Apply for a refund... All my taxes, please return them.

@andrewd.conard5088

Ай бұрын

Yes, absolutely!!

@MsDropofrain

Ай бұрын

with interest!

@jacksalem6472

Ай бұрын

You still pay taxes when you’re in the US as a permanent resident and you don’t get retirement😊

@Sammieannliz25

Ай бұрын

It doesn't work like that.

@andreslopez293

Ай бұрын

@@jacksalem6472 Permanent Residents do get retirement dumb ass

He was american when he was paying, time to collect "No you are not." Sound like a scam to me

@rosario_farina

Ай бұрын

Yep...absolutely

@pablovonduckbill7802

Ай бұрын

ask for free room, food, prepaid debt card, and airfare all the other illegals get it.

@leeman1525

Ай бұрын

Not quite a scam. Non citizens living in the US pay social security taxes. My spouse moved to the US and not a citizen and still have to pay all the same taxes

@TheDarkDresser

Ай бұрын

Someone commented that he has a passport from another country.

@anddygonzales1550

Ай бұрын

This truly shows how screwed up the U.S. really is.

This is absurd! 60+ years of living on US soil, serving his country and paying taxes, and this is how they repay him? Stupid system….

@TarulWarlord

Ай бұрын

Equal Law for everyone. There are hundreds of thousands who actually have lost limbs fighting for the USA and are still not considered eligible to be US citizen. No special favor to him just because he is white. Back of the line he needs to go, and wait for his turn.

@JuanCollins69

25 күн бұрын

He signed up. He didn’t serve

@Ebani

23 күн бұрын

All by design

@pope406

22 күн бұрын

He should have checked himself.

@josephdonais4778

20 күн бұрын

...and paying into social security, the thing he is being denied. I am infuriated.

If his dad was American, why would he have to prove his dad lived in the US for 10 years before he was born? I don't get it

@XxMobileWizXx

23 күн бұрын

Technically, you only qualify for citizenship by descent if one parent lived in the country for a certain period, even if the parent is a citizen. They seem to be operating under the old law, given the 10-year requirement. However, the current physical presence requirements are as follows: - The parent has been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for at least 5 years. - The parent met this physical presence requirement for at least 2 years after reaching 14 years of age.

@Ariel-uj3kk

23 күн бұрын

@@XxMobileWizXxbut he said his father was born and raised in New York.

@Longknife

21 күн бұрын

@@XxMobileWizXx Wasn't aware of these. Are these new? I'm a dual citizen, so for me this would mean if I have a kid after living abroad - even IF that kid were born in the USA - the kid will not receive US citizenship?

@XxMobileWizXx

20 күн бұрын

@@Longknife Yes your child would be a citizen because anyone born in the borders of the USA gets citizenship at birth even if the parents are in the country illegally. What I was saying is for children born abroad outside the USA to an American parent.

@iWillbe90

19 күн бұрын

It's because birthright citizenship is only enshrined in the Constitution for those born on American soil. Those born overseas who may become citizens at birth through a parent, receive citizenship through Acts of Congress, not through the Constitution. At the time he was born, the law that Congress had passed, stated that not only did a parent have to be an American citizen, but they had to have had certain residency requirements in the US. This would have prevented for instance, someone who was born in the United States (and so had birthright Constitutional citizenship), but then who's family moved to a foreign country (say England) when they were young (say 3 years old) and they spent the rest of their lives in England, that person who was born in the US, had US citizenship, but spent the rest of their lives in England, would not be able to pass their American citizenship to their own children because they didn't have enough years living in America despite being a US citizen.

Either pay him social security or give him all his money back.

@benbrown9053

Ай бұрын

No because the silly man lived 60 years using our roads just like you and I pay. Being white does not give him a pass.

@AF-ib8ec

Ай бұрын

with interest compounded daily

@KlaudiaShaefferr

Ай бұрын

He must apply to derived citizenship and then retroactively restore all the benefits he’s entitled to His father should’ve registered him at American embassy in Canada and made the American passport for him. Instead, he probably brought him from Canada either with a Canadian passport or birth certificate.

@user-qf9fd2wg7j

Ай бұрын

The GOVERNMENT ALREADY SPENT HIS MONEY ON XMAS BONOUSES AND SENT IT TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO HELP THEM INSTEAD

@sasquatchwithinternetacces2940

Ай бұрын

Id much rather have the money than social security. If i invested all the money ive paid into ssi, that ill never get, id be much better off.

"Welcome to America. The land of Fee"

@myanimeroom9350

Ай бұрын

I like that. Mind if I borrow it?

@baby_joe

Ай бұрын

Ah yes, America is the freest place in the world. Just ask anyone whose never left the country 😅

@sansore8868

Ай бұрын

And home of the Knave.

@SerPounceToebeans

Ай бұрын

Land that was stolen you mean.

@Zeevuhl

Ай бұрын

@@myanimeroom9350miNd iF I BoRroW iT?🤓🤓🤓

So, he's been voting, joined the military, paid his taxes and now it's an issue. Really? He should be given a total refund for all the taxes he has paid, that's terrible.

@bernadettelanders7306

19 күн бұрын

So if you aren’t a citizen of America you don’t pay taxes to America. But he did. I totally agree with you. In the eyes of the government/tax department, he wasn’t required to pay American tax as they say he’s not American, but he did pay tax - so refund him the money he wasn’t supposed to pay - simple.

@peterc.1618

15 күн бұрын

@@bernadettelanders7306 If you work in the US, you have to pay tax there even if you are not a citizen.

@bernadettelanders7306

14 күн бұрын

@@peterc.1618 Yup. Heard that. Also heard, must find interviews, or u can - if you are American and move here to Australia you still have to pay tax in America as well as here.i think it’s in any country they move to, not sure, must watch it again. Poor Americans were shocked when they found out. I did a quick google. *All U.S. citizens, regardless of other nationalities they may hold, maintain their obligations to the United States, including the requirement to file annual tax returns.

It seems to be an universal thing that whenever your money is coming out of your pocket, you have zero problems anywhere in the world, but when is time to get paid, there’s always an issue everywhere… Amazing…

@Al-ks5fh

21 күн бұрын

IRS takes money out of your account fast, when it’s time to get your refund it takes months.

@pedroparamo-fw6ez

5 күн бұрын

It does happen everywhere.

Really ? He had a SS card. Paid taxes. Served our country.

@graycat117

Ай бұрын

Having social security doesn’t make you a citizen, even permanent residents (green card holders) get those.

@Anhedonis

Ай бұрын

He’s not the only one in this situation. Plenty of others who serve in the military, pay taxes, and have a SS card are not citizens.

@neilkurzman4907

Ай бұрын

And yet for purposes of Social Security, he’s in an illegal alien

@fluxcapacitor1621

Ай бұрын

DEPORT!

@bobbymoss6160

Ай бұрын

You're just as confused as the guy in the video...

The America system loves to take your money but doesn't like to give it back.

@yeetcannon1693

Ай бұрын

The American dream is the American scam

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

Story of the ROWs life concerning these Theives to be honest. I mean, it’s why they were sent over the Atlantic to begin with…

@mho...

Ай бұрын

.....lol name a system, that prefers spending, then making money!

@pattyjames2446

Ай бұрын

Wrong … it gives to the illegal immigrants.

@mnirwin5112

Ай бұрын

I live in Canada. Trust me, it ain't just the American system.

I lived in US for 7 years, I had drivers license ane social security, but I wasn't US citizen. Having those does not mean you are a citizen. How he voted for 40 years is beyond me. That says alot about American election results.

@ajc5298

Ай бұрын

rigged is called.

@anthonyhernandez6230

Ай бұрын

But if you have a social security card and live here paying taxes you should be a citizen.

@sr-xd8jb

Ай бұрын

@@anthonyhernandez6230 nope. Even H1B workers from India have social security which they know from beginning is a wated tax they are paying.

@trekadvisor2865

28 күн бұрын

BS. He’s legal. The border crossers are illegal.

@aphasiagaming

28 күн бұрын

it says a lot about how america is held together with popscicle sticks and paper clips. actually scary how incompetent every single government entity is. there had to be MANY mistakes in succession for this to occur for so long

damn canadians voting in our elections.

@corvacopia

27 күн бұрын

I think this probably is mostly only able to happen with people old enough that they could have that history of stuff without it being checked

Refund this mans paid taxes as a whole. Shame on US!

@frodo_banggin

Ай бұрын

plus 8% interests like the IRS do when you miss your tax payment.

@neilkurzman4907

Ай бұрын

So you want to give all illegals Social Security tax refunds? Or all of their taxes. Because a lot of them pay if you do contact your representative because there’s no law that allows the government to do that.

@kaym7704

Ай бұрын

This illegal man stole jobs from Americans…no refund for him.

@user-otzlixr

Ай бұрын

lol, if you are not a citizen, and are working in the U.S…you still pay taxes. Don’t be so eager to display your ignorance.

@victorluke5816

Ай бұрын

Or deport him so that we don't have to pay for another illegal alien.

“He even voted?” Y’all hear that?!?!?

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

Illegally it seems.

@HighlordFrancis

Ай бұрын

Illegal immigrant and illegal voting. Why is he not deported yet?

@Stephie2007

Ай бұрын

​@@xwarped83 He didn't know that at the time.

@Mhdz-ne4pi

Ай бұрын

Murika

@angelainamarie9656

Ай бұрын

​@@Stephie2007ignorance of the law is no excuse. He's committed dozens of Acts of voting fraud.

He doesnt need to prove his father was a resident for ten years prior to his birth. Citizenship always passes to one generation. His father’s birth in NY is all he needs. It would be different if his father was born outside the USA

@Western_ENT

20 күн бұрын

No, not different, citizenship don't have different ranks like that, the only exception being running for US presidency! I don't know about back in his father's day if it was a thing, but nowadays, if you're ALDREADY a citizen, NATURAL or NATURALIZED citizen, then your BABY born outside of the US AFTER citizenship acquisition is AUTOMATICALLY a CITIZEN! This case is a no brainer, coz his dad was born and raised in the US!

@iWillbe90

19 күн бұрын

Not true. Learn the law.

@bigmike7385

15 күн бұрын

No. Do not ever speak or write another KZread comment again. I forbid you.

@peterc.1618

15 күн бұрын

I'd be surprised if the US does not require children born abroad to a US parent to be registered with the US embassy in the country of birth. After all, the US needs to know where all their citizens are so that they can tax them every year regardless of where in the world they live and work.

@MrTheUtubewatcher

14 күн бұрын

You are eligible for citizenship at birth if one parent is a us citizen but only if they fill out the necessary paperwork. if they don't till you turn 21 your out of luck. This actually happened to a lot of adopted children.

I don't blame him wanting to leave America

Sounds like someone found a loophole to not give him money.

@zeroturn7091

Ай бұрын

One would call that doing your job. Blame the bozos that let him slip through the cracks.

@liamevans1508

Ай бұрын

@@zeroturn7091Nah blame the bozos stealing from him now. “But bureaucracy rules!” is a poor excuse for allowing a government to steal a man’s hard earned retirement.

@sistinechroma

Ай бұрын

yes and that someone is getting a performance bonus

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

@@zeroturn7091he should blame himself.

@mike4402

Ай бұрын

Or someone found a loophole to not have him deported

This is a real slap in the face and an insult to the uniforms he wore in service to the US.

@memonavaramirez6261

Ай бұрын

He's just another immigrant, get him back to his country 😂😂

@Brandon-qr2or

Ай бұрын

He wore it with fraudulent documents. We are not looking at this stuff on an individual case by case. If you are here illegally, you gotta go

@ElisArid

Ай бұрын

​@@Brandon-qr2orLike how you're here illegally after committing genocide on the natives? Sounds like trespassing, battery, felony theft, grand larsony, 1st degree murder, false imprisonment, etc.

@Brakzillaa

Ай бұрын

​@@Brandon-qr2or that "illegal" vet as you call him, is more American than you will ever be.

@maxmx767

Ай бұрын

He got caught 😂

They were more than willing to accept money from him without being a citizen but when he asked for money back they became greedy.

@Alan-wj5zc

27 күн бұрын

Yeah bud that is what happens to illegals all the time, they get an ITIN and pay taxes, social security medicare all that stuff and sometimes they won't ever see a social security check.

@killgoretrout877

24 күн бұрын

"sometimes they won't ever see a social security check" they shouldn't lol @@Alan-wj5zc

@iamhereblossom1588

4 күн бұрын

Yup just like all illegals. Funny how you all care when it’s a light skinned person.

His mother being American, doesnt that entitle him to American citizenship?

You don't need to be a US citizen to collect Social Security benefits, but you must be a legal resident.

@hestiaa9354

Ай бұрын

But you can be undocumented and still have to pay Social Security taxes-even though you are ineligible to collect benefits.

@Fakemarcel

Ай бұрын

That is a complete lie. Illegal immigrants get no social security benefits but still have to pay all the taxes US citizens have to pay, being a legal resident also doesn’t allow you to get benefits you must be a citizen or you get nothing from the federal government.

@oaktharas

Ай бұрын

😂so he’s not even a permanent resident?

@celebrityrog

Ай бұрын

You also have to have paid into it. You don’t get to just be like “Hello, I’m a recovering crackhead and this is my r-tarded sister I take care of. I’d like some welfare please” and just get it.

@jebnajerp2673

Ай бұрын

His father is a US Citizen. Therefore he is US citizen by one of the parents.

Usa went from American Dream to American Nightmare literally

@user-bf2lq1lf4v

Ай бұрын

It's def not perfect, but it is still a desired destination for many.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

It always was but the internet has exposed the great Satan for what it truly is.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

Look through American history you’ll see it has been like this since day one.

@starofdabloc

Ай бұрын

No people don’t read the laws of the land and think they can do whatever they want

@ououkuaipao

27 күн бұрын

​@@user-bf2lq1lf4v no more

Its crazy how many people think Immigrants dont pay taxes

@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy

19 күн бұрын

All Americans

@bigmike7385

15 күн бұрын

Undocumented immigrants pay $11.6 billion per year and cost $151 billion.

@davidryanree

5 күн бұрын

@@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy Not all Americans think this way. Just the uneducated ones.

Oh so now since it’s not a Hispanic y’all are sympathetic. My father came to this country from Mexico when he was 17 he lived here for 40 years. He had his drivers license and social and even paid his taxes and bills. Just for him to get deported in 2017 when he applied for a better paying job. We’re was all this sympathy then?

How was he not legal citizen if he voted? And pay taxes

@EchoJ

Ай бұрын

Sounds like he’s been getting the benefit of the doubt his whole life (likely due to skin tone, if we’re being honest).

@CPATuttle

Ай бұрын

Foreigners don’t need to pay taxes?

@tiffanylamp100

Ай бұрын

His father was an American. That automatically makes him a U.S. citizen.

@slave2apup279

Ай бұрын

@@tiffanylamp100 That logic wasn't acceptable for Barrack Obama. What is the difference?

@scottcantdance804

Ай бұрын

​​@@tiffanylamp100 specific paperwork has to be filed; a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, within 300 days of the birth, I believe. It's not automatic. There are other requirements involved, including, as mentioned in the video, that the parent with citizenship has to reside in the US or it's territories for a specific period of time prior to taking residence in another country.

Regardless of whether he’s a citizen or not, he’s still eligible for those benefits

@hot2trut625

Ай бұрын

Tell that to illegal migrants who paid SS and can’t get it.

@benbrown9053

Ай бұрын

No he's not because you say so? He's already broken the biggest law being here illegally. He's not getting a pass just because he's white. It's his problem he thought he was legal not anybody else's. He needs to move on and leave.

@rbfarrell1

Ай бұрын

Only U.S. citizen's can get social security. You can google it.

@jared9643

Ай бұрын

He's not actually eligible because you need to be a legal resident to collect social security. That's the whole issue.

@aickoyvesschumann3400

Ай бұрын

​@@jared9643 that is not true. It seems like he may be Canadian. There is a treaty in place. Even when he moves back to Canada, he can collect Social Security if he has enough credits which he seems to have.

My grandma came to the US from Liverpool on the Megantic when she was 11 months old. Both her parents died drowning after their small boat in the land of a thousands lakes flipped over in a storm in the 20s. I heard she went through a similar thing in the 70s when she found out she wasn't a citizen. Luckily she was able to work it out when my WW II veteran grandfather passed away and she still received his benefits.

That sucks! I hope it works out for em.

Some rules can sometimes sound stupid. He was American enough for you to collect his taxes but after residing in the US for over 60yrs and served the country, he isn't a legal resident enough to collect benefits.... Someone please make it make sense 😓

@thefrenchbastard1646

Ай бұрын

working exacly as intended there are many imigrants that spend there entire life in the US and get deported to a country they don't even speak the language of because we don't care about the taxes they payed for décades we just don't like how they look

@Sashazur

Ай бұрын

At least the taxes part makes sense. If you live and work here, you pay taxes here. Doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. After all, you are still using the roads, police, etc. that taxes pay for.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

Americas a Ponzi scheme that primarily benefits its native born whites, descendants of prisoners and slave owners that wanted more power than England would give them… Makes sense to you yet?

@Youjeez123

Ай бұрын

Thats bullshit he literally paying for those benefits for years and not just that he serve as police and military ​@@Sashazur

@Nope_handlesaretrash

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile Paco jumps the fence and gets all your tax dollars

If he were Mexican I wonder if people would still feel sympathy.

@mr.b3168

Ай бұрын

That's what Im saying

@lastomen9

Ай бұрын

Probably not unless one of his parents is american

@nekr0ph

Ай бұрын

I think people still would. He gave his everything to the US.

@brittle4024

Ай бұрын

Lol, I would like to hope so.

@feartheghostinme675

Ай бұрын

I wonder what the Native Americans think about this 😂

Poor guy, now he knows how the Dreamers feels.

they should pay him back the money they took from him all these years, how hartbreaking and unfair this country can be. fight to the tooth and nail.

His father was American and he lived all of his lifetime believing he was a US citizen. Why would he question it? Perhaps his parents weren’t aware of the technicalities of his citizenship status either. Maybe the father assumed since he was American and returning to America to live permanently, that was enough. He lived as an American, he paid taxes, he is an American!!! They should just give him his citizenship which he certainly has earned. They want to give away citizenships to illegal immigrants that are willing to serve in us military but they won’t give this man a citizenship? Unbelievable!!!!!

@Nick210

Ай бұрын

I agree with you. However, he knows he was born in Canada and he has a Canadian passport. It’s strange that it never once occurred to him in his adult life that he doesn’t have a Green Card or American Passport.

@jcr1382

Ай бұрын

Nothing personal, but he is an illegal immigrant.

@bbpersonalpage1613

Ай бұрын

That's that crooked system. They are insane

@fluxcapacitor1621

Ай бұрын

Illegal is illegal. He illegally voted for harsh immigrations laws so he should be subjected to them. He should be charged with voter fraud, serve his sentence then be deported after release. Law and order for thee, but not the GOP!

@zion9860

Ай бұрын

His father never took him to a US embassy in Canada to register his birth to a US citizen or never filed a petition for him to become a US permanent resident. That is why he is in this dilemma. Knowledge, process and procedures are very important when a child is born abroad in order to obtain US citizenship.

They took your money. If they won't consider you a "citizen", take them to court for a REFUND!!!

@MrJess1497

Ай бұрын

Yeah Right!!

@necron7436

Ай бұрын

Taking us immigritation to court doesn't hurt their pockets sadly. They get no penalties.

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

You don’t have to be a citizen to pay taxes.

@chuongnguyen5068

Ай бұрын

​@xwarped83 he paid Ss and retirement fund also. Not just taxes

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

@@chuongnguyen5068 you also don’t have to be a citizen to pay into those things. You can get a SS number as a permanent resident. As far as a retirement fund, that could be thru his employer, he can collect that but can’t collect SS until he fixes his immigration status. Any other bright ideas?

He even got a CCW permit from NJ… which is harder to get than a Top Secret clearance!

That’s very sad, I hope he gets his money. He deserves it. I wish you the best sir

How many Latino adults are in his same shoes but are being sent to countries they've never stepped foot in since being infants?

@MuzzaHukka

Ай бұрын

Potatoes and gold bar comparison - your Latinos are not American at birth, this dude is

@IslandStew

Ай бұрын

Sadly true. Why are we spending money and time on this old man when theres tens of millions of Spanish speaking ignorant low skilled illegals

@mightydeku

Ай бұрын

Right!? This man should be lucky he’s not getting deported.

@VapingCatOfficial

Ай бұрын

Ahhh yes, first comment I see bringing race into this. Why don’t you go actually do a research paper on what you’re saying and then show me and maybe I’ll take your comment seriously.

@martingallegos1250

Ай бұрын

The only reason he hasn’t been deported is bc of his color

This is not a senate issue. You need to contact your local congressman

@Fernando5455Jr

Ай бұрын

Both the House representatives and the US Senate can aid their constituents, as long as it is a federal issue, which is clearly is

@edwinodus

Ай бұрын

@@Fernando5455Jr Im sure senator Cruz of Texas would love to help him because they have exactly same situation. I'm not sure he could use other state federal officials

@Fernando5455Jr

Ай бұрын

@@edwinodus Realistically, Only those two government offices, I used to intern for a house of representative member, problem is we can’t force immigration to change their mind, that would definitely be more legal in nature, or to see if any mistakes were made.

@vanlifewithbao7917

Ай бұрын

@@edwinodus its Florida fu

@Epsilonsama

22 күн бұрын

​@@vanlifewithbao7917 this is an immigration office issue. As someone who knows a congressman he tells me that the worst government administration is the immigration office because they are always hiding behind some BS rule to hide accountability.

Oh I have the same case 😂 I thought I was alone

He voted ..??? 😮he need to go to the jail

That is terrible. Shame on you America!

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

Maybe he should have taken care of his immigration status on his own. Why is that America’s fault?

@gregoryharris8706

Ай бұрын

America, never at any time " the land of opportunities "

@plmburke23

Ай бұрын

@@xwarped83how was he to work on his immigration status issue if he didn’t even know he had an issue. It was reasonable for him to assume his citizenship was secured. His father American, served in the marines, had a social security card etc.

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

@@plmburke23 Ask him, he had his whole life to figure that out. Having and American father doesn’t automatically make you a citizen. Joining the marines doesn’t make you a citizen either, he also did not serve in the marines. He was going to join but he got another job. Social security cards are not only given to citizens. The point is, this isn’t America’s fault.

@sriracharooster

Ай бұрын

Anyone that serves in the United States military automatically gets service and ship the problem is he did not serve in the military at all his father did there doesn’t make him a US citizen if he would’ve joined the Marines and served he would’ve got his citizenship

That's stupid, he's got evidence that he's been there for 60 years and still doesn't get anything? That's a flat out scam.

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

Nope, it isn’t. He should have taken care of his immigration status and he would not have a problem now.

@j.p.4199

Ай бұрын

He's not unique snowflake. There are hundred thousands of dreamers who lived here for 30+ years and paid into social security but won't be able to benefit from it. if he truly believe in his ideals then he should deport himself to canada

@enlargedquack

Ай бұрын

@@xwarped83Are you actually defending the government in this instance? The man’s been a functioning citizen for 60 years, the government had enough information on him to decide he could pay taxes buy a home and work but as soon as he tries to get his social security benefits he’s not a citizen? You’d have to be an idiot to think that’s his fault.

@0bsmith0

Ай бұрын

The US is a massive scam.

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

@@enlargedquack I take it that you don’t live in the US. Am I correct? He may have been “functioning” but he’s not a citizen. The government is not going to update your immigration status unless the individual starts the process. Taxes are collected from everyone that works, citizen or not. Benefits are paid out to those with citizenship or permanent residency. Yes, this is his fault because he did not apply to correct his immigration status. The only idiot here is you since you’re commenting on a subject that you clearly have no idea how it works. Hopefully you learned something today.

It sounds like he probably actually should be considered a citizen, but his dad didn’t get the correct documentation for there to be records of it

@killgoretrout877

24 күн бұрын

This is the correct answer. Entitled foreigner couldnt be bothered to fill out some forms

Now he knows how mexicans and mexican americans feel😂

@KristinRyans

26 күн бұрын

Mexicans haven't been there since the 50s tho! And most of them that came illegal, came as adults so is different...they come into the country knowing that they're illegal!

This is outrageous. They issued him all his documents and let him work until he was an old man then gives him the middle finger. Can’t say I’m surprised. This system is so wicked and the people in charge are worse. Imagine how they treated the native peoples and the slaves that they brought here for hundreds of years before they were even considered humans. Not to mention how they neglect our veterans. Anyway social security will run out of money in 10 years so they will scrape wherever to try and save it.

25 күн бұрын

You realize the people who processed his social security number 50+ years ago are not even there anymore, right? This is not because of people in the government being wicked or evil. It's just a system that needs fixing through legislation in a humane and integral way.

@CageandCorners

25 күн бұрын

Just make sure you’re eligible to retire within in the next 10 years because SS is slated to run out of funds after that we are all going to end up like the old man in this story. That’s not a probability that is facts. Do your readers, the US is 35 trillion dollars in debt and it will take 5 generations to pay that back. There has never been a civilization since the beginning of time that has ever come out of any debt as great. Do your research and then tell me if the system and leaders are not wicked

The problem is he won't qualify for Canadian pension plan because he never contributed to it.

@lilclip6134

Ай бұрын

Sadly...

@sputteringsputnik

Ай бұрын

But he'll have access to free healthcare

@lilclip6134

Ай бұрын

@@sputteringsputnik fair enough...

@ItzAwsomeWasTaken

Ай бұрын

@@sputteringsputnikFree healthcare ( that they use excuses to not give you, and it’s crap ) and high taxes 😃

@wrestlingterrier8366

Ай бұрын

He'll get OAS (Old Age Security) which is very little to live on.

Sounds like a great system.

How does this happen?

His parents dropped the ball. They should be the ones who get the immigration petitions filed for this man when he was a child. I had to do this for my daughter, who was born overseas and moved back here when she was 11 months old. She had her documents filed with USCIS and she was naturalized when she was 19.

@beckypetersen2680

Ай бұрын

When our children were born abroad we received a paper that says US Citizen born abroad very clearly on the birth certificate.

@user-st6nt4ou6f

Ай бұрын

I kept waiting to read what should have been done, by his parents, when he was born. They just assumed he was American without checking ? He came from Canada with a Canadian and an American parent right? He was not born in the US, was he ? Then why didn't his parents check his legal status?

@ozysjahputera7669

Ай бұрын

​@beckypetersen2680 you reported the birth to the US embassy or consulate? I bet his parents did not.

@doujinflip

27 күн бұрын

​That's what happened. His dad didn't file for his Consular Report of Birth Abroad at the local US consulate and formalize his _jus sanguinis_ citizenship at birth.

@corvacopia

27 күн бұрын

@@user-st6nt4ou6fhow would they have known they had to? Most countries don’t have all these requirements that the US does; I’ve never lived in Canada and I didn’t have my birth registered as Canadian living abroad or anything, I lived in the US my whole life, but because I meet the criteria that was in place when I was born of my mom having been born or naturalized in Canada; I do not have documentation of me being a citizen, but Canadian law is pretty explicit that I am a citizen now, and would just need to show evidence that my mom is a naturalized citizen to get documentation showing it

He is not asking for a hand out. He should get what he paid for.

@Sulfen

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately a ton of immigrants pay into the system like him and either get no benefits or very little. And even with the Social Security Administration stealing people's incomes without a guarantee of benefit they still ran it to the ground and the Social Security is going to run out of funds before millennials can retire.

@jaynemo674

Ай бұрын

He is literally asking for a handout. Is his whiteness blinding you? Maybe he should pull himself up by his goddam bootstraps and stop whining for handouts like a welfare queen.

@TrU_homie

Ай бұрын

Na he’s illegal

@0bsmith0

Ай бұрын

He should get all of his money back.

@jeremyjackson7429

Ай бұрын

He's a criminal illegal alien that cast many illegal votes. As a former cop (or should I say, an illegal police impersonator), he should abide by his favorite catchphrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse"

After working a whole life- lives in a caravan = American dream😂

This is how any Latino worker feels after spending their entire lives serving a country that never recognizes them as equal and doesn’t even offer them social security, but it’s fun how he gets so much support from other Americans. Maybe because he’s yt?

There was a similar situation with a black man and his birth certificate. Majority of the comments had zero sympathy for him and blamed him for the problem. He was like 20 years old. This man is 66. Theres no excuse

@ifyjoanna

Ай бұрын

@@TedBundy1989 ummm no the other dude couldn't collect anything. The vital statistics did not put his name on his birth certificate. He couldn't get a id, he couldn't get a social security card, which didn't allow him to get a job. Your assumption is the exact reason for my original comment.

@mnirwin5112

Ай бұрын

@@ifyjoanna Would you expect any better logic or grasp of facts from somebody with that for a screen name? 😆

@mnirwin5112

Ай бұрын

I wonder did he *never* look at his birth certificate? Which would have made it clear he was born outside the U.S.? And if he did, did he *never* wonder if his American citizenship was in fact secure? And where the hell were his citizenship papers? It sounds as if he was just drifting through those decades "assuming" everything was FINEFINEFINE. And we all know the old saw about "assuming" things.

@joseisrael1119

Ай бұрын

You know everything is about what race you are in merkkka. Yet most deny their reality

@joseisrael1119

Ай бұрын

@@TedBundy1989 how do you know he was collecting welfare? 65% of all welfare is received by whites and the actual welfare queen was a white woman. Somehow your racist white hatred thinks it's a black thing despite the actual facts.

I have one question, how did he feel about the Dreamers legal status before this happened to him?

@haroutunsarkisyan8050

29 күн бұрын

Idk , go ask him

This shows the importance of maintaining records. He has ID's dating back decades. I hope this gets resolved in his favour.

Wow. Speechless.

He was a legal citizen while he worked and paid taxes. Now that he is at retirement age, suddenly he's not legal!? What a joke. Give him ALL his social security that he paid then.

@thefrenchbastard1646

Ай бұрын

well obviously he wasn't or this wouldn't have been an issue^^ ilégal imigrants don't get to complain where there taxes go

@jaycol21

Ай бұрын

No he wasn’t. He was an “illegal immigrant”. They work, pay taxes, and *don’t* get social security. Isn’t the normal line that he should blame his parents for not doing it the right way?

@sallyj632

Ай бұрын

@jaycol21 Here's the problem. Our government labeled him as LEGAL while he attended school, drove a car, went to work, paid taxes, flew airplanes.... He paid into Social Security because they said he was legal while he was paying into it. Now they owe him a REFUND!!! They want to say all these years later "whoops! Turns out you're not legal after all" .... okay, cool. Then give the man a REFUND on his social security!

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

One day the ROW will have to do something about this joke of a country

@thawingkarma233

Ай бұрын

@@jaycol21His parents made a ‘mistake’? His father was born in U.S soil and they moved back to the U.S when the once a little boy was only 2 years old. He lived most of his life in the U.S, and on top of that, the government *labeled* him a U.S citizen….that is until he asked for his retirement funds. Then the government conveniently decided to trace back his steps and came to the conclusion that they can’t determine whether or not his father lived in the U.S for 10 years before having the baby abroad??? He was given a social security card, voter’s registration card, was approved to serve in the Marines and worked for the state police, yet according to you it’s his and his family’s fault? What a joke. But ‘sure’, it’s totally the parents’ fault. The government has *nOtHiNg* to do with it. At all.

Same thing happened to a woman here in Canada. She is 30 something years old and they just told her that when her mom gave birth to her she wasn’t a Canadian citizen yet and she gave birth in Jamaica. I just don’t understand how can let someone live in your country, works there, they pay their taxes and everything just to turn around and tell them they aren’t citizens? Crazy.

@yucol5661

Ай бұрын

It’s not as if they check. You don’t get someone to check your driving skills every year to check if you really deserve your drivers license. No one goes around checking if everyone’s stack of varied legal papers are what they expect. It’s too much work.

@ifyjoanna

Ай бұрын

@@yucol5661 but wouldn't a non citizen be on some type of temporary work visa. With a social security card that says not eligible for work. Those visas expire.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

It’s evil what nations do to people once they scam them.

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

you not knowing how things work is what's crazy.

I feel like there are so many cases that shouldn't be lost in the millions of applications. This guy and many people like him

Something Kafkaesque about this story. He lived in US, paid taxes, voted, had a gun but when pension was due, government discovered he wasn´t a citizen?!

Anything beginning with “Florida man”, is going to be a screwed up situation. 😂 the cradle of lunacy.

@hello855

Ай бұрын

The circumstance is slightly different. He was the lunatic one. The government is.

@uberbyte7467

3 күн бұрын

​@@hello855he has a Canadian passport, looks like he is a delusional idiot who should be sent back 😂, the government should keep the money too

Now let's talk about the 580k law abiding DACA recipients who pay taxes, serve the military and will never receive these benifits either or atleast a path to permanent legal status.

@GoonyMclinux

Ай бұрын

If you are in the military and not a citizen its quite easy to do the paperwork and become one, the chain of command even goes to bat for you and helps you out. I helped many do the paperwork while I was in.

@ihswap

Ай бұрын

@@GoonyMclinux Hopefully this man can take advantage of this benifit and enjoy his retirement. I hear it can be a long process and every year is counts when you're in your retirement age. Hopefully the voting stuff doesn't mess up his process either.

@mike4402

Ай бұрын

Law abiding law breakers?

@ihswap

Ай бұрын

@@mike4402 Like the guy in the video? Yeah, I guess so lol

@RushOrbit

Ай бұрын

@@mike4402 You don't get DACA status if you have a criminal background, you waste of space.

To all the people that say give him a refund, i dont have social and still pay taxes every year, just like millions of people in my same situation, citizens are not the only ones who pay, us non legal pay without getting the benefits that people think we get

USCIS website states that if a person reasonably had grounds to believe they are citizens such as when you are a child and spent all your life in this country, then they may be forgiven if they claimed to be citizens to officials at some point. I read this on the website, ill post a link.

He has a Canadian passport.,. Should have been his first clue

@zion9860

Ай бұрын

Back in the '50s and the '60s it was very easy for Canadians to come to the US without showing any proof of citizenship. Social security cards can be easily fraudulently manufactured and hand it out like candy. Social security administration has no record of his number ever being in their system nor does the US immigration have any information of his status. But what is true at the moment is he is an illegal living in the United States, voted unknowingly or knowingly in American elections. That is a federal offense, voter fraud.

@queentinadoire6931

Ай бұрын

Exactly. I'm guessing that he never tried to get an American Passport.

@zion9860

Ай бұрын

@@queentinadoire6931 only US citizen is able to get an American passport. Obviously this guy is not a US citizen.

@xfhnhhgjbvcfg

Ай бұрын

@@queentinadoire6931 why would you if you're not an American citizen. Lol

@ameliarose47

Ай бұрын

​@@xfhnhhgjbvcfgbecause he supposedly thought he was

😂 they messed up. He is a Citizen by birth. His father was born in the USA. He needs his father’s birth certificate and that should suffice. Even if he were born in China he is still a US citizen because of his father being a US citizen. Doesn’t matter were you were born only that your parents or one of them were born in the USA

As a legal immigrant, you constantly question everything regarding your status, until you go through the process of getting citizenship you are on shaky ground. I also came here at age 3 , now 65 years old.

@mariusfacktor3597

20 күн бұрын

It's shameful how our country treats immigrants. All of us were immigrants at one point (except for natives). We should give immigrants a streamlined and fair process and not make them feel unstable.

Wait a minute. If you weren't born here and are asked about your nationality, at some point you realize "Oh shiet, what's the document that states I'm a citizen?" Anyone who has a passport from another country is probably highly aware of the implications of what nationality means. Hasn't been Florida cracking down on immigrants for a while already? He never bothered to apply for the REAL ID? This this BS, he knew it, but got used to get a free pass because of what's obvious. Let's be real 🤨

I see a social security card... bro is 100% American. Someone with balls needs to step up and do the right thing.

@skillcoiler

Ай бұрын

Lots of illegals, like him, have social security cards.

@sakethreddy4450

Ай бұрын

You dont need to be a citizen or American to get a social security card

@factsmatter1172

Ай бұрын

​@@sakethreddy4450 Maybe with the current illegitimate office but back then you had to be American. Edit: When I say American I am saying a citizen of America. Didn't think I had to explain that.

@ensabahnur3104

Ай бұрын

​@@factsmatter1172 No you did not. And this has been around for Several administrations. You need to do some research with the SSA and DHS, because what you are saying is not correct

@factsmatter1172

Ай бұрын

@@ensabahnur3104 Okay so maybe obbummer implemented it but it has always been that you need to be American/citizen to get an ss card. I worked for the free phone service back in 2014/2015 and the only docs accepted was id, birth certificate and ss card. non citizens had to show their resident card and work permit.

How sad 😔... I hope he gets his money and this Straightened out.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

Crossing the border is way to fix what he done

This is disgusting. Different situation, but my father has fallen to something that happened years ago. He was in college in the 60s and paid his student loans. Last year, we started getting letters from some Federal loan company saying he owes student loans and is incurring interest. It's not from over the years, but starting in 2023. We called them and one of the questions they asked was "What email did you use? Do you have the documents showing you paid it?" WHAT EMAIL FROM 1965! The government and these companies are losing their paperwork and changing the rules to come after anyone!

Imagine what's going to happen 50 years from now with the mess of a system that's in place right now

SSN is not citizenship or green card. It’s just a number to collect you money.

@DownBadDad-iz9mp

Ай бұрын

So... a scam.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

The entire us is a scam.

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

@@DownBadDad-iz9mp do you know what "scam" means? none of you that are saying this do.

At this point let him be a citizen already.

@jaynemo674

Ай бұрын

Nope. Deport his ass

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

He should apply just like everyone else, right?

@TrU_homie

Ай бұрын

He needs to apply legally and wait 13 plus years like everyone else

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

back of the line.

@fcplop98

24 күн бұрын

he should get expedited citizenship because hes white & Canadian? There are people with identical cases that pay their taxes, and serve their country but theyre non white and they still have to go to the decades long process of getting a citizenship. He could get in the back of the line.

They will always take your money out of your check 😢😢

He needed a certificate of citizenship,because his father didn’t live in the US 10 years before he was born, he wasn’t born in the US and maybe his parents wasn’t married to give him that automatic citizenship. I’m facing the same problem and waiting for uscis to reply me.

US Immigration, "Rules? We don't know the rules. We are just making this up as we go."

@Qresmaidapa

Ай бұрын

Too many stupid rules. Must be abolished.

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

They set up the rules, it’s up to the individual to follow them.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

The rules are never followed so why bother learning them. Just move to a country that doesn’t have them…

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

@@Qresmaidapa it would save tons of money on a stupid wall. He's no different than a migrant worker that's not a permanent resident.

@Qresmaidapa

Ай бұрын

@@gibbsm Migrant worker is more productive than zombie citizen.

He even voted?? Wow

@xwarped83

Ай бұрын

Illegally.

@yvonnecortes_

Ай бұрын

Needs to go to jail.

@openhousemiami

Ай бұрын

A crime certainly. Knowingly applied for a voter registration. A fraud.

@IssaMeZane

17 күн бұрын

@@yvonnecortes_ Why? this isnt on purpose lmfao

@503leafy

15 күн бұрын

@@IssaMeZane illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you don't know your committing a crime.

It's his father's fault, he should have had registered his son at the US embassy in Canada proving he had lived in the USA at least for 10 years previous to his son birth! The embassy would had given him a CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD! I know that because I just had 2 daughter, one in Honduras and one in Brazil, I showed up to the embassy with my school records, my tax returns, sss and my ENTRY and exit records from border patrol!

@kingj6891

26 күн бұрын

It not his fault if he never knew and it only really started to affect him when he turned 60

@jairocarcamo969

26 күн бұрын

@@kingj6891 I never said it was his fault, I said it was his FATHER'S fault!

@user-fw8xi5tr2f

26 күн бұрын

u better go back where you u belong

@killgoretrout877

24 күн бұрын

no see that would shift blame to the entitled foreigners highlighting this is a problem for decades of them lying to their kids for about their legal status and not the US being mean for no reason

@Vastatio

24 күн бұрын

@@kingj6891doesn’t matter if it’s his fault or not, illegal is illegal; he should be deported asap.

How could he not have known? He has a Canadian passport only. In 64 yrs he never traveled out of the US? If he had traveled at least once they would have caught it upon his reentry. Canadian passport, US address and no green card.

@kellypatterson4412

Ай бұрын

Passport wasn't required to cross the border to Canada or Mexico until recently.

@tajeshkalia1293

Ай бұрын

You know you trying to make excuses that your own police and voting couldn't do their job if he enlisted for that LOL compared to Canada entry.

@hello855

Ай бұрын

By your assumption, he would have never been able to return to the US. The border officer would see the issue instantly. Canadians citizens still need to justify their reason for travelling to the US and length of stay.

@jmaxim917

Ай бұрын

@@hello855However, the issue would have been realized then and possibly resolved quickly instead of now in his twilight years.

@BlackNapoleon

26 күн бұрын

@@jmaxim917would of only been a problem the last 20 years. He was probably driving back n forth between the Us and Canada before 9/11 without a passport And just a ID/license.

That is crazy and absolutely not cool. You served our country and he protected his fellow citizens. He paid the insurance and he should get back. I hope it gets resolved in his favor

@fluxcapacitor1621

Ай бұрын

DEPORT!

@youngdee6421

Ай бұрын

According to news, he never actually served, he was just approved. Everybody who works in the US pays for social security… citizen or not so he’s not entitled to anything.

When I was 23 I lost my social security and needed to get new one. Went I went to get my new one. My new social card said, something to the effect I was not a citizen. I look that woman straight in the eye and said, you got my damn birth certificate and my military records I brought last time I was here. Now fix it. Social Security will make many mistakes. I had to wait another two weeks but the problem was fix. I would also advise that people keep important records with the city or county records. They will certify them and if you house burns or is destroyed you will have your records on file. Many people are against this but I did it anyways and it's come in handy.

Shouldn’t he be deported?

His dad is an American so he is American , problem solved!!!

@erikschmidt476

Ай бұрын

They literally say that that's not how it works.

@eustab.anas-mann9510

Ай бұрын

In the Americas your nationality (mostly) depends on where you were born, which location (jus soli). In Europe your nationality depends on who your parents are (jus sanguinis).

@Raja1938

Ай бұрын

So was Obama's mother. Didn't stop half the country from insisting he was born in Kenya and thus wasn't American.

@jamescook1688

Ай бұрын

Unlike another famous person's father was born in Kenya 😮

@johncasor9698

Ай бұрын

CORRECT... and born in New York...

But the government still took out ss taxes. Incredible.

@lilywong3538

Ай бұрын

Payroll taxes apply to everyone who has an income here. Even Shohei Ohtani and Messi pay it too.

@JoesKnocking

Ай бұрын

Yes, if you work in America, you pay SS taxes. Even temporary workers pay SS taxes, that does not make them entitled to SS.

@corpingtons

Ай бұрын

Crazy

@ensabahnur3104

Ай бұрын

They do that to everyone, including illegal immigrants who will never get that money back

@yucol5661

Ай бұрын

Did you think immigrants don’t pay taxes? Even students pay taxes. Even people with absolutely no papers with jobs have to pay taxes or risk getting slapped with them when they fix their immigration status. Such a big assumption to think that’s how taxes work. Plus, everyone pays sales taxes.

Wow, my dad has the same story, he’s a Canadian but just got American citizenship 3 years ago and been in the USA for 20 years. My great grandfather on my grandmother side was American. So my grandma has citizenship in the USA and my dad just got his and I’m Canadian. Confusing?

Give that man his social security! This is nonsense.

Isn't the governor going to deport him

@robynwolph3836

Ай бұрын

You're heartless. Let him stay as he has nowhere to go

@b1k3rbryc3

Ай бұрын

​@@benbrown9053he paid his taxes... There are illegals here who do nothing

@randyg4571

Ай бұрын

@@benbrown9053 He came here with his parents when he was age two. i am sure at that time it was not as stringent as it is now. especially for people crossing over from Canada.

@benbrown9053

Ай бұрын

@randyg4571 I'm sure a lot of Mexicans can say the same thing. A lot of them being born he as well only to be deported.

@orbiii.niverse1392

Ай бұрын

@@benbrown9053of all the people I would support to deport- this man is NOT one of them. He paid decades of taxes and has only known his life as an American. So therefore he’s completely entitled to being here as he pleases.

How do you pay into social security but can’t collect it. Give that man his money

@Nita90026

Ай бұрын

Millions of people who fall under certain immigration categories are allowed to stay in the country, work, drive, pay a taxes and social security, however, they cannot collect social security benefits. Millions of undocumented immigrants also pay into the system and will never collect a penny they have paid to Social Security.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

When you’re a sucker immigrant in the nation of bullies.

That’s unreal! America should be ashamed on itself to do this to this man.

This happed to a guy I worked with his was only cause he was born in Germany in a German hospital but his dad was stationed in the military there and was American and his grandparents got him and his mom into the USA and had the same shit worked for years and had a social security card .When he applied they said he wasn’t a citizen and he had to write the senator or governor of New York at the time they ended up giving it to him .

But the government never makes mistakes.

@nelsonfranco7849

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.🤔🤔🤔🤔.

@xwrtk

Ай бұрын

There are more “illegals” just like who have been here for almost a along as him. However, he’s only illegal due to paperwork issues.

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

so you're for amnesty for undocumented immigrants then? He falls under the "Dreamer" category of immigrant.

@strangeroamer3219

26 күн бұрын

Of course they don't make mistakes. This is being done on purpose.

His father make a huge mistake and he is paying for that,this is really unfair,he have a legal S.S. number so give to him his money

@neilkurzman4907

Ай бұрын

It’s unfair? It’s also against the law. So you want some bureaucrats somewhere to violate the law to help this guy out they should get fired and prosecuted because this guy’s father screwed up.

@Deborahwillnawskoikoi

Ай бұрын

You are right, but They need to give him his Money.

@Runescapian0wner

Ай бұрын

@@Deborahwillnawskoikoi Non citizens still pay social security taxes each paycheck. To give him his money back, they will also have to give back all the money of other non-citizens who paid taxes. They also give social security numbers to non citizens. He is basically an immigrant who thought he was a citizen unfortunately.

@Deborahwillnawskoikoi

Ай бұрын

@@Runescapian0wner I know he works for his Money They need to give him all his money.

@QUINTUSMAXIMUS

Ай бұрын

He just needs to get his father's birth certificate and school records. That's more than enough. If he can figure which county his dad went to school in New York along with his dad's birth certificate then it should be enough. His Canadian birth certificate should show his father's name. It just takes time. His father made a big mistake.

Umm if you lived and worked here for 60 years you are a citizen. edit: I do not care about stupid laws and all the other idiocy people have to go through but should not.

You know what’s crazy some random person typed out the document telling him he’s not getting ss and sent it off and left home to have dinner and eat popcorn during a movie with no second thought

@gibbsm

Ай бұрын

I would do the same. Follow the rules, not my problem.

This also happened to my father who is Ukrainian came here when he was four years old owned businesses fought in the war served this country paid all of his taxes everything and then when it came down to getting his Social Security, he said he was not a citizen

I've said it a million times, everyone wins but the American tax payer. How much money is spent on foreign aid while taxpayers struggle to pay their bills.

@ironhell813

Ай бұрын

Nobody wins concerning the us, it’s a terrorist state.

@mrsleep0000

Ай бұрын

Billions for war and illegal aliens, nothing for you!

@angelainamarie9656

Ай бұрын

Hey he's not an American citizen he didn't do the process didn't go through the right paperwork he needs to do it right. I just don't feel one bit sorry for him.

@JK-gb9hg

Ай бұрын

​@@angelainamarie9656 Ohh so when he was paying taxes it was okay but when the time came for the govt to pay him back then its a problem?

@jarg8

Ай бұрын

​​@@angelainamarie9656so the government treated him like a US citizen in every way his entire life including by taking his money regularly for over half a century. Why would he have any reason to believe he WASNT a US citizen? Have some common sense, here.

Im confused, his father was a US citizen, but he isnt one? How does that work?

Did he never get a passport?

They used to be so Lucy Goosy about issuing social security cards & DL. My mom decided to change her name one day & they just puylt it on her SS card & DL for her! Later when it came time to get Social Security security, it became a problem. I had to take her to court to get her name legally changed to match her documents. I'm sure they'll get it straightened out for this guy eventually but what a pain!

@dickiewongtk

Ай бұрын

Does the US not have a centralized registry for the personal information of all kind of residents and/or citizen?

@PC-tan

Ай бұрын

​@@dickiewongtkno which is the problem. The whole thing with a SS number is that it originally serves one purpose and that's what the man in the video is fighting for. (I have to double check on stuff, but you will get the idea) Because of the Great depression and because of how the US wanted to avoid something like that happening again in the future they decided to collect money from people and then just give it to them later. Which is why at the beginning SSN were not that specific and were even in numerical order. There was a point in time that you could figure out what state someone was born in based of their SSN. There is a whole complicated history with it. Now comes the part that you are asking for. And that's that no there is no central way to find out who everyone is in the US. Thats why your SSN has become such an important thing to find out who you are. Even though that's not the point of the SSN, this has to do with who in the US you don't have a national ID, but rather you have a state ID and how do you get a state ID? You get it with a SSN, I believe that there is other stuff so not every state requires a SSN I think? Part of this is because supposedly the US thinks it's a bad idea to be able to track people individually or something of the sort. It's just a real nightmare That likely didn't answer your question at all but you can look up videos about the history of SSN and some of the stuff I just said will be mentioned in those videos.

@cosplayshop

Ай бұрын

I can do you one better. My dad was home birth in the US in the 1930. Back then you don't even need to register it and he had no birth certificate from the state, only with the detail (like photo and the name and the registration of the midwive etc), so when it come time to register his birth, they can't remember the day he was born, only the month and a year, and he was given a birth certificate (IIRC in the 60s) with only a month and a year and it also appear in his passport without the day. And then in early 00s after 9/11, the government send him a letter asking him to declare his birthday and they change his birthday by deed poll and they just randomly gave him March 31 as his birthday...

@jmodified

Ай бұрын

In most states, you can just start using another name any time you want, and that becomes your name. Having a legal name change document makes things a lot easier though. Otherwise you'll have to prove you're that person over and over, and convince people over and over that changing your name through use is a thing. I used a shortened version of my first name for college, but legally changed it to that before graduating to avoid any problems.

@jmodified

Ай бұрын

@@dickiewongtk The suggestion of such a centralized registry will send various conspiracy types into fits.