FLAT OUT and getting away with it @ Silverstone GP. Clio RS 172 races Toyota Celica
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Footage from a cold, wet and super slippery trackday in January 2020 at Silverstone GP in the Clio 172 and StringTheoryGarage's Celica.
We were never quite sure how much fun we'd have on the big, flat, open tarmac of the Silverstone Grand Prix track in sub 200bhp cars, but it turns out that as long as you have a friend in a car that's the same pace then you can basically have one massive race. It was HUGE fun, especially with such little grip leading to some tasty sideways moments that we were surprised we got away with!
Car specs:
Celica T-Sport VVTL-I 190
Exhaust - Remus and decat
Engine - Se7en Motorsport cams, K&N filter
Suspension - BC Coilovers, geo setup with some toe out at rear
Brakes - Project Mu pads, Avensis master cylinder, uprated fluid
Tyres - AD08R 225/40/18
Exterior - Professionally fitted motorsport splitter (definitely not some wood screwed to the bumper)
Clio RS 172
Intake - Ramair induction kit
Exhaust - decat, custom stainless catback
Front suspension - BC DS coilovers with 3.5 degrees negative camber (adjustable top mounts, camber bolts)
Rear suspension - BC DS 'coilovers', rear axle shim plates (slight rear toe-out)
Front Brakes - Ferodo DS3000 pads, Brembo HC plain disks, braided brake lines
Rear Brakes - Pagid pro race pads, Brembo HC plain disks, braided brake lines
Front Tyres - Dunlop Direzza dz03g 195/50/15
Rear Tyres - Continental PremiumContact 195/50/15
Interior - rear cage, perspex front windows, fully stripped
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Пікірлер: 274
Bloody love a 2zz such a underrated engine
@EngineeringAndRestoration
4 жыл бұрын
Not underrated in the Mk1/3 MR2 community!
@johnnyhale2041
4 жыл бұрын
@@EngineeringAndRestoration it's an underrated engine over all, brilliant engine
@SI0AX
4 жыл бұрын
It's the Lotus engine. I'm curious about what mods it has because the Celica is a car you don't commonly see on the track. Edit: He put the mods in the description. Basic stuff except for the cam upgrade ,I'm curious about the ECU tuning done to the car. Pretty cool that he swapped in the master Cylinder from a Toyota Avensis.
@johnnyhale2041
4 жыл бұрын
@@SI0AX I don't think it's mapped, doesn't rev any higher lifts coming in at the same point
@theCinator
4 жыл бұрын
Up there with the k20 imo. Great engine with a lot of pull for less than 200hp.
if you want a diff in that celica. all mk3 MR2s came standard with a torsen diff which drops straight into the 6 speed celica gearbox 👍
@stringtheorygarage2815
4 жыл бұрын
misterLukeG got a spare gearbox ready for when I spot a super bargain lsd to drop in it 👌
@danbrown3026
4 жыл бұрын
I thought that was only an optional extra ?
@misterLukeG
4 жыл бұрын
@@danbrown3026 Nope. Torsen diff is standard on all UK spec MK3 MR2s
@TomoHawKzZ
4 жыл бұрын
This makes me want a mk3 mr2...
This is the same Celica that everyone has been talking shit about? It looks pretty stout on the track.
@vendelrichter7247
3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these and I can tell you it"s a highly underrater car. A really nice weekend ride and also a pretty fun playing machine.
@SparrowNoblePoland
2 жыл бұрын
@@vendelrichter7247 Too bad it's FWD, so half of the car is just useless weight.
@janelzinga1964
2 жыл бұрын
@@SparrowNoblePoland its only 1100 kgs though not too bad
This duo is actually gold
Great fun guys. Still missing the 306 tho. 😊
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Don't worry, the 306 will be back later in the year!
@cirian75
4 жыл бұрын
how does the Celia compare to the 306?
@breakingbaz7709
4 жыл бұрын
Marko Novak one of the 1st videos I saw
And all of a sudden... I'm in love with my Celica again 😁
@charliecouzins7652
4 жыл бұрын
Same! I'm thinking of going for a more powerful car but bun that, the celica is perfect for daily life and occasional fun at a track!
@djorksolo8544
4 жыл бұрын
@@charliecouzins7652 Same here also ! I got one as daily for 4 years, it was just very good car ! We all go one day for more powerful !
@TIM612826
4 жыл бұрын
Me....❤ clio...forever 😀😀😀
Samir, you're breaking the car! Listen to me!
Haha you two are hilarious. I just love how you lift off oversteer everywhere and laugh at each other, was cracking me up. 😂😂 When’s your next track day? I wanna join!!
Love all the shenanigans you C&C boys get up to! Hope to see you guys on track one day 👍
You guys are mental, love it! Keep having fun and keep posting the videos. 😌
Thanks for rhe video's. Its fun to people who understand what a French chassis is
@jimmyking1205
4 жыл бұрын
Iv got a rs220 clio and all I get is "HoWs ThE ElEcTrIcS" get the bin you knob 🚮
@GapeGang
4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyking1205 HoWs ThE ElEcTrIcS?
@yair4876
4 жыл бұрын
Wil you need the 172
@jimmyking1205
4 жыл бұрын
@@GapeGang same applies to you mate. Get in the bin you knob
@hoen2009
4 жыл бұрын
Most of the time i am not the biggest fan of french cars, but they do make amazing hot hatchbacks.
Hi Guys. First time watching your channel. It really made me laugh and smile seeing two mates have so much fun. Some well caught over steers. Well done, keep it up.
Amazing the amount of fun you guys have. You could literally convince anyone to get into track days
Watching this again during the lock down. It's 's just what you need seeing the amount of fun and skills you guys have. As a former 306 owner I miss the 306 content. Mine had bilstein yellow b8's with uprated sxara torsion bars and it could give the clios a run for their money. The lift off oversteer was always on tap. Always look forward to see your vids come up on KZread, you guys are hilarious behind the wheel. 👍😁
Top video, looked like a right laugh 😂
One of the best youtubers here. LOVE LOVE watching this sort of stuff. These boys are just having a laugh and lots of fun
You have no idea how often i check your channel for new vids, keep them coming lads!! The more insane and mental, the better! :D
Mate you boys are having a blast! !!!!!!! Such a great video i am not a fan of front wheel drive, until now! !!!! Great work
0:38 *POP* *Laughs* Me lol
Two absolute mad men. I love it 🤙🏻
Great demonstration of having fun on a track day without huge funds.....great combo of cars, laughed along with you 👍🏼
Superb driving like always you two 👏
I had a Clio 182 for a short time - this sounds the same - sounds so rough at high revs and always felt like it was about to blow up at anytime, even if they're reliable. I know the Toyota is revving higher, but sounds a lot better.
@a.villar6291
4 жыл бұрын
Wich sounds better, the Clio or the Toyota? You have been ambiguous in the end.
@gnarlykoala
4 жыл бұрын
Read, the toyota.
@Jagermaestro7
4 жыл бұрын
I think the clio has a pure yet aggressive sound, I like it a lot whereas the toyota is more sophisticated but lacks that "rumble". But I see where you are coming from.
@SCL2EAM_X
4 жыл бұрын
French build quality makes me wanna puke
@cw205mi16
4 жыл бұрын
@@SCL2EAM_X I quite like the 182 I had, nice spec for a small hatch and refined enough for daily driving. It just never felt right to thrash it though, where my 205GTI with an Mi16 engine just felt the opposite.
looks like you guys had a tonne of fun, im happy for you, keep it up =)
Now that’s what I call a proper fun day out. Awesome driving lad.
I know these are budget track cars but if that celica had a quaife it would be sooooo much quicker. Either way I spent the entire video with a smile on my face. Keep it up👍
@djorksolo8544
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! With a good LSD it would be even more nice. The JDM version of this celica was sold with a LSD on the super strut model. Such a pity we didnt get this model in Europe !
@p1fly
3 жыл бұрын
Stick an lsd from any mk3 mr2 into celica box, it's a straight fit and all UK spec mk3 mr2 come with a limited slip diff
Great video, as usual
Wow that looked like so much fun. you guys had me laughing the whole time. Super big respect to the clio for battling it out with the Celica. that Celica revs soooo nice!!!! And the slides were awesome!!!!!
absolutely legends just having fun on the track
Your boy LeBerk can also drive I see! Fantastic stuff, as usual guys! Your laughs are everything that's alright about cars LOL
That looked like great fun!
Love the Celica, looks and sound fantastic.
Yes lads, love it. Balls of steel
Great driving!!
THAT is what trackdays are about. Flat out on the limit fun with your mates!!!
Another blinder. Love the enthusiasm.
Very good video ! More efficient handling in the clio 2 RS. Thank you !
such a well edited video!
Awesome video guys well deserves a 👍🏻
Bucking Frilliant mate. Entertained.
This video made me chuckle 😅 2 friends having a laugh on a track, how track days should be!
Brilliant video! I just bought yet another Toyota with a 2ZZ, this time a T-Sport in the same colour as the one in the video... I am tempted to do a little more with it, coilovers and sticky rubber would be a start, but it actually corners pretty great on a set of Eibach springs. Really underrated cars.
@doomer8949
2 жыл бұрын
Let them be under rated, i don't want another overpriced japanese car
Beautiful driving...... subscribed!
Awesome every time guys lolol never anything less than maximum attack 👊
That’s the best 8:22 seconds and the funniest thing I’ve seen all day 🤣
Hahahahaha what a sick channel. Nothing but laughs, love it.
And this is what it's all about. Have fun with what you got!
driving on those legendary tracks is so cool
That looked like so much fun
2:58, perfect opportunity for "when will I see you again" 😏😂
Great vid such a hoot
Still have my clio 172 stored away. Best fun i had with a car great memories.
dayumn that intro!
Super Hi from France!
Great racing guys! Looked like great fun. The celica looked like loads of fun too. When you think of fwd people normally think of civic type R or clio. You've just put the price of celicas up after seeing this. 😄
Haven't seen Beavis & Butthead in a long tome... Thanks for sharing!
Looks like a lot of fun.. 👍
172: Let's put some street tyres on the back for more fun😂
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, in these conditions the street tyres on the rear were more grippy than the semi slicks which we couldn't get any heat in to.
@ripptorr
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamberandCombustion makes sense of course but the 1st thought was "fun fun fun" 😁
@brunomanco7529
4 жыл бұрын
U could allways increase rear tire pressure
fuck I love this channel, such hilarious editing and you guys are so chilled and always having fun. Proving that driver skill comes before power too.
A battle with a Integra DC2....When??. Best regards from Spain.
So good!
Love this circuit
That was so much fun! Would love to see you guys drive my Trophy R.
Loved it
Ah this is great. I sold my celica a few months back after 10 years of ownership. Great cars 😎. I bought a civic type r to replace it. It’s good but think I still prefer the celica
Low key diggin that white steering wheel 🤫
I absolutely this channel. It motivates me so much HAHA! Especially when practicing heel & toe, which I can now get right 80% of the time hehehehe - I drive a manual Peugeot RCZ by the way, and I’ve been doing manual no driving instructor for 7 months now :)
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear Will! We try and show the pedalcam as well, unfortunately this time the SD card of that camera corrupted. It will be back!
Been some serious winter upgrades here
yaks! shyts! love it too!!
Where did you get that wheel for your Celica? I need that
Great vid as usual lads 👌.... What have u done to the celica? Use to have one, fun car
U guys are like my inspiration to get a track car and get on track
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Do it! You will not regret it! Although your bank balance might...
2zz owner for many years before... and many years to come :D what a fun thing #Lift
Is the rear set toe out ? It's seems very tail happy for a ff car
Fair play to the Celica keeping up!! Probably quite an underrated car
@chevroletcamaro3885
4 жыл бұрын
They are awesome, but get the facelifted model (after 2003) which doesnt burn oil.
@sammysev16
4 жыл бұрын
Chevrolet Camaro not my kind of think personally! I’ve got a Clio 200 cup, but I’ll remember that for if anyone I know mentions that they’re looking for one👍🏾👍🏾
@cds401
4 жыл бұрын
@@chevroletcamaro3885 Those still burn oil, I know a guy with a GT model and when accelerating it was black smoking hard (probably because it was never well mantained). He had to fill the oil once every 2 weeks, until the engine blew up
More of this duel please
Almost sounds like VTEC: 1:44
@Mabro29
4 жыл бұрын
@@CelicaAutocrosser 1:44 clio
@CelicaAutocrosser
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mabro29 Didn't realize it was the other car. :) Sadly I was waiting to hear that from the Celica instead. I think it may be the Celica in front of him though. It has that same tone when they cut into the Celica. Sounds like they started the Celica sound before they cut to the video of the Celica driver.
@mikio8120
4 жыл бұрын
it is the toyota fully accelerating while going half throttle due to overtaking before :) btw the vvtli system of toyota is basically the same as the vtec afaik, greets
@CelicaAutocrosser
4 жыл бұрын
mikio that’s what I thought. It sounds like mine and I know that tone anywhere. It’s just the way they edited it. Toyota starts the lift later than Honda. So it starts at 6200 thru 8250 which is the redline, depending on the year as well.
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 absolutely awesome haha !!!!
Oh by the way, do you have a baffled sump on the Celica? Or a modified 1ZZ one at least? I've heard stories of oil starvation under extreme cornering on track.
Quality 👍
I Love You Guys 😎😎😎💪💪👍👍
Thanks for the vid, always a pleasure to watch :D Cheers from france. PS : where do you put your mic in the cars ?
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Mic is just the inbuilt GoPro one!
@MrOse317
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamberandCombustion Thanks !
So how much power are these two cars producing with these parts and all? Seems like a perfectly fun setup.. 😍
The celica is really that planted on the rear? I'm looking for one because here they are way cheaper than Civic type r ep3 or Clio rs3 They are so underrated but the 2zz is so good
@lastexile1187
4 жыл бұрын
Longer wheelbase = more stability at speed ;)
@richardbruce1296
4 жыл бұрын
Very good cars bud Bomb proff aswell
@stringtheorygarage2815
4 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo Clara yup very stable, this is with some toe out to help rotation too. It needs stiffer springs really, but this is my super low budget courtesy car/race Alex and Matt car so that can wait for another day! Rear suspension is nigh on identical to EP3, very similar car just a little less powerful but a little lighter too.
@Be4tJumper
4 жыл бұрын
i was strongly considering buying a 2zz, on paper 190 vs 200hp for a k20 doesn't seem too bad but in reality they're different leagues. iirc celica has about 160 wheel horsepower and an ep3 with common mods has 210 wheel horsepower and more torque. The 2zz isn't that tuneable but it still sounds awesome and i'm jealous of the guy getting the celica for £750
@LorenzoClara97
4 жыл бұрын
@@Be4tJumper 2zz is also lighter than Honda k20, Better for let's say mr2 mk3 swap
What sort of improvements/differences did the Avensis master cylinder do? Firms up the pedal a little & reduces the pedal travel required?
@CamberandCombustion
3 жыл бұрын
Yeh exactly that. With the standard one Ben was experiencing the pedal going very long on track!
Which project Mu pads are on the Celica? How are they compared to the DS3000?
@stringtheorygarage2815
4 жыл бұрын
Matt Dyson They’re the 999s, literally leagues ahead of DS3000, they’re a proper race pad and even with the celicas CD sized brakes didn’t show a hint of fade all day even with pushing into abs half the time. Next time out the Clio will have DS1.11 so that will be an interesting comparison!
Love the videos guys. What seat have you got in the clio and how is the camera mounted? Maybe bump into you this year
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Bimarco Cobra2 seats which, considering they're at the budget end, are pretty good. The camera in this video was mounted to the right hand shoulder of the passenger seat using a clamp mount but without the weight of anyone in the seat it vibrated a little, hence the annoying camera shake in the vid.
@Itsallfun3000
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamberandCombustion thanks, I assume the passenger isnt a recaro in that case. My 200 has the recaros currently, bucket has to happen but still have the camera issue. The vibration isnt as bad in your vid as I'd read about online. Keep em coming
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
@@Itsallfun3000 Passenger seat is a Bimarco too. In our old 197 with a standard non-Recaro passenger seat, we use small ratchet straps attached to the rear floor to pre-load the seat to stop it vibrating. Worked great.
@Itsallfun3000
4 жыл бұрын
Those cobra 2 seats look pretty wide and you guys dont appear to be the widest did you pad them out!? I'm trying to get up to a shop to try one on
1m55 fkn legend
You guys should buy a Toyota Corolla T-sport (kind of a mix of both of you guys’ cars... 2zz fwd hatchback)
No sería mejor para el Celica 205/50r16? 18 tunero y le tiene que pesar no?
How good are the Dunlop on Clio and also just missed you guys I was at silver stone on 7th
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
When you can get some heat in them they are great, but struggled a little in these cold and greasy conditions (about 5°C max)
Is the oil pan stock on the celica?
Very very very good drivers. I really wonder how well would they do in a real motorsport.
That Celica is really revvy 🔥🔥🔥
Silverstone marshals are lads
2zzge is great!!!
Hi guys can you give me the exact name of the pads pls that are you useing of procejt mu or a web site 10x :)
Scotty Kilmer is proud
Great driving, outpacing A lot of machines on track . What's the estimated weight of the cars ?
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Clio is 960kg with half a tank and no driver, the Celica is 1100kg in the same condition
@midlifecrisis9269
4 жыл бұрын
@@CamberandCombustion nice ! Look forward to the next vid 👍
@midlifecrisis9269
4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity has the Celica sump been modded? I'm in the process of doing more mods and track days with my t sport , regards 👍
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
@@midlifecrisis9269 It was standard in this vid but the bottom end went on the next track day... So a new engine has been fitted and that is getting a Moroso baffled sump
@midlifecrisis9269
4 жыл бұрын
Ah bad times 😔. The vids look as though your probably exeding 1 g easily. I've overfilled mine at the mo to avoid the high g starvation. Good luck with the engine swap . Look forward to the next vid 👍
You bought a T23 Celica? Nice one!
@CamberandCombustion
4 жыл бұрын
Our friend Ben from StringTheoryGarage saw us having too much fun in our FWD hatches and wanted to join in, so bought a cheap Celica that absolutely rips!