Belgian Assault Rifle

@WARHOUND1986

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@dashingdave2665

7 ай бұрын

Oh, now we know it's really Belgian Armalite Rifle 😊

@skeven0

7 ай бұрын

the A in BAR stands for Automatic btw@@dashingdave2665

@dembro27

7 ай бұрын

Belgian Belgian Assault Rifle Assault Rifle.

@Kremit_the_Forg

7 ай бұрын

​@@dembro27 Ngl gun's kinda sus... Doesnt read BELGIQUE BELGIQUE BELGIQUE anywhere.. propably a fake.

The US’ refusal to adopt a rifle with a pistol grip until well into vietnam is baffling to me.

@WALTERBROADDUS

7 ай бұрын

Try 500 years of firearms stock design....

@alm5992

7 ай бұрын

Rifles without grips look a lot more aesthetically pleasing, but I doubt that is the reason lol!

@hailexiao2770

7 ай бұрын

Fudds: holding back US firearms procurement since 1889.

@User_Un_Friendly

7 ай бұрын

@@alm5992 You'd be surprised...

@Joe45-91

7 ай бұрын

The whole M14 project has a lot problems besides no pistol grip. As far as the BAR, I think the mag release is more a significant upgrade than the pistol grip. Just a personal opinion

I would love to see Ian going through all the Swedish versions of the BAR. They even made one that was belt-fed.

@JosephShemelewski

7 ай бұрын

That sounds awesome I never knew that

@HasturT

7 ай бұрын

Kulsprutegevär m/1937 Bandmatat. 6.5x55@@JosephShemelewski

@JosephShemelewski

7 ай бұрын

@@HasturT Cool thanks

@hailexiao2770

7 ай бұрын

Ah, the missing link between the BAR and MAG!

@JosephShemelewski

7 ай бұрын

@@hailexiao2770 It looks nuts based on the pictures I've seen lol I can see why it was never officially adopted

The addition of a pistol grip really changes to operation of the BAR.

I’ll never tire of BAR variant content. What a fantastic video to wake up to, thanks my guy

@SA-xf1eb

7 ай бұрын

I agree.

@Melody_Raventress

6 ай бұрын

BAR is BEST.

After watching you disassemble the B.A.R. and talk about how the U.S. version was harder. I have greater respect for my father. He carried a B.A.R. during world War two in France. He never mentioned how hard it was to maintain.

@jonmeray713

7 ай бұрын

Im sure if its all you know then its not an issue. We have it easy being able to look at all the designs years after the fact

It’s really interesting to me how similar to the mag-58 or m240 series the bolt, gas plug and piston are. At a glance you could be forgiven for thinking they came from a 240. It’s neat that FN looked at those designs and went “if it ain’t broke…”

@calvingreene90

7 ай бұрын

Especially when you turn the BAR upside down.

@MaHaL1337

6 ай бұрын

I think the funniest description I ever heard of the MAG/240 was "upside down beltfed BAR"

I hereby declare this the "Chocolate BAR". Because it is sweet. And, y'know, Belgian.

@TheIndianalain

6 ай бұрын

As a Belgian, I'll allow it.

Ha! I bought this gun at the Morphy auction. It's badass.

@DB-yj3qc

7 ай бұрын

Congratulations on a fine example of the BAR, I wish you many years of pleasure owning it.

@cassandrajoiner9933

2 ай бұрын

Jealous.

@andrewmacintosh1388

Ай бұрын

What's going on with that chunk of metal that "ripped off" the receiver? Any issues? Repairs?

I have to say FN made the BAR practical. And it looks awesome

@krissteel4074

7 ай бұрын

Blaster from another age, all the curves, bevels and dovetails make it look like like an artisan built piece. Even the bluing on an old gun still holds up because sections were highly polished.

@bobbressi5414

7 ай бұрын

The rate reduction system seems overly complicated. I am assuming modifications to the bolt or recoil spring were not practical for some reason. I wonder how robust that rack and pinion system is.

@IceWolfLoki

7 ай бұрын

Strangely enough the Belgians also did the same for the Chauchat.

@RedXlV

6 ай бұрын

If you want to see FN making the BAR practical, this is only the start. The Mle D was a vast improvement.

I can’t help but admire the design and engineering of some of these old firearms. The tech that went into them was truly revolutionary at the time

I really like that the Hi Power designer, that Belgian with the funny name doesn’t get the respect he deserves for that LEGENDARY 9mm pistol.

@JohnHughesChampigny

7 ай бұрын

Mr God Given Saive. Also responsible for the FAL and the initial work on the MAG.

@WALTERBROADDUS

7 ай бұрын

Mr. Saivé really deserves more props than he does. He sort of gets lost a little bit in the great firearms designer mix.

@ROBERTN-ut2il

7 ай бұрын

I have two. One is a pre 1939 model with a slot for a holster stock (which I don't have and don't want, thank you) and the other is 1976 build with a beautiful bluing job, walnut grips and target sights as I shooting competitively back then. As I was living on post, I kept it in the company arms room. Apparently, the armorer had never seen anything but parkerized M1911A1's, fell in love with it and showed it to the First Sergeant. So I was greeted one morning with, "That's quite a pistol you have, El Tee." I just grinned, "It sure is, Top"

I met a WW2 vet who said they made you clean BARs as discipline for messing up, kinda like peeling potatoes.

I know a lot of things are better than this but man I love this aesthetic of the BAR

The bolt, bolt carrier, piston and gas plug look very similar to those from the FN MAG. Very cool to see the lineage

My uncle Art was the hunter in family (his stories of hunting for the mess hall with a M1 carbine while on occupation duty in Germany were classics). He had been an infantryman late 44-45 on the Western Front. He told me once, that after Bulge they got some strange looking BAR's with pistol grips and finned barrels to give two guns to a squad. As I got to know firearms better, I doubted his story - maybe just a mistaken memory of 30 years before. Then I discovered the Model 30. Did FN have some 30-06 Model 30's in stock that had sat in a warehouse since 1940? Did it make new barrels or rechamber existing Model 30's in other calibers? How did the US Army get ahold of them? Mysteries we'll almost surely never know the answer to.

@shaunw9092

7 ай бұрын

I might have answers. Luxembourg used 30-06 as their standard cartridge, they were probably FN-D's. The Battle of the Bulge was fought in this area.

The "rate-reduction" feature of the FN Model 30, is very cool

My stepfather had a BAR-D in Canada. It had been converted to single shot by cutting off the gas piston, and welding the gas system and bbl latch. A travesty I know but kept it from the cutters torch, until it was consumed in a Fire

@mrkeogh

7 ай бұрын

Did this fire occur during a "boating accident"? 😉

@Jreb1865

6 ай бұрын

Actually, it sounds kinda cool...

It's always a good day when Ian uploads Belgian weapons.

@AxLWake

7 ай бұрын

As a Belgian, I have to agree.

The Madsen he covered the other day was like a Rube Goldberg but the BAR isn't exactly simple either.

@ROBERTN-ut2il

7 ай бұрын

True when I was a freshman in Army ROTC 1970-71 we still had some to familiarize with as some low priority units still had them. Complicated to field strip with lots of little parts to get lost. Not a fun time in the field.

@aaron6178

7 ай бұрын

Dude, totally. I'd rather service an antique swiss chronometer than the Madsen.

I find it really cool that you can look at the swapping of parts on the gas piston/plug and see how it is incrementally becoming closer to the M240/FN Mag gas system, which uses the same bolt and piston system over a century of history from the original BAR to the Lima variant, and not a whole ton has changed internally

We still use these beauty even today in 30-06 caliber, mainly by our Navy (mostly by ship crew, sailor and naval base personel). FN D just like the Madsen can serve really well for decades

@robosoldier11

7 ай бұрын

I mean if it aint broke. Seriously though I'm sure there are plenty of older rifles that can still be quite viable in modern situations. Even if they aren't top of the line.

@Joe-hz1nw

7 ай бұрын

@@robosoldier11their biggest issue is the inability to add modern optics/force multipliers

@jeramyw

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@Joe-hz1nw The model D would be even nicer with a pic rail and a free floating handguard rail

@jalpat2272

7 ай бұрын

​​@@Joe-hz1nwNo biggies,I hate picatinny regardless their practicality

@WALTERBROADDUS

7 ай бұрын

What nation?

I lived in the Netherlands for a couple of decades and was often in Belgium. They know firearms there!

@garlicbreathandfarts

7 ай бұрын

@@Elatenl Museums and lore

@garlicbreathandfarts

7 ай бұрын

@@Elatenl Dutch art is nothing special these days, but there are plenty of museums there that glorify the past.

@hoilst265

7 ай бұрын

Of course. They've gotta keep the Dutch at bay!

@garlicbreathandfarts

7 ай бұрын

@@Elatenl I agree, but there are some pretty cool and informative museums in and around Liege.

@rvanhees89

7 ай бұрын

@@Elatenl having connections.. I live in the netherlands and have acces to the weapons depot of the Dutch Military Museum. 8000 unique fire-arms that I can touch... So yeah, connections..

You are a such a blessing Ian. I am making a video game featuring rare older fire arms and every time I think of something I would like to add, you do a full breakdown of it. Thank you so much.

Thanks, Ian. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving

The craftsmanship on interwar guns is so pretty. Nice machining gorgeous finish

Any reliability updates on the Calico? (Asking for a friend).

One of the best versions of the BAR in my opinion.

I remember going through Tanker OSUT and working on the M2 and M240. Any time we had a pin or, especially, a detent to pull to a specific point to see in a hole in the receiver or frame our Drill Sergeant would say, "You got to see the titty in the window." It was a different time.

Love the FN BARS, god they look so well made for early LMGs

I love the BAR. Any video with a BAR in it instantly gets a like

My father was a BAR man in the 101st as they were converting to the M14 from the Garand.

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

So did all the BAR men get M60s?

@tomhenry897

7 ай бұрын

They would have got full auto M14s

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

@@tomhenry897 Interesting. I would've thought the men who had M1 Garands got M14s and BAR men M60s. So were the BARs replaced by the standard M14s or a special LMG version with bipod and heavy barrel?

@BeltFedSelfDefense

6 ай бұрын

​​@@hendriktonisson2915pretty much, nomenclature M15, short lived obviously. If you ever played CoD black ops, and saw the M14 and said that looks wrong, that's because it was modeled after the M15. Edit: did a double check, apparently no M15s were actually built, they just used M14E2s/M14A1s. Ian did a video about it like 8 years ago

Some of the Chinese KMT 1933-39 contract of these have been seen with the Japanese triangle 'captured re-issue' mark. It's always amazing to think of the variety of people who used guns of a particular iconic origin!

Great story as always!

Great Stuff 💯 Thank you Ian 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

Beautiful

I don't know exactly why, but there is something so appealing about this gun, i felt very similar for the M1907 as well Might be called "Browning Charm", as a diagnosed phenomenon, i am not sure

I wonder what happened to all the tooling for the FN30 when WW2 started. You didn't see any German manufactured BARs, implying the tooling wasn't available to them. The Germans were quite good at taking over factories and continuing production for their own forces. Did the Germans just not appreciate the weapon when they conquered Belgium, or was the tooling destroyed?

@kevinoliver3083

7 ай бұрын

I don't think the Wehrmacht were interested in the BAR, or in the Browning 1917. They used the 7.92x57mm guns they captured in Poland. But didn't continue production of either weapon in during their Occupations of Belgium and Poland. Apart from pistols, FN was used to make components for German gunmakers, including Walther. And also military motorcycle/sidecar combinations.

@WALTERBROADDUS

7 ай бұрын

They had stuff like the fg-42 to use.

@tomhenry897

7 ай бұрын

Didn’t want these Not sure why Made the Chec Bren gun Had FN making other weapons

@hailexiao2770

7 ай бұрын

My guess is that most of FNs technical and management staff fled to the UK, so the Germans couldn't make good use of the tooling. The Reich was already short one both, and you can't just lapanka some Poles to crank out BARs.

@kenneth9874

7 ай бұрын

​@@kevinoliver3083they were when they were used against them....

Is it just me, or does it seem really crazy to include a rate reducer that works by making it harder for the bolt to return forward and go fully into battery through just pure friction from having to push a lever out of the way? That seems like it would be inviting malfunctions.

Such a good looking gun

FN and Browning, name a more iconic duo.

Good explanation mccolins

Un magnifique fusil-mitrailleur modèle trente belge!

What a nightmare to strip. Don't believe that I could ever do that blind-folded. Unlike a Bren of similar vintage. Czech mate!

@kenneth9874

7 ай бұрын

Bren? You might as well have a grease gun.

@MarvinCZ

6 ай бұрын

@@kenneth9874 What a silly comment.

@kenneth9874

6 ай бұрын

@@MarvinCZ have you ever fired one?

@MarvinCZ

6 ай бұрын

@@kenneth9874 I fired a ZB-26 but even if I didn't, comparing a Bren to a Grease gun is so stupid, anyone who knows anything about those guns is facepalming.

@kenneth9874

6 ай бұрын

@@MarvinCZ they're both cheap and simple and they both work ....

Very nice.

If Dieudonné Saive was American, he would be right up there with John Browning and Eugene Stoner as the most famous gun designers.

@georgesheffield1580

7 ай бұрын

In the rest of the world he is "right up there "

@hoilst265

7 ай бұрын

Dieudonné Saive IS right up there with John Browning. Because John Browning said so.

@ROBERTN-ut2il

7 ай бұрын

I always say he was Browning's disciple.

Very cool

I really like that magazine release.

That's a really nice rifle.

The first Belgian BAR is better than all the BAR USA used inWWl, WWll, Korea War and so...

@kenneth9874

7 ай бұрын

Nah, not bad for a copy of a great American design though

@chaosXP3RT

6 ай бұрын

Nope

It's even got the shoulder thing that goes up.

Some of these popped up in the Spanish Civil War (or at least some BAR version with pistol grip).

@Jon-lq1of

7 ай бұрын

Moustache

@tomhenry897

7 ай бұрын

Bit of everything showed up there And China

The main reason I appreciate Ian is his correct pronunciation of "height".

We pronounce the T in trente because there is an E after the T, otherwise it would be silent indeed ! Good work dude, your pronunciation is starting to be outstanding

I admit I wasn't ready for the Fire Control Group to start quacking.

Excellent Ian. Simple pronunciation tip: Saive's name is pronounced as if it were spelled SEV in English. Also, in "fusil", the L is silent.

@martkbanjoboy8853

7 ай бұрын

The Flemish BAR is vastly superior in all respects to this clearly Wallonian BAR. 😅

@mikeblair2594

7 ай бұрын

@@brianferguson7840 Thems fightin words boy!!!!

@martkbanjoboy8853

7 ай бұрын

​​@@brianferguson7840messin with the pomme frites - ono you dit-nt!This is the third rail issue for any nation to not go to. wrt Belgium 😅

That's a big FN BAR

4:50 ah yes. I believe the technical term is ‘the shoulder thingy that goes up’

The shoulder thing that goes up

Thank s

You should try to tie in war / hero stories that used the firearms you talking about if possible when applicable. Great video

@SA-xf1eb

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a new channel is needed. 😊

@Stevarooni

7 ай бұрын

He rarely does battle history unless it's a specific firearm used by an individual. His channel is largely the broad history of firearms from a technical, technological, and logistical viewpoint.

🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 DESDE ARGENTINA BUENOS AIRES, SALUDOS.A MORPHY muy buenos los vídeos siempre los veo son muy bien esplicado le mando un abrazo 👍👍🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

I wonder what the best bipods of the '20s and '30s was? Sort of 'the bipod to rate against'.

I call for the Ian drinking game (take a swig even time he tries french )😜

@matthayward7889

7 ай бұрын

Take a shot for every “but I digress…”

If you can do a video about the Swedish Kg m/1937: modified version of m/1921, with quick-detachable barrel.

Im from belgium ^^ nice looking gun

That’s a beautiful weapon… I mean Ian’s mustache, though the BAR is a close second.

Nice,,,

E Gads! I had not seen a BAR striped. No wonder they were so expensive!

It seems to me that magazine release could be a problem in brush or when going prone. More likely to lose the magazine than inside the trigger guard.

I prefer to refer to the BAR as Barely Any Rounds. All that metal and the bastard is out of hurty bits after a couple of controlled bursts of fire.

@kenneth9874

7 ай бұрын

No one cares what you think

I didn't scan through all the comments so apologies if somebody else already covered it but... while the updated mag release does look nice... form a pure military / law enforcement perspective... I like the original button mag release as, with proper training, I think one is just as fast as the other and, to me, I would be concerned about unintentional mag drops with the sliding release... e.g. it gets snagged on something or in "the heat of battle, the user getting "excited" and accidentally grabs the release instead of the trigger 😮

Wouldn't want to take that apart on a freezing rainy January night in the pitch dark.

Firearms made from milled steel forgings have a character that stamped gins just can't match.

Would this be the model that the polish postal workers used to defend their post office at the start of WW2 ?

@MerrilSmith

7 ай бұрын

You just watched The Fat Electrician's video didn't you.

@kevinoliver3083

7 ай бұрын

No, FN developed the M1930 after the Poles had adopted their version of BAR. Most Browning wz 1928 guns were made in Poland, under licence. With only the initial batch of Colt made guns being bought from FN.

The best BAR

BAR: Big Ass Rifle!

This gun has the real life "fuller auto" lmao

Can someone with better editing skills than me put together a super cut of the o loving pronunciation of Dieudonné Saive.

Speaking of FN, and you did the teaser video of “The Most Expensive MG Ever Sold”… all I want for Christmas is the FN Minimi formal history and mechanics episode and it’s coming soon on almost definitely Christmas of this year 2023.

@ke6ziu

7 ай бұрын

I'll take an FN-MAG!

I had the opportunity in 94 to buy an original select fire BAR for 1700 plus 200 for the class 3 tax. I turned it down. If any of you invent a time machine I can go back and punch myself in the face.

I would assume the gun is in the German 8mm. That is what the Polish were using along with many other countries.

Ideal for vaporising GIs in Enlisted

Some dummy ammo with various comparisons and useable empty cases would really be nice...x

I'm curious what the absolute unit of an anti tank rifle behind him is, is that one of the russian 14.7mm's or a 20mm cannon?

@jslaon

6 ай бұрын

Boys anti tank rifle I think.

The BAR drawn with a crayon

Can u do more Croatia?

The bar from Kelly’s heroes.

early US Army org charts show the BAR used in the AA role. This changed quickly when the US entered the war.

Anyone know how to get in touch with Ian? I have an old revolver I'd love to learn more about. Reason to believe it may have been a civil war piece

I guess you can say the BAR was set high for bAT variants.

I love classic FN guns. They absolutely dominated military small arms for the past 100 years.

@AxLWake

7 ай бұрын

Truth.

@kenneth9874

7 ай бұрын

That would be John Browning

Dear Ian, why there has never been FN1910 and FN1922 review on your esteemed chanell? After all FN 1910 was the gun that started WWI so it deserves its own video. 🙂😁😎

@AxLWake

7 ай бұрын

Cool guns indeed. In Belgium, you can find them for dirt cheap in most gun shops. FN made A LOT of them.

Belgian's Awesome Rifle

After watching this breakdown, I have to say despite the massive amount of machining, the bren gun is better. I can't imagine having to field strip in austere conditions

@gunnargundersen3787

7 ай бұрын

To be fair on the BAR it was 20 years earlier than the Bren but yeah - Bren hands down.

What advantages does having the fast (600 rpm) full auto and slow full auto (350 rpm) settings give compared to having one full auto setting (for example 550 rpm) and semi auto setting?

@ForgottenWeapons

7 ай бұрын

In my opinion, none. I think the idea was to allow more continuous covering/harrassing fire at a slower rate that would conserve ammunition.

@onelonecelt9168

7 ай бұрын

Ammo conservation. It's magazine fed and those go dry quickly. Light machine guns of the day also were used for anti air applications. You would want a higher cyclical rate against aircraft. For a light machine gun against infantry a slower rate of fire was more desirable. Semi in a light machine gun is also kind of useless, that is what rifleman are for.

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

@@ForgottenWeapons I see. Thank You for the answer!

@hendriktonisson2915

7 ай бұрын

@@onelonecelt9168 The ZB26 and Bren LMGs had a rate fire of about 500-550 rpm and these were not considered to have too fast rate of fire.

@onelonecelt9168

7 ай бұрын

@@hendriktonisson2915 I am aware of that, and agree with you, that they aren't too fast, but your question was on this gun and the possible idea behind the rpm settings. So I gave you an answer that probably sums up the idea behind it.

"Nyaa" at 9:32

Wow, this is the polar opposite of space magic 🤣 And seeing this dissasembled instantly answers the question everyone always have when they learn how heavy a BAR is, it seems every single part in there is made from the absolute largest volume of solid steel you could possibly fit in there - probably some of the parts even 3D-clip into each other 🤣 And that dissasembly out the bottom is just so insanely wonky, like taking random devices apart as a child and going "I always have something left over when I try to reasseble it and it never works again" - not exactly ideal for a weapon of war..Imagine you have this apart at the front and get told the enemy is approaching and having to quicly get it working the in the dark...

A BAR with a pistol grip should’ve been what the US adopted for use as a battle rifle in the 1950s instead of the M14.

@patrickporter1864

6 ай бұрын

The BAR was 18 or so pounds and the fbi version was 16 pounds. A lot of weight for an average soldier to carry around. The m14 itself was around 9llb. Imagine if they made the fbi version in 7.62 x 39 or in the kurtz round. They could have had the fn fal but the ordinance board would not allow it.

the BAR is just cool 😎 👌!it's heavy, It's an antique but I still like it ! I think the pistol grip would be helpful in controlling this beast.