Does anyone else think the same about these Harlan Coben adaptations on Netflix? They have a good core but they just feel a bit Hallmark...

@Aezra27

7 ай бұрын

Yes “Hallmark” seems like an apt description.

@vinniechan

7 ай бұрын

The first few set in a small English town were a nice change of pace. After a while you notice that he seems to think everyone lives in a big house driving SUV which is a little cringe

@chandraspillane1601

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Exemplified Hallmark

@lynahiacampbell8232

7 ай бұрын

The only good one was the Spanish series innocent ! But this fool me once - I agree with everything you said - it just didn’t make sense and some stuff was pointless ! Like how did Judith know Maya had a nanny cam !

@kelvinmartinez4770

7 ай бұрын

Hallmark, early 2000 lifetime with BBC

The biggest plot twist was Sami’s hallucinations , that floored me

@cheebadigga4092

16 күн бұрын

true!!!!!

Bro that ending where maya got killed the on the live stream was 10 OUT OF FUCKING 10.

@user-qj3pt7dc9g

7 ай бұрын

Corey sure got his 10 minutes of fame!

@AaronSmith0

6 ай бұрын

Bro wrote this to try and spoil 😂

@fay.13

6 ай бұрын

@@AaronSmith0if someone didn’t want to be spoiled they wouldn’t watch a video EXPLAINING the ending? Dumbass 💀

@jemazondo9331

6 ай бұрын

@@AaronSmith0 why would someone be watching this video if they haven’t finished the show? That’s stupid

@mitch6969123

5 ай бұрын

It was a twist, as good as any other ending I guess. If she just caught them on live feed admitting what they did and she lived, don’t think it would have been any better..

Moral: dont trust men named joe in netflix shows

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Lol, true

@annam5898

7 ай бұрын

This one, “you”, what other joes are there?

@hamouziii

7 ай бұрын

joe rogan@@annam5898

@linkash4167

6 ай бұрын

Or Joe mama

@JoeMama-sd2kl

2 ай бұрын

Hey thats not nice ​@@linkash4167

For those who keep saying the show was a waste because she knew she was the killer to begin with COMPLETELY missed the point. 😅she wanted to figure out WHY her sister was murdered. All she knew when she killed her husband was that Joe killed her sister. She never knew why he did. her pretending to look for the killer was her cover for finding out the truth behind why he sister was murdered to begin with. The mother in law new she more than likely killed Joe because she knew he murdered her sister.

@donut5143

7 ай бұрын

damn it sucks that people could miss that lol

@Foxie444

7 ай бұрын

@@donut5143🎯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@kelvinpeter1564

7 ай бұрын

They probably didn't finish the series, that's why!! At the end of the series is where you understand what Maya was looking for all that time.

@hkewell77

7 ай бұрын

Shit show pile of trash

@thehater6189

7 ай бұрын

No lol. She should have intuited it immediately like all the viewers did. Obviously it had something to do with her job at the pharmaceutical company. It also doesn't explain her investigation into all the other stuff joe did. Lastly, it makes absolutely no difference why he killed her sister. It was just a cheap plot device to hide the twist that she was the killer.

I have questions...Why did we not get any answers about what Shane was up to?Why was he tracking her car,and watching her?Did miss something?

@koma3475

7 ай бұрын

That’s what I was wondering about at the end. Why was he creeping around?

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

I think he was worried/concerned about her. At least that’s what I took from it

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the way Maya treated people was insane but apparently they are all obsessed with her and will do anything for her! When she turned up to Theo's mum's house and just started blurting out questions about her dead son with no sensitivity I was done. She just uses people then discards them. And the way she just expects people to mind Lily at the drop of a hat CONSTANTLY and also expects her brother in law to become her surrogate father with 2 kids to bring up alone, a drink problem and a step-son to build a relationship says it all. Extremely poor character development. And finally, who goes around pulling down grown men's pants on the football pitch and getting away with it in 2024!!!! That is sexual assault! INSANITY!

@vinniechan

7 ай бұрын

i just sort of explained it away because they served together so there might be some veteran bond besides, given how much Maya had been keeping from him it wasnt unreasonable he had his suspcious

@Canz3

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@missthea5259why do we have to share the world with ppl like you smh .

To be honest, this show kept me entertained until the very end as I found the plot to be very surprising in my opinion which is a good thing. However I cannot fathom the idea of Lily being older and being confronted with the video footage of your mom being killed by your uncle because of your mom who killed your father because he killed your aunt. Now that is a bit much for me lol

@EarlobeJuice

6 ай бұрын

Never thought about it that way. It’s truly insane! Lol.

I think it was fun. Especially Sami's storyline, which had me very attached to the character. I also think the point of the half brother/ Claire's other son is to give Claire and excuse to visit the school because she was trying to find out more about the Burketts

@frostmatt863

7 ай бұрын

Yes exactly, it provided the story of Theo

I enjoyed this series but there is one part that gets me. So how did Judith know that Maya had that nanny camera? Her friend gave it to her. How would Judith have been able to set up the whole "Joe is alive on camera" thing. She would have had to have known about the Nanny camera. Did I miss something? And this happened on the very first day it was set up so it would seem like Judith had to have known it would be there. This is a big part of the plot where Judith tries to make Maya seem unstable and ties into the end. How did Judith know that Maya had that camera in the first place?

@samthorp3891

7 ай бұрын

Very good point, having just finished it I can corroborate this lol I can't think how she would've known about the camera unless maybe the nanny had discovered it and told Judith about it. That's the only explanation I can think of

@chickenpit9991

7 ай бұрын

I forgot which episode it was but Maya's friend mentioned that the Nanny cam can be hacked when she was blackmailed by her ex husband sending photos, there is a possibility that their(Maya) house is under surveillance given the Burkett family's resources and it was also mentioned in the show that Judith was already skeptic about Maya's statements regarding Joe's death so it is not impossible that the whole place is bugged or at least under surveillance.

@bossMEE

7 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that as well. My theory is that the nanny noticed the camera because Judith also had one in her room being which is the room Mya was killed in. I believe the nanny reported back and it jump started the plan of posing as if Joe was still alive, hence is the start of the murder mystery.

@britishroyalfamilyvideos

7 ай бұрын

The mother hired the nanny to put a deepfake on the nanny camera. She knew about it

@hugoperhammer

7 ай бұрын

The nanny, who had worked for the burketts, admitted to having deep faked Joes camera appearence on camera, implying that she was either paid or forced by Judith to do so. Thus, Judith knew about the camera frame.

Feel like joe’s character wasn’t developed enough for it to be really thought provoking. Like we’re really left in the dark with what he was like as a person. At the start we think he’s a good person and then we realize near the end he was bad and killed people, but apart from that very little we know about him

@TheBmbl

6 ай бұрын

That's the whole point. For you to think about it. For you to make the judgement. That's the whole purpose- not knowing him, getting to know him slowly, liking him, then changing your mind as you get to the truth. People forget it is based on a novel, Harlan Coben is known for his short, witty, Hollywood action like novels. It's always a short mystery and twisted happy ending

It was such a good series. One of the better series on Netflix I’ve seen in a while

Sami & Shane my favourite character 😊 So sad Maya died but she avenged her sister's death. All 4 cousins (Abby, Dan, Lilly & Louis) lost their mums. 😢

I sort of agree with your assessement. the show did a good job connecting all the dots and tied everything together, but because it tied things up so well, when the reveal i was so like oh, yeah it made sense.

Who the hell was stalking her though? I knew we were meant to believe it was Shane, but at least once or twice a hooded figure was stalking her and was never revealed who it was.

@jodirenner1121

7 ай бұрын

Yes 👏 👏 Thank you I was just going to comment that. I did not understand what that was all about

@BS3000

7 ай бұрын

I assumed it was Shane keeping tabs on her, since he was always at the house.

@santadeville242

6 ай бұрын

....just one of the totally pointless things: why was he stalking her? He wanted to know why Maya was doing all that, as we see, pontless running around pretendung that she was looking for a murderer? What a waste of my time.

@wickywicky3811

6 ай бұрын

It was her friend. Multiple times you were shown by his behavior that he was onto her, as in he knew something weird was going on.

I absolutely loved it! It served its purpose and the ending caught me right off guard and that’s what a series is suppose to do.

@mrscwhite18

7 ай бұрын

I was shocked too hoping that she really didn’t die. I loved it

@annam5898

7 ай бұрын

@@mrscwhite18well I was hoping she didn’t actually kill her husband cuz it doesn’t make sense how hard she’d been trying to find answers and such

@JT-lf4ms

7 ай бұрын

@@annam5898lowkey true like the show tricked us

@khris8736

7 ай бұрын

​@@annam5898she was trying to find out why her husband killed her sister under the cover of trying to figure out who killed her sister and husband

@Rex544-nc6ms

7 ай бұрын

​@@annam5898tbh I never believed husband is a good guy but she killing her husband is some what a trick also what i don't get it is why she shoot her husband that quickly she should have to ask Joe seriously about why he killed her sister by torturing them or any way Instead of this

Wow, completely disagree. I thought this was a fantastic show. Very engaging, well acted and produced. I couldn’t stop watching. I agree the 18 years later part was unnecessary but other than that it was fun to try to piece together what really happened. Highly recommended.

@hkewell77

7 ай бұрын

Your iq is low

@anakinjmanu

7 ай бұрын

Agreed it was an amazing show but I believe the ending was a nice touch.

@Ray03595

6 ай бұрын

The last episode didn’t land for me. They tried to portray Maya as a hero. She was awful to basically every character the entire show, blew up an innocent family overseas, and also murdered her husband. And they still tried to make her out to be a good person 😂

I really liked the series tbh. Yeah, little bit plot holey, and the ending was a bit silly in terms of her decision to get killed. But I was intrigued and guessing the whole time.

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

That's fair! For me, I just wish it had a bit more substance to it!

@kaystaah4238

7 ай бұрын

I think she had alot of regret when she had to make a choice of killing innocent civillians in the past which caused her psd this was another reason that played on while she wanted to get killed as she didnt forgive herself.

@naturallyawesome6723

7 ай бұрын

Okay bro let’s see you make a murder mystery show better than this. Couch critic

@LaiLai..

7 ай бұрын

I actually prefer her dying in the end versus just going to jail. It just made more sense.

@jisunggoat960

6 ай бұрын

@@LaiLai..she just didn’t need to be the killer in the first place

Fantastic. I really enjoyed the chosen actors here. They fit perfectly in their roles and offered real talent for the viewer. Everything in one series done just perfectly. Loved it!

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Michelle Keegan was well cast, but I thought the story fell a bit short!

@daisybuttercup6801

7 ай бұрын

The plot was ridiculous, what a lot of time I wasted watching this baloney. “Fool me once” it certainly fooled me into watching it.

@sazmullium

7 ай бұрын

@@daisybuttercup6801you obviously missed the point then… the point was Maya knew Joe had killed her sister but had no idea why. Which is why she used the guise of ‘searching for the killer’ to find out why her sister was murdered and what was wrong with Joe’s family.

@santadeville242

6 ай бұрын

​​@@sazmullium...and she got a pretty good picture when Corey had explained here and this where the should have finished.

Me and my wife just finished this. Binged it all within 24 hours lol. We enjoyed the show and it kept our interest even if some parts could have been trimmed down or cut out all together. Maya and Sami were the best parts of the show. Some plot points didn’t make sense but we did like the twist at the end. Its not everyone’s cup of tea but I don’t regret watching it.

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Yeah Maya and Sami definitely were! Outside of that, I just thought the plot felt very thin and almost quite pointless. It's an easy watch for sure which is good! I just expected a bit more of a darker tone

What was the deal with Shane? They never really explain his connection with the Nannie and her husband. He just takes the pickup truck, drop them off, then heads off to who knows where.

@xty070

7 ай бұрын

Connection ? He didn't have any connection..he simply helped Maya by dropping them in the middle of nowhere..and he wasn't going to walk back home so he took their truck

@BeedotWill

7 ай бұрын

He was in the Military with Mya so his relationship to the fam was through her. He was basically a male bff.

@SteveMichaels1

7 ай бұрын

His head dress was the worst lol

So, Shane was just creeping around? Even sat in her house whilst on the phone to her and she lies saying she was home lol

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! Nah! This series was a mess saved by great performances. I wanted to see more of Marty too. Such a great character played by a talented actor but they just cut him loose.

@vanshikakalra2678

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I felt so sure that Shane was involved in something...somehow...but NO

@bt2598

7 ай бұрын

Yea Shane was sketchy. Also too calm with maya being a murderer and still willing to help her

@antinsanwo

7 ай бұрын

Yeah why was he outside her window at night watching in like a serial killer too! That never amounted to anything just an overdone misdirect

@405Smokesesh

7 ай бұрын

when was this@@antinsanwo

I liked this show, but my problem with limited series is the last two episodes are usually rushed. The first 6 we slowly find out information. Towards the end they just start outright saying the information with no build up

The ending reminds me of the movie A Simple Favor by Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively

It was a good series, the ending was quite good but I didn’t understand why she was going here, there and everywhere, trying to track people down etc when she knew exactly what happened to her husband and why she did it..

@Cxmilee95

7 ай бұрын

She was playing detective to find out the reasonings behind it all! All she knew when she killed Joe was that he killed Claire and NOTHING more

@emmahepburn2969

7 ай бұрын

@@Cxmilee95I’ve literally been watching it okay if today and I have to admit to getting abit lost around episode 6. Can you tell me how Maya first ever found out that it was her own husband that had killed her sister though pls ?

@tommyquinn5933

7 ай бұрын

​@@emmahepburn2969she was suspicious of a burglary that killed Claire and had found that Joe had opened the gun closset so she had Shane test the bullet if it matched any of hers and she was 70% sure then and that's why she switched the guns to test Joe

@polaroidd1306

7 ай бұрын

people seemed to have missed this but its because she saw her husband that she killed herself on a nanny cam, it literally started everything

@405Smokesesh

7 ай бұрын

so maya found out because for one joes fingerprints where visible on the gun safe not only that her and shane where at the gun range and she kept a bullet and had shane test the bullet where they found out the guns used in both murders where the same hence why they kept saying the bullet was shot from the same g @@emmahepburn2969

Can anyone explain the scene where Lily runs to plants or bushes in front of her house and saying It's daddy daddy ??? Like what was that scene ??

@conniearcher96

5 ай бұрын

Right ?! After seeing that I was like omg joes aliiiive

@cheebadigga4092

16 күн бұрын

lmao I just hated that kid in general but that scene was really weird

I got bored after three episodes and skipped to episode 8 to get it over. Surprisingly, I really didn’t feel like I missed anything since Maya pretty much tells us everything before she’s shot. Glad I didn’t sit through all eight episodes.

@wernergamper6200

7 ай бұрын

Got bored after one and a half episode and headed straight to this video.

@rthomas470

7 ай бұрын

@@wernergamper6200 Wish I had done that as well. LOL

@conoroconghaile1419

7 ай бұрын

@@wernergamper6200 I did the very same haha

@cindyj.4695

7 ай бұрын

Funny enough I watched the first two and the last. I feel like 3 episodes would have sufficed. But still it wasn’t that great.

@tarasubramaniam6191

7 ай бұрын

Brought up reading Josephine Tey.. PD James..Agatha Christie . Dorothy Sayers.. I got bored after 2 episodes ..skipped to lasr episode.. and ending 18 years later.. was anti climax as Kierce never aged or use walking stick!!

okkkk i just figured it out after watching. so maya finds out through the guns and blah blah blah that her husband killed her sister. she sets him up and kills him because she can’t sleep in the same bed as a murderer. she makes herself look innocent to not get put in jail to investigate why he would kill her sister. she goes on this whole adventure to uncover what claire knew about joe that would prompt him to kill her. i literally thought the scenes were like before she killed joe but it wouldn’t make sense because she was talking about joe being dead with sami. just got that 😭

I loved it I was hoping she didn’t really die. But it was a great series

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

Like why would you purposefully orphan your daughter? I know it's dramatic license but it just doesn't make sense.

@mrscwhite18

7 ай бұрын

@@missthea5259 yeah that’s why I was hoping she was still alive. One thing I agree with this could have been done in 6 episodes rather then 8. But great binge watching

@vinniechan

7 ай бұрын

@@missthea5259 I thought it was due to her unresolved guilt over killing civilians.

@mrscwhite18

7 ай бұрын

@@vinniechan yeah your right because she killed innocent civilians. Over all I really did enjoy the series

@Ms.L.

7 ай бұрын

Very entertaining but so sad. People don't want to see all that PTSD and combat does to mental health.

yes. this thing about claire’s other son was a big waste

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, utterly pointless. It went nowhere

@Guzunderstrop

3 ай бұрын

No it wasn't a waste, it was a red herring. Not everything that happens to people are connected. Just because they found out about Louis after Claire was murdered doesn't mean that he had anything to do with her murder. But people trying to investigate the murder don't know that. Having this storyline (and the one about Eddie meeting another woman) adds a layer of complexity to the story, so that the investigators (and the audience) are in different minds about whether all these facts are related to each other, or whether they're coincidences.

@cheebadigga4092

16 күн бұрын

@@Guzunderstrop whatever they tried with this whole thing didn't work out (for me), so it really felt completely unnecessary. Especially when Eric told his kid's half sibling that he would go on and try to contact his dad for him. Felt like Eric really was that kinda guy, but I guess money eventually ran out or something and they didn't wanna go there. But why bring it up in the first place? To make Eric look like a good dad because he felt like he wasn't a good one? Whatever..

Great series, though, the ending was very poor. To reveal that Maya killed Joe was a major disappointment for me. Like, really, she started from episode 1 to find out who killed Claire. And the ending shows us that she knew who killed her already yet they portrayed it as if she didn't. It goes to show that she killed Joe without all the necessary information. Like she didn't know who about the burner phone, she didn't know who Claire was speaking to from the arcade, she didn't know who Tommy Dark was. Its like she just killed Joe solely because of the bullet match and did not even know why Joe killed her (motive). We have also so many unanswered questions, like what was the purpose of telling us of Claire's other son? Why was Shane spying on Maya? Why did Lily say "Dada" when she was outside close to the hedge? I honestly thought Joe was alive somehow, or at least that's what they made us believe. And the Izabella involvement was dismissed even by the police. ooh just so many unanswered questions.

@bt2598

7 ай бұрын

It was almost like she needed the justification and cleansing for Joe’s murder that she didn’t get from the civilians murders when she was in the military.

@dogsbreakfast4952

7 ай бұрын

Great series 😂 naa it was shyte mate

@405Smokesesh

7 ай бұрын

evidence for maya killing joe Reason number 1/ He didn't like guns altho his visible fingerprints where on the gun cabinet. Reason 2/ he didn't seem upset at the funeral giving they worked together for a long while. Reason 3/ The bullet was fierd from there gun Reason 4/ He tried to shoot here lmao. i dont understand why lily said dad

@brycemcmillian1519

7 ай бұрын

She knew 100% that Joe killed her sister but she didn’t know why

@Serromusic

7 ай бұрын

​@@405Smokesesh The scene where Lily said 'dada' was the first time Maya used Joe's car. So it could be she saw daddy's car and said dada.

I knew she killed Joe. I knew it. Called it from episode one and every episode after that.

This is why I love people who recap. Saved me all this time lol

I thought this show was great! Never saw that ending. Well done.

An absolute waste of time considering Maya knew she killed her husband because he killed her sister. Some of the dumbest and most pointless subplots ever and the “twist” was underwhelming at best.

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it was such a shame...

@Wateverrho

7 ай бұрын

Totally. I almost missed the big reveal as I wasn't really paying attention, and my literal reaction was "huh?" Why was she pretending to search so hard for the killers?

@chrissym3733

7 ай бұрын

Very slow waste of time

@royalty4958

7 ай бұрын

@@Wateverrho She acted as tho someone else was responsible for Joe's murder and used it as a big misdirection to buy her time to investigate what her sister had found out about the Burkett family that eventually led to her death. Makes sense why you didn't enjoy it, you weren't even paying attention

@3798783

7 ай бұрын

I’m so glad to hear that I’m not the only one who was annoyed by this! This killed the whole show for me.

So what was the explanation for her seeing Joe on camera? And why did the nanny delete the files?

@zoeshaclarke8315

7 ай бұрын

Judith set it up to make Maya slip up and confess. A deepfake.

@hugoperhammer

7 ай бұрын

The nanny admitted having placed a deep faked video on the nanny cam. The implication being, because the nanny had worked "in the burketts family forever" that Judith or someone else paid/forced them to do so, to confuse her. A grieving widow going insane might actually hallucinate seeing her dead husband, but if she killed him, she would know that it's not hallucinations.

And the 18 years later was necessary for those invested and who would want to know what happened to the other characters

@loobyh6274

7 ай бұрын

I would have preferred to see the Burkett family get their comeuppance and Judith and her son locked away in prison

@cheebadigga4092

16 күн бұрын

@@loobyh6274 yeah, would've been much better

I think a lot of questions remain unanswered. 1) Why was Shane stalking Maya? I guess we all remember that moment when he put a tracker on her car. 2) Who was the man outside Maya's house looking at her when she was writing the letter (which is later shown as the letter to Eddie) 3) What happened to Joe's death certificate and the will reading? 4) What about the call Caroline made to Maya saying she saw Joe? And then Maya calls her back, and we hear some raspy breathing of a man? 5) What's the point of having Louise and Alexander in the whole show? I guess they didn't have anything to do with the plot.

I must admit I was disappointed with how Harlan Coben’s best seller book was portrayed. At one point I missed an episode because I fell asleep and I had to go back. The ending was unnecessary and too many episodes! It could’ve been done in 6 and made those episodes better with more depth like the book. I did enjoy Keegan’s acting and the actor who played Sami. It’s such a shame because it could’ve been so much better! Will you be rating the BBC Tourist?

@ulrichk3677

7 ай бұрын

That is your opinion The universe don't care

@user-fm4dd6sx3i

4 ай бұрын

​@@ulrichk3677 So? It's wrong to give opinions now?

I think the people who do not like this show... can't handle psychological thrillers.

I loved the show! The only gripe I have about it is this: The nanny cam was so conveniently placed it doesn't make any sense. Was the frame always sat on that specific place? If so, then yeah, Corey hacking it is believable. Otherwise... it was kind of a cheap way out for the showrunners. Maybe I didn't notice the frame before, though. Nonetheless this show was epic!

Who was the man breathing on phone while Maya called Caroline?

I honestly wanted to see what Maya’s letter to Lily said

I think I missed this part...but was Sami's friend he talked to that we found out had been murdered his former partner? How was she killed?

@brycemcmillian1519

7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure it was his ex

@conniearcher96

5 ай бұрын

It was his dead ex

Thought there were too many subplots and random unrealistic things happening all at once. Personally I would’ve preferred a story where joe and Claire ended up being alive all this time and if they focused on something revolving around that

Basically watch #1 and last one to save yourself half the time. When she pulled out that glock and put gloves on i knew she did it right away. That was to much of a dead give away

If you have ever seen the movie Dead Zone 1983 with Chris walken, this ending is exactly the same with the exact same words. They both set them selves up to be killed, and their last words were: You're finished. Same ending

It was more of a telenovela than a mystery. Yes, many usual tactics including misdirection & adding layers each episode. I liked it but it didn’t have the impact I was expecting, something was off. Loved the main actress!

Five episodes should do, not 8..😮😵‍💫

Amazing show. Didnt end up how I thougt it would. What is still a mystery to me, what about Maya’s friend that gave her the camere ? Also I thought Shawn is going to be one of the bad guys

@conniearcher96

5 ай бұрын

It’s so it would be tied in with the ending , she used the picture frame to set up the live at the end where she got killed

As if Joe wouldn't check that the gun was loaded and operational

@antinsanwo

7 ай бұрын

In the heat of the moment I can see it happening

@Ray03595

6 ай бұрын

Also Maya’s coat should be covered in gun powder residue. No way they wouldn’t have taken her clothes for evidence as well. Spouses are always prime suspects in murder investigations

When shane set off the alarm i thought he was the killer

The problem is just that once maya meets the hacker dude, she could have gone directly to the climax. She could have said "look, hacker, i know joe killed my sister and i am going to confront his clearly corrupt family who was bribing people left and right. Please live stream it." The end. The hacker already knew that they were faking trials. There was absolutely no need for her to continue her investigation after she met the hacker. They could just compare notes and literally everything of value would be revealed. Instead, they went to find the boat captain's body. It was mid and poorly written

This was by far the biggest waste of time ever since I've been having Netflix. To spend 8 episodes to find out why Joe killed her sister?! Seriously?!

I disagreed with almost the whole video apart from the Claire son part yes that is pointless 😂

Finally an honest review. It sucked but I feel you were really nice in critiquing it. Well done. This show should have been called “Reaching” because that’s what it did from start to finish.

I have to disagree with you. The fact that she died in the end is something I did'nt expect, but feels more true to the character and what would happen in real life. You wouldn't see such an ending in many other shows. I found the storyline refreshing. Also those other elements, such as the adopted son, also true to real life. In real life there are many different storylines going on and not everything has to be about the murder mystery in my opinion. I think they also wanted to focus on relatable real-life stories.

Such a disaster of a show; I kept on with it as so many people were raving about “all the twists” - but it was so contrived it didn’t shock me at all. The worst thing about it, aside from all the bizarre plot holes, was the SCRIPT. Utterly dire. Not sure why that policeman partner guy was being forced to make such dreadful jokes, and the way the characters had to constantly remind you what was going on through dialogue (ie “hello police officer that’s investigating the murder of both my husband and my sister, but has failed to do so thus far” and “why did you do it to Clare? My sister? You killed Clare. My sister.” etc) was distracting. It felt like something a 16 year old would write in GCSE drama.

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

i think they were trying toe be cute and lighten the mood with a comedy rookie v jaded cop routine, Sadly though it didn't work.

Maybe I missed it, but what was the deal with the blood in the trunk of the football coach's car? Was that ever explained?

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

That was his son's as he got injured when he fell off the bike!

7 murders and nobody goes to jail. Very realistic

I couldn't get through first 5 mins so I'm here to quickly end the loop now I know how it ends ...I'm glad I didn't waste my life on this.

@skru2476

6 ай бұрын

😂😂

I thought the show was pretty good. Your review is quite harsh. Adeels acting was phenomenal as Sami Kierce.

I dont understand how you thought it was underwhelming, absolutely loved it. It was really engaging, you missed on this one bro.

whether you like the show or not, I just wanna shed a different light on it, or try to get into the "psychology" of it. the bottom line and plot is: FAMILY. Maya was suffering from PTSD, and felt profound guilt over the massacre that she conducted. she couldn't ever again think of herself as a good person, a good mother, and in all actuality, she probably wasn't. she goes on to find out that the father of her child is also a murderer, and is coming from a supremely corrupt and evil family. she was counting on her sister, to raise Lilly, in case something happens to her, but the sister ends up getting killed. as the investigation goes on, her maternal instincts kick in, but in unusual ways. she scans the environment for "good people", that would be there for her daughter, as Maya was on a suicide mission as well, whether she knew it or not. she asks Eddie to take care of Lilly, and tells him that he is a good father. she asks Sami about his unborn child. she discovers that her sister had another son, who is also brought into the good family. she is basically creating the environment for Lilly's future, and then embarks on a journey of revenge, justice and ultimately self destruction. had she not exposed and destroyed the Burkett family, they would end up corrupting her daughter. had she not gotten herself killed, she wouldn't become somewhat of a hero, and a mother that Lilly can be proud of in the future - that she actually turns out to be, as she names her daughter Maya. this is why the ending is corny, and this is why, imo, the main actress' acting range and ability broadens towards the end, as we see her true colors and nature, which in essence, is not a good one. but it is the best way for her to make amends.

I was confused. So maya knew that her husband killed her sister but didn’t know why and she didn’t think to question it? And when she saw the nanny cam footage, she knew somebody was messing with her and attempted to act as any rational person who didn’t kill their spouse would act?

@simonl5074

7 ай бұрын

that's a retarded plot just for the shock effect, I was so disappointed with it.

@Rex544-nc6ms

7 ай бұрын

We should have guess she's suspicious that moment only I mean in first episode she's talking about seeing Joe later she simply convinced herself that he's dead without trusting her instincts second all we found out was she was looking for answers about why Claire got killed but she never raised a question who killed Claire at all in show or didn't suspected any one as killer at all. That's all makes sense

Do you recommend any of the other shows by this writer??

@chantel1586

7 ай бұрын

YES! THE STRANGER!

The show could have better if it was about the Burkett faking Joe's death and Joe was alive. But then it turned out to be Maya killing Joe because he killed her sister and that the Burkett is a corrupted family. Idk but the build up to the ending wasn't as satisfying as I thought it would

I kinda guessed the ending at episode 6. I think the acting was great by mich but the ending was like something stupid just like I expected.

Watching it through to the end, it was very underwhelming and left so many plotholes. 5/10 - If the whole time it was Maya and Joe were the killers, why was Maya running around solving something she already knew ? - What was with Shane and the random stalking? - what happened to Joes death certificate in the abandoned will reading? - what was the point of the half-brother story? - How did the nanny know about the nannycam from Mayas friend? - 18 years later and Shane or Sami haven't aged?

Completely disagree. Very very good serirs!!! It's very entertaining as well! And excrllent cast! Enjoyed it very much!!!!

@BrainPilot

4 ай бұрын

That's fair enough!

It was like it was written and produced by a 10 year old. The actors were pretty good but the story has to be one of the worst I’ve seen. Like how did Corey the whistle end up back at his hideout with all his equipment at the end? He was arrested facing loads of charges, also the place he was arrested wasn’t even looked into. The whole series is based around finding out who Joe really is but all you find out is he is a murderer. There’s so many things that don’t make sense and things that didn’t even need to be there.

I am wondering if Maya is actually dead. Hmmm!

@Amber-M-96

7 ай бұрын

I thought the same at first as the gun he shot her with didn't have a clip in it, there could have been 1 in the chamber but he shot her 3 times 😂 big blooper by the show

To those who think it was useless for Maya to investigate Joe’s past, I think it was absolutely necessary to the plot. It proves to Maya that Joe is more than capable of killing anyone

What a crazy ending and unexpected for sure

This movie ended about 20 minutes in. The acting is so insanely awful. The pace is awful, the story telling is lacking. If you liked this movie. You have low low expectations

Can somebody please tell me how her best friend gives her a nanny cam and the burketts just know to hack it? Also Shane just stalking Mia, for what? No reason? So many plot wholes it hurts man.

Man the ending was so sad this was a really good show

...and one small thing: If you would have been a police office who has just been told that an SD card from the picture had been stolen by a nanny, wouldn't you try to find out where the SD was? Wouldn't you ask Isabella what she has to say about Maya's accusation? The show has so many holes... You are Maya. Why would you leave the gun that you had used to kill your husband in your house? You must have heard about forensics... All that Maya's running around pretending that she was looking for a killer was the biggest failure, because there were many times when Maya wasn't trying to find WHY her sister was murdered, making US the only witnesses that she was "looking" for a killer. Or have I missed something big time?

@leetootill5519

6 ай бұрын

I’ve read the book and not watched this on Netflix. The book answers a lot of questions by the look of it. Story makes much more sense.

I enjoyed it thoroughly and for the first time since very long I bingewatched.

I enjoyed the show, but what really gave me the ick was the ending. The casting was all wrong. Lily went from being a blonde-haired white girl to a black haired brown woman.

@lovejoy1016

7 ай бұрын

It happens

nah fam you gotta be joking when you said it was lame... this was great to start the year off

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Fair play! Each to their own

Agreed, the ending was hugely disappointing and unnecessarily schmaltzy. Would have been better to see Maya living her life out in some tropical paradise, having faked her death.

100% agree with your assessment of this show. Exactly how I felt

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you agree!

Who was Lily's baby daddy? The man next to her in hospital was Shane, right? WTH?

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Shane was by the door but there was somebody else further in the room!

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

He was sitting next to her on the bed.

@loobyh6274

7 ай бұрын

No Shane wasn't lily daughter father there was lad similiar age to Lily he is milds to old to be her partner

This show was beyond stupid

Come here because of that comment on tiktok

@cheebadigga4092

16 күн бұрын

oh my god the world is truly gonna end soon

Literally fell in love with Maya.

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

She was a great character!

I laboured through 8 episodes and the acting was subpar at best. I rooted for none of the characters. The ending was extremely underwhelming.

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it was difficult wasn’t it. I thought Keegan delivered her role well but it did just feel like it never really reached the levels of darkness it could have!

Once you know that the lead actress Keegan was in Coronation Street for years then it all begins to make sense - the flat performance, the limited range of facial expressions, the limited range generally, the odd lips. She generally looks like she just stepped out of a low budget magazine shoot, not like an experienced officer with active military front line experience. Hers could have been a really interesting character for a decent actress to get her teeth into. It's a shame really because her casting lets down the rest of it, which ain't half bad. After 2.5 episodes that is. Apart from the comedy junior detective, who is also just implausible & annoying. Suffice to say that I won't be rushing out to buy a Coben novel any time soon. I might make it to the end of episode 8 though. Wish me luck.

How about stop comparing it to other thrillers and let it be what it is. A fun, exciting, and fun show. People like the reviewer are never satisfied these days. Fuck man this was a great 1 season mini series.

What was the point of the show if maya knew joe killed Claire and she killed joe like what was she tryna find out the whole time

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

Exactly lol

@Misscharley92

7 ай бұрын

Joe’s motive

Im not aware of the original works. Are they soapy too or perhaps they become too soapy when adapted due to the directorial choices ?

Whats abt maya's sister has a child ???i know it tricks to us for confusing whos the killer really is but its so unnecessary and also shane also like the stalker who sitting on counch in a house no one invited but anway its great 👍

I feel like some of the show was definitely “filler” and could’ve had more substance to it. I’m over here thinking the rookie cop partner is in on it, or Shane being sketchy with planting the tracking device on the car… It’s like some scenes could’ve been cut.

I enjoyed it. Not the very best of its type , but it kept me guessing , deliberately, I think.

One thing I don’t understand is when she switched the guns how did she do that if she took one with her

@marioseverino7138

7 ай бұрын

Maya let Joe gets the fake gun first then Maya took the real gun.

@Rex544-nc6ms

7 ай бұрын

What i don't get it is why that gun only she took she should have take any other gun n no way she could have get caught to police because same gun killing both only raised questions I think may be she blindly got some agenda to kill her sister killer with same weapon

I disagree, I truly enjoyed the show even though I normally could guess what an ending to a mystery story would be. The twist was good too because the movie made believe the killer was always somebody else except for the main character which has been delivered so many times, and yet it still caught me off guard.

The show had too many plot contrivances regarding the investigation and how people spat every bit of important information with little to no resistance, given the circumstances. The killcount would have been higher if not for these conveniences. But out of all the bad writing, I gotta give this to the actors and their performances. Maya and Sami stole the show during the whole series. Specially Sami: that guy is built different, and the actor behind him should have a lot more screentime in british productions.

I don’t get though that Maya Stern was looking for the person who killed her sister Claire when she killed her husband, because she knew Joe killed Claire

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

Excellent point! So many crazy plot holes...**SPOILER ALERT**Like why was Shane outside her house that time? And how did Judith know Maya had the nanny-cam in order to orchestrate the AI shenanigans when it was her friend that gave it to her. Actually what even happened to her friend? What was the point of her? Was she paid by Judith? And why was older Lily quite Mediterranean looking whilst young Lily had an English rose complexion? Did I miss a memo? Also, who randomly takes a flight student on a sky chase and lands him in a field then runs off leaving him for God know how long and gets NO beef for it from her superiors? Absolute madness!

@spiritfang36aj47

7 ай бұрын

@@missthea5259I get all the plot holes you’ve talked about! But just one thing, my brother had a very white/British complexion when he was first born all the way up to ages 7-9 and then after that my mums genes kicked in and his skin tone became a lot more tanned like mine and was more mediterranean looking.

@missthea5259

7 ай бұрын

@@spiritfang36aj47Yeah you're right. That does happen I just feel that for TV they usually cast similar for similar for child>adult ya know. But thanks for sharing. I bet your mum was loving that! :D So what did you think of the numerous plot holes? ;)

@ulrichk3677

7 ай бұрын

She Was searching, why he killed her.

@Ms.L.

7 ай бұрын

@@ulrichk3677 exactly

Honestly the twist at the end is disappointing…. Kinda ruined the show for me

So was Shane spying on Maya?

@BrainPilot

7 ай бұрын

I think so! But more like ‘looking out for her’ in his own weird way