Your white board demo was particularly helpful.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I thought it might help.

Thank you very much for making these videos. Your explanations are clear and simple and most of all, you are interesting to listen to. I've watched many tutorials and sadly, the knowledge was hard to absorb because the speaker was boring. Thanks for doing such a great job!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

2 жыл бұрын

Nancy, thank you so much for the kind words.

Really appreciate such a clear and concise video! I’ve watched a few on this subject and yours is the best by far. Thankyou!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Heather.

Doug, thank you for yet another generous tutorial! 😎

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Marion, you are so welcome. It is my pleasure.

Great video! You make it look so easy. I love the drawing to show what each bur is doing with their particular shapes, Thanks for sharing!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Amanda.

Thank you so much, i have been searching for this many times, but every videos not giving us this informations, thank you 🙏🏻

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Husam You are welcome.

You make it look so easy thank you!

Doug the quality and content of this video is excellent. Thank you for sharing!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Dee

Doug... you make it look so easy :-)... Excellent tut!..A confidence builder!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fletcher, as a jewelry teacher, I am constantly looking for new ways to get my point across and make the content a little easier to understand.

Really good video and good instructor! Thank you 😊

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Thank you thank you thank you for the drawings! Now I understand!!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Mama D Does Dinner ....That is what I like to hear!

That was a really helpful tutorial, thanks for posting!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel, you’re welcome.

Your diagrams are awesome, thanks for sharing! :)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

Thanks a lot Doug. The model of the bur and the drawings are better than in a lot of manuals I've seen.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Erik, That is what I was hoping for. Trying to make it a little simpler.

@erikscharer

6 жыл бұрын

Doug Napier: The pase, tempo and the explanations why and how are excellent. Lookin forward to more of these vids. Hope I ll be able to make my own contribution. Ps I use the same handpiece B-)

Excellent Video Doug!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Craig! Coming from you that means a lot.

Lovely! It gives me confidence to try!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

11 ай бұрын

Great to hear. You can do it. Enjoy the process. Doug

This is exactly what I’ve needed!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

8 ай бұрын

Laurie, give it a try and let me know how it worked for ya.

The drawing was very informative, thank you.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Linda, you are welcome.

Goodevening. I see your tutorial for the first time. It was exactly what I was looking for. Never seen it more easy than how you explain everything. What a pleasure to see and hear. Thank you so much. I will try to make my first setting like this. I am not a professionel and never did these settings yet. I suppose you live somewhere in the US?

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 ай бұрын

You are welcome.

Great video, thank you 🙏

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

I have been trying to get these consistent for years, and I have never been able to get them consistent enough to actually use them in my work. I think my problem is that my setting or hart bur is slightly smaller than my stone. What do I do about that? Where do you purchase you burrs/what brand are they? I always feel like I have to push down really hard on the metal. When I finally get one that will stay, it’s usually crooked. Also, my burnisher may be a problem, but I just made a new one and I think it’s better.

hi, many thanks for tips ;)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

Hi Doug, love this video but I am wondering how you can avoid the hart bur from cutting the top lip by accident as the bur is going down? Since we want the top opening to be slightly smaller than the stone so that there is a bit of tension and lip up the top. I hope this makes sense. Thank you!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

As long as the hole is the same size as the stone, or even slightly larger, the stone will slip down "snug" and the metal will "mush" or form over the stone to hold it in.

Nice and simple , many other channels are not showing the complete process and asking for subscribers, your channel is good , love from India , What is the metal thickness gauge .

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

NA International The thickness is about 1.3mm

Hello Doug. Amazing video and very helpful. Can you suggest a way where I can mass produce small brass pieces with empty holes perfect for diamond setting? I do not want every single piece to be hand drilled as it will be expensive in my country. Can it be done via brass casting or metal die cutting? One of our die manufacturer has said it can done but the backside of the metal won't remain plain but slight dent will be formed due to impact. Any suggestion on this will appreciated. Thank You once again :)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

John, you should be able to have a pilot hole made in the pieces, so there is less work to do to each setting.

Thank you for your video! may I ask what vice your using and how its connected to the bench peg? looks very useful

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Жыл бұрын

you are welcome. The name of the bench apparatus is called a GRS Bench Pin.

When I work with small pieces I glue them to a popsicle stick makes easier to work on

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong: it seems problematic to have used a bud bur as that profile gives a round bowl for the stone. If you use a setting bur (or a hart bur) next, unless you go much deeper you will have the problem of the stone not staying flat in the setting, rocking when you try to set the sides by pushing metal, which is a pain in the butt when setting (oops, the stone isn't flat and the metal is pushed over - junk it, start again...)......Wait, wait... You "checked it" by doing what? Don't you have to check it by pushing on the stone (culet) from the back [of the stone through the drilled hole] to see if the setting process pushing and swirling around has been enough to make the setting strong enough to sell to a customer? Is it really strong? What do you think of this? Thanks for teaching us!

Great video, thank you. What are you using to install your burnisher? I like this better than those round wood handle tools. And where can I get one?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, it is called a pin vise, and they work well for holding different sized burs and bits.

Great tutorial! Thank you very much! Is this only possible with small stones? I heard someone say it doesn't work with a stone over 3mm.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

I have done with stones larger than 3mm

Excellent video and quality!! Yes, the white board demo was very helpful. Thank you for posting :) Could you use tiny cabochons?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

I have never done it, but you could give it a try.

@pastoracahow5543

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply! If I try it I'll let you know how it comes out. :)

Hi Doug, just to confirm my understanding of your recommended hand pressures, you apply just enough downward force to keep the rounded tip always in contact with the crown of the stone, and the rest of your focus is on applying circular outward pressure to cause the ~60 degree side angles of the burnisher to "mushroom" the sharp edge of the surrounding metal, correct?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Chris, Exactly.

@christophermball

5 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk Thanks for the quick confirmation.

Thank you for a very good tutorial. What would be the maximum size of a gemstone if it is set into an 8mm wide ring and is for example a 4mm (round topaz) gemstone too big if the ring is 2.1mm thick. And how much space should be left on the edge of the ring for burnishing (space between edge of the ring and stone)?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Жыл бұрын

Jyri, you could set a 4mm stone in a 8mm wide band, you could probably get by with a 6-7mm wide band. the issue would be how far the stone sticks out the bottom. You want to make sure the stone doesn't stick through the bottom.

@jyrikoskinen1198

Жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I'm thinking the same thing, but so far I have no idea what the depth of a gem of this size is, whether it is possible to set it same flush with the surface of the ring.

Hi there, thanks for your tutorial. My stone 3mm keeps spinning when I burnish. I've followed all the steps I learnt but somehow it keeps spinning. Cheers Jeanette

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

2 жыл бұрын

Keep practicing, maybe your seat is cut too deep, or too large, or the metal is just not burnished enough over the stone.

@jeannettestephenson4023

2 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk will do thanks Doug

curious i get some of the stone setting, some of the casting /molding of the rings but what i don't get yet is how the stones . gems, diamonds ,rubies ,...etc are made in the shapes and sizes yet. Are they just manual dug up / found in different shapes /sizes or is there any processing of them that a jeweler does before setting them on the ring or object he wants to set them on.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

sam111880 for most stones there is a stone cutter that does the cutting, shaping, faceting, etc. The jeweler usually orders the stone in a specific size and shape, and sets it.

what is the metal pen looking thing that you put the polished burr for burnishing into called?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

2 жыл бұрын

Hi. It is called a pin vise.

Great video! just wondering, why did you use a heart bur instead of a setting bur? which is the difference? Thanks :)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Maria, great question. I use them both almost interchangeable at times. On this piece, since the majority of the cutting was done with a bud bur, I finished it with the hart bur so I have a better view of the depth I am cutting while it is working. Both work though. Thanks for the question.

@inesmillsjewelry8426

5 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot for your answer! @@DougNapierJewelryMonk

hey there! thanks so much for this tutorial, just a question could i use a round burr instead of a bud burr?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

you could, yes, especially for diamonds, but on color stones sometimes they have a thicker bottom and you have to be careful.

I'm a tad confused on the burnishing part. I've watched a bunch of flush set vids saying to hold the burnisher at an angle and some practically parallel to the piece. You seem to be at a 90 degree angle...how does it work to push the metal over the stone? What's stopping it from just polishing the walls of the hole and notngripping the stone? I CAN'T wrap my head around this part AT ALL! Please help!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Here is another video that hopefully explains it a little more: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKNqtJSgiKfKaZM.html

Is in necessary to drill the pilot hole straight through.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Beer Vijitkajee it sure helps.

This is the best video I've seen on Gipsy settings! Thank you so much. Am I supposed to test the setting by trying to push it out? because I feel like they always seem perfect but they fall out when I test them. Maybe I'm pushing too hard or I shouldn't be pushing at all.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Irene, yes, test by trying to push it out. If you can push it out, it needs more tightening.

Are you teaching this in a course? Your approach is great. :)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Doug, I will be teaching stone setting in house at my training center, and also creating a stone setting video series in the near future.

Thanks for a great video! What was the gauge of the metal you used?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Dazzledust22 this was approximately 13 gauge.

@Dazzledust22

4 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk Thank you x

Does anyone know what gauge silver is being used

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

collie man approximately 13 gauge.

@collieman7377

4 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk so I can go as thick as I want as long as the drill hole is all the way thru

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

collie man yes. Actually the hole just needs to be deeper than the bottom of the stone.

@collieman7377

4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered all my tools to try this..my first project is a oval bracelet with (7) 6mm stones...I ordered 16g soft silver...going its thick enough for the stones and not to thick where I can still shape the bracelet

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

collie man shape the bracelet first.

Do you use a lot of pressure when doing the circular burnishing part?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Depending on the metal. Silver, not a lot. Gold and white gold, a little more pressure.

Hi Doug - I've tried flush setting in the past with varying results. I've made my own burnisher from an old bit as well, but mine is a bit smaller at the tip. Do you know roughly the size of the tip you've made? Is there a rough threshold for ""too big or "too small"? I'm assuming it depends on stone size as well? Cheers.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

Emily, here is a new video I made to help. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKNqtJSgiKfKaZM.html

@Gwennie363

6 жыл бұрын

Fabulous!

you made it look so easy! i'm a jewelry student and i'm having a hard time doing this :(

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

What seems to be the problem?

@irvinadityaparapak7293

5 жыл бұрын

i'm having a trouble making a perfectly straight hole and resulting in the stones are not setting properly (the stones went off easily) i think i need to practice more. sorry for my bad grammar.@@DougNapierJewelryMonk

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Irvin, get good tools (burs and bits) and take your time.

@irvinadityaparapak7293

5 жыл бұрын

thank youuu! @@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Aren't you afraid you're going to embrace the stone near the girdle or around the girdle?

Where do I order drill bit pieces? I have a Foredom but it did not come with any? I don’t want to order the wrong one help!!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Ай бұрын

try RioGrande.com

Can a pear shape or marquise cut be gypsy set?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but it takes more time and attention.

Hi! How does it go over the stone if only pressing down. Does it depend on the size of burnisher? It must. I’ve seen people pushing towards stone. And then skid! So hard. I just tried my first time with a technique of someone who makes the hole a slight bit smaller, then puts the stone in an angle, and taps it in with a copper rod. I had brass. Must be harder than copper. Cuz stone broke. Or maybe this stone I got off eBay wasn’t a cz. But I find this really hard. I’ve seen others who say notch it with heart but on only one side, so it’ll then click in. When I’ve tried this way you’re doing, in the past, the metal didn’t move, but the stone did. Help?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

I don't necessarily press "down" but more press into the bezel, and force the bezel over the stone. Be careful not to "skid" out of the bezel area. I make sure I cut the stone hole the same size as the stone, so there is no play. (practice at this) You can get away with "tapping" the stone into a tight setting..... but more times than not the stone will break, even diamonds because the pressure is on the weakest and most vulnerable part of the stone. If you are feeling lucky and want to tap the stone into place, use a toothpick trimmed flat. You can notch the hole, but that just makes for a sloppy fitting stone and harder to get tight. Hope this helps. Doug

@huskyfluffy

6 жыл бұрын

I did it! Somehow it worked! Thank you!

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

6 жыл бұрын

huskyfluffy Awesome! I knew you could.

When you do this type of setting does the hole need to be drilled all the way through? I’d like to try it in a thicker setting without doing so. Thx.

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Paulie, it does not have to be drilled all the way through.

@skelieskaal4693

4 жыл бұрын

Doug Napier thank you!

@skelieskaal4693

4 жыл бұрын

One more question - how deep do I need to drill the hole if I’m not going all the way through? Thx

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

4 жыл бұрын

Measure the thickness of the stone, and drill a little deeper than the thickness of the stone, just for clearance.

@skelieskaal4693

4 жыл бұрын

Doug Napier thank you!

What’s the minimum thickness of the metal would be great for gypsy setting?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on the size stone you are setting. Thick enough so the bottom of the stone doesn’t protrude through.

@sweetrytch

3 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk Thank you for responding...I want to add 1.50-1.75 stone on a 2.2mm metal. Would that be enough?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

3 жыл бұрын

@@sweetrytch Should be.

A stone setting wizard

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

5 жыл бұрын

You're too kind.

Thanks! "Its as easy as that" haha

Where can I get your flush setting tool?

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

3 жыл бұрын

I make my own. Here is how: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKNqtJSgiKfKaZM.html

@juanchavez9634

3 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk thank you for replying but I was asking about the burnished holder

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanchavez9634 the burnished holder is called a “Pin Vise”. You can get them just about anywhere tools are sold.

@juanchavez9634

3 жыл бұрын

@@DougNapierJewelryMonk thank you 👍🏻

Might be nice work - but not very easy to see what you are doing most of the time. Phil (from philongold)

@DougNapierJewelryMonk

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, might have to try a different camera angle.