Food Theory: Wait... Coffee is a SOUP?!
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We found the answer to the age-old question of "Is a hotdog a sandwich?". Now it is time to make another set of people REALLY angry at me. The coffee people to be precise. What question are we answering today? Well, you read the title but for those of you who may have skipped over it - here you go! Is COFFEE actually a SOUP?
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Writers: Matthew Patrick and Justin Kuiper
Editors: Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick and Forrest Lee
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I don't normally comment, but I needed you all to know my disappointment in this episode. -Head Editor Dan
@TGOPoma
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dan!
@demidemiurge1023
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It should be a tea, not a soup.
@karmicgal344
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Head Editor Dan but your wife is _technically_ correct
@mistermanthe4th
2 жыл бұрын
I imagine the worst part of this was knowing you'd have to edit the final verdict, whether or not it matched your opinion.
@cheeselord8153
2 жыл бұрын
@@demidemiurge1023 tea is also soup
Episode Idea: How much cheese would Cheetos need to contain to literally be dangerously cheesy
@fries4me10
2 жыл бұрын
This is frigging genius
@official-obama
2 жыл бұрын
packed beyond the swarzchild radius of cheese
@farhansaber9330
2 жыл бұрын
This is really good I want to see this as a video lmfaooo
@thtotaku
2 жыл бұрын
i mean, if you have cheese powder that's off, it's gonna be a small amount.
@deebo429__
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, a good KZread comment recommendation? I never expected this.
I'd actually contend that coffee is not a fruit-seed soup, but rather a fruit-seed stock, because you filter out the thing that you boiled to make the drink. In soups, you still have solids left behind in the finished product, even if they're pureed, but in coffee, you filter the solids out.
@evangelineallen4541
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's more like a stock or broth, which is often filtered.
@natlieyarbrough4694
Жыл бұрын
Every seed soup example they show has the seeds in the soup!
@butterybiscuit346
Жыл бұрын
Bone broth would be a good example here.
@JackedUpEntertainment
Жыл бұрын
So Iced Coffee is a soup
@msk-qp6fn
11 ай бұрын
I personally call them infusions.
1:07 "DON'T SAY THAT!" already I can tell this is going to be a great episode.
@prince32YT
Жыл бұрын
Ik! It was tho tbh
@msk-qp6fn
11 ай бұрын
Coffee is bean powder infusion
"Amy's chugging her bean broth right now" "DONT SAY THAT!" best moment ever
@SoapiiBFDI
2 жыл бұрын
it's so cursed lmao 💀
@AaronSmith369
Жыл бұрын
I'mma chug some steamy bean juice to celebrate. 😆
@tinamarie9136
Жыл бұрын
1:05
@decmant
Жыл бұрын
@@OMGpowz i got an ad
@LNReallyLikeThat
Жыл бұрын
My mind is so mf dirty bro
The brain storm call at the start is so good. I love seeing the ideation process.
@user-rv7wm9fx8k
2 жыл бұрын
MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4GqvLKPZcTJp9o.html
@user-rv7wm9fx8k
2 жыл бұрын
Ж
@user-ex5zk5cd9j
2 жыл бұрын
Z
@enigma479
2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised I haven’t seen any lyrhero references lol
@krisj5561
2 жыл бұрын
It is obviously fake...
Dan's screams of frustration are the best parts of the episode. Lmao.
Cooler: "Let me tell you a secret, coffee is just bean soup"
@Rockman9830
Жыл бұрын
Stop!
@MusicalLugia
Жыл бұрын
@@Rockman9830 "They hated Cooler beacuse he told the truth!"
@Casandraelf
Жыл бұрын
right??
@thefalcon5204
Жыл бұрын
You made me go watch Lythero take your like and leave.
@xzaeox6397
11 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment XD
I can't believe you totally missed that coffee is a POTION. It's brewed, it has magical properties, and if you found a vial of it in a dungeon you'd have to make a very difficult decision about whether to drink it or not.
@chaotixninja5
2 жыл бұрын
Have you been playing Ni No Kuni?
@raycee412
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@diando19
2 жыл бұрын
There's also the category of "herbal tea".
@mikhailsharon4331
2 жыл бұрын
WHAT!
@meepnope4389
2 жыл бұрын
I’d choose no, but who knows that might be the death of me 💀
8:30 "Don't believe everything you see on TikTok, friends." Don't worry matPat, I don't even believe literally anything I see on TikTok.
@user-lk2ex7ng8r
2 жыл бұрын
арарра
@user-lk2ex7ng8r
2 жыл бұрын
жжжжж
@DestructiveRonny
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-lk2ex7ng8r wat
@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife
2 жыл бұрын
true. some stuff may be true, but there's a lot of misinformation on the app. it's hard to know exactly what's true without checking it on the internet.
@LuckyAnomaly
2 жыл бұрын
our video tastes align a little too much
I cannot believe I just watched a video about whether or not coffee was a soup or not. AND IT MADE SENSE!!
MatPat you have enough resources and shows to fill an entire cable network. It's amazing how much your channel has grown over the years.
@raychwagner3657
Ай бұрын
I would honest-to-God pay a month streaming subscription if it was just these channels
I like how Mat doesn't bother adding that this explanation automatically proves that Tea is also soup.
@Floofel.
2 жыл бұрын
Leaf soup.
@Carbon-cringe-human
Жыл бұрын
What to you mean "also"
@loganwolv3393
Жыл бұрын
@@Carbon-cringe-human It means that soup isn't just made out of well vegetable liquid extract and cofee seed extract but is also made of leaf extract wich is commonly refered as tea.
@acegamer9347
Жыл бұрын
“This tea is nothing more than hot leaf juice!”
@bookworm0414
Жыл бұрын
@@acegamer9347 "Uncle, that's what all tea is."
I love how when MattPatt heard that tiktokers were making mash-potatoes out of chips, he isn’t even surprised, he just laughs & says “Of course they are”
@kitkat25195
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, TikToks these days…
@jaseph_1989
2 жыл бұрын
@@benito23453 bruh moment
@dinkle._.berry3597
2 жыл бұрын
"how miserable"
@chancestewart3915
2 жыл бұрын
havent they done that episode before ?
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
2 жыл бұрын
Well. Yes. The bar is low.
Dan took this personally. Even in the call he was ready throw hands through the screen 😂
Okay- but hear me out. If a tomato is a fruit, is ketchup a smoothie?
@user-aeb87825
2 ай бұрын
It's jam
As a barista, I'm more partial to the idea that it's a potion. It''s brewed and is magical because it grants the drinker the strength to go about their day
@monroerobbins7551
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I like that more. Plus, it has side effects!
@littlecherryartist
Жыл бұрын
are potions a soup?
@PromethealBee
Жыл бұрын
@@littlecherryartist dont- i- cannot handle it anymore 😰
@NotSoNormal1987
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Magic bean water
@rrownn
Жыл бұрын
YES. It would so be a potion omg how did I never think of this!
Imagine going to Starbucks and asking, "Can I have some fruit-seed soup?"
@maenad1231
2 жыл бұрын
*Fruit-seed soup
@imawesomeisaac
2 жыл бұрын
@@maenad1231 thanks bro
@MySongBird278
2 жыл бұрын
"May I have a fruit-seed soup? Dark roast please, thank you :D"
@goldenwarrior1186
2 жыл бұрын
@@maenad1231 what’d it say before
@Igorcastrochucre
2 жыл бұрын
"Sigh, that guy made a new vídeo, didn't he?"
Watching Dan get so upset at mat calling Amy's coffee "bean broth" makes me laugh every single time
I'm more often than not impressed by the sheer quality of the science in any given episode. It's very pleasing and gets my brain started in the best way possible. The "simple" jokes you usually make are excellent and always fit, never taking away from your point you're trying to make... This episode made me roll out of my chair laughing so hard at, "DON'T SAY THAT" Legitimately, I was laughing so hard, the video had played to almost the midpoint before I finally got a hold of myself. I gladly restarted from where I left off...
You know…I was expecting “Is cereal a soup” on this channel someday, but I’ve got to admit this is better.
@JustLetMeUseNPC
2 жыл бұрын
Cereal is soup. Change my mind!
@dungeontnt
2 жыл бұрын
Cereal is a soup
@eugenekrabs141
2 жыл бұрын
@@JustLetMeUseNPC soups are hot, cereal is cold, soup is boiled, cereal is not, based off mats definition it isent
@cislife7140
2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenekrabs141 what about those cold soups gazpacho?
@coachmcguirk6297
2 жыл бұрын
@@cislife7140 it's cooked and then chilled before serving.
I already knew this because any proper food theorist already knows that everything is soup.
@kallocarina8879
2 жыл бұрын
If it's not a sandwich, it's a soup
@aidschbe
2 жыл бұрын
@@kallocarina8879 Unless it's bread, in which case it could be cake.
@miguelangelowong6786
2 жыл бұрын
Wait... it's all soup?
@mariomaster101official
2 жыл бұрын
True
@Soviet.onion.
2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelangelowong6786 _always have been_
My sister and I have a road trip game where we work to identify 73 distinct soups without looking anything up by the time we arrive at our destination, ( it was inspired by an incredibly strange license plate we saw) and I’m DEFINITELY using coffee next time
Let me tell you a secret, Coffee is just bean soup!
@coolsteve3214
10 ай бұрын
They hated Cooler because he told the truth
@imao15
4 ай бұрын
EATING *BEANS* I SEE
So, instead of calling coffee "burnt boiled brown bean broth" like I used to, I should start calling it "scorched simmered sepia seed soup?"
@Blasted2Oblivion
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like calling it "coffee" would be easier but you do you.
@benrompen7100
2 жыл бұрын
It can't be sepia unless you're putting squid/cuttlefish ink into it.
@FuryMcpurey
2 жыл бұрын
@@benrompen7100 sepia is also a color.
@SoggyCoffeeAddict
2 жыл бұрын
Dirty soggy bean stock
@lacytaylor1501
2 жыл бұрын
'Dirty bean water' will always be my go to.
I would love to see a crossover of this and the "the ocean is a soup" argument lol
@pkmnmasters2842
2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeesss
@lathyrusloon
Жыл бұрын
I have indeed heard people refer to the ocean as a soup.
@anoyint
Жыл бұрын
The ocean is inedible so no, not a soup.
@triparadox.c
Жыл бұрын
@@anoyint It is edible just once
@ianluk6385
Жыл бұрын
@@anoyint the ocean is, technically, edible. Is it palatable? Probably not, especially if you don't prepare that seafood in some manner, but it is technically edible.
I haven't watched the rest of the video, but it was neat to peak behind the scenes at game/food/film theory.
You need to do more intro skits like the zoom call rather than the animated puns, that was just pure gold ❤❤
as a trained cook: Coffee is closer to a broth then it is a soup. just like when making a turkey or bone soup you remove the material that gives the water its color and flavor. this is a important distinction.
@leeeshizzy4296
2 жыл бұрын
so ice coffee is a soup
@ethanlewis5750
2 жыл бұрын
@@leeeshizzy4296 I can agree to that
@SamWulfign
2 жыл бұрын
This is the issue I have with matt, chasing the description with this one. As a food channel should also be taking into account culinary knowledge, it would be more a broth because broth is a igredient for soup, and soup is a food of which you use ingredients to derive sustance for the body, technically you could live only on soup. But only Broth... it's hard to say, I'd say probably no, which is the same for coffee in this regard, you can't live only on coffee. And if that is still a issue.... could just simply call it a brew, which is boiled ingredients that is used to hydrate rather then sustain a body.
@LR_Bushido
2 жыл бұрын
Except if you add creamer and other things to it I don't think it would fall under a broth anymore
@SamWulfign
2 жыл бұрын
@@LR_Bushido It still would, as broth has other ingredients that is used to make a Base, Broth/Stock is also another word for Soup Base which is basically a foundation to prepare soup. The key takeaway here is whether it is food or not.
In Poland we have "kompot". It is a beverage made from boiling fruits in water. Fruits are then removed, add sugar and you have "kompot". I think this fits your description of coffee better than soup.
@thelolim___ster
2 жыл бұрын
same in Russia
@kitkat25195
2 жыл бұрын
… Wow. We don’t.
@lonergothonline
2 жыл бұрын
in england, its a compote, which seems like a french word to me. so compoté maybe?
@meercreate
2 жыл бұрын
A little bit further east, and they usually leave the fruits in
@ahumanbeing7426
2 жыл бұрын
@@meercreate yeah and we call it komposto (or hoşaf) in turkey lol I didn't know it had a similar name in other countries though
i love the intro, please more of the pitch meetings
Matpat should make a new channel where he just posts behind the scenes of different videos. They could put stuff like the research, the meetings, etc.
You forgot to mention the classification of an "infusion", or what's commonly called a "tea" Soup is very specifically eaten, whereas the remaining broth or infusion is then drank or discarded. But that's the thing. The liquid component is often an infusion, either of meat or bone, or of an herbal source. But just as coffee isn't a puree, so to is it not a soup.
@loreleihillard5078
2 жыл бұрын
It's a tisane
@isabellagust6305
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
@kommandantgalileo
2 жыл бұрын
So coffee is a Tea?
@LokiScarletWasHere
2 жыл бұрын
@@kommandantgalileo Yes.
@adinjennings5413
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying Coffee is tea for years and my friends still think I’m crazy
"Let me tell you a secret, coffee is just bean soup." - Cooler, they hated him because he told the truth
@kavukkii
2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it, you heathen.
@NotMeCuh74
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jm6qe6sz2p 🧢🗿
@heartlessnobody1143
2 жыл бұрын
-Ah lythero! my favorite Voice actor!- Ah Zyzx_! my favorite side character!
@zionfultz8495
2 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION, it isn't bean soup it is seed soup
@MineCreeperLPs
2 жыл бұрын
@@heartlessnobody1143 Wrong that was Zyzx_ It was in a Lythero video.
EATING BEANS I SEE!?!? Let me tell you a secret, Coffee is just bean soup.
@simpboi6835
Жыл бұрын
i was looking for this.
@chrismayer3919
Жыл бұрын
It’s a SEED soup!! (But yes, still a soup)
I cannot express the happy inside of my being when episodes like this come out lol I LOVE when you get to blows people’s minds with stuff like this or the sandwich episode or even what makes a fruit a fruit lol
We recently had a discussion over the difference between sandwiches, hotdogs, tacos, cereals, soups, and salads in my AP physics class.This video is very timely.
@chris-p5013
2 жыл бұрын
just took the ap physics 2 test last friday - how was urs?
@kthrnas
2 жыл бұрын
friend's AP physics class often has discussions over whether cereal is a soup or whether cheesecake is a pie. interesting how it's always that class that has the weirdest food debates!
Well I was expecting a cereal-soup theory but… coffe?
@v.crowley
2 жыл бұрын
Already discussed cereal-soup .. it's not.. because cereal doesn't involve cooking
@FlowerMcBoi
2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting
@malym9494
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@malym9494
2 жыл бұрын
@Zis co bot
@malym9494
2 жыл бұрын
@@benito23453 bot
I love the meeting intro. Please post more of those!
I love how Dan in the beginning was like don’t say that! I was laughing so hard from that
I loved that opening, seeing how theory videos are made is so interesting
What are alternative “milks” then? Almond “milk”? Soy “milk”? Oat “milk”? Are they also soup? You grind the seeds/nuts/beans with water and then strain out the grinds to consume the broth, just like coffee. So are they also soup?
@majesticsnowleopard
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@benito23453
2 жыл бұрын
Ж
@maelissakluckman2890
2 жыл бұрын
i propose coffee isnt soup its tea and i think non dairy milks are also tea
@Spade1350
2 жыл бұрын
Juice or smoothie depending on the milk alternative. Coffee is also definitely a tea and not a soup.
@wyrdvora
2 жыл бұрын
Coffee is a milk alternative 👍
I feel like this is less of a food theory and more of a food clarification and that opening was so excellent. So well edited.
8:47 to keep it chilled
botanically, a coffee fruit ("coffee cherry") is categorized as "drupe" or "stone fruit". it thus falls into the same botanical category as the cherry, mango, prune and apricot.
@phoneguy4637
2 жыл бұрын
@@megadog9305 wrong. a berry doesn't have inner seed chambers like the coffee fruit does. a berry is filled with fruit flesh in which the seeds freely "swim". the coffee fruit has as good as no fruit flesh, but rather hides two seed chambers with a pair of seeds ("stones") inside, making it a drupe. in the wild, coffee fruits often contain only one seed, having two or more is a result of modern selection and breeding. please do your homework.
@ARandomStan
2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of Jordan Schalnsky? Look him up I think you'll love him
@PetesGuide
2 жыл бұрын
So it’s a bisque?
The problem with the "fruit seed soups" is that the seeds are all consumed in the examples. In that respect, it's closer to a broth than a soup. But somebody else commented and it's far more correct to a term that applies to both tea and coffee. Infusion. We are drinking an extract, which is not a soup.
@anothergol
2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say infusion as well, and turns out it's only half correct, it only applies to one method of making coffee, and not the most common one.
@jypsridic
2 жыл бұрын
The correct term is either decoction if you're classic or extraction if you're modern.
@professionalsleeper6281
2 жыл бұрын
A broth is a soup tho
@Boundless-Boredom
2 жыл бұрын
@@professionalsleeper6281 a broth alone is no soup. It is the base to a soup
@josephcalabro2487
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of teas, but those only come from the Camellia sinensis plant, so I thought that coffee could be classified as a tisane or infusion like you said.
11:02 Gotta get that Egussy Soup
10:13 the agony in his scream
I feel like "tea" would be a more apt definition, seeing as tea is made by soaking the parts of a plant in water: "leaves, roots, etc" And some teas ARE made with the seeds of a plant rather than the more common components. edit: Also fruit soups generally end with those seeds still floating around, whereas coffee is filtered through the "beans" but never actually contain the seeds themselves.
@kyoxtohru112
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and teas and coffees usually are classified together cause they both are extractions from plant products. Honestly the closest thing on the list given was broth, cause with the seed soups they still have the seeds in them. Either chunky or ground finely to a puree with hot liquid added to make it filling.
@Sam-rj2qn
2 жыл бұрын
So is coffee tea or tea a coffee?
@tanyacarbajal3597
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I expected him to cover this information and end in tea as the answer But I feel he stopped investigating and cut the video short.
@Merennulli
2 жыл бұрын
By the mental gymnastics of this episode, tea would either be a soup or broth in MatPat's book. I think it's safe to say the crux of this episode was choosing to ignore that it's served as a beverage under the flimsy argument that part of some soups can be drunk...specifically the broth...which he ruled out coffee being... Nothing wrong with it as entertainment, but this is "Sans is Ness" level theorizing.
@mongoose9851
2 жыл бұрын
@@tanyacarbajal3597 Coffee is a type of tea. Tea can't be coffee because coffee only comes from coffee beans, while tea can come from an endless variety of plants.
Just to be clear, there is coffee gravy. It's called red-eye gravy. Made with coffee and (most often) ham and made primarily in the southern US.
@user-lk2ex7ng8r
2 жыл бұрын
жжжжж
@charlie_claire_comedy
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man red-eye gravy is good
The "DON'T SAY THAT" kind of caught me off guard
"DON'T SAY THAT!" Golden Moment! I literally rolled off my bed, laughing.
*Extracted "coffee juice" would actually sound like the healthiest alternative to what I have right now since they don't have to always follow the laws of carton juice*
as a note: Turkish coffee DOES actually contain the ground coffee... and while you dont ingest all the sludge at the bottom of the cup, you do eat some. its also best seasoned with cardamom
@JaceArmek
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else noticed that.
@eagleleft
2 жыл бұрын
so then turkish coffee is a puree?
@eyal01245
2 жыл бұрын
Turkish coffee is commonly referred to as "mud coffee" and i hate it
@gapetheapegod7976
2 жыл бұрын
@@eyal01245 Turkish coffee or it being called mud coffee
@Tenshi6Tantou6Rei
2 жыл бұрын
it is a puree
I honestly love the insight into the theory processes, i would love to see more discussion stuff like that!! (Even post episode releases!!)
Gotta love the delay in the phone call before Dan get’s mad at “bean broth”
The problem with calling it soup is there's typically something in soup other than just flavored water. Like your example of tomato soup, it's generally pureed tomatoes with seasonings, not water that's had a tomato briefly in it. You know, that's a wonderful idea for an episode. You and Steph can try tomato soup made like coffee. 4 minutes of mashed tomato in some hot water that's ran through a coffee filter to take out every bit of solids. Coffee is not soup. Coffee is an infusion, which is an option you neglected to mention. Tea is also an infusion.
@FriendB
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly! I was looking for this!
@mmnnnnnmmnnnmnmn6067
2 жыл бұрын
The best kind of correct
@heyspookyboogie644
2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly the way I was looking at it too. I’m amazed they completely left tea out of the discussion when that’s the closest comparison to coffee. I’m still not convinced they got this one.
@darladay4766
2 жыл бұрын
It's a broth, which is a soup
@Ketharuil
2 жыл бұрын
IT'S BROTH
6:18 "I prefer the IV bags!" BRO NO I CANT IM DEAD.
@davejrgraham8988
2 жыл бұрын
IV dripped of coffee
I truly wish my 83 year old grandma lived long enough so I could argue with her about the validity of coffee being a soup it would've been good times..
@abha9002
5 ай бұрын
Same thing with me and my Grandpa, this seems like exactly the thing we would debate about over breakfast
This is my most favorite theory of all time! Discussions in your meeting must be so fun!
It’s official! Dan is my favorite member of Team Theorist! He is seriously hilarious, especially when it comes to ‘absurd comedy’. Not that I didn’t find him funny before this (he was my favorite part of the Tootsie Pop and Mountain Dew episodes), but the recording booth scene cemented his position as my favorite.
@theoutsiderjess4869
2 жыл бұрын
He was my favorite after he took over for Mattpatt when he was sick
@TylerNovakYT
2 жыл бұрын
He has his own YT channel called ThatCybertChannel
@michaelnelson1127
2 жыл бұрын
@@TylerNovakYT Don’t worry; I’ve been subscribed to his channel for years.
Not all coffee is boiled/simmered - you’re leaving out cold-press. Isn’t coffee most similar to tea? If so, I think tea is a fundamental enough category to need no further reduction. Otherwise tea is soup too.
@jonathanodude6660
2 жыл бұрын
nope, tea is a specific category. it always refers to leaves, and it often refers specifically to the leaves of the tea tree. youre probably thinking of an infusion which was debated in a higher comment.
@zhazan42
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanodude6660 Raspberry Hibiscus tea would like to have a word with your manager.
@jonathanodude6660
2 жыл бұрын
@@zhazan42 “often”
@mr.bennett108
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanodude6660 Wrong. If you take dried mushrooms and boil them to reconstitution, the left-over liquid is called "mushroom tea." However, because the bean is roasted, not dried, it's probably more accurately classified as a "liquor" than a tea.
@dmark8993
2 жыл бұрын
@@zhazan42 doesn't tea have a lot of variation like herbal tea,fruit tea etc.???
Greggs in England found a legal tax loophole because 'Hot food' has a higher tax band than 'cold food' and even cooked foods put on unheated shelves (such as bread) count as 'cold food' so they get around the rule by heating the display counter when empty, turning the heater off before opening the shop and putting the freshly baked foods in the (hot but no longer heated) display counter it stays warm without actually heating the food, so it can be sold as 'cold' at a lower tax band.
came back to rewatch the beginning of this video. It's hilarious & I love it.
Regarding soup as a beverage, I actually drink tomato soup out of a mug every morning as part of my breakfast.
@kitkat25195
2 жыл бұрын
Yo me too at night!
@AmyraCarter
2 жыл бұрын
Yum.
0:09 the fact that this is a normal work conversation for them
I watched the intro in .25 speed, and I just realized how much effort is put into that intro. Great job for whoever made it!
I love that behind the scenes stuff at the beginning
While I haven’t watched the full video yet, I do have several other questions along the lines of the title- Is cereal a grain salad? Is ketchup a jam?
@drewe2331
2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot more to unwrap on that ketchup question. Historically ketchups are sauces made but preserving something in vinegar. Mushroom ketchup was very popular for a long time. What we eat is tomato ketchup. What CAN be posited is that mustard is ketchup.
@KrepsyK
2 жыл бұрын
Yes? I think?
@pressplayulysses
2 жыл бұрын
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
@topazlynx2228
2 жыл бұрын
Well that is a good question, is Ketchup a jam? Cause if it is that means there is a jam I like.
@belmontparkers
2 жыл бұрын
Jams are just Jellies with seeds. Jams/Jellies are mashed or pureed fruits mixed with sugar and pectin/gelatin and then left to thicken into a mass of wobbly rigidity. Ketchup is missing the pectin/gelatin and flows... so no.
6:07 Dan: I appreciate the advice but I'm not gonna listen to it Me: Seems like something I'd say
THEORY IDEA: Are products that contain coffee (energy shots, candy bars, other things like that) as effective as a cup of coffee? I ask because I’ve had the Kit-Kat Mocha duos and have felt the effects as one would after a cup of coffee (which is odd because caffeine doesn’t wake me up, yay ADD) so I wonder if it’s really something about the coffee that can just be put into ANYTHING and it have the same effect.
That intro was gold
Mat: "Amy's chuggin' her *bean broth* right now" Dan: And I took that personally. Edit: Wow, I just looked back at this from like 4 months ago and it has 1.3k likes. Uhm.. thanks! A lot!
@blockhead3585
Жыл бұрын
im not liking because this has 696 likes
@nerdyfoxes8000
Жыл бұрын
@@blockhead3585 Should've stopped at 666 likes tho. Or just 69. A shame, a shame
@baysingerfam4
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to ruin it and be the 700th like
@nerdyfoxes8000
Жыл бұрын
@@baysingerfam4 Excellent
@jmurray1110
Жыл бұрын
Let’s go to 6969
Infusion: "a liquid extract... prepared by steeping or soaking." Infuse: "to steep or soak (leaves, bark, roots, etc.) in a liquid so as to extract the soluble properties or ingredients." Coffee is an infusion. Not a soup.
@alexhutchins6161
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. This comment should be the number 1 putting and end to this video.
@reychiu2581
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be both?
@alexhutchins6161
2 жыл бұрын
@@reychiu2581 if it is soup. Does that mean all kinds of coffee are soup
@alexhutchins6161
2 жыл бұрын
@@reychiu2581 is cold brew soup. Is instant coffee soup. If instant coffee is soup then wouldn't that mean things like Gatorade ate soup. While the definition of soup can work on some types of coffee. The most common one for sure. It does not include all kinds of coffee. So when 2 does work. We choose the one that works the best. And if one does not work all the time then it is not the best.
@alexhutchins6161
2 жыл бұрын
@@reychiu2581 how would you define soup to include instant coffee?
‘Technically correct: the best kind of correct’ How has Matpat never done a Futurama episode on Film Theory. Is Fry a secret genius? Is Planet Express Delivery Service actually profitable? So many cool ideas!
I love that you showed the meeting, I wish you did it more ;-;
Quick point of order around the 9:28 mark - what you're considering "normal, rational" coffee is very limited in scope and not universal. There are many different ways to prepare coffee that still include the grounds in the final drink. Have you ever had Turkish-style coffee brewed in a cezve? Because the grounds are extremely fine and still in the pot while poured and served, the resulting brew is thicker and richer (especially with the foam, quite similar to the crema you get with espresso) than you get with drip coffee. It's closer to a puree than a soup.
@edim108
2 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment that. There are so many ways to prepare coffee and the "normal, rational" way of running hot water through ground coffee beans in a coffee filter is a very modern invention and robs coffee of much of its flavor. Been to Istanbul a couple years ago and had the best cup of coffee in my life! It was so much more than that coffee bean flavored water that comes out of a filter... And supposedly it's good for your health bc you're actually drinking some of the ground seeds which contain a lot of minerals and vitamin.
Wouldn't it technically be tea? I mean tea would also have to be soop by this logic, but like you said soop is a word to describe food, not a beverage. But we already have a word for making hot beverages by putting in stuff for only flavor, and taking it out before consumption: tea
@talesoftableiii1584
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of this, but I think that tea technically has to be made with leaves. I could be wrong about that, but I think no. Though I will say that Infusion would work better than soup imo.
@TheCowboyMartyr
2 жыл бұрын
dawg had two chances and didn’t spell it right either time lmao
@TroublesomeOwl
2 жыл бұрын
No .. tea is made with tea leaves. there are a lot of things that masquerade as "tea". most of the herbal teas are not really tea, but would fall under the same category as coffee does.
@maximelepage7664
2 жыл бұрын
Tea is made with tea leaves. Herbal tea are not tea same as coffee isn't tea. The 3 of them are infusion though. The big question that needed to be addressed in that episode is "are all infusion soups?"
@berryman5145
2 жыл бұрын
Like tea, coffee is an infusion, but no, I don't think coffe is tea.
I come back to this opener so many times. I don't know which is better: Dan angrily screaming "Don't say that!" or Tom and Jason just sitting quietly and enjoying the chaos
The taxonomic meaning of "bean" doesn't matter in normal speech. Coffee is bean soup, or ladybugs and bees aren't bugs.
“légume” is literally French for “vegetable”, so it’s weird that it’s specifically a name for beans. Coffee being a soup makes sense, but the biggest difference is the filtration. You don’t use a filter for soups.
@zhazan42
2 жыл бұрын
You might, especially when you're skimming raw bone broth at home through something like a cheese cloth. I always thought of coffee more as a type of tea!
@crazysasha1374
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the French word for the word "legume" MatPat is using here is "légumineuse", which as you can see shares the same root-word.
@nienke7713
2 жыл бұрын
@Marcus W bone BROTH, not soup
@nienke7713
2 жыл бұрын
and if it doesn't use tea leafs it ain't tea, no matter how many people misuse it
@mikeallevesque18
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, a legume in French is légumineuses and is plural by default.
Two things: 1.Coffee is a fruit seed liquid extract, but 2."Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is understanding that it doesn't belong in a fruit-salad" Or we could just call it a brew. Beer, tea and coffee among other various concoctions of the boil and bubble variety.
@M_S_Blanc
2 жыл бұрын
I've always been told point 2, but I've been thinking lately... Tomato is botanically a fruit. A mango is a known fruit, and so is a pineapple. Peaches too. And Jalapeños are also botanically fruits. I would argue that a salsa IS a fruit salad! That's actually another episode idea: "Is salsa a fruit salad?"
@carpdog42
2 жыл бұрын
Ahh bit Charisma is being able to convince your friends that tomatoes are actually an even more traditional component of fruit salad than they are familiar with.
@LokiScarletWasHere
2 жыл бұрын
Charisma is the ability to sell a tomato-based fruit salad
@jeandevine7835
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, tomatoes do belong in a fruit salad if the fruits being used are what we normally call vegetables, but they have seeds and are technically fruits. 😉😁
@paulblichmann2791
2 жыл бұрын
Akxschually...if the tomatoes are really really ripe cherry tomatoes, it could be quite delicious.
You guys should do an episode on the hydrating / dehydrating effects of differing caffeine content of coffee, and prove whether it hydrates you more or less than the counteracting diuretic effect.
@NotSoNormal1987
Жыл бұрын
I've gone days and weeks without anything but coffee and caffinated soda. If it was dehydrating I'd be dead by now.
As a 6 year barista, this just fills me with joy. all my customers technically slurp up my seed soup. that sounds so wrong and i love it.
Since the only hiccup this theory is that the word "soup" is commonly used to describe food and not beverage, I would say coffee is a lot more similar to tea. In fact, some coffee brands even sell coffee grounds in little baggies for you to brew as you would tea. Besides, most soups typically needs to have more than 2 ingredients to be called "soup". Maybe "broth" is a much closer comparison (also, one "sips" both coffee and broth, while soup is "eaten" or "slurped"). To me though, coffee is a "fruit-seed tea". Maybe Dan is right. But hey, that's just a theory...A COMMENT SECTION THEORY...aaaaaaaand *click*
@justinwhite2725
2 жыл бұрын
Tea requires tea leaves. Herbal tea requires herbs. Coffee seeds are neither.
@demetrian7856
2 жыл бұрын
Well tea can also be classified as a soup, so I don't get this point.
@lennaerthondelink7374
2 жыл бұрын
Nah I be drinking my soup
@dinamosflams
2 жыл бұрын
also with soup you never filter them and eat the content/ingredients that were used aswell and, as matt straight up said, people don't ever eat the paste that was used to make the coffee
@patax144
2 жыл бұрын
yeah in spanish we have this term, "agua aromatica" aromatic water, we use it when we talk about hot beverages based off fruits, and herbs, and whatever might aromatize the water, for me tea and coffee are part of that group, but because of their extra popularity they have their own label.
I don’t know about you but I would love to see more team Game Theory zoom call bloopers, it’s just a really interesting concept
spiff's chat: IS COFFEE SOUP OR TEA???? +insert arguing and calm debating+ matpat: here you go, an answer.
As someone who works for a popular coffee shop, it would be great for marketing if we rebranded as a soup shack!
Hey, heres an idea: you should do "The Mini Theorists" Where you answer not a big question, just a lot of mini theories that's requested by the community about any subject.
I've had "coffee fruit" before, when I lived in Indonesia, it actually tastes good, so I was a bit surprised that the "coffee juice" failed. Also in Indonesia, kopi tubruk, coffee made with superfine grounds, have the grounds left in the cup to settle on the bottom. I assume many other cultures do the same.
@Zarvain
2 жыл бұрын
In the United State's "old west" times that was how coffee would be made, just add grounds to boiled water and drink the gritty mess down. If memory serves I had a (late) uncle who insisted on doing this. I think he was just weird but to each there own, not like I am drink a brew of muddy water.
@anonymousse4138
2 жыл бұрын
Ever had turkish coffe
@avoidant560
2 жыл бұрын
Kopi luwak is good.
0:48 who's gonna tell him slurp and drink are synonyms
I love how many references are in the intro!
Food Theory Idea: My family and I have recently discovered that Cadbury's Dairy Milk chocolate tastes different depending on what country you buy it from. We tried it with Australian chocolate vs South African chocolate. Australian chocolate tastes like it has more sugar, while South African chocolate tastes like it has more coco. I would be interested to know why this is the case, and if it's the same in other countries.
@araara6388
2 жыл бұрын
It’s because of food regulations and where the chocolate was made
@zwelinzima5134
2 жыл бұрын
@@araara6388 Ahhhhh okay. Interesting, where did you find this, I'm curious?
@araara6388
Жыл бұрын
@@zwelinzima5134 becuase of local distabutioning and i used to work at a stockware house for a food retailer in australia
@zwelinzima5134
Жыл бұрын
@@araara6388 ohhhh okay, that's really cool!
Nothing specifically to do with this episode, I just wanted to say that you can do all the kitchen segments as many times as you want. It's fun seeing the process live and having Steph in an episode is always a delight.
@jmurray1110
Жыл бұрын
The bill may be an issue
@L16htW4rr10r
Жыл бұрын
And the prep time for it
Me watching this while drinking my coffee: *mumbles to coffee* "imposter..."
I want to see more of the cold open! I almost feel like you guys could have a Podcast of just discussing video ideas
Actually when I was young, 20-25 years ago. We use coffee as soup sometimes when we don't have anything else besides our rice here in the Philippines. Rice then mixed with hot coffee. It's actually good.
@Guevonas0
2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Im interested. There ita a name for that dish. I use coffe for a lot of dishes. But never this way. Sounds like something i would like to try
@allanmasanegra9523
2 жыл бұрын
True! Filipino here!
It was actually really entertaining to see how you all come up with ideas. I wonder if there’s anyway you could incorporate posting highlights of those videos more often
@RosheenQuynh
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
Best Food Theory opening.
Mat pat comes with the crazyest ideas