Foolography's UNLEASHED Auto Ramping Timelapse Hands-on Review (the best one so far!)
Today I am reviewing the Auto Ramping feature of the Unleashed 18.
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00:00 Introduction
02:32 Setting up the Day to Nights
06:48 Checking the exposure ramping
11:10 EV-Meter vs LRT Algorithms
15:38 LRTimelapse
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Thanks for the great review, Emeric! Gorgeous timelapses too! If you don't mind, I'll answer a few questions you and your viewers brought up. 1) the 2s we require between exposure and interval is to be on the safe side and have enough time to do all autoramping calculations before the next shot starts. Since the 2.0.0 update it actually shouldn't be necessary anymore, but we're planning to run extensive testing before removing that restriction in the app. 2) If you want an algorithm that will go in both directions, you can try our "EV Smoothing 24h" next time. This one is based on the Camera's EV Meter which is perfectly fine for cityscapes, where it never gets pitch black. Since it can autoramp in both directions, it's also ideal for 24 hour day to night to day timelapses! 3) On your wide-angle shot the curve is slightly below the center line because your first shot was slightly under-exposed. The luminance value of the first shot of the timelapse is used as the reference value for the rest of the algorithm. But I'd always recommend underexposing - you can easily push exposure of RAWs in post, but once an image is overexposed and clips, there's nothing you can do anymore. 4) The slight increase near the end is because there is a slight difference between how the LRTimelapse software calculates the luminance and how we do it in the Unleashed: LRTimelapse does its calculations on the full resolution jpeg embedded in the RAWs, whereas we just use the embedded low resolution thumbnail. We have to do all the calculations on a tiny microprocessor with just 128 Kilobytes of RAM! To pull that off, we even had to write our own jpeg decoder from scratch. Anyway, that has a slight effect on the resulting curve, but as you can see, it's minimal, and since you'll be making adjustments in LRTimelapse and Lightroom anyway, it's extremely unlikely to cause any trouble, ever. 5) In your tight shot, I hope that double adjustment is because you changed the adjustment there, but we'll have another look in our implementation to make sure it's not a bug 😉 6) I was worried you'd run out of time before the Unleashed would get to ramping ISO 😅 So pro-tip for next time: just choose a duration (shooting time) way longer than you need! You can always stop a timelapse earlier than planned, but can't extend it quite so easily if you do run out of time 😉
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo thank you for all those answers. This is great! I definitely underestimated when the full darkness would be here. I usually shoot all my day to night timelapses with unlimited time and never actually set a duration. I think this is something that you could easily add to a future firmware, instead of "duration" only, give people the option to shoot unlimited. Beside simple timelapses, all my Holy Grail timelapses are shot with unlimited and I stop when needed. Glad you removed the 2", I think it's a bummer as someone who likes short intervals. Thanks for all the other info!
I have owned and used a few devices like this, that usually fit on the hot shoe mount (Pluto, MIOPS, Alpine, etc.). I got this one about a year back for my Nikon and love it! It is so small, does not need batteries (uses the camera's power, minimal draw) and the phone app is great. It resides on my camera nearly all the time and only removed when I use my Timelapse+. I'm actually thinking of getting a second for my other camera body. Fine German engineering.
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I was pleasantly surprised with the tool!
It took me 2 and a half years to get mine, and thanks to your review, I can say I'm happy with it now 🤪 You're the best Emeric 👍
@EmericTimelapse
5 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
Best auto ramping device I have seen so far! Get the Unleashed '22 here - www.kickstarter.com/projects/foolography/unleashed-22?ref=a2w7ub
I have two of the unleashed. And, I love them. I was lucky enough to buy them on their website when they were on sale. One thing Emeric didn't mention is that the devices also do geotagging by pulling GPS info from your phone. The price of the unleashed with all it's extra functionality was less than the price of a GPS unit from my camera manufacture. Well worth it for me. PS - thanks for the great review Emeric!
This is super awesome!! Big like! 👊😎
Did you get the Unleashed 22? I've had mine for a while now, have not used to hardly at all. Seems like a ton of engineering in such a small package. I hope to get out in the next month or two for some day to night or night to day Timelapse. Thanks for this review.
I Can’t wait to get mine!
Thank for the review. LRTimelapse curve look great. Perfect weight & size to fit with camera. Also great that it dont need battery. I have been waiting Sony version so long. Finally Unleashed 22 is coming. If it can preview timelapse in real time. It will be replace my Timelapse+ View.
Looks great, but I bought the Timelapse View + and used it once. I've also successfully used QDSLRDASHBOARD with my 6dmkii a few times.... That being said I'm still scrounging for money to get the Unleashed
Hi Emeric. Very interesting device. Would love to try it one day. Thanks for sharing. Btw, where exactly in Glendale is this location? Appreciate it man. Thanks.
I have one question before ordering Emeric. I read all the advertising on their site and they mention limiting dark time but give no specifics. How would it compare to the LRTimelapse ProTimer in this regard? In your video you show that the timer needs a full 2 second buffer between exposure time and interval. That seems pretty standard to me and not a great example of limiting dark time. Is this 2 second requirement only a function of the ramping? In other words on a normal time lapse can this be shortened? Because with a shutter of 1 sec the closest interval would be 3 seconds. That’s no good. Any input would be greatly appreciated as you have experience with both. Thanks so much Emeric.
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
2" is for Canon cameras, I believe you can go down to 1" with Sony and Nikon. The device has some pros and cons like everything else. I would def use Pro Timer 3 for fast interval timelapses.
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
And here I was, thinking I wrote way too much about dark-time in our campaign page😂. There are two main main causes of unnecessary dark time: 1) half pressing before the shot starts and 2) holding the shutterbutton for longer than the exposure time. The Unleashed eliminates both: 1) Because we have access to the camera settings, we can see whether the camera is set to AF or MF. If it's set to AF we'll show you a warning in the app as it's not recommended to use AF in timelapses. But if you choose to start one anyway, we do half-press 1 second before the shot to allow for focussing. But when the camera is set to MF, we can skip the halfpress entirely! 2) On most modern cameras, the Unleashed gets the information EXACTLY when the camera shutter opens and closes. The Unleashed releases the shutterbutton the instant we get the info that the shutter is open - ie the confirmation that our trigger command was successful. So even for super short exposure times, there is zero unnecessary hold-time. The two combined means that you'll get the absolute minimal dark-time that's possible with that camera, without you having to make any configurations! The 2 seconds is just a safety buffer so we can complete the autoramping calculations - it is unrelated to dark-time: we can do the calculations while you look at the image on the camera screen. As I wrote in the earlier comment: this will actually be reduced or even eliminated in the future. There is one limitation that we couldn't yet get around: because we trigger all cameras except Nikons via USB, we can't do very short intervals. On Canon, for example, we haven't reliably gotten below 1.5s! When we do try, the camera tells us it's busy, and would skip that interval. So we only allow a minimum interval of 2 seconds on Canon cameras. On the new Unleashed '22 we have the option to use an external Intervalometer, such as the LRT ProTimer, or manually triggering during a stop-motion but let the Unleashed do the Autoramping calculations. This only works on cameras with a separate remote terminal, but that's the case for all Canons.
Great review. So is this better than qDSL Dashboard and TimeLapse+ ?
@EmericTimelapse
Жыл бұрын
I have never really worked with qdslr so I can’t compare, but algorithm is the same.
amazing thx
Wow, maybe I can think about it
Do you have to keep connected with Bluetooth all the time or dose it still work if u disconnect?
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Nop. So you can turn off your phone and it will still work! I believe it’s called slave mode!
@TimetoLapse
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmericTimelapse nice, and one more question. Is it possible to only adjust the settings of the camera and let trigger the shutter by a other device? Or is the shutter blocked by the usb connection. (On Nikon this can happen)
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimetoLapse On the new Unleashed '22 we have the option to use an external Intervalometer, such as the LRT ProTimer, or manually triggering during a stop-motion but let the Unleashed do the Autoramping calculations. This only works on cameras with a separate remote terminal, but that's the case for all Canons. On Nikons we'd have to make a Y-cable to allow for this, but if there's enough interest, we'll do just that.
@TimetoLapse
2 жыл бұрын
@@foolography that’s perfect
@TimetoLapse
2 жыл бұрын
@@foolography so at the moment it don’t work for Nikon? Dose the unleashed Block the trigger from extern?
Very interesting device! I love it that you can control more than one camera at a time. Does it have an input for motion control gear? For example, could I have my NMX and Stage 1/R rig operating alongside Unleashed, with the NMX controlling the shutter and Unleashed controlling the exposure?
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
It does synch with motion control gear yes! Not 100% sure if every single brand but it does!
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
We added support for motion control in two ways: 1) The new Unleashed can be set to "external intervalometer" to do Autoramping calculations while a motion control device triggers the camera. This only works on cameras with a separate remote terminal, but that's the case for all Canons and several others. 2) The new Unleashed can establish a direct Bluetooth connection to a few motion controllers, such as the BlackForestMotion PINE controllers. We're also working on Syrp support, and would be happy to collaborate with any other Manufacturers that hae Bluetooth Low Energy in their Controllers. This way round is even better, because we can actually tell them to move at the exact moment that we get the info from the camera that the shot is done. This results in the longest possible time between move and the next shot, ie the maximum vibration reduction. The additional bonus is having no wires limiting your motion! 3) The motion controller has a connection to the PC Sync port or center pin of your hotshoe, where it gets the info when a shot starts, and can therefore move in the same interval. I believe this is possible on the NMX controllers
@macronencer
2 жыл бұрын
@@foolography Thanks for the detailed reply, much appreciated. I'll need to review this carefully - particularly as I don't have Canon (I have a Sony a77 and a Nikon Z6). I hope you can work with Dynamic Perception at some point to collaborate on the connectivity, that would be great!
@timelapsebylkunl72
2 жыл бұрын
@@foolography I using Sony camera with IFootage Shark Slider Mini. The slider don't have slave mode. It will be great if Unleash 22 can collaborate on the connectivity.
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
@@timelapsebylkunl72 I'll try to get in touch with them to see if we can add support for their devices in our Unleashed. It would definitely help if you write them too - it's always good to hear customer wishes!
does it support canon R ?
Hey there. I have always struggled with the camera shake from time to time. And now that I see this video I am very surprised that I didnt learn sooner about this lens support! Can you tell me where can I get one of these wondaful devices from please.
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
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@MrDrRipper
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmericTimelapse thanks. Once I wrote the question I did look at your page and realised that it was in your list of tool so I quickly ordered one. Thanks again for the reply.
Which part did you use to hold the extended part of the lens with the tripod head?
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
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will it be possible to operate a slider via the app in the future? I am currently using the Black Forest Motion slider, but would prefer a lighter solution for traveling.
@joebelanger4458
2 жыл бұрын
I use the Kessler slider and have a workaround for my TLView. The slider computer just sends a pulst to the view and it does its thing. Hoping there is a way to send a signal to the 22.
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
@@joebelanger4458 Does the Kessler Controller have Bluetooth Low Energy too? or just Wifi? If it has BLE, we could add wireless support for it in our Unleashed! Otherwise you can set the Unleashed'22 to external intervalometer mode, and let the Kessler device trigger the camera. This will work on all canons, and several other cameras where the Unleashed doesn't block the Remote port. On Nikons we're considering making a Y-Cable to allow external intervalometers.
Merci beaucoup pour ce tuto. J'avais acheté cet accessoire que j'avais testé 2 fois et le changement de l'ouverture ne ne produisait pas (peut-être un bug dans le firmware de l'époque, maintenant je viens d'installer le nouveau) et donc j'ai commencé à faire mes timelapses manuellement avec tes tutoriels, ça prend plus de temps mais c'est plus gai pq'on modifie ses paramètres manuellement. Concernant cet accessoire, pourrais-tu m'expliquer la fonction "Adjust" et m'expliquer un peu à quoi cela sert et comment l'utiliser stp ? Merci
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Je parle de ce qu'est Adjust à 11:11 mais je n'ai pas encore mis les sous-titres français, donc c'est peut-être un peu technique pour ceux qui ne sont pas parfaitement bilingue. Adjust est tout simplement pour modifier la référence de l'exposition de ta caméra. Si tu trouves que c'est un peu trop clair, tu vas réduire ta luminosité, ou trop sombre tu l'augmentera. Avec le EV-Meter ça se joue en 1/3 de stop et en 10% avec l'algorithme LRTimelapse. Donc si c'est trop clair, descend de -10% ou -1/3 par exemple et le Unleashed gardera cette exposition un peu sous-exposé. Vas-y molo quand même et attend que le Unleashed ai changé les paramètres avant de toucher au Adjust une nouvelle fois.
@NardoG4s
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmericTimelapse Merci beaucoup, je testerai en fin d'après-midi.
Does Unleased support Canon R6?
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
The new Unleashed '22 will!
Dommage les sous-titres sont en anglais ! Va tu faire une vidéo en français ?
Where i can buy that hoodie ❤️ Great work btw 👍
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Haha this is one I made, not for sale. At least for now! Sorry
can you change the interval time while recording?
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
Haven't actually tried haha looks like the interval is gray when shooting, so probably not but I can send a note to the developper for futur improvements.
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
Not at the moment, but in the new Unleashed there will be an option for flexible intervals. This means the interval you set ( such as the 7 seconds) will be the minimum interval. As shutter speeds get longer, we will then increase the interval so that no shots are ever missed.
Unleashed 2 vs arsenal??? anybody
Would be convenient to start shooting timelapse on a field and forget about camera for entire time - just enjoy sunset or do something else during that time. With standard intervalometer I have to put my attention to camera settings and check it all the time. I'm wandering - if in few years we get to the point when technology allows us just to put camera, press button in app, set to apply filter, let AI to clean video from birds, flickering and new timelapse will be ready without almost any efforts. Some algorithm should also automatically upload it to social media, define tags, put it to stock websites. In that case the work of timelapse photographer will be just find good view and catch special weather event (sunset, clouds, rain, storm etc)
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
One day maybe!
@joebelanger4458
2 жыл бұрын
We will see this soon built into most cameras. But until then, small and powerful is good.
this piece of crap does not auto ramp for me...Nikon D850, the light is on,,,everything was set identical to your numbers for Day and then for Night..nada, zippo..does not work.....almost $300 bucks down the drain..and there is no way of getting a Timelapse + View.. the only one that really works...
@EmericTimelapse
6 ай бұрын
Timelapse+ View had some huge flaws too, never really liked it for my long term work. Commenting here is not gonna help, just reach out to customer service.
I bet you can't charge your camera while using this
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I understand what you are saying. You plug it into the USB port, and what’s the point of charging the camera while shooting anyway? And shooting for a long time, just use a dummy battery then.
@verlorenerjunge5921
2 жыл бұрын
@@EmericTimelapse charging over usb-c is quite comfortable, but yeah I forgot about dummy batteries.
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
@@verlorenerjunge5921 Depends on your camera. It works for Nikon if you don't use the USB cable (that's optional on all Nikons with a USB-C port - there's another protocol via the 10pin port that we have implemented), and there's even the possibility to use a specific Y cable with some limitations. But yeah, I'd also recommend the dummy battery - most cameras that allow powering via USB will still drain your battery with USB-C connected, just a bit slower.
@bothhemispheresphotography5031
2 жыл бұрын
@@foolography ah, but charging via USB means you can swap external batteries (at least on my Sony A7III cameras, as the external batteries charge the internal one, and the internal one runs the camera).
@foolography
2 жыл бұрын
@@bothhemispheresphotography5031 That's true - powering via USB-C will definitely prolong battery life! I was just saying that with most cameras, the internal battery won't actually charge even if powering the camera via USB-C, and will actually still deplete, albeit at a slower rate. But still that'll probably still help you get through a long timelapse!
I was interested…. Until I read the words Kickstarter. No thanks!
@natashameissner
2 жыл бұрын
You can check out the current version (the one Emeric's using here) if you use a Canon or Nikon camera. The Kickstarter is just for the new version. Both have the Autoramping feature.
@EmericTimelapse
2 жыл бұрын
They have had a few Kickstarter successful campaigns and like Natasha said you can get one from Canon or Nikon right now.
@joebelanger4458
7 ай бұрын
@@EmericTimelapse buyer beware. No flexible intervals. If you are doing true holy grail you are screwed with a 25-30 second interval during the day.