FlaSh Explains Why There is No Protoss Bonjwas

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from: vod dump on FlaSh's channel on 2017 ( • FlaSh.이영호 아프리카TV 전체보기!... )

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  • @IntoTheSkyy
    @IntoTheSkyy Жыл бұрын

    Really just "skill issue"d the entire protoss race. Artosis will be proud

  • @Athinira

    @Athinira

    Жыл бұрын

    He's somewhat right though. Statistically Protoss is getting their ass kicked by Zerg, but they do have an advantage against Terran - yet Terrans like Flash kicked their ass. Brood War is a game with an incredibly high skill ceiling, and it makes sense a very select few people rise above the rest. And it's not statistically unlikely that if, say, 5 players rise above everyone else by miles, then only 2 races could emerge. If you roll a dice 5 times, it's perfectly possible to get 5 rolls between 3-6 (1-2 representing protoss).

  • @Doomxeen

    @Doomxeen

    Жыл бұрын

    I can't stop fucking laughing about this.

  • @Anubis1993KZ
    @Anubis1993KZ Жыл бұрын

    When Flash said "skill issue" I genuinely expected "vine boom sound effect" with max reverb 😅

  • @troymcclure8012
    @troymcclure8012 Жыл бұрын

    'skill issue' lmao

  • @Anubis1993KZ
    @Anubis1993KZ Жыл бұрын

    The biggest proof to his words would be switching to Protoss and winning like 3 or 4 ASLs in a row. That would be the loudest "skill issue" ever said.

  • @spinvn

    @spinvn

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah he's not gonna be able to do that

  • @KaLNFoRc3R

    @KaLNFoRc3R

    Жыл бұрын

    He got 3rd place as random in ASL-10. I don't think most people realize how much preparation is required to practice for all possible matchups.

  • @kaydens6964

    @kaydens6964

    Жыл бұрын

    He already does random lol So if he says its a skill issue there is some truth in it, and there was Jangbi.

  • @Anubis1993KZ

    @Anubis1993KZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaydens6964 doing random and winning with it are 2 different things mate (lol)

  • @kaydens6964

    @kaydens6964

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anubis1993KZ Doing random meaning he's playing three races at pro level so he has a very good understanding of how they operate. Winning ASL is a hard thing to accomplish lol But he got 3rd place with a one race each sweep against rush that was hilarious. You also forgot if he switch to toss he doesn't have to compete with his own Terran.

  • @leandronicolas8848
    @leandronicolas8848 Жыл бұрын

    Artosis wrote that script lmao

  • @zombie92110
    @zombie92110 Жыл бұрын

    Jangbi had a shot at the end of the OSL era but Kespa had to switch to SC2 so we'll never know.

  • @-LocoBolon

    @-LocoBolon

    10 ай бұрын

    yes :(

  • @TheCorington

    @TheCorington

    2 ай бұрын

    by that time all players were playing both bw and sc2. jangbi was the only pro to continue focusing solely on bw.

  • @zombie92110

    @zombie92110

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheCorington Fantasy? He was already on his way up before.

  • @TheCorington

    @TheCorington

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zombie92110 in that era all pros were preparing for the sc2 switch including fantasy and therefore practiced both. It is widely known that jangbi only practice brood war, so some don’t really count those OSLs. Fantasy was really good though

  • @zombie92110

    @zombie92110

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheCorington and Jangbi was also one of the best old school kespa player in SC2 too. So that looks like excuses.

  • @whitneysmiltank
    @whitneysmiltank Жыл бұрын

    Flash is based af

  • @oDanBelo
    @oDanBelo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Artosis for the closed captions.

  • @ChriSX13
    @ChriSX13 Жыл бұрын

    lmao he really did just pull the skill issue card

  • @spinvn
    @spinvn Жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is as convincing as Soulkey complaining about not being able to queue up Larvae the other day

  • @jennyxie5382
    @jennyxie5382 Жыл бұрын

    Jaedong will be Bonjwa if not for Flash.

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    I know Savior was bonjwa after stopping Nada, and Bisu shut down Savior, but who prevented Bisu from getting Bonjwa??

  • @masoud6920

    @masoud6920

    Жыл бұрын

    That Bonjwa thing is a facade TBH... there's nothing about Jaedong shortcoming to be a Bonjwa but somehow still isn't considered one by many

  • @jennyxie5382

    @jennyxie5382

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crh18 I think you have to be the only one dominant to have that title.

  • @MeteCanKarahasan

    @MeteCanKarahasan

    5 ай бұрын

    @chr18 Flash, of course.

  • @dani45987
    @dani45987 Жыл бұрын

    Savior is the only Zerg Bonjwa, therefore he is the true #1 SC player of all time.

  • @abstractdaddy1384

    @abstractdaddy1384

    Жыл бұрын

    That makes no sense

  • @masoud6920

    @masoud6920

    Жыл бұрын

    Jaedong > Savior

  • @snaffu1

    @snaffu1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@masoud6920Genuinely would've loved to see savior try to beat JvZ in his prime, but sadly he fumbled his bonjwa bag into a bloody volcano after what he did. For that alone, JD is the better player, on top of his stellar attitude and professionalism.

  • @masoud6920

    @masoud6920

    Жыл бұрын

    @@snaffu1 He is also a greater player career wise. 5-time winners, 4-time finalists, 3-time quarterfinalists. It should also be stressed that Saviour did not make it through the preliminaries for the entirety of his Bonjwa career except for the last one, so his time as the undefeated dominator is in fact very short-lived

  • @Aiyoukim

    @Aiyoukim

    Жыл бұрын

    @@masoud6920 Just because you're a zoomer who never watched Savior doesn't make Jaedong better. Sure he was a top player and contested Flash for some titles but he never truly dominated the scene like Savior did.

  • @hellowill
    @hellowill Жыл бұрын

    We need Bisu hyungs reaction

  • @CanariasCanariass

    @CanariasCanariass

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha yep + Snow, Stork, and Best

  • @jinjinBW

    @jinjinBW

    Жыл бұрын

    In pipeline....

  • @Anubis1993KZ

    @Anubis1993KZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jinjinBW can't wait to see!

  • @YouJustAmazeMe
    @YouJustAmazeMe Жыл бұрын

    Protoss players don't want to be held accountable for their lack of skill though

  • @Doomxeen

    @Doomxeen

    Жыл бұрын

    Too busy managing their stock portfolios and lounging at the beach.

  • @JRTIntervencion
    @JRTIntervencion Жыл бұрын

    LMAO This dude really said "skill issue" lmao

  • @fukcingweeabos3167
    @fukcingweeabos3167 Жыл бұрын

    Firstborns on suicide watch

  • @hackerj23
    @hackerj23 Жыл бұрын

    Flash is just a paid Artosis plant.

  • @bennosmovingcastle4261
    @bennosmovingcastle4261 Жыл бұрын

    very interesting topic. i always wished for a protoss bonjwa. if brood war had something as strong as alfastar in sc2, i wonder which race would dominate.

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    they stopped giving the title out these days, even Flash doesn't get it, but we all recognise him as a gaming god anyway, he is in his own god tier league 😅 Rain would be the closest as his skill far surpasses any of the dragons, but he's not competing these days, but let's not count out Snow!!

  • @BLooDCoMPleX

    @BLooDCoMPleX

    10 ай бұрын

    I would assume, without APM limitations, Zerg would be the preferred race by a superadvanced AI. Simply because it gets so much more value out of supply and has the most powerful spellcasters in the game. The main limitation for Zerg players is that once Zerg gets really big it becomes really unwieldy, much more so compared to the other races. I really wish we had such a project in BW to see how far limits can be pushed.

  • @aszriel_
    @aszriel_ Жыл бұрын

    Salty protoss comments incoming pepeLaugh

  • @DRCcxl

    @DRCcxl

    Жыл бұрын

    Protoss players wont understand that FlaSh dissed them lol

  • @flammenengel2002
    @flammenengel2002 Жыл бұрын

    Are there any high quality Savior Replays anywhere? I'd like to see his games.

  • @dani45987

    @dani45987

    Жыл бұрын

    Vods exist i dont know about replays , but the nickname savior was removed from tournament records. Google "the god of battlefield teamliquid"

  • @ManCubuSSC
    @ManCubuSSC Жыл бұрын

    Please someone tell me FlaSh is coming back... He still didn't show up on Afreeca 😔

  • @MrTheQuestioner

    @MrTheQuestioner

    Жыл бұрын

    You’ll just have to hope the Korean fans forgive him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @covetousrat

    @covetousrat

    Жыл бұрын

    His crypto scandal

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope he doesn't return too soon, too many Terrans winning ASL in the past 2-3yrs, I would like to see a different race win

  • @denzelnolet

    @denzelnolet

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@crh18 snow vs flash could be some killer games

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    @@denzelnolet assuming Snow can make it out of RO8 first 🥲

  • @iOnlySignIn
    @iOnlySignIn Жыл бұрын

    He has the authority to say Protoss has "Skill Issue" because he wins playing Random/Protoss.

  • @noahbaker-kang5148

    @noahbaker-kang5148

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, look at all those skilled Terrans who switched to Protoss and won tournaments, oh wait…

  • @Anubis1993KZ

    @Anubis1993KZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noahbaker-kang5148 On other hand are there any protoss who switched to terran and won anything?

  • @noahbaker-kang5148

    @noahbaker-kang5148

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anubis1993KZ No, but I’m not making the arrogant claim that Terrans lack skill.

  • @jys365

    @jys365

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Anubis1993KZ There are many players who switched from toss to Terran. OG pro-gamer SSamJang is a good example. He used to be the poster boy of Starcraft before Boxer

  • @Anubis1993KZ

    @Anubis1993KZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jys365 I don't know anything about him but here's what I found on liquipedia "Early in his career SSamJang used to play all races in tournaments but eventually just stuck to Terran". So I'm not 100% sure if he truly was a Protoss player. Thanks for mentioning him anyways ^^

  • @-guts
    @-guts Жыл бұрын

    When is flash done in military? surely soon.

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    he's already done, but there's controversy with him returning due to a crypto scandal you can find the related video under jinjin, it was around a month ago?

  • @-guts

    @-guts

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crh18 alright tthank you

  • @GonzaLove
    @GonzaLove Жыл бұрын

    Hi❤

  • @Yenyeri
    @Yenyeri Жыл бұрын

    flash is back?

  • @crh18

    @crh18

    Жыл бұрын

    title says this is a VOD from 2017

  • @markmuller7962
    @markmuller7962 Жыл бұрын

    I think Terran rewards creativity and that's why many of the strongest (and more creative) players have mained Terran over the years

  • @abstractdaddy1384

    @abstractdaddy1384

    Жыл бұрын

    If by creativity you mean micro then yeah.

  • @jys365

    @jys365

    Жыл бұрын

    How creative is camping with siege tanks and watching the opponent's army just melt?

  • @richard3706

    @richard3706

    Жыл бұрын

    Terran rewards good mechanics the most, you can get by with terran just doing basic builds like 2-1 mech timings tvp and 2 rac academy into 3 rax tech in tvz and you'll do great if your execution is good. I mean in tvp what are some decisions you can even make to alter your build? Make one more factory before building your third base, building your third on location or floating it from your main, there isn't much creativity in the way pro terrans play especially in tvp. In tvz there's a bit more room for creativity but good terrans like light just do the same macro build 1000 times in a row.

  • @majormononoke8958

    @majormononoke8958

    Жыл бұрын

    lol, have you ever played Terran... Try being creative vs Protoss... Specially in the first 5 minutes of the game... lets see what happens ...

  • @Supperrman
    @Supperrman Жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @CanariasCanariass
    @CanariasCanariass Жыл бұрын

    As much as I love and respect Flash, no.. Just no.

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