Fog of War Chess | GM Hikaru's First Ever Game

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GM Hikaru Nakamura learns how to play Fog of War vs IM Levy Rozman
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  • @GMHikaru
    @GMHikaru3 жыл бұрын

    The speedrun vs the bots is over on my second channel - you guys have been so supportive on this one, please go give it some love, thumbs up, subs, etc. Thanks!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2iMuaiHitDTmto.html

  • @susankaranam3090

    @susankaranam3090

    3 жыл бұрын

    Okkkk...

  • @skridalthcrevasse2388

    @skridalthcrevasse2388

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Hikaru Nakamura, when doing mental calculations of plausible/possible lines, do you mentally visualize the chess pieces in 2-Dimensional form, as is the case for numerous virtual chess games, or in 3-Dimensional form, as is the case for in-person gameplay?

  • @becalm23

    @becalm23

    3 жыл бұрын

    Levi seeing Hikaru's side right?

  • @smithsmitherson9449

    @smithsmitherson9449

    3 жыл бұрын

    a

  • @yosefzaghi9504

    @yosefzaghi9504

    3 жыл бұрын

    500th like

  • @zhandrmax740
    @zhandrmax7403 жыл бұрын

    The funniest fact, that when you hang your piece, your opponent might think that it is protected from the fog. So some risky moves can be strong in differnt cases

  • @johnk3841

    @johnk3841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @johnk3841

    @johnk3841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Though usually people trade when they see a piece unless they're capturing with the queen or rook then they'll be more hesitant

  • @kockoklosharcheto

    @kockoklosharcheto

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bluffing in chess

  • @meepmeep3874

    @meepmeep3874

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they talked about exactly this in the video.

  • @googane7755

    @googane7755

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean if you're trading a bishop or a knight for any of their pieces you're usually fine in most cases. Would be more worried about queens though

  • @sagov9
    @sagov93 жыл бұрын

    "I lost because you didn't play the right move, why are you so bad at this game."

  • @wiselettuce8715

    @wiselettuce8715

    3 жыл бұрын

    The classic toxic super GM kekw

  • @mcpartridgeboy

    @mcpartridgeboy

    3 жыл бұрын

    naa man, happens in poker all the time, its legit reasoning, you literally can win because and only because you played badly, now that deoesnt mean playing badly is a good strategy because it isnt in the long term.

  • @sagov9

    @sagov9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mcpartridgeboy well unless you reason that playing 'badly' in a certain situation will mislead the opponent in a way that makes him lose, then it's not playing badly.

  • @mcpartridgeboy

    @mcpartridgeboy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sagov9 It is definatly playing badly in poker , its just you need to ajust for that, like in poker when your playing bad players its pretty simple you just wait for good cards and value bet, maybe not semi blind chess but its hard to believe a solid game plan is worse than a goofy move.

  • @sagov9

    @sagov9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mcpartridgeboy You're missing my point. If you know how the opponent thinks, you can use 'suboptimal' play to mislead him. It's a valid strategy in games like this and poker, and not 'goofy' at all.

  • @h3ms
    @h3ms3 жыл бұрын

    In this game, psychology is more important than tactics.

  • @meowmeow1786

    @meowmeow1786

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep exactly it yeah.

  • @GaussianEntity

    @GaussianEntity

    3 жыл бұрын

    Eh I say LOS is everything. Not having sight in this game is the equivalent of death.

  • @toshikosatoru8483

    @toshikosatoru8483

    3 жыл бұрын

    this should be another version of poker.

  • @doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032

    @doyouknowkeplertwentytwob4032

    3 жыл бұрын

    Psychology is the most important part of true tactics. Asymmetrical information ftw

  • @ethangilworth7891

    @ethangilworth7891

    3 жыл бұрын

    Simply not true

  • @joshboy88420
    @joshboy884203 жыл бұрын

    Watching masters of chess playing this game is hilarious. Years of devotion and training out the window in a way no other version of the game has ever done.

  • @Jjb-gk4ce

    @Jjb-gk4ce

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chess960 will throw that training out the window too

  • @Pharoic

    @Pharoic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jjb-gk4ce 960 eventually simplifies into a *relatively* normal game after trading. It throws things off in the openings, but you still have full info of the opponent's moves. This forces them to think about the whole game differently.

  • @RAGEN99

    @RAGEN99

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about 5D chess

  • @kissanoita255

    @kissanoita255

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is actually 5D chess, but if you look it at that way normal chess is 3D

  • @doommaker4000

    @doommaker4000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kissanoita255 Is it really? I mean, you do play on a time axis, but there is no such wacky things you can do with timelines.

  • @PossumMedic
    @PossumMedic3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru: "Why do you suck so bad?!?" Levy: *wins Twice* xD

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @aryanprakash1048
    @aryanprakash10483 жыл бұрын

    “The capture sound still exists. Otherwise it does not.” -Levy 2020

  • @rhettzkie

    @rhettzkie

    3 жыл бұрын

    This sounds like agadmator quote. 😂

  • @aryanprakash1048

    @aryanprakash1048

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rhettzkie Sure does haha. Agadmator's best moments.

  • @wcg3928

    @wcg3928

    3 жыл бұрын

    Levy* not Levi Ackerman from AoT

  • @aryanprakash1048

    @aryanprakash1048

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wcg3928 oh I got autocorrected lol

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414
    @itwasinthispositionerinoag74143 жыл бұрын

    This is a cool variant, not even gonna try and wrap my head around the strategy involved but it seems like bishops should be OP due to their scoping ability

  • @AayushSaxena07

    @AayushSaxena07

    3 жыл бұрын

    And knights too because of their unique moving pattern without getting visible

  • @ernestrobinson8441

    @ernestrobinson8441

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, seems like a good strategy would be to fianchetto both bishops and keep rooks on open files to maximize visibility.

  • @remussayed1007

    @remussayed1007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fianchetto hippo position seems to be the best opening position.

  • @egor6946

    @egor6946

    3 жыл бұрын

    Remus Sayed maybe with more active knights

  • @kekwe3088

    @kekwe3088

    3 жыл бұрын

    Knights can sneak up on the queen tho

  • @Serfdomftw
    @Serfdomftw3 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru "Why dont you play better so i can predict your moves/the position" "This is frustrating"

  • @realbignoob1886

    @realbignoob1886

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ikr xD

  • @zeichofreed79

    @zeichofreed79

    Жыл бұрын

    The enemy can't predicy you if you don't know what you are doing, tsunzu probably

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @johngrey1074
    @johngrey10743 жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see the strategies that DeepMind or Stockfish would come up with to play fog of war chess.

  • @muchograndeyolatengo

    @muchograndeyolatengo

    3 жыл бұрын

    It'd be cool. You can't use either of them though, since they both rely heavily on traversing the game tree, which you can't do with so much imperfect information. You look one move ahead and the game tree instantly scatters and you're left with nothing. Alpha Zero could possibly make some tiny sense of the game since it consists of two components and can therefore remove one (the Monte Carlo Search Tree) without driving itself into complete irrelevance. It would then rely completely on its neural network making predictions for the next move only and would most likely as a result be extremely stupid and light years from the Alpha Zero we know. Especially since its psychological perception of the game is gathered through self play, so it would probably be pretty bad at predicting the moves of a human player. On top of that, it doesn't track the move history, since it's irrelevant in a normal game of chess where all you need is the current board state to make your decisions. In a game like this (similar to poker), you need the move history in order to look for patterns that can help you get a broad sense of the board position.

  • @TheAmazingCowpig

    @TheAmazingCowpig

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, AlphaStar managed to play StarCraft, which is mechanically+environmentally more complex than chess due to having fog of war and being real-time, and so was the next logical environment for DeepMind's exploration of AI playing games. So DeepMind has already explored an learning neural network AI traversing an environment with incomplete information. That said, there was also a sort of consensus about AlphaStar's performance in StarCraft that it still wasn't quite truly the top grandmaster-professional player level in terms of tactics, but rather just that it was able to brute force the best of players through raw, mechanical skill in its management abilities, and that anyone that could execute a unique enough plan solidly enough could still blindside the AI if it wasn't something the neural net could account for (even over thousands of training hours and years worth of knowledge). However, given the more limited scope of the movements available in chess compared to a video game RTS, I'd imagine that a DeepMind-like AI would be able to handle it rather well, once it was given enough information and training time.

  • @muchograndeyolatengo

    @muchograndeyolatengo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheAmazingCowpig Or said in another way: (I might have been a bit foggy in my explanation) Starcraft is close to being deterministic, meaning that you can look hundreds or even thousands of "moves" ahead and have a pretty good sense of what the game state looks like. On the other hand looking just 2 or 3 moves ahead in this chess variant and you have absolutely no idea of what the game state is. You could be up 3 pieces or you could be down a queen.

  • @TheAmazingCowpig

    @TheAmazingCowpig

    3 жыл бұрын

    muchograndeyolatengo I don't think Starcraft would be significantly more deterministic than Fog of War chess. Any time a player does not have vision of their opponent, they have incomplete information about how to act; information gathering is a core facet of all strategy games, from this version of chess to video game RTSs. 2 or 3 moves in FoW chess could be equated to 2 minutes into the future in a Starcraft game. While the exact rules and consequences differ, DeepMind has already created the AI that tackles having incomplete information about the game state (as a progression from AlphaZero that did have complete information about the game state at all times). So, a DeepMind AI for FoW chess would probably look something similar to AlphaStar.

  • @muchograndeyolatengo

    @muchograndeyolatengo

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheAmazingCowpig The only incomplete information the AI has in Starcraft is the opponent's build order. Everything else is perfectly visible (including all the battles). So it can excel at everythign else through self training (build order, resoruce management, micro etc.) And if I recall from the matches I've seen, the AI seriously lacks in strategic understanding but makes up for it in perfect micro. We are talking about two completely different domains here. You can' really represent a game of FoW chess with a tree. It's just not possible. The only thing you can train is a standard opening, but that's really exploitable unless you add noise to the input vector or do some other kind of magic. You can't train it to understand the move patterns of human opponents of different strengths through self play. Because humans are not gonna think the same way, which again makes it inherently exploitable. But we're talking in circles here. I'm not gonna convince you and you are not gonna convince me. So I'll let you have the last say and then I'm gonna retreat :)

  • @moltargaltar1219
    @moltargaltar12193 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru’s eyes roll back into his head to look at the crystal ball inside his head “I think I know the exact positions, btw”

  • @thewon9633

    @thewon9633

    Жыл бұрын

    XD and then looses 2 games while his chat calls him toxic

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @tillburr6799

    @tillburr6799

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Baggerz182 no

  • @3zk1i_93
    @3zk1i_933 жыл бұрын

    so weird seeing Levy just talk to Hikaru for 15 minutes without Hikaru ever saying anything back

  • @ijemand5672

    @ijemand5672

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think he speaks English

  • @ayoutubecommenter7494

    @ayoutubecommenter7494

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ijemand5672 I laughed way too hard on this reply 😂

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @user-um9dc3zl6v

    @user-um9dc3zl6v

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ijemand5672 lol😂😂😂

  • @angelhanna2917
    @angelhanna29173 жыл бұрын

    "why are you so bad?" 5 seconds later... **Gets obliterated**

  • @Kolop315
    @Kolop3153 жыл бұрын

    Feel like Hikaru just couldn't unlearn(in only 2 games who could tbf) some things that just don't apply when you can't see. You can see him running through a ton of positions in his head while Levy is just kind of chilling, which I find pretty hilarious.

  • @temkin9298

    @temkin9298

    Жыл бұрын

    Levy is me when I am playing casually with limited time. ;D My opponent tries so hard to understand my moves while I just go with the flow. However if there is no time limit, I would get beaten easily.

  • @na.meless

    @na.meless

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah fr lol

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @anturanggatantra2137
    @anturanggatantra21373 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this is like real life war. Information of position is the most important. And then formulating strategy out of the information while predicting opponent moves

  • @johnk3841

    @johnk3841

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. This is more like real war. You dont have all the info in a war. Just like you said, the more info you have the better your chances of winning. Unlike regular chess where everyone can see what's going on

  • @steve-ks9df

    @steve-ks9df

    3 жыл бұрын

    well in ancient warfare guerilla tactics were less often used, and opponent armies met on the open battlefield. So this is more like modern warfare, chess is like ancient warfare

  • @34BigPete

    @34BigPete

    3 жыл бұрын

    The board game Stratego has similar elements to warfare and this variant as well.

  • @steve-ks9df

    @steve-ks9df

    3 жыл бұрын

    @VIKING AT THE BRIDGE WHOM GAVE HIS BALLS TO BRITS First of all, Sun Tzu wasn't from a million years ago lol. are you not English native speaker? He died about 2500 years ago. But yea, of course there were spies, etc. in ancient warfare. But again, chess is *more* like ancient warfare than modern warfare.

  • @Boricosa

    @Boricosa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @VIKING AT THE BRIDGE WHOM GAVE HIS BALLS TO BRITS irony is not really a good thing to use when trying to correct someone

  • @yudoball
    @yudoball3 жыл бұрын

    Capturing the king without enemy knowing that he was in check is like getting backdoored by evelynn

  • @linczas.-.68

    @linczas.-.68

    3 жыл бұрын

    Xd

  • @alessandromorelli5866

    @alessandromorelli5866

    3 жыл бұрын

    when she oneshots your adc and leaves

  • @jojoxiong4664

    @jojoxiong4664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wtf, lol comments here?

  • @neilpanganiban272

    @neilpanganiban272

    3 жыл бұрын

    u mean flanked? coz backdoor is taking the nexus right.

  • @jojoxiong4664

    @jojoxiong4664

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@neilpanganiban272 nah, you can backdoor as evelynn cuz she can go invisible given that the inhib and nexus turrets are down

  • @Tehom1
    @Tehom13 жыл бұрын

    At 13:27 it seems a very big advantage to exchange queens deep in opponent's territory. Beyond them losing castling rights, you get to see a substantial part of their current position while they see nothing of yours.

  • @rexex345

    @rexex345

    Жыл бұрын

    The queen effectively becomes your scout, where it's better to use it to get valuable info than take things or pressure.

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @jimraynor4383
    @jimraynor43833 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru : "Levy why are you so bad at this game" Also Hikaru: loses twice in a row

  • @GoldTheAngel
    @GoldTheAngel3 жыл бұрын

    That Advance Wars thumbnail is actually golden.

  • @nvat5569

    @nvat5569

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep, i clicked because of that

  • @achillesmichael5705

    @achillesmichael5705

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yellow guy was OP

  • @kymab.5172

    @kymab.5172

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@achillesmichael5705 wait what does he do again? Like all his units are stronger, or smth? All i remember is that his co power gives me headaches.

  • @flop3869

    @flop3869

    3 жыл бұрын

    My god the Nostalgia.... I loved that game

  • @projack5617

    @projack5617

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nvat5569 we all did u.u

  • @rumpupoika
    @rumpupoika3 жыл бұрын

    "When playing others streamers streamsniping isnt a problem" - Levi, when Hikaru clearly has Levis stream open on secret monitor on ceiling :P

  • @pro-11-brawlstars68

    @pro-11-brawlstars68

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @stevemcintosh9381
    @stevemcintosh93813 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love the “Ah! Jesus!” When levy sees the queen just chillin in between all the pawns

  • @h-0058
    @h-00583 жыл бұрын

    "Your queen was just there in my territory the whole time!" Hikaru: "Mhm... Yeah... Sure..."

  • @xendurr8180
    @xendurr81803 жыл бұрын

    It's really funny when Hikaru's thinking. Seems like he's possessed or something.

  • @meowmeow1786

    @meowmeow1786

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's trying to access that part of his brain like: 👀 🧠 🔚

  • @kingjensen8091

    @kingjensen8091

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ceiling demon

  • @CH3LS3A

    @CH3LS3A

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kingjensen8091 using stockfish on the ceiling WeirdChamp

  • @killereagle666
    @killereagle6663 жыл бұрын

    I love how Hikaru was expecting Levy to play theory, got played, and then got rude with him to protect his ego. This variant looks sooo fun.

  • @koolguy728

    @koolguy728

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Got rude" is a bit of an over reaction. I don't think he was being rude at all. Just trying to understand the thought process.

  • @anonymoussecret5948

    @anonymoussecret5948

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said “ok but why are you so bad at the game.” Stop defending this toxic GM. Such a fragile ego

  • @shoobyshooby725

    @shoobyshooby725

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Anonymous secret yeahhhhh don’t know if “toxic” is the right word when at the most he’s just bantering with a friend. You can stop talking like yesterday.

  • @demicolon9255

    @demicolon9255

    3 жыл бұрын

    @RamblingDuck cry more

  • @howridiculous5346

    @howridiculous5346

    3 жыл бұрын

    @RamblingDuck yeah man you're right... stop rambling now lol

  • @pjbutton3396
    @pjbutton33963 жыл бұрын

    I'm so, SO HAPPY that literally ANYONE is acknowledging Advance Wars!

  • @superman2j3
    @superman2j3 Жыл бұрын

    Levy is having way too much fun and hikaru is just calculating the whole time lol

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @highkage9535
    @highkage95353 жыл бұрын

    Now we'll just wait for 4 Player Fog of War Chess.

  • @Jivvi

    @Jivvi

    2 жыл бұрын

    2v2 would be great. You team up with the person opposite you, you can see their pieces and the squares they can see, and you have to capture both the other kings to win.

  • @AdaptiveApeHybrid

    @AdaptiveApeHybrid

    Жыл бұрын

    6v6

  • @mtganalytic9796

    @mtganalytic9796

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not battleground for 100 ppl? Xd

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын

    I love seeing Levy be the master here. Won't be long before Hikaru shifts his thinking a bit and gets insane. Much like that excellent thumbnail. Advance Wars is one of my favorite game series.

  • @chungusballs
    @chungusballs3 жыл бұрын

    "I feel like after among us, this will be the next thing" levy the fortune teller

  • @rama7731

    @rama7731

    3 жыл бұрын

    Apparently its not that fun

  • @dasamont8274

    @dasamont8274

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rama7731 It's probably more fun when you're talking to the other person, because then you can bluff and such things. Also, it could be fun to combine this with 4-player chess, there's no chance that you could predict what every player is doing, so you'd just have to play as well as possible with the information you could see. Especially if you also couldn't see if another player lost, and potentially also their colours, so you'd only see your own pieces and the enemy pieces, with no way to tell which player is threatening you.

  • @user-de1gi8wh4s

    @user-de1gi8wh4s

    Жыл бұрын

    Amongus amonus

  • @BlakeSeely57

    @BlakeSeely57

    Жыл бұрын

    Look it where we are today

  • @nickharvey5975
    @nickharvey5975 Жыл бұрын

    I wish you could see the pieces move through the fog of war, like a rook sweeping past a queen's vision

  • @Baggerz182

    @Baggerz182

    Жыл бұрын

    repent unto God

  • @shmoop_da_shmoop2870

    @shmoop_da_shmoop2870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Baggerz182 no

  • @symmaxayouto

    @symmaxayouto

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, that would be cool.

  • @littlecutething2686
    @littlecutething26863 жыл бұрын

    hikaru should try advance war

  • @ovalsrawesome7645

    @ovalsrawesome7645

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was such a deep cut to my childhood. I haven’t thought of this game in years

  • @chiiing8288

    @chiiing8288

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was about to comment this. make a map with pre deployed units!

  • @SonicsniperV7

    @SonicsniperV7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Seconded.

  • @Finigini

    @Finigini

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would love this. I wonder if he has ever heard of Advance Wars.

  • @peterhardie4151

    @peterhardie4151

    3 жыл бұрын

    Colin Sasha... Grit... great game.

  • @Unknownuser-vq9ul
    @Unknownuser-vq9ul3 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love that ADVANCE WARS thumbnail reference 11/10

  • @andrewj.2516
    @andrewj.25163 жыл бұрын

    3:25 these eyes are blowing

  • @jkid1134
    @jkid11343 жыл бұрын

    Every day we stray closer to YuGiOh

  • @mightybatillo

    @mightybatillo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking something similar the other day. About the fan made pieces like the unicorn and pegasus and how you can add more stuff up till you end with a MOBA or RTS game 🤯

  • @mlgproplayer2915

    @mlgproplayer2915

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @louistully8025

    @louistully8025

    3 жыл бұрын

    When we going to get a chess anime?xD

  • @erickrisdatuin8663

    @erickrisdatuin8663

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mightybatillo that's the downside of becoming popular nowadays, if you consider it a downside.. On the bright side, Chess is becoming more popular.

  • @Senneih_cram

    @Senneih_cram

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wdym yugioh xD

  • @ggghjk5280
    @ggghjk52803 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru: “I’m pretty sure I know exactly where your pieces are” Also Hikaru: 7:52

  • @aduck968

    @aduck968

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @homie_official4569

    @homie_official4569

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahahaaa

  • @tigerfloof
    @tigerfloof3 жыл бұрын

    God I was so hoping Hikaru was actually playing AW2 PVP

  • @josephzeigler6853

    @josephzeigler6853

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rip

  • @achillesmichael5705

    @achillesmichael5705

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn I love those games.

  • @Marcusjnmc

    @Marcusjnmc

    3 жыл бұрын

    69 likes

  • @drewsywensky1446

    @drewsywensky1446

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @highkage9535
    @highkage95353 жыл бұрын

    They just had a completely different game in their heads on 15:47 GMs are no joke.

  • @filipkogut8533

    @filipkogut8533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Levy is not a GM

  • @TheRaspberryFlavored
    @TheRaspberryFlavored3 жыл бұрын

    >Levy trying to explain the rules >Hikaru interrupting him "YEAh yeah yeah I understand" >Doesn't understand

  • @SizzlingSquiggle
    @SizzlingSquiggle2 жыл бұрын

    Ive watched this video like 3 times since it's publish. I love it so much. Please play more of this variant with other people

  • @benghazi4216
    @benghazi42163 жыл бұрын

    This is the best version of chess that I've ever seen! This needs to become a thing between GM's!

  • @zada4a
    @zada4a3 жыл бұрын

    I have a strategy for this version, where you move all pawns just 1 space up and move the rooks over to one side. Everything is defended and you let your opponent do the mistakes. Then you strike and push Harry the H pawn.

  • @pewpewpandas9203

    @pewpewpandas9203

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arnold, Ben, Chad, Darrel, Ernie, Frank, Garry, Harold (Harry)

  • @Asdayasman

    @Asdayasman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Until that becomes the dominant strategy and people counter that.

  • @lalithasrividhara6205

    @lalithasrividhara6205

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then gets scholar mated

  • @lucasmatsuoca

    @lucasmatsuoca

    3 жыл бұрын

    my first game i played c3, got my queen out and was moving it around the 3rd rank and 4th rank when it was safe by previous info i got, then by move 12 or 13 my opponent hang his king, lol, never played since this first game, 100% win rate here

  • @Jivvi

    @Jivvi

    2 жыл бұрын

    a3 b3 c3 d3 e3 f3 g3 h3 Ra2 Rah2 h4 h5 h6 h7 h8=Q#

  • @rodneybrown2364
    @rodneybrown23643 жыл бұрын

    you two are hilarious together. The facial expressions are so fun! I feel like Kasparov with that "flabbergasted and flummoxed" look at the board was the proto-meme to these highly advanced memes you both wield.

  • @AtomicArtumas
    @AtomicArtumas2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like early queen movement is exceedingly powerful due to her vision. Even something as simple as knowing the first 3-4 moves your opponent made could allow you to feasibly counter their entire game, so even if you end up losing the queen, you could come out significantly ahead.

  • @NexenTriz
    @NexenTriz3 жыл бұрын

    Chess where one pawn can secretly move like a king.

  • @alldetected3106

    @alldetected3106

    3 жыл бұрын

    I peeped that too 🤔

  • @oOPPHOo

    @oOPPHOo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Less exciting, but I was wondering about chess with sorta "beginner intuitive" rules. No en passant, no castling(!), and the queen can also move like the knight.

  • @nikodemg6608

    @nikodemg6608

    3 жыл бұрын

    oO PPH Oo That sounds even worse than the one pawn that can move like a king

  • @oOPPHOo

    @oOPPHOo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nikodemg6608 Full disclosure: I'm not aiming for a fun mode. It would be an experiment to see exactly how much those rules matter. Probably a very messy experiment. Until quarantine began and I jumped on the twitch chess hype, I didn't actually know how castling worked (though opponents of mine had used it) and I had never even heard of en passant. I'd be curious to see the "meta" with those sorta rules.

  • @namesakee
    @namesakee3 жыл бұрын

    higher rated than Hikaru ... yes !!! Let me have the moment guys ...pls

  • @namesakee

    @namesakee

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm elated Mr Hikaru ... Big fan.

  • @RubyPiec

    @RubyPiec

    3 жыл бұрын

    What

  • @forminecraft2067
    @forminecraft20672 жыл бұрын

    Seeing Levi and Hikaru at 1500 rating feels illegal

  • @newbie4789
    @newbie4789 Жыл бұрын

    Just realised that the E1/e8 queen exchange is a strong move in this version. The person doing the exchange will get lots of information and most likely no more castling

  • @azimpetra
    @azimpetra2 жыл бұрын

    One thing I learned about this variant, is that people make 'inefficient moves' that you wouldn't do in normal chess. To hide your pieces that your opponent piece discovered(sight).

  • @LithmusEarth
    @LithmusEarth Жыл бұрын

    Hikaru is super impressive, his ability to mentalize the entire game there. [This is actually my second time watching this, oh man, yep.]

  • @apasi4247
    @apasi42473 жыл бұрын

    this is the best type of strategy war games, because its add the unknown variable into the equation

  • @Jose-or3hq
    @Jose-or3hq3 жыл бұрын

    Really like that Advance Wars 2 reference int the thumbnail.

  • @ejvaz13
    @ejvaz13 Жыл бұрын

    Hikaru and Levi playing a third game in their head while playing the second game is amazing! Wish I could play just in my head.

  • @psychoticmortacarn
    @psychoticmortacarn2 жыл бұрын

    I REALLY love the emphasis on bluffing that comes with this mode, it really flips the whole game on its head

  • @Polaris5664
    @Polaris56643 жыл бұрын

    We now need Chess with commanders who give buffs to certain pieces.

  • @Ministevo1

    @Ministevo1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chess Evolved has that concept (but there a lot of other crazy things there so... yeah)

  • @IchBinUnschuldig22
    @IchBinUnschuldig223 жыл бұрын

    More of this please, I really enjoyed it.

  • @TheMarksT
    @TheMarksT3 жыл бұрын

    8:00 Brave Queen! Interesting concept here, gg. Lol. Thrilling to watch in a way. Thx.

  • @smithsmitherson9449
    @smithsmitherson94493 жыл бұрын

    The best thumb nail ever. I will play this video a million times to give it more views and comment every single comment to boost the odds of more brilliant art like this thumbnail.

  • @royalghost4914
    @royalghost49142 жыл бұрын

    The fact that he used Kanbei and Andy from Advance wars, a gba game known for it's fog of war for the thumbnail is just awesome! Hikaru are you an Advance wars fan as well?

  • @niaissathel6345
    @niaissathel63453 жыл бұрын

    BIG ups for the Advance Wars reference. This channel's editor(s) is/are truly a man of culture.

  • @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan
    @VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan Жыл бұрын

    I wish there was more of this. Fun to watch :D

  • @BNavazoS
    @BNavazoS3 жыл бұрын

    It makes me really happy that people still remembers that piece of art Advance Wars (1 or 2, both are great).

  • @NormCantoral
    @NormCantoral3 жыл бұрын

    ohhh ok. now this I can get into. this should be a variant in some kind of tournament !!!

  • @frostwaffy
    @frostwaffy3 жыл бұрын

    I need more of this. The thrill is so good.

  • @tusharjamwal
    @tusharjamwal3 жыл бұрын

    This is so dank I was imagining that I'm watching the board from Levy's perspective and the commentary still made sense to me

  • @davidp.7620
    @davidp.76203 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how on his first game he could figure out where almost every piece of his opponent was

  • @lelouchvibritannia1919

    @lelouchvibritannia1919

    3 жыл бұрын

    and still lost

  • @lg-hw5tk
    @lg-hw5tk3 жыл бұрын

    "After among us, this will be the next thing.." Uh huh..

  • @NarayanAT
    @NarayanAT3 жыл бұрын

    This is a really cool way to play chess. Very enjoyable video watching Hikaru think so much.

  • @kristian9k3g99
    @kristian9k3g993 жыл бұрын

    More of this. Please. I think this is really interesting. Can you get both sides for the you-tube instead of just using the twitch vod?

  • @Fanofstuff
    @Fanofstuff3 жыл бұрын

    i feel like in this game, the queen is even more valuable than any other piece beacuse it gives the most vision, and positions are seemingly kind of reduced in importance vs having vision of what is going on so you can get into a better position. very spicy game, looks fun

  • @geometricart7851
    @geometricart78513 жыл бұрын

    "you know Hikaru is serious when he's not speaking" "I'm just not saying anything because I don't know where your rook is going" LOL

  • @Crustmajor
    @Crustmajor3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Thumbnail Hikaru, I loved that game as a kid.

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly12403 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see Advance Wars is not completely forgotten! What got me into video games

  • @jdawg8427
    @jdawg84273 жыл бұрын

    13:45 "When did i have Tacos?"

  • @ThatBigGuy824
    @ThatBigGuy8243 жыл бұрын

    The other day I was watching Rosen play fog of war thinking "I can't wait to see Hikaru play this" Now my dreams have come true

  • @orlypejr
    @orlypejr7 ай бұрын

    I love how you guys innovate this game. Fog of war in chess is genius! I also love the 4 way chess battle you guys did. Amazing.

  • @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860
    @juliofranciscogomezstoppel18603 жыл бұрын

    This game mode makes things far more interesting, it trully turns chess into a war game, with information being just as valuable as the position itself. It also allows for way riskier stragegies, since you can eat the king.

  • @thanhnguyenduy6306
    @thanhnguyenduy63063 жыл бұрын

    One of those gamemode the wooden shield is actually op.

  • @mikhailzaruykin663

    @mikhailzaruykin663

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see you are an expert in juicer placement as well

  • @spurs_7798

    @spurs_7798

    3 жыл бұрын

    wooden shield is always op

  • @krishgarg2806
    @krishgarg2806 Жыл бұрын

    At the beginning, Levi should have just said, you can only see squares you can move to. Would have been much easier to understand.

  • @TheMaskedMeowth
    @TheMaskedMeowth3 жыл бұрын

    more fow chess pls!! i love this

  • @vladimirtchuiev2218
    @vladimirtchuiev22183 жыл бұрын

    I probably have to apply Starcraft logic in it. You have to scout, unlike in regular chess. Therefore it's much more useful to get the queen out early. Once scouting is prevented, it can be a guessing game on where the opponent must strike. One must take care to avoid enemy bishops though.

  • @laegu5430
    @laegu54303 жыл бұрын

    It scares me how quickly this turned into an info battle

  • @MasterBronzeElite
    @MasterBronzeElite3 жыл бұрын

    8:58 he explained that at the start...

  • @its2three4
    @its2three43 жыл бұрын

    love the use of advanced wars in the thumbnail here!

  • @thegeneralissimo6172
    @thegeneralissimo61722 жыл бұрын

    not sure if the editor seeing this but jaron you are a fucking mastermind, i knew i was thinking those bases where familiar, and its fucking advance wars with kanbei( professional army commander) and andy(repair commander), good job on that my man

  • @shortmarkets7529
    @shortmarkets75293 жыл бұрын

    Levy: hi Hikaru;: you gave me to much information you lose

  • @insertjokeh3r3
    @insertjokeh3r33 жыл бұрын

    The advance wars thumbnail was amazing to see.

  • @jpheitman1
    @jpheitman17 ай бұрын

    "What's an airport?"

  • @UnreliableUsername
    @UnreliableUsername3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love them Hikaru facial expressions while thinking/calculating hahaha

  • @iJukes
    @iJukes3 жыл бұрын

    at 2:10 he said: "after among us this will be the next thing." i mean he was right, chess is the thing now!

  • @eliascarlosmoralesheinke5186
    @eliascarlosmoralesheinke51863 жыл бұрын

    Hikaru just had a screen with Gotham’s stream on the ceiling that’s why he knew where the pieces are

  • @Yamikaiba123
    @Yamikaiba1233 жыл бұрын

    I love how Hikaru has to look away and visualize the board, in order to see PREVIOUS turns.

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly1240 Жыл бұрын

    Advance Wars reference, love it! Grew up on Chess and AWs!

  • @samuelzachary8396
    @samuelzachary83962 жыл бұрын

    the mind games are so good, I imagine this is waay more fun with high level players.

  • @hanspetervollhorst1
    @hanspetervollhorst13 жыл бұрын

    Basically you „just“ vectorise the position. It‘s a lot closer to poker than choker.

  • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
    @standard-carrier-wo-chan Жыл бұрын

    Hikaru struggling to unlearn decades of regular chess. Welcome to your glimpse of how being an actual field army commander feels, Hikky

  • @tungstwn1241
    @tungstwn12412 жыл бұрын

    That's a cool way to play chess. And having played Advance Wars since it came out, I love the thumbnail!

  • @aldonious0229
    @aldonious02293 жыл бұрын

    13:35 Hikaru reacting the way I do in regular chess .. 😂😂

  • @nyChannel09
    @nyChannel09 Жыл бұрын

    This is how chess is supposed to end. The king needs to be eaten like in this mode where he has to move his queen onto the king to end the game. This should also be the case in normal chess.

  • @divided_and_conquered1854
    @divided_and_conquered18543 жыл бұрын

    Your content is fucking FANTASTIC brother. It'll take me like 3 lifetimes to watch just half of it.... I've been eating right and exercising so I can increase my longevity.

  • @Jumpenny
    @Jumpenny2 жыл бұрын

    Loved the game the thumbnail is from, advanced army was epic

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