle ratio and gas mileage , if you want the high tow # it's going to cost more at the gas pump ,

Man, that 5.0 is a sweet engine. Not too much you can complain about with that video.

I went with a 2500 over half ton for my 11k travel trailer. they advertise it as an HT travel trailer but what what they don’t share is that the weight at the tongue on this rv is about 1500lbs. that’s over most half tons by itself not to mention the bed full of gear and my family of 5. weighing in at cat scales we were 750lbs of weight with a full tank of gas and the 5 of us without gear.. in full camping trim the camper and truck are 18k on the nose…really glad i’m not tugging this around with a halfton

Remember when the US and CAN prices were a lot closer? Wages in Canada can’t keep up with inflation and most full size trucks are priced like high end luxury cars. The sticker on my early ‘22 TrailBoss LT has risen about 8k in a short time.

My 2014 Tundra has a 4.30 rear end and with tow/haul engaged it’s a tow beast. Just sucks that the payload is so crappy. Plus it drinks the fuel hard.

@abuck2844

11 ай бұрын

low single digits uphill with trailer in tow.

@casey10614

4 ай бұрын

yeah but buy a new truck is 80k. How much gas can you buy for 80k, our Tundras have a 38 gallon tank, I'm always smiling at the gas station when I'm filling up!

I got the 150 to tow my 10000 GVWR 33 foot Airstream. It's the Ecoboost with Max Tow so it has 14000 tow capacity and 19,500 GCVWR. I don't feel any issues with braking. The suspension is a bit too floaty. I plan on installing Timbren SES to see if that addresses the floating. This is also my daily driver so I didn't want a 250 for that. I find the 150 to be a great daily driver for me with occasional towing of my Airstream.

I currently have a '21 F150 Powerboost and absolutely love the 5.5 second 0-60 and the Blue Cruise. I keep wondering how the F-250 Powerstroke compares in acceleration.

A 7500# travel trailer (large wind sail) would of really helped make the point that the HD is the smarter option. It's a night & day difference at highway speeds. HD all day long. The GM Heavy Duty trucks independent front suspension really closes the ride quality gap vs a 1/2 ton truck.

Should compare the longer 6'7" bed F150 for the ultimate comparison, length would be within a few inches.

F150 for me. I do not tow. The truck is my daily driver for work and hunting. Love my Lariat powerboost. Great review guys!

These are the kind of videos I love! Working trucks and feature trade-off discussions. This was a solid discussion of these two vehicles. Things I would have liked (or maybe I missed), did the F-150 have max tow package? What was the rear axle ratio on both trucks as tested? Also of note, the longer frame F-250 would tow smoother, so would have liked it if you mentioned F-150 was ~145inch wheelbase vs the F-250s ?160ish? Ford is the only manufacturer to offer a beefed up 1/2 ton with Heavy Duty Payload Package (HDPP). It's rear axle, frame and brakes have upgrades so it's like a 2/3 ton. My '22 F-150, V-8, FX4 has a payload rating of ~2800lbs and max tow of 13,000 (141"WB). It's more than a 1/2 ton but not a 3/4 ton. Would be great to see Dad drive this truck and discuss it in relation to 1/2 & 3/4 ton F-Series. Bug Ford Canada to get you one to test!

@Chris-ut6eq

8 ай бұрын

Howard mentioned that only gearing is changed, but with the F-150 with Max tow, that 3.73 rear is only one part changed, the rear brakes get slightly larger and the frame is HD vs MD on stock truck (for gen 14 F-150). This is one reason i suspect they make HDPP package bundled with Max Tow, both overlap and ford gets more profits. Did the F-150 rear ration ever get mentioned? i missed it if it did. Looks like the F-250 has the 3.73 with the 14k towing max. Also shouldn't it be mentioned that ford loaned these trucks for the video? That's a sponsorship and not sure if it was mentioned.

Great work on this comparison guys! Suddenly I feel like I’m driving a bargain in my 22 F350 lariat Godzilla with a black package. Ordered December 2021. $82,500.

@rich7447

11 ай бұрын

I ordered a F450 King Ranch ($92k) April 2022 and still don't have it.

Thanks guys I have been trying to decide between the two and I tow a 5000 pound travel trailer now and want to get a 9000 pound toy hauler travel trailer. Was told that the new F150 Powerboost was the way to go but it looks like the 250 makes more sense.

Great video. I'm sure this would be extremely difficult to get the two optioned trucks, but I would love to see a comparison between the 2023 models for the 3.5L w 3.55 geared F150 4x4 with max towing at 13,800 lbs and the 6.8L w 3.73 geared F250 with the same weight. Looking at the towing guide by Ford, 13,800-14,000 lbs on a is a little overlap between the two. I'm looking at buying an RV a few times a year. Both are maxed out pretty much at that weight. But both are very different motors. Let's go big or go home!!! FWIW, I would probably go with the F250 just for the added payload.

Payload and cost, and trans issues pushed me to the 250 back in 19 over the 150. I tow a few times a year, but also haul full bed loads of stone and other items. The 250 fit the bill and the XLT with the 6.2 came in at 46k.

@kenj.8897

11 ай бұрын

1/2 tons have crap payload after people and stuff .

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

@@kenj.8897 depends on the trim and spec. My F-150 XL has 2060lbs of payload which is plenty for my use. The optioned trucks down in the ~1500lb range though, yeah that's pretty low if you want to use your truck for towing or hauling.

@kenj.8897

11 ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP my Chevy had 2080 and I was maxed out with my 25 ft. Travel trailer and wife and dog . And we aren't fatties

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

@@kenj.8897 sounds like a considerable amount of tongue weight.

@byronlocklear91

7 ай бұрын

I purchased a 2020 f150 crew 4x4 with the payload capacity of 2477; it came with the HDPP. When coming to my father in laws ram 2500 Cummings, I had more payload. Don’t assume because you’re getting in a HD truck your payload will be better.

I was on the fence between a beefed up F150 5.0 or the F250 6.8 for an overlanding build with a truck camper so I’m choosing the F250 for the beefier frame and running gear. Kudos for doing this video!

Big question, so what rear gear was on your 5 liters 150 truck in your video. Thanks

most folks just need a Ridgeline or Santa Cruz.😅

I bought my most recent truck to tow a 7K travel trailer on the weekends. Coming from a Tundra, my biggest concerns were payload and fuel tank size (the Tundra’s payload was abysmal, but it had a 38 gallon tank). I was considering a 3/4 ton, but decided on an F-150 XLT with the heavy duty payload and max trailering packages instead. It has the 5.0, a rear axle similar to the F-250’s with a 3.73 gear set, an additional leaf, a 36 gallon tank, and a 2,570 lb. max payload. I hardly notice the trailer when I’m towing, but I think I may still go the 3/4 ton route in the future, if my wife and I decide to travel with our trailer more frequently.

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

That's a pretty nice spec of truck and should suffice even if you pick up the frequency of your trips. Even if you eventually get a 250, that HDPP and Max tow spec should command a good amount on the used market.

@newenglandrvadventures

11 ай бұрын

That’s a unicorn, the HDPP package is rarely ordered in a f150 that’s the truck that can actually tow the rated amount.

@bryaninnc5511

11 ай бұрын

@@newenglandrvadventures Yep. The guy who ordered it go tired of waiting, so I bought it.

@newenglandrvadventures

11 ай бұрын

@@bryaninnc5511 that’s awesome, that would been our choice if they still offered it in lariat trim. We ended up with a Titan XD. Night and day difference vs our 17 and 21 max tow only f150.

I thought that the base engine on the F250 XLT was the 7.3L. Ford only seems to offer the 6.8L in the XL (at least on their site). Getting a Super Duty is tough too. I have been waiting for a F450 for over a year.

Great video!! I’ll take the F-350 SRW Crew Cab 7.3 naturally aspirated V8 w/ 8 Ft Bed in Lariat trim.

Great video, very informative, especially about the gear ratio's and emphasis on what the "use" of the truck really is. I'm pulling a 5K lb. boat with a V6 Tacoma and its doing a very good job considering the size difference, but also thinking that a liitle bit bigger truck / engine may be way more comfortable - I'm liking the F150. The big question though is long term durability, my son's F150 is showing some irritating problems that my older Tacoma has none of....... If Tundra's were better looking, I would tend to stick with Toyota

I live in The Woodlands Texas (North Houston) and there has been an explosion of F250s around here. By the looks of them, they are more mall crawlers, than work trucks. Regardless, they are beautiful trucks. Im a Ram guy, and wont change over, but the looks of the F250 are hard to beat. Interior kills it for me on the Fords Also, your little "nugget" about axle ratio testing by engineers at Davis damn is a cool bit of info. Ill have to throw that out next time Im hanging with my buddies

I recently traded a 2018 Raptor for a 2023 F350 7.3/4.30. Overkill for my needs but I figure if I’m paying for a new truck, better to spend a little more up front and get that added capacity then to outgrow it and have to buy a new truck later. I loved the Raptor, I didn’t often need more tow capacity but I did often exceed its payload. After purchasing a Bronco for street legal wheeling and a RZR for desert/dunes, the Raptor was essentially my tow vehicle and was not being used for what it’s designed for. Hence the trade in.

I would like to see testing on the GM Trucks Gas version with the 10 Speeds

I grew up on a large cattle ranch in the mountains of New Mexico. Our home Was At 6000+ ft above sea level and we had all dirt roads until we reached a gravel pavement highway about 6 miles away. It was remote. In junior and high school, I drive a minimum of 148 miles or 238 kilometers to school every day! I had to pay for my own vehicle. My parents would give me $2 a day for lunch and $15 for Friday if I had a date and wanted dinner and a movie. I’d often not eat in order save a few extra dollars for date night. Anyway, the way I paid for tires, vehicle, etc was to cut firewood. Between my dad and Mexican workers we would cut, split, season and deliver 800-1000 cords of hardwood a year. We hauled up to 6 cord of wood per trip to town. Now 6 cords of hardwood can weigh upwards of 2000 - 3000 lbs per cord. Our 4 horse trailer was made out of steel casing and steel rod. It weighed about 3500 lbs. it was large enough to carry 4 fully grown bulls and very roomy for 4 horses. Anyway I would take a load to town and go to school. Back then blowing out tires or having retread tires delaminate was a weekly event. Tires and trucks have improved a great deal since the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. I had a 1/2 ton F-150 and my dad had a F-250 (1968, with 390 cu and 3:73 gears ) and a F-350 crew cab (1979, with 400 cubic inch engine and 4:10 gears). I would driven to school then after unload the wood at the customers home or business. Drive back home and the men who worked for us would load another load from 1 to 6. I also pulled the trailer with the 1/2 ton that had an inline 6 (300 cubic inch with 3:54?? Rear end). There is no doubt the heavier trucks did a better job carrying the loads. I did pull up to 4 cord with the 1/2 ton. It could do the job but much slower and I had to plan all my stops quite a way out. The trailer brakes were crucial when pulling with the 1/2 ton. Today I own a construction company. I’ve owned a lot of trucks and heavy vans. Todays “heavy 1/2 ton” pickups have a lot more horsepower and torque than out 79 1-ton pickups. Literally 1/2 ton trucks can and I have done this myself pull a 32’ fifth wheel that weighs 17,000 lbs. The F-150 has the 3.5 with 4:10 gears and the 5.5’ bed. It pulls the fifth wheel amazingly well even stopping well. However, it’s a lawsuit magnet and if we were to have an accident, even one that wasn’t our fault…. We would be ticketed and fined for pulling too heavy a load. So we don’t make a habit of pulling loads above the max on the door sticker. Does the F-250/350 or F-450 do a better job? Acceleration, not much. At high altitude the 3.5 eco boost kills the big normally aspirated gas V-8. But the F-250/350 are just more stable and provide a far greater range of safety. I’ve driven about 4,000,000 miles without an accident. I’ve delivered sheep, cattle, firewood, trailer homes, fifth wheels, travel trailers and all kinds of cargo. If a person is cautious, thoughtful and if they have the gift of common sense, you can safely tow a heck of a lot of weight in a 1/2 ton truck. But in the world we live in today… lawsuits have turned into the more reliable form of lottery earnings and the local Sheriff and police no longer just wave or shake their heads when they know your pulling more than the truck is certified for. If your pulling occasionally and driving your pickup empty a lot… if your pickup is 90% your family car. A 1/2 ton can save you a lot of money in fuel, in servicing (diesel oil changes etc). Also, the 1/2 ton generally have a nicer ride. If your towing a fifth wheel or other heavy loads, even if they are “just legal” in your 1/2 ton…. Go ahead and get a 1-ton OR if needed the F-450. When you tow a lot, it will wear out the 1/2 ton faster and once the truck is in the 100,000+ miles you’ll see a difference in the wear on the 1/2 ton vs the 1-ton. The 3/4 or 1-ton will be in better mechanical construction if treated the same. One other reason to buy a HD… resale. It’s been my experience that HD pickups, if we’ll maintained and the right color, right configurations will hold its value for many many years. For example 2008 F-350 King Ranch SRW 4x4 diesel trucks with 150,000 miles on great condition will sell for $35,000. The truck only cost $63,000 new.

I have f150 platinum and love it. Most comfortable vehicle I have ever had. My wife loves riding in it. Have 8,400 lbs rv. F150 with powerboost pulls that thing anywhere up mts etc. only issue windy days. The rv will move that f150 around. Sooo for more confidence getting the 250. Platinum. Looking for similar comfort.

The base model F150 XL is reasonably equipped and still comfortable to drive. It has bluetooth, android auto etc and payload around 2000 pounds. Everything you need and nothing you dont.

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

Yup as base models become more laden with content, I dont see myself ever desiring anything more than that. Love my XL and often certain features can be easily installed (I added the door keypad, did a console swap, and am considering swapping in heated mirrors).

@Glokens

11 ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP what year is yours? Does your XL have remote start? I read somewhere that the trucks with the physical key don't get the feature but it's available to turn on in the settings. Saw it on a 22.

@ALMX5DP

11 ай бұрын

@@Glokens mine doesnt have remote start on the fob, but I think I've heard of that feature being added with just the purchase of remotes and a receiver module that plugs right in. There is always the Ford App that I think supports this feature on all newer trucks (22+) though, however seems kind of a pain versus just hitting the button on the fob. If I lived in a colder climate, I would definitely consider adding to mine.

So what were the gear ratios in those trucks? Great comparison but you left that information out.

I don’t tow really much at all but Im thinking about one because I just like the simplicity of the larger displacement gassers. (And they are priced the same as the 1500s)

Miss my 5.0 F150, but the ecobeast with the 10 speed is SOLID.

Great video. Are u still with tfl?

Was going to get a new 23 F150 tremor but decided to go with a 23 F250 Lariat with the 7.3 since both were the same price.

Did did I understand y’all to say the difference in tow rating is based mainly on the rear end? I have a 21 F150 with 3:31 gears. Would the frame and transmission/cooling ability be the same as a 3:73 gear truck with standard towing package ??

STX F150 for the win. More payload. As long as you have a 5K to 7K trailer, you will be OK. The problems with the 1500 pound payload, first its a four door truck so you could have four or five passengers. Then people tend to have a bed topper, and stuff in the bed. So they quickly run out of payload. The problem with the higher tow rating F150s you will tend to run out of payload WAY before you run out of tow capacity.

@mikedurling2111

11 ай бұрын

My 2017 XLT 3.5 eco 4x4 crew cab has 1810 payload

@trumptookthevaccine1679

2 ай бұрын

Assume 10% to tongue weight a 10,000 lbs takes 1000 lbs payload leaves you with enough for passengers and some stuff. Wouldn’t ever want to tow 10k with a 150 tho

I bought a 2022 F150 RCSB 4x4 with 5.0. Could not get any rear gear except 3.31. Had 4.09 and 4.10 gears installed with 20x8.5 stock wheels with 285/60R20 with a 3.85 effective rear ratio. The truck is a tow beast and still gets 18mpg average. When I get a chance I will put a 9.75 rear axle with 4.10 gears. Too bad a person can't order it the way they want but Ford draws the line when it comes to a reg cab. I tow whatever I want within a 60 mile radius of my house and use a 94 1/2 7.3 for everything else. Great review and I understand the length and weight of the vehicle make alot of difference but prefer a reg cab short box most of the time. I usually pull a 12' dump trailer that weighs 3180 lbs and haul 3 to 4 thousand lbs. I agree with your Dad loads exceeding 9000 should only be towed with 3/4 ton pickups

And a doubt, is there a big difference in the internal width between them? I saw a vz that was almost the same and what changed the most was the load capacity and length!

F 250 I use it for work, towing, off-roading, daily driver. Looking into a truck camper so payload means the most. I would like to see a 6.8 vs 7.3 both with 4:30 gears if possible. I like the XL or XLT without all the bells and whistles.

I was stuck at this crossroad as to needing a 3/4 or 1 ton. Landed on the ‘21 f150 with the 3.5 eco, max tow and 6.5ft bed. For me I’m not towing daily, but towing every weekend be it my RV or boat. RV around 9k lbs fully loaded. Running a Stabilizer hitch and driving smart this truck handles this trailer perfectly. Torquey off the line, plenty of braking power. Will a 3/4 do it better? Yes of course. But this video comparison I believe wasn’t the best suited for the “crossover” point between a low end 3/4 ton and a half. The differences between the featured f150 and mine alone are huge

Interesting. I have a 13 5 1/2 bed f150 but it works for me I just load it with my camping shit and an occasional pallet. I like how that f150 has a power supply in the back

I traded a F150 for F250 and I also tow around 7000 or so. However my 7000 pounds is a 28 foot wind catching camper. This is where the F250 helped me. F150 had plenty of power no problem. But on the interstate around the wind gusts coming from semi trucks the F250 is much more steady.

@timjohnson4290

4 ай бұрын

80spyder1 you hit a topic that this excellent review did not address - the “push” of semi’s, class A RV’s and any other flat fronted vehicle passing my routine 65MPH truck with a 6400lb Airstream behind it. We started towing with the truck we already owned, a 2009, 4.6L 2WD, extra cab, short bed (5+ft) and about 1450 lbs of payload, approx 3800 rear end rating. With a topper, cargo, tongue weight, driver and pax were very close to the max payload. At the CAT scales, our setup was about 4300lbs on the rear axle, which got our attention, so we switched to an F250 with the standard bed (6+ft, 2WD, crew cab and 6.2L. My wife will now drive while towing and hated the “push” in the F150 and was reluctant to drive that setup. Did anyone notice those towing mirrors on the F150 TK tested? I have talked to many people at RV parks that have them as well on their F150 and ALL of them had to order them separately! Towing our same Airstream with the F250, is easier on the road, but as a daily driver, it does not make parking lots easy with a larger turn ratio, but has a much stronger rear axle rating and over 3300 lbs of payload. Some folks ask why we stayed with a Ford product when we purchased the F250 - our answer IF we had been driving any other brand and it provided 9 years of flawless driving we probably would have stayed with that brand. As a Toyota guy, I was hesitant about driving an American manufactured product, I was very impressed with the reliability of this F150. Towing MPG is about the same on both vehicles at 10MPG at 65MPH, Highway MPG is only a mile or two less on the F250 at about 16MPG. Please note that TK is in agreement with Big Truck, Big RV, TFL Trucks and KYD when they recommend considering a heavy duty truck (not brand specific) when you reach 6,000 lbs of towing required. Drop by any RV park and see what people are towing their 6,000lb+ rigs with and the majority of these experienced “towers” are using super duty trucks. Thank you again TK for this wonderful comparison and keep your great videos coming!

Nice review. How about 5.0 Vs. 3.5 Hybrid Vs. 3.5.... :) OK, I'll go search if you already did it.