Flow Control Faucets and Balanced Draft Systems Working Together

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I bought an Intertap flow control faucet (model 8473) to help minimize foam while pouring more highly carbonated beers, ciders, and even root beers from my kegerator. However, I discovered that a flow control tap wasn't enough on its own to control foam and still required a somewhat balanced draft system with a proper beer line length to get a good pour.
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  • @ShortCircuitedBrewers
    @ShortCircuitedBrewers5 жыл бұрын

    No substitute for doing it right! Good video! 👍🍻

  • @jonfournier2338
    @jonfournier23387 ай бұрын

    I switched to a Micro Matic commercial kegerator with a fan cooled tower and placed the CO2 tank inside. I used ultra barrier gas and liquid lines 7' coupled with SS Oetiker clamps. The stainless steel tower shank bowls were polished to reduce nucleation sites and I attached SS Perlick flow control faucets. Everything is very cold the laser thermometer is showing temps anywhere between 38 and 55° inside the kegerator, keg, CO2 cylinder and tower. Finally a perfect pour and yes I'm still crying. Thanks Larry keep up the good work.

  • @jacktorrance7639
    @jacktorrance76395 жыл бұрын

    thanks for explaining. I've been wondering about this very subject for a while. I will try out the balanced system. Thanks for sharing again! awesome.

  • @mrjc12
    @mrjc123 жыл бұрын

    Have flow control faucets and was wondering about cider psi. This video was perfect!! Thank you sir!!

  • @derekp6636
    @derekp66363 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Larry! It wasn't this vid but another of yours where i saw the tip to just lengthen my line. Hope to build a proper bar someday, until then it comes out smooth with 10' and a picnic tap.

  • @jamescb3
    @jamescb35 жыл бұрын

    Hey Larry! Newer subscriber to the channel, never commented on here before. Just want to say that I love the videos, you're my favorite brewer on youtube. Keep up the great work!

  • @JohnKaufmann
    @JohnKaufmann Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man you saved me from making an error. I'll start with the calculations to determine the right balance. I won't be doing much outside American ales so it should be pretty much set once it get it right.

  • @johnmal801
    @johnmal8014 жыл бұрын

    Nice bar Larry. I remember the drop down on the back side of the bar.. Good video.

  • @shockwavebg1246
    @shockwavebg12465 жыл бұрын

    Hi Larry from Australia, you can now buy a flow control ball lock that will solve your problems, buy from kegland, great videos

  • @brewing8094
    @brewing80945 жыл бұрын

    The Kegland Flow Control Ball Lock Keg Disconnect works really well at the keg end instead of the tap end. Great if you want to serve different styles of 🍺 beer with higher psi pressure. I was amazed, they cranked up to 30psi over pressure and turned down the pressure on top of the ball lock disconect and the 🍺 beer come out perfectly with nice head. I recently made 2 tasty 5 gallon Pilsners 🍻🍺🍻🍺🍻 and serving at 12psi and wanted a few more bubbles at 13-14psi works very well. I'm using the Intertaps with springs.

  • @BeerByTheNumbers
    @BeerByTheNumbers5 жыл бұрын

    More great tips. Love doing things the optimal way. Thanks for the info!

  • @jennifergutierrez8137

    @jennifergutierrez8137

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey larry just wanted to know if this Applies to a nitro system as well? Probably a dumb question.

  • @jennifergutierrez8137

    @jennifergutierrez8137

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY thanks buddy

  • @BeerWineandShine
    @BeerWineandShine Жыл бұрын

    Well i guess this answeres my question from your other video. Bummer. Well glad i didnt go crazy on ordering them. Still may give one a try.

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a product, a flow restrictor, that attaches directly to the keg post which can be tuned to control flow rate at the start of the beer line (rather than at the end like in a FC faucet). It works much better but still only works well if the line is reasonably balanced.

  • @Mohanz
    @Mohanz5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, great advice. I've just bought 2 new Intertap FC taps for my kegerator as serving highly carbed beers like Saisons, Brut IPAs etc is getting hard with my standard system (and i have 3 different styles on tap at any given time). I'm also replacing my lines to 4m per side using 6mm I.D tubing - so hopefully this balances things out to serve at 12psi at around 4-5 Degrees Celsius

  • @Mohanz

    @Mohanz

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY haha yeah I just finished your spreadsheet so about to head to the brew store! Smallest ID lines I can get to fit the corney outposts is 5.5mm though...

  • @wutzzz138
    @wutzzz1385 жыл бұрын

    Larry, in my eyes, you are the educated & scientific cross between Homer Simpson & Dexter from Dexter’s Labs. Subscriber here!

  • @mattharris2018
    @mattharris20185 жыл бұрын

    Larry. I’ve only ever used picnic taps. I’ve found though, that if you restrict the flow the beer comes out foamy. I always open up fully as quickly as possible and usually have little problems.

  • @frallorfrallor3410
    @frallorfrallor3410 Жыл бұрын

    3/16 lines are the best never get foam issuses🤗

  • @patrickglaser1560
    @patrickglaser15608 ай бұрын

    Necro post: a font cooler is critical. If your faucets aren't sweating you're gonna have foamover. Yup, flow control can only do so much. It helps but you'll still be fiddling with the gas input.

  • @jeffpearljam1976
    @jeffpearljam19765 жыл бұрын

    I have the same flow control faucet. It’s works great. I have 8 feet of line, and when I pour I start small, but once the tower chills, I open it.

  • @phantomcreamer

    @phantomcreamer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Should have a cooled tower

  • @phantomcreamer

    @phantomcreamer

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Do you have a T-tower or a flow through?

  • @firemanjohn98
    @firemanjohn985 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on the Gov Reg Inline Secondary Pressure Regulator. Do you think it would work on your setup?

  • @stirlingarcher2141
    @stirlingarcher21415 жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation Larry. It's obvious a your a thinker and know your system well. I think that's the best way to look at problems like this to get them sorted, tweak and try your equipment until control is won. Like all things worth having, knowledge of your brew house is usually achieved through trial & error no matter how well someone else's setup works for them :-0 Thanks for your videos mate I always look forward to watching them :-0

  • @carimage
    @carimage5 жыл бұрын

    Great information as usual Larry thank you. I have a balanced Keezer tap set up as per your information - works perfect. As a matter of interest I also use flow control taps direct on keg posts and for 10-14 psi they work like a dream pour - but I have a wheat beer on tap and you’re right at higher carbonation the balance is tricky.

  • @mickeyperre5192
    @mickeyperre51925 жыл бұрын

    A quick question on the flow control. What happens if you are in the range of 5 psi? Ie you normally serve at 10-12psi and you go to 13-16. I can understand the double jump 10 to 20 would cause issues. My thought is the flow control would work well up to a certain pressure amount where the deviations aren’t great. Would be great to find out :)

  • @GenusBrewing
    @GenusBrewing5 жыл бұрын

    Luv me some flow control intertap :)

  • @asshattery

    @asshattery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mine were useless, my balanced system with great pours turned in to glass of foam like what he showed...

  • @CanadianBrewingChannel
    @CanadianBrewingChannel5 жыл бұрын

    And I think I have the same Danby Keg fridge as you!

  • @johneagle1855
    @johneagle18554 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget carbonation lvl, temperature and line sealing can also come into play.

  • @williamharr1325
    @williamharr13254 жыл бұрын

    Is there such a thing as having too LONG a beer line? Thanks again for putting this video and your balancing video together! :D

  • @doublecee3385
    @doublecee33854 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video and all, but if you don't have the balancing issued to the extent that you do, I get the feeling that these flow control taps could probably solve the issue fairly easily. For example, in that second clip where you were pouring the foam for a good 7 or 8 seconds, yeah, I agree, it's probably not going to fix the issue in that situation, but if you someone like me that doesn't really understand how the whole balancing thing works, and doesn't necessarily want understand, it's a viable solution for someone like me. I've got this exact same issue but nowhere need to the extent that you demonstrated, I'm pouring foam for about maybe 3 to 5 seconds, and then everything after that it's just beer, but at 12 psi you're still going to have a reasonably thick head, if I had the ability to mitigate the flow for the first few seconds and then crank it up to serving flow, I would still get reasonable head but I don't think it would be anywhere near the amount I'm getting now. I'm not calling bulshit on your video, I just think that these taps could potentially solve the issue if the issue wasn't as serious as you demonstrated.

  • @LouB3rt
    @LouB3rt5 жыл бұрын

    don't fear the foam! =) but I actually prefer a good amount of foam on my beers. Go "check" out the Czech Republic you can order a full glass of foam- but most of their beers are half foam anyway it is part of the experience. Great vidoe as always. Cheers

  • @TheBrewQ
    @TheBrewQ5 жыл бұрын

    Boom! Great tips, Larry! I’ve got a leaky CO2 issue that i have to pinpoint. I’m starting with replacing all kegs’ o-rings and seals. The troubles of a homebrewer. Cheers, bud!

  • @HomeBrewingTV
    @HomeBrewingTV5 жыл бұрын

    So what do you think of the flow control tap itself? I’m thinking of adding three more taps to my keezer. Should I go with the flow control?

  • @HomeBrewingTV

    @HomeBrewingTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good to know. I would have assumed the spring closer would also have worked on the flow control tap.

  • @SubieYam

    @SubieYam

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a perlick flow control and really only serve beer from my kegerator with a balanced line and I love it. it allows for the adjustment of different beer styles and their pressure. also allows you to get a good head on your beer with nice control just by moving the control arm as the beer is pouring. that's how I use it at least. I don't really set a point on the control and just leave it there, I tend to move it as the beer pours to get the perfect pour each time. although I don't always need to play with it but when pouring a beer that's not matched to my system it is a great feature to have. I've also started closing the flow control completely after each pour to ensure I don't have a leak. with the Perlick, well mine at least I can leave the tap completely open but as long as the flow control is closed im pretty leak proof.

  • @EclipseBrewing
    @EclipseBrewing5 жыл бұрын

    I like the flow control taps for quick minor adjustment helps when people come over and the beers come out foamy, good to know they wouldn’t help with cider over pressuring for ciders/wines ....cheers

  • @sierramandtx
    @sierramandtx4 жыл бұрын

    its temperature. that kegorater looks like it uses a cold plate instead of a cooling fan. did numerous service calls on this issue. direct draw systems need no more higher pressure than they would need that faucet. cant even put a cooling hose in that tower which helps.

  • @carlwyatt5036
    @carlwyatt50362 жыл бұрын

    Hey Larry, Carl UK . MOVING fro PB to keg . When carbonating and I have reached my lager carbonation levels for lager ,I then turn down to serving level ,do I leave it connected to gas line or can I uncouple and serve . Cheers fella

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re describing an unbalanced draft system. If you balance your draft system, the pressure is the same and there is no need to fool around with it.

  • @justyn7062
    @justyn70623 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried a flow control at the post rather than the tap. This is apparently the better way as you don’t have the head pressure that you see at the faucet end?

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet but am considering it.

  • @carlwyatt5036
    @carlwyatt50362 жыл бұрын

    Arre you still available for questions my friend . Cheers carl

  • @fmixthings
    @fmixthings4 жыл бұрын

    I have a kegerator set up for one beer style, my favorite that is only available on tap. Recently they changed the keg style to something taller and narrower and they figured out a different way of dry hopping the beer. Could that affect the system at all? I absolutely cannot get a properly poured glass of beer. Foam all day long. I started around 8 psi and worked my way up to 20 psi!!! By then I had a decent beer coming out but it was so fast it still foamed.

  • @fmixthings

    @fmixthings

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY I got the setup from a friend. He got it from Beverage Factory. The new keg style is only an inch or two taller, but I think that is because of added handles. I have to trim down the platform inside the kegerator to let it fit. Overall the keg top for the connection is just a little higher relative to the tap. But still using the same line as before. I will probably get a 15ft hose, currently it is about 5ft. That way I can trim down as needed and could have flexibility for other possible beers. Thanks

  • @fmixthings

    @fmixthings

    4 жыл бұрын

    I ordered a 15ft hose. Hopefully it will be able to fix my problem. I compared the old keg to the new one and the tap is about even height with the keg connection. The old one is about an inch or two lower. That is really the only thing that has changed for me. If you have a video on keg height vs tap height I'd love to see it. Seems like more great info

  • @mblakeborough
    @mblakeborough5 жыл бұрын

    Do you have your root beer recipe posted? In curious to try it.

  • @mblakeborough

    @mblakeborough

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY have you thought about doing a video review of different kegerators such as the kegland series 4 3 tap with build in tower cooler and other ones similar?

  • @12schnsaint

    @12schnsaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY that would be great. I'm been looking at getting a kegerator but just can't find a brand i would like to go with..

  • @rocksoft5433
    @rocksoft54333 жыл бұрын

    What are your specs for an average cider? Psi, temp, hose length

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    3 жыл бұрын

    I prefer highly carbonated cider (~2.8-3 vols CO2), so I use about 18-20 ft of 3/16 ID which ends up around 14 psi at 36 deg F.

  • 26 күн бұрын

    It looks like the pressure is too low. Have you tried getting higher with the CO2 pressure? When using a compensator you want to make sure your beer doesn't release any gas bofore the flow control gap, so you might need to increase the pressue a little. 22psi/1.5bar should be absolutely in the working range of a compensator faucet...

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    26 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the question. My pressures are always exactly where they need to be for proper carbonation levels which typically is 8-12 psi to cover the range of beer styles I brew. If you add pressure above what you need or want in the beer then the beer gets over carbonated. You should never need to add (or drop) pressure in a balanced draft system. (To balance, you need to adjust the length and diameter of your beer line.) If you feel you have to add/drop pressure to get a decent pour then your system is not balanced and any foaming from a flow control faucet is the least of your problem with your draft system.

  • @CanadianBrewingChannel
    @CanadianBrewingChannel5 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a waste of money! I did what you did Larry. I have 12 feet of line and keep my pressure at 20 psi. It works great! Cheers!

  • @asshattery

    @asshattery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolute waste of money, they ruin even a balanced system.

  • @rocksoft5433

    @rocksoft5433

    3 жыл бұрын

    With 3/16 ID?

  • @CanadianBrewingChannel

    @CanadianBrewingChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rocksoft5433 i believe so. What ever beer line is.

  • @joshuapinter
    @joshuapinter3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Last question: Intertap or Perlick?

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Forward sealing designs of any brand should be fine. Just beware of Chinese knockoff especially Intertap. Rumor has it that they can also add to foam issues due to poor surface roughness on the interior.

  • @joshuapinter

    @joshuapinter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY Thanks for the tip. Picked up a few Intertap Flow Control faucets from a legit distributor so hopefully it all works well.

  • @themall1314
    @themall13145 жыл бұрын

    Is that 10ft of 1/4" tubing? Also, what's your elevation?

  • @BeerWineandShine
    @BeerWineandShine Жыл бұрын

    So I've been doing some research. They change the design of the inner tap. It is now called nuka tap. They change the design of the flow Control. It's supposed to be a lot better. I bought one. I guess we will see

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not much better. Only incrementally. I also have Nukatap. Still causes foaming if the lines aren’t balanced.

  • @BeerWineandShine

    @BeerWineandShine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY The more I learn The more I understand How/Why Things work. I think I have found the solution To the long line problem, I am hoping the faucets will eliminate The need to ever change the lines lengths Once they are painstakingly installed. Keezer build.

  • @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    @BEERNBBQBYLARRY

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BeerWineandShine I just use the longest line needed for the most highly carbonated style I brew so that all beer styles are accommodated. Downside is that the lowest carbonated style takes a tad longer to pour.

  • @BeerWineandShine

    @BeerWineandShine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BEERNBBQBYLARRY lol, And that brings me to my next slew Of problems. I have absolutely no idea Carbonation levels Different beer styles need. Nor do I know what styles of beer I will settle on the most. I am trying to broaden my horizons, I know that I do not like bitterness. I have a lot to learn

  • @redpill8222
    @redpill82224 жыл бұрын

    I can’t get my first keg balanced 🤬

  • @redpill8222

    @redpill8222

    4 жыл бұрын

    BEER-N-BBQ by Larry After watching some of your videos and others it is my lines I need to get the 3/16” line and replace my 1/4”. Thank you Larry I have learned so much from your videos 👍

  • @bradleyglossop
    @bradleyglossop5 жыл бұрын

    This would've been a super interesting and even useful video if you had shown the difference, on the same keg with the same beer, the additional beer line to balance the higher pressure would've made to the pour. I am also struggling with beer foam in my last two batches.

  • @dalejoy193
    @dalejoy1935 жыл бұрын

    Balance your line 10 - 10.5 feet and all good . Love your work Larry, your food recipes are great as well. I have used a few at my Aussie BBQ's...........Big hit

  • @OldNorsebrewery
    @OldNorsebrewery5 жыл бұрын

    I have 20 ft beer lines so I don`t need flow control because they don`t work as intended. Cheers

  • @OldNorsebrewery

    @OldNorsebrewery

    5 жыл бұрын

    BEER-N-BBQ by Larry I pour slow and steady. About 20 second for a pint glass, but just shy of a one finger head on 12 psi keg. I`m happy with that. Cheers

  • @davidlarsen2184

    @davidlarsen2184

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't a smaller diameter do the same as longer length since you are looking for line resistance?

  • @harefieldscraftcider256
    @harefieldscraftcider2562 жыл бұрын

    I'm over half way through and still waiting to move on to the solution not to mention the 45 seconds at the beggining before he addresses the title of the video. That's hundreds of minutes wasted for all the combined viewers. 3/4 way through and he's still repeating himself.

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