This felt like a queer marketing meeting and I’m all for it

@thepotatoportal69

7 ай бұрын

Gaydvertising Adqueertising Marqueerting

@hypnopompicfool985

7 ай бұрын

It actually felt like less marketing and more sense and cohesion cause it wasn't going along with what colors are easier to print or market rather it's about the more important things like understanding and uniting ppl and all that.

@radicallyplstic

7 ай бұрын

ROVER ANIMAL CROSSING THE GOAT

@lucas-6107

7 ай бұрын

@@radicallyplstic Always glad to see Rover appreciation 🤝

@joaovitormatos8147

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, sometimes the queer community can have a marketing problem

tbh I like that the aro and ace flags have the color stripe on opposite sides. It kinda highlights the difference between sexual and romantic attraction and it makes them very easy to put together for the aro/ace combo

@Wicked_wannabe

7 ай бұрын

Yes! I think it creates a clear visual language of connected ideas but different topics, "flipped on its head" or like "two sides of a coin". I like the four color version of the aro flag, also I like the look of the less saturated purple for ace and then having the less saturated green on the aro flag, would look cool together. -I say this fully from a visual style point of view, and I don't identify with either label so don't take my words as representing anyone else

@disgustof-riley8338

7 ай бұрын

Aro/ace has its own flag

@stopreplyingtomycomments7954

7 ай бұрын

​@@disgustof-riley8338even though it does, many aro/aces like myself don't use it, I honestly prefer the ace flag with an aro heart on it, or the stacked version (one on top of the other). Idk man, it just hits different than the actual flag lol

@Quargos

7 ай бұрын

Personally, I'd also go the route of making the Ace flag 5 colour by adding the extra shade of purple, as well as maintaining the flipped colour order. I also know a bunch of peeps that really like the distinct AroAce flag, even if it lacks the shared design thing with the Ace / Aro flags individually, and gotta admit, even if it does lack that, it IS one of the more aesthetically pleasing flags out there. The other reason I lean on changing the Ace flag rather than the Aro flag, is I'm Ace, but not so much sure I'm Aro, so I feel I can kinda justify tweaking the Ace flag, where it's not my place to tweak the Aro flag.

@_axolotyl

6 ай бұрын

@@Quargos as some one who is both ace aro I personally don’t like the joined flag But I do think that the ace one should have 5 stripes while still being flipped just coz I think it looks cool tbh

A problem I've always had with the agender flag is that when my brain sees a digital representation of the flag it automatically treats the black bars at the top and bottom as letterboxing (like widescreen video) rather than as part of the flag. It's not a problem on the physical flag but it's most commonly seen digitally. I have a strongly held opinion that the agender flag should include a null symbol (∅). I'm partial to a solid colour flag for agender as well.

@ralsei2007

7 ай бұрын

im pretty sure the black ring has been a theme and representation of asexuality so just a ring could work as well

@syro33

7 ай бұрын

@@ralsei2007 It is, though that's usually a physical ring. A black ring worn on the middle finger to be precise! I believe some aromantic people wear a white one on the middle finger of the other hand, as the sort of symmetry you see a lot between acespec stuff and arospec stuff.

@b5fremdet

7 ай бұрын

The empty set flag😂

@GuiSmith

7 ай бұрын

I believe there is a gender set flag for a null gender, described more as emptiness than nothing at all (if I recall correctly), that used the null symbol and might unwittingly be roped in.

@losgann

7 ай бұрын

@@GuiSmith I believe nullgender has its own symbol that's a horizontally bisected circle. I've held the null set symbol opinion since long before nullgender was coined though.

my biggest gripe is that there is no consistent colour palette, i want the yellow from the rainbow flag to match the yellow from the intersex flag and the yellow from the nonbinary flag ughhh - mostly because when i display multiple flags in the same space it looks really bad when all the shades are different

@ernie39

7 ай бұрын

agreed!!!

@vynif_1263

7 ай бұрын

I def agree, and it helps put the flags in some kind of unity just by literally having an, albeit big colorrange, rescricted color pallete

@tsawy6

6 ай бұрын

i wonder what you could pare them down to. I reckon you could probably get it down to two of each colour, a light and a dark tone. Which would get you to 14 (roybgp + black/white). I don't really see how you could drop having two blues and two greens and still have the achillean flag work, pink could be light red tho. You possibly don't need an alternate yellow, but I'm not sure of that. This does leave us with only one pink and one red tho...

@j4rg0n

5 ай бұрын

I agree. I feel that if colors are supposed to have meaning, then colors should have a sense of consistency amongst different flags. If they don't, then it can't really be said that colors have meaning if colors of the same meaning are completely different hues.

@annoyingkid48

3 ай бұрын

The intersex yellow is the nicest yellow, should just be that good yellow for everything

I like that you picked up on and ran with the implicit visual language already used in a lot of these flags. That being: pink = feminine, cyan = masculine, purple = combination of masc-fem, green = absence of masc-fem, yellow = alternative to masc-fem.

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

adding to this, i've always interpreted the colors as: 💓pink: femininity 🔵blue: masculinity 🟣purple: androgeny 🟡yellow: ambiguosity/the entirety of neutrality 🟢green: absence ⛓️grey: other (xenos & anything that doesn't necessarily fit any of the above) ⚫⚪black/white: other genders related to abscence, like voidgender, or genders related to identifying as all of them, like pangender

@fuckoffyou

7 ай бұрын

Associating colors with sexual prefixes is so misogynistic and out and passe. All the pride flags are hateful and promote white supremacy.

@ballsalsda

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, a good nonbinary spectrum flag would include purple (androgyny), green (other/maverique), yellow (neutrality), white (all/many genders at once), and black (absence of gender)

@alvinsmith3894

7 ай бұрын

So basing it all on gender stereotypes. Gotcha.

@chikari123

7 ай бұрын

So reinforced gender stereotypes?

I think instead of taking one stripe out of the aro flag, I’d prefer to add a lighter purple to the ace flag; the gray- and demi- flags both have a stripe along the center whereas your redesign has a color separation along the center (I also just prefer the center stripe because I enjoy the way it lines up perfectly with the purple stripe of the bi flag because I’m aro-bi.

@Tezza5

7 ай бұрын

I was looking for a comment that matched my opinion on the aro and ace flags! I think one reason I love the aro flag and its order so much is because i love how it fades from green to light green to white. I think the ace flag would look much better (nothing against ace people) if it just matched the aro one more.

@arandomperson8438

7 ай бұрын

I'm bi-ace and I would definitely like the ace flag to line up with the bi flag.

@gavinwilson5324

7 ай бұрын

I hadn't even considered the demi- and gray- flags, but yeah, that's a good point. Adding light purple would also address the grievance that the ace flag's purple stripe is too saturated, as the lighter stripe would ease that contrast like the light green does on the aro flag. Besides, removing the light green would ruin some really cool symbolism; a gradient is way better than a solid color at representing a spectrum.

@charbird20

7 ай бұрын

Omg yes!!!!! That would be amazing! ❤

@dylanobrien3785

7 ай бұрын

Personally, I think that if the flag became a gradient like that that it'd lose its recognizability and personality. The current ace flag does a phenominal job at explaining the orientation through visual design, the black to white gradient showing a devoid attraction with the orientation being showcased in spotlight with a purple stripe. I think that storytelling is very powerful and perfectly representative.

5:43 This may be a little bit of a tangent, but I really like the way you said the lesbian and gay men flags are in conversation with each other. That's a really nice way to put it.

@alieneko_nyo

7 ай бұрын

there are people who hate the gay flag but tbh both look really good together :( one is warm and the other cool, both like the same sex.. it's like they are a lot similar but also different

@vincentgeiszler3749

7 ай бұрын

@@alieneko_nyoI feel like cold is harsh, I’d say “cool”, like jumping into a pool on a hot summer day

@alieneko_nyo

7 ай бұрын

@@vincentgeiszler3749 oh yeah. English it's not my first and I keep forgetting "cool" is a word and not an expression LOLOL thx!!

@mayonaiisse

6 ай бұрын

​@@alieneko_nyoyou are so real lol

@merlin_merlot

5 ай бұрын

@@alieneko_nyo no disrespect at all, and i say this as a trans gay guy, but your exact reasoning for why the flags look good together is why a lot of people hate the new gay man flag. saying that the lesbian flag is the 'warm colors' and the gay man flag is the 'cool colors' is reinforcing gender stereotypes, and putting the gender of man and woman on opposing sides which... is not how it should be. man/woman should not be seen as these complete opposites/inverses of each other. i don't think people meant any harm when they made that gay man flag, but by specifically creating it to have opposite colors to the lesbian flag, its just more gender stereotypes. gay men should be able to have a flag that is not just a literally hue shift of the lesbians' flag, and lesbians should not have to have the colors of their flag co-opted but in an inverse palette. !! the creator of the lesbian flag is literally currently struggling in poverty !! and there are plenty of gay flags out there that are really pretty and don't just use shades of blue. anyways, to me personally, the original gay flag still serves its purpose, and most older gay men are not going to be using the new flag, bc the old flag has always meant us, even if it's also an umbrella flag. regardless, i don't think flag discourse should ever be super crazy and i think people get really intense about it online. but i would just like people to really think about why its 'okay' if we continue to symbolize man and woman with colors that have reinforced gender since the 20th century. to be crass, its like if you stuck a barbie on a lesbian flag and a hotwheel on a gay flag.

A lot of these flags seem to have weird saturation because you're viewing them as flat, unshaded designs on a computer screen. In particular, the bi flag is known to look much more vibrant and cohesively saturated when it's on fabric. Computer screens tend to do weird things to color in general, like making brown look orange when it's against a dark background, or making things look more brightly lit than they're supposed to. That said, the ace flag is kind of a special case. No matter what shade of purple you use, it's probably going to look at least a little oversaturated when the only other colors are black, gray, and white. There is an easy solution to this, though! Just look at the aro flag; you'd think it would have the same problem, but it doesn't. The light green stripe creates a smoother gradient between the fully desaturated white and the fully saturated green. Adding a light purple stripe to the ace flag would not only make it closer to the aro flag, but also make the colors a little more harmonious. (I also quite like how the brightnesses of the stripes are symmetric this way.) I think this works a lot better than removing the light green from the aro flag, which would greatly undermine the symbolism of the gradient of green stripes representing the aromantic spectrum. On the topic of making the aro and ace flags more congruous, I disagree that either of them should be flipped. Aromanticism and asexuality may have a lot in common, but they are still separate identities, and can coincide as well as stand alone. Having the green or purple on one correspond to the black and gray on the other symbolizes this very well.

@ernie39

7 ай бұрын

I agree!

@lanie5759

6 ай бұрын

this was very well said!

History and flag nerd here, so I've got some choice thoughts about all these flags being so similar. Having a cohesive theme is good, like with the nordic flags, but _all_ of the pride flags being horizontal bands of color can make them hard to distinguish, even with different color schemes. Unlike the nordics, where there are only 6 cross flags (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, and the Faroe Islands don't ever forget them), with pride there are tens of flags that all have roughly the same shape which makes them blend together and hard to distinguish, especially for a layman like me. This tendency to think that the "essence" of a flag is solid bands of color is because almost every european country has a flag like this, and they all got it from the dutch. You don't see this as often outside of europe, though. Look at central asia, each country has an amazingly unique flag and you can tell they're all related from the designs on the flags even when some have solid color backgrounds and others have stripes. Tibet has an awesome flag while breaking pretty much every guideline from that ted talk. You can even make them not rectangles, like with Nepal and Ohio of all places. Having every pride flag be a series of solid color stripes gives them that shared heritage with the rainbow flag but also, with the sheer number of them out there, makes them feel hashed out and hard to distinguish even with all the color symbolism. You can do different shapes, you can do funky complicated designs, you can do whatever you want. Many of the best flags out there break all 5 of the guidelines from the ted talk, just look at Venice's flag to see what I mean

@killingtimeitself

7 ай бұрын

while it is true that they all feel derivative, i think thats intentional, since queer people, as a whole are a collective community, lesbians and aroace while identifying differently, are still queer after all. So from a symbolic standpoint i think it's important, plus it also makes pride flags instantly recognizable as pride flags, even if you don't know what flag it is, (though this does have downsides, people can just invent new shitpost flags, and people will start using them, this is the internet after all.) I also like the simplicity of the stripes, it's not about the major differences between us, it's about the minor differences between us, again something the flags all capture.

@Kiri68419

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking that at the very least to make the lines wavy (aka not straight, pun intended) or maybe tilt them diagonally or even switch up and make a few vertical, I think the ace-related flags would work really well if the lines were rotated 90 degrees.

@Manticorpse

7 ай бұрын

Have you considered that maybe there's just too many flags? I dont mean this in a demaning or dismissive way, I just think some of the more obscure ones could easily be grouped together. For example I'd personally simplify the demi-girl & demi-boy ones in one flag. (For flowing from one gender to non-binary)

@ffreeze9924

7 ай бұрын

@@killingtimeitself I fully understand why they are all derivative, it was a major point of the video after all, but I think there’s room for more creativity. If we’ve been able to come up with a color scheme for every identity that has deep, meaningful symbolism, can we not do the same with the shapes and patterns? Recognizing them as pride flags from a glance is useful, but also with more variety each one could be recognized more quickly to the less initiated. Another point I was making but didn’t push too hard was that having all of the flags just be bands of color is somewhat Eurocentric, because flags can be so much more than just the European tricolor model. This is why I brought up a couple Asian countries like Tibet and Kazakhstan. If we’re breaking away from traditional gender norms enforced through old European hierarchies, why not also break away from European flag tradition?

@ffreeze9924

7 ай бұрын

@@Manticorpse there _are_ a lot of flags, but there are also several hundred flags for countries around the world, even beyond the ~190 national entities, and most of them are easily recognizable and often very distinct from each other. If there weren’t many pride flags, I wouldn’t complain about the designs being similar, but getting rid of the symbols for several distinct identities would be a step backwards

The original lesbian flag is freaking sick. it looks like freaking viking pillaging flag. That’s so cool I’ve never been able to tell the ace and NB flags apart. You turned those into something beautiful (the first version of your NB flag)

@InAHollowTree

7 ай бұрын

I love the original Lesbian flag! I love that it projects strength and power. I wish there was a way to de-TERF if since they took it over. The newer flag leans too close to the “femininity =pink bc women are soft and love pink” trope.

@minngael

7 ай бұрын

@@InAHollowTree When I first saw the striped lesbian flag, I thought it was intended to be for femme/lipstick lesbians, not lesbians in general. Even more obviously with the kiss mark.

@fandommusings5302

7 ай бұрын

I very much agree. The TERF stink is hard to wash off, but in generally I really like the flags with graphics, the use of VIOLET specifically as a color is also just so good.

@the.axolotlgirl

7 ай бұрын

Mabye we can swap the pink for purple so it’s Halloween colors

@justanotherweirdo11

7 ай бұрын

NB has yellow. Ace has gray.

The genderqueer flag has one of those color schemes that kind of grow on you, I remember originally thinking green and purple was kind of ugly together, but now it's a cool combination, I think it speaks to what the community was going for. Also fun fact, apart from the paw print, my mom happens to have a blanket that looks a lot like the bear pride flag (she doesn't know what bears are or their flag, she just knows the classic rainbow pride flag), always makes me happy to look at it, like a personal inside joke.

@Topboxicle

7 ай бұрын

The Non-Binary Flag is the same, I don't know a single person who likes black/white/purple/yellow as a colour scheme until they've had to look at that flag for a number of hours. (the little I know about colour theory suggests that it's because the two accent colours are highly saturated and clash, when folks do pride art they usually desaturate one or both colour and it looks a lot better)

@kumoyuki

7 ай бұрын

The Hulk has purple trousers. Quite 'Nuff Said!

@No-longer1

7 ай бұрын

Personally the biggest thing that bothers me is that the green is the same hue and saturation as the purple. I think It’d be nicer if the green was a more light green, and either leaning a bit more to the teal or lime direction.

@anacecilia1387

7 ай бұрын

@@Topboxicle interesting you mention this, because I liked the non binary pride flag as soon as I saw it, this is in fact a color combination I like to use in my slides a lot, but whenever I do that, my professor and lab partners gently tell to PLEASE at least desaturate the yellow, their eyes are BURNING looking at the bright yellow on black.

@rachelcookie321

7 ай бұрын

I absolutely hate purple and green together but I think those shades work together, especially with the white band as well. It’s better than the asexual colours, I would take green instead of grey.

I actually like how the aro and ase flags are in terms of color placement because you can overlap the black parts and get a bigger aro/ase flag

@KodaCreatez

7 ай бұрын

There's already an Aro/Ace flag sometimes called the Sunset Ace flag for it's use of Blues and Oranges

@rubyh6256

7 ай бұрын

I like overlapping the ace and aro flags to make an aroace flag better than the sunset one because it shows what it's made up of. If someone knew the aro flag and ace flag but not the sunset aroace they'd look at it and say that's not aroace, because it doesn't include any of the colors we've come to know for aro and ace. And I know this is can happen because it happened to me, so I feel as some who, at the current time, identifies as aroace the aroace flag should at least include the green and purple from the aro and ace flags, if not just slotting them together at the black.

@KodaCreatez

7 ай бұрын

@@rubyh6256 the old AroAce flag used to be like this but we changed it and I've got to say I prefer the new design, I feel like the different colours makes it unique amongst the other flags under it's respective umbrellas And the Orange and the Blue technically are using the Aro and Ace colours Blue is one of the colours that makes up both Purple and Green, Whilst Orange is made up of Yellow and Red the other colours found in Green and Purple Whilst that might just be a coincidence I've always seen it as the Aro and Ace identities coming together to make something entirely unique and different Sure visual clarity between it and the other flags under it's respective umbrellas isn't the best but that makes sense as it's the fusion of identities from two completely different umbrellas

@emmettrose5960

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@KodaCreatezit is and isn’t a coincidence. The yellow-orange is a representation of relationships outside of the romantic-sexual binary, because yellow is often associated with friendship. You’re right about blue, though-it was specifically chosen as the color halfway between green and purple.

Someone said, 'the lgbt community defeats gender roles, and then makes a pink flag for girl gays and a blue flag for boy gays", and I found that really funny

my lil opinion abt changing flags: i like aro being different to ace. it highlights how they are DIFFERENT IDENTITIES, which people tend to forget. flags that arent alike is a nice way to remind people. I too like the purple swap.

For aro/ace I think (even if really close together), not being THAT relatable to each other is a good thing (heck, some people think they are the same thing)

@justanotherweirdo11

7 ай бұрын

exactly

@leda5505

6 ай бұрын

exactly

@tsawy6

6 ай бұрын

Would you agree with kinda the implicit statement of the video and my own personal intuition that they're... cousins? Speaking as someone twice allo, they're the two largest umbrellas defined by how they don't experience something.

@justanotherweirdo11

6 ай бұрын

@@tsawy6 Yeah I would consider them "cousins" which makes me think it's cool that the flags look related but distinct. They're not just color-swapped versions of each other which I appreciate.

@tsawy6

6 ай бұрын

@@justanotherweirdo11 mm. I felt mstching up the number of lines was nice, but i agree that keeping them flipped sends a nice message

Aroace here! Absolutely love small and in depth videos about niche topics! About the ace and aro flags, I remember reading on either one of the subreddits that the incoherency is actually quite purposeful! According to what I read (may or may not be super accurate since it's been a while) the aro flag (during its creation) didn't want to follow the ace flag because of the distinction between the two, which people who are not aspec aren't as aware of. The creator of the aro flag didn't want to "copy" the ace flag because at their core, being aro is different from being ace and want people to recognize that. I've also felt the lack of harmony between the 2 flags but once you kind of recognize the reasoning for why it was purposely made unharmonious there comes a small bit of appreciation for the design!

Not neurotypical enough to love cod, not neuro-divergent enough to enjoy pokemon, just on the spectrum enough to enjoy flag content.

@annoyingkid48

3 ай бұрын

what’s wrong with cod, they’re perfectly good fish :^(

@tumultoustortellini

3 ай бұрын

@@annoyingkid48 As an southern american, I must rep catfish. It's unfortunate, really >:)

As a person who got really into flag design and heraldry codes at one point, one of the big issues with pride flags is the order the colours are stacked in. In heraldry, certain colours are ‘colours’ (e.g. red, blue, green) and some are ‘metals’ (e.g. white, yellow). You don’t want to put colours on colours or metals on metals most of the time. Red looks better next to white then it does on green and yellow looks better on blue than it does against white. It’s one of the reasons red, white and blue is such a common combination in flag designs, you basically use white to separate your red and blue and you can do literally anything you want with it and it’ll come out ok. Sometimes you can get away with it visually, the trans flag is actually a good example of that as the two pastels work okay together (probably aided by the fact there’s only 3 colours) and the modern lesbian flag works ok because it’s a different shade of the same colours next to each other.

@phobics9498

6 ай бұрын

I totally agree. I immediately thought that the color stacking was a problem. In my personal thoughts about it before, I always separated it as "dark", that just kind of gave me a "heavy" feeling and "bright", which always came off as "light". This matches your color/metal colors so I guess i was onto something, though I just kinda came up with it when trying out different stacking orders with flags I was making. I always explained it to myself in the sense of "you want balanced contrasts between colors". Another thing I usually dislike though is uneven distribution. For example I think the Bi flag looks atrocious, mostly because it's just 3 heavy colors. It's like there isn't enough room to breathe. I think the 3 color rule exists mostly not because it's fundamental, but that most flags which feature more than 3 colors usually fail to stack them well, and so it was deduced as being due to the color count. This, to me, would explain why some of these flags looked good even though they violated it.

@LunaDeaminac

6 ай бұрын

@@phobics9498it does make it a lot easier to arrange colours well when you have less of them involved, that’s likely why 3 became standard. The other main reason to keep it to three back in the day was because flags are big, heavy pieces fabric that are a pain to work with, especially before printing directly onto fabric was an option. I agree with you on the bi flag. Whenever people talk about specific pride flags being ugly, that’s the first one that comes to mind for me.

I like what you did for the aro flag but I would not flip it to match it with the ace flag because I think it still creates that feeling of "being siblings" with the color palette AND if you wanted to use the aroace flag you could just merge the 2 blacks and put one on top of eachother like a lego piece

@Roseberry606

7 ай бұрын

That's what i was thinking aswell!! Having the aro flag flipped upside down would give a nice contrast with the ace flag, like they're similar but still have their differences

@SkyP9812

7 ай бұрын

Great minds think alike lol, I left almost the exact same comment a minute ago

@Time0ut

7 ай бұрын

@@SkyP9812 We truly are the same person there's no other explanation

@eisenhammer01

17 күн бұрын

I know this comments kinda old but there is an aroace flag just like what you mean, its called the 8stripe aroace flag

@Time0ut

17 күн бұрын

@@eisenhammer01 if you're talking about the orange and blue aroace flag then in my opinion I just don't like it Idk it just doesn't feel like any of their parent flags it feels like a flag for a different family class

I think the trans flag should have a crossbow on it. Think about it.

@theMoporter

7 ай бұрын

I think we should give trans people crossbows

@mrblakeboy1420

7 ай бұрын

@@theMoporter you should give me a crossbow

@axoodle

7 ай бұрын

damn you saw the stairs video too? think about it

@louiskernahan5890

7 ай бұрын

@@bigmikeobama5314such valuable insight you absolute Brussels sprout

@CyanWatercress4

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@louiskernahan5890i was going to reply to their comment but i was just stunned into silence because literally everything i wanted to say was conveyed through that alone

Gernany casually appearing at 0:30 is so funny to me and I don't know why.

@robertrabensohn3329

7 ай бұрын

Dieser Kommentarberich ist nun Eigentum der BRD

@robertrabensohn3329

7 ай бұрын

🇩🇪

@flip.flap.

6 ай бұрын

​@@robertrabensohn3329I understand that's it's just a silly joke that doesn't seem to be malicious at all, **but** there are negative associations that may be made of saying that in relation to anything related to queer people.

@agsheuehd

6 ай бұрын

what pride flag is that? 😂

@CarlytheQueenofChaos

5 ай бұрын

Unser staat unser reich mein Kommentarbereich 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

The issue is that there aren't any cool dragons on them

I like a lot of what you did here! A couple things I very much liked: • love how the aromantic flag matches the asexual one now • the reciprocal symmetry for the trans/noncis flags is very nice Something I have Opinions on: I don’t agree with the approach you took unifying colors for the noncis flags by reusing colors between flags. All the flags on the top row were unified in a desaturated/pastel vibe, which was lost when trying to match colors between flags. Furthermore, because those same colors are used next to different colors, they end up looking different anyways because of how our eyes perceive color in combination with what surrounds it. So if you did want them to look the same, they shouldn’t be the same hex code anyway. Instead, what about trying to desaturate or make more pastel the bottom two flags, so that the unifying theme for noncis flags is “symmetry + desaturated/pastel”? I think that would read more clearly than trying to share shards of a color scheme between flags. Thanks for this video, I’m always down for vexological(sp?) video essays and it was interesting to see your changes!

@dlivingstonmcpherson

7 ай бұрын

This is genius, love the pastels approach

My only critique is I like the aro and ace flag being flipped from each other but keeping the same "black,gray,white,colour" scheme. I think they should be flipped because the concepts are kind of the same but inverted and I feel like the flipping of the colour scheme indicates that.

I was so on board with the aro ace family untill you changed the aro flag 😭 I would change the ace flag to add an extra purple stripe, probably even keeping it upside down compared to the aro flag, but just making it 5 stripes

@thesleepydot

5 ай бұрын

I would make the same changes as you!!

Even as a trans person, I vastly prefer the older pride flag. It looks perfect and the triangle clashes sooo hard 💀 I don't think anyone actually feels excluded from the rainbow!! 🌈

@rateeightx

7 ай бұрын

I don't _dislike_ the progress flag, But yeah I think I prefer the classic rainbow one too, It's simpler and more iconic, And it's already meant to be inclusive.

@vycanismelodis

7 ай бұрын

this is the take right here!

@TevelDrinkwater

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree. First, it's a flag, it's supposed to be symbolic. All of the OG pride flags *symbolize* a rainbow. Next time you see a rainbow look where one colour ends and the next begins. Also, the colours represent abstract concepts such as Red = Life, Orange = Healing, Yellow = Sunlight, Green = Nature. My preference would be for the slightly more modern 6-colour pride flag. Loosing Turpuoise, Indigo, and gaining Blue still works as being symbolic. The pride progress flag is getting away from being a flag and being an abstract symbolism. I guess it's why the US flag has to keep adding stars for each new state whereas the EU flag just has 12 stars even though there are 27 member states now. Also, you can have a specific flag in addition to the old rainbow flag, kind of like national vs. state and city flags.

@Reptidin0

7 ай бұрын

Tbh I feel like by trying to include people with a specific symbol, it’s excluding as it’s singling out a group rather than letting it be known they’re included under the umbrella as a whole Basically it feels like it’s saying trans people are the “other” part of the LGBT community rather than simply a part of the LBGT community

@till851

7 ай бұрын

I understand your point but i read the rainbow part of the flag as the sexuality part and the triangle part as the gender part and i think that it's important to highlight the trans community especially in these times where violence has risen up rapidly, this also gives us an opportunity to fight the transphobia from within the community by bringing them on the flag and those who don't support trans people wont use it and we can identify them easier @@Reptidin0

As an aroace person, the ace/aro flag discrepancy has been bugging me forever. I love the colors of the aroace flag (the yellow and blue one), even if it's not widespread.

@tiredasexual_8334

7 ай бұрын

Even tho i literally used the colors of the aroace flag on my pfp, i kind of wished it was a mix of the ace and aro flag. Like removing the grey and black and balancing it with the aro + acr colors. I suck at explaining so it looks kind of like: Green Lighter green White Lighter Purple Purple

For any aspiring vexillologist or graphic designer looking for a flag to edit, the Bigender community is looking for new designs! The old flag was made by a bad person and people want a new flag but any new designs just don't hit like the old one did.

First off, love the video. I do have one note: 11:05, the aro flag should be reversed, and let me explain why. So, ace people are united through lack of sexual attraction, not through romantic attraction. That's why the top three stripes are monochromatic. Aro people, on the other hand, are united through a lack of ROMANTIC attraction. Ergo, the flag should represent that and be a mirror, not a copy. (but that's just my opinion as an aro person)

@mayonaiisse

6 ай бұрын

you mean "shouldn't"?

@SkyP9812

6 ай бұрын

@@mayonaiisse that's a matter of perspective. It should be reversed from what it was after the changes, but the change that was to reverse the flag should not have happened. Toma-toe tomahto

@mayonaiisse

6 ай бұрын

@@SkyP9812 oh sorry i misunderstood your comment, english isnt my first language

Fun fact: the lateral symmetry of the trans flag is intentional, so that no matter which way you hang it, it will always be right, symbolic of the sentiment that no matter where your gender goes, you're right and have a right to exist

1) The increasing chevrons on the Progress flags looks terrible imo but I haven't got any better ideas 2) I lost my shit at the sunset flag wars thing. I can't even remember which one was supposedly transphobic... 3) The skinny purple on the bi flag is very awful imo. I always choose equal width stripes for my own bi pride stuff. I get what you're saying with unity but. Eh. 4) The trans flag is absolutely perfect, no notes, there is a reason it became an eeveelution. 5) Omg that genderfluid one. What in the MOGAI-archive were they thinking with that colour palette. My condolencences to the genderfluid community. PS: I am fully in support of the gay (m4m) flag but I do internally agree with the common criticism that it looks like toothpaste

@eduardog3000

7 ай бұрын

I don't really like the progress one. It's trying to represent too many things at once and they're just sort of shoved in there. There are already trans and intersex pride flags as well as the pan-African flag. If we want to represent those the solution is to fly multiple flags, not shove them all together into one. And like I said elsewhere, the toothpaste flag is just bad and not needed.

@probium2832

7 ай бұрын

@@eduardog3000 I don't like it because it is a fucking design disaster as well

@slyar

7 ай бұрын

I don't really care for the "it's toothpaste" thing. It's pretty, and toothpaste is pretty; I'm using it

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

what I think people don't notice about the bi flag is that it matches the gay pride flags with the stripe sizing. The pink and blue count as 4 stripes while the purple is just one.

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

also the achillean flag is perfect cause it's nicknamed ocean flag, matches the sunset flag perfectly and cause i'm a gay masc and I said it is perfect

I like talking to the funny flag person in my phone knowing full well they cant hear me.

I actually really like that the Aro and Ace flags look different, assuming Aro and Ace are the same things or have to go together is really a problem I think, and really hurts Aroallo and Alloace people (speaking as someone who is Aro but questioning if I’m really Ace too or if I just assumed they had to go together)

4:04 red often holds relations to blood, which generally has a negative connotation considering almost every country with red on their flags ends up doing bad stuff.

At first, I thought this might've been a homophobe thing, until I saw the fact she actually wanted to do an actually accurate flag design-

I'm currently very emotional, so you reiterating how we're a community and siblings and share experiences made me cry

@martinacuna9556

7 ай бұрын

✊

13:29 I’m extremely glad that you didn’t think that the agender flag needed to change because you would’ve had to change all of the Demi genders as well which includes Demi, gender, Demi girl, and Demi boy, because they all look the same, except for the stripe of pastel color in the middle, is different depending on the identity.

For the genderfluid flag, a lot of the other genderfluid flags that aren't the genderfluid flag, like demifluid, librafluid etc, have a gradient stripe in the middle (the demifluid flag has them on the sides next to the white in the middle, but you get the idea.) doing that with the genderfluid flag would be cool. You can still have the lateral symmetry and it wouldn't be as hard on the eyes.

@justanotherweirdo11

7 ай бұрын

That's an option but gradients aren't that ideal when it comes to making physical flags. The demifluid flag looks pretty nice though.

my one change to your designs would be to give ace a fifth stripe instead of taking away a stripe from aro, because it then also makes it fit with the aroace flag! (the orange yellow white and blue one)

I think the purple of the bi flag is desaturated because a big part of design and color theory is that if you're gonna use some saturated colors, you need to use a desaturated color to balance the colors out and make the pallete come together. And i love that, the flag looks amazing. It may be because its the flag of my sexuality, but it just looks so pleasing

I've always felt that a lot of the pride flags needed a rework... Buuuut as a cishet man, I felt I probably shouldn't be the one to bring it up. I love the queer community, but I also like good flag design. It'd be cool to see some redesigns of the "weirder" flags. Also, looking at the part where you added a heart to each flag; Maybe you could have a shared symbol between different categories. It could add some more cohesion to have things match in that way. Great video, by the way!

@nightslasher9384

7 ай бұрын

Nah, it's fine. Feedbacks are feedbacks. As long as you're being respectful with your feedbacks, it would be treated as helpful suggestion.

Am I alone in loving the genderfluid color palette 😅?

@justaperson1123

7 ай бұрын

Nope

@moonleigh3469

6 ай бұрын

No, but it needs to be Purple-pink-white-blue-black (dark warm-light warm-white-light cool-dark cool) also we should totally make the stripes wavy

The genderfluid flag feels like putting potato chips at the bottom of the grocery bag. Definitely agree with moving the strips around!

Nitpick; The Genderqueer flag's pallette isn't similair to the UK suffragists, it's similair to the sffragettes, the ones who bombed letterboxes (and pro suffrage politicians homes for some reason, they were a little silly sometimes)

@theMoporter

7 ай бұрын

The fear when I see a username with green, white and purple heart emojis and can't remember which is the good order and which is the evil (TERF) order

@fandommusings5302

7 ай бұрын

Lol honestly. It's....inconvenient, and it totally undermines the point of a flag!

@alvinsmith3894

7 ай бұрын

@@theMoporter Reality is evil? LMAO.

@justanotherweirdo11

7 ай бұрын

@@alvinsmith3894 TERFs are awful

@Cuppachoccy

7 ай бұрын

@@alvinsmith3894what?

Shame you didn’t mention the sunset aroace flag. It’s absolutely beautiful, but admittedly doesn’t fit in with the other flags in the aro/ace family. Personally, I think it would be nicer to unify those flags by adding a stripe to the ace flag instead of taking one from the aro flag. And, as others have said, I like the aro flag being flipped upside down from the ace flag. In my opinion it helps emphasize that while ace and aro people have a lot of shared experiences and history, they are distinct from each other, which a lot of people outside the community are confused by.

@crowbirdy

6 ай бұрын

yeah, Aroace flag specifically doesn't match on purpose because blue and orange are the colours between green and purple. It always felt like kind of a stretch to me, but it's really pretty so I don't really care :)

I really like the idea of all the non-cis flags having a unifying shape/symbol. The chevron on the pole side looked _great,_ but it feels like “demi” flags have already laid claim to that particular convention. I tried my hand at some concepts myself (only got as far as applying them to the trans & enby flags though) & I really liked how they looked with the white (& black, when applicable) stripe as a diagonal cross, similar to the flag of Jamaica. I also rather liked the take I did that was your version, but with a shape in the middle. I tested it out with a white diamond & liked that because simple = aesthetically pleasing, but I’m sure a shape with more meaning could be found.

@niallblack2794

7 ай бұрын

Have you got any images of your flag ideas online anywhere? I'm curious to see how they look from your descriptions.

@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix

7 ай бұрын

@@niallblack2794 I made a pair of community posts with them for you, & added some slightly more experimental takes that I didn’t mention in the comment too :)

@niallblack2794

7 ай бұрын

@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix awesome thanks, I will go have a look

15:50 kurzgesagt cosmic death beam flag

The one thing I'd have done differently is having the ace flag made similar to the aro flag and not the other way around, because aro is quite a bit less known and often just smushed in with ace, and i feel we need to pay a bit of omage to our aro friends and adapting to them rather then the other way around

Rings on the gender umbrella flags would be grossly inappropriate, since the intersex flag was specifically designed to be extremely distinct.

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

it was just an example, hearts wouldn't make sense either but she used it to bring back the symbols already seen before

I think there is too much emphasis on not changing the colors instead of not changing the meanings Also, many of the trans/genderqueer flags could have been simplified and by getting rid of that vertical symmetry. Although, with the current order of stripes genderfluid is pretty similar to bisexual which, honestly I take as a happy accident

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

genderfluid has always been similar to bi in order stripes

@No-longer1

7 ай бұрын

And I am also pretty sure the arrangments have meaning? The trans flag does with the pink and blue I also really like the more salmon pink of the og flag

@amyrose8912

6 ай бұрын

omg as a genderfluid person ive always hated the flag but you've just COMPLETELY changed my perspective wow thank you

In terms of the genderfluid flag, the order of the colors also has meaning, the pink and blue girl and boy, the purple is the in between gender euphoria/expression and the white and black are every gender euphoria/expression in between those, so to change the genderfluid flags color order is kinda to change the meaning of the flag, thank you for listening to my tedtalk ~a genderfluid

@Stoopy_Gregory

7 ай бұрын

As another fellow genderfluid person I agree

@Dalenthas

7 ай бұрын

But it's so dang ugly. Why can't we have something pretty? -also genderfluid

@camtheratman

7 ай бұрын

@@Dalenthas im of the unpopular opinion that its really cute so I cant help ya there lol

@SunshineRey

7 ай бұрын

I think if the blue was a lighter shade but still darker than the trans flag, it would definitely feel more cohesive and inline with it without changing it too much. Like the pink and the purple have good contrast with the white, and the purple also has good contrast with the black, but the blue feels a bit off next to the black. I love the order cause of it’s meaning, but the shade of blue to me is the only problem in an otherwise amazing flag. -another genderfluid person drifting through the internet.

@camtheratman

7 ай бұрын

@@SunshineRey i could totally get behind that yea

No response to the actual video (aside a minor correction that it wasn't the expense of mass producing that lead to the simplification of 8 to 6 stripes on the rainbow flag, it was the expense of home-making the flag, particularly for a minority community who are often struggling financially), just general nodding along - Nothing I disagree with, nothing I have strong opinions on.

The title initially had me worried but I like the direction this video went, the idea of a more cohesive theme between the flags makes sense in my head

I like how you say *flag designe since 2010* and show us instantly the german flag. It was funny, as a german myself I appreciate this kind of humor I really did laugh

My therapist- Pan flag with a thin yellow stripe cannot hurt you... Pan flag with a thin yellow stripe: 9:30

@khaosinc2015

6 ай бұрын

tbh the thin stripe change was my favourite in this whole vid alongside 4 colour flags 🤷🏼 didn't have to screw around with any colours & instantly brought some cohesion between the 3 flag designs

Okay so I'm very colourblind. And the way I am able to tell differences between the flags is that they either all have white in different places or are somewhat different, right? Now I realised once you started editing the non-cis genders that I am way more colourblind than I thought i was and so many of them looks horrifyingly similar

@supaiki

7 ай бұрын

cause they used the same format for all of the flags. i dont like these redesigns, the old ones had more diversity and it makes each flag more unique

My sister has a pride notebook and didn't even notice it was pride until I pointed it out to her.

4 stripe aro flag genuinely looks so good

14:06 riddler flag

14:21 *grimace* ooof, i feel like the two very saturated colors next to each other are kinda ugly. Maybe a tad more pastel (ohh, thats probably why the trans flag works; the pink and blue are very light) (also op did say they wouldnt change colors) or maybe switch the purple to the middle (although the con with this is that it becomes a lot closer to the sufferage flag op showed)

12:40 as someone who is a bit colorblind, I absolutely despise that shade of pink. The og trans flag looks like blue, pink and white to me while with the modified pink, it looks like blue, different blue and white.

@LettuceGayming

6 ай бұрын

While I get where you’re coming from, it makes it harder to connect it to BLÅHAJ

I think, if it were up to me, the ace flag would be 5 stripes to match the aro flag (rather than the other way around), and then the nonbinary flag's layout could be used as a base for other genders that fall outside of the binary (leaving the trans flag as it is)

Really nice ideas. I most of the time confuse many of the flags, if they had some sort of unity like this I'd still confuse them but I would know under which umbrella they are.

Your redesign of the aro flag is unfortunately identical to the androphilia flag, lol. At first I was a bit bothered by the fact that the aro and ace flags don't line up, but now I don't mind it. I get your point about them being "sister identities" in a way. There's definitely a lot of similarity and solidarity between our communities. But I think that people too often tend to conflate the two, not realizing that you can be aro but not ace and vice versa. So having some visual distinction here actually helps imo. Also, there's a separate flag for aroace people, so we don't necessarily have to use the aro and ace flags side by side. It's orange and blue, intentionally distinct from either the aro and ace flags because it's for aroace people who don't feel like their aro and ace identities are separate (we don't need to use the split attraction model). I'm aroace and that's the flag I like to use most. Good video!

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

what is the androphilia thing?

@iyote

7 ай бұрын

​@@lav-kitty As far as I can tell, it's another term for androsexual, that is to say, attraction to men/masculinity. It's a term that may be used by nonbinary people given that terms like homosexual or heterosexual don't necessarily apply. (Attraction to women/femininity is gynephilia/gynesexuality.) It's not very commonly used, I think. I only know this because I saw the flag a while back and also thought it would make a good aro flag, then learned that's not what it was. But I figured it was worth mentioning.

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

@@iyote oh so it is what I imagined, it's just a little weird to me that someone would use the sufix philia for that

@syro33

7 ай бұрын

what about the opposite? Using a modified Ace flag and adding a lighter purple color like the Aro one? I made a mockup on my phone and think it looks really nice, personally.

@iyote

7 ай бұрын

@@syro33 I've seen designs like that and I like them! If the goal is to make matching aro and ace flags, then I think that's the best route (but personally I'm still fond of the simplicity of the original ace flag, with only the single stripe of color ^^)

I actively despise the progress pride flag. Now Im white so I can't speak to the messaging around the brown stripes and the progress flag but I can speak to how it makes me feel as a trans person. Every right that we enjoy as queer people was fought for in Stonewall, it's the shared mythology we all have, but seemingly the rest of y'all forgot that it was trans women, who started it all. Growing up in 00s suburban America I had a strong sense that I was queer, but that my queerness wouldn't be acceptable, i.e. I was/am not an effeminate gay man or a butch lesbian, and i was/am unwilling to tokenize myself to get the recognition of the queer people who had tokenized themselves and the cis/hets who were the people tokenizing. This gave me a strong sense that the rainbow flag wasn't for me, a sense that other people told me was wrong, that it was for all queer folk I just dealt with shitty people who traumatized me. And then y'all come along with the progress flag, all but confirming the truth to my eyes. My queerness isn't acceptable, it's an intrusion in a movement y'all didn't even create. P.S. Y'all isnt meant to attack any specific person more just about the vibes I get from cis queer people. I know I come across as like really bitter when I say all this, but hey, trauma, it makes you bitter.

@tiredasexual_8334

7 ай бұрын

Hate being that guy but im so sorry you had to go through that. Your experience is valid and i hope you can work to move past your trauma. Im not a very optimistic person myself but hey, look on the bright side, the progress flag is a way of ensuring that future non-cis queer people feel included and represented in their community. ❤

For the aro and ace flags, I think that the better thing to do would be to simply add another purple to the bottom of the ace flag. This would add similarities without making them seem like they are simply copies of each other with a minor palate swap. I like the way that the ace flag is upside down, it gives enough of a difference for it to be considerably different from the aro flag. Yes, there is a ton of overlap between the aro and ace communities, from how they are such similar identities with a lack of attraction, along with aroace bridging the gap, but they are inherently different, almost opposites in some ways, and I feel like the flags as they are now (or with the extra purple) encompass this interaction between them well. If you simply delete the green stripe and flip the aro flag, it seems like a copy, which is something that is already deeply rooted in the aro community as it is usually overshadowed by the ace community.

I'm an old flag, bothered by flags. I was stuck in a "too many, always changing" old ruth. But you have changed me! Your 100% pure artistic and visual analysis and/or approach, emphasizing visual coherency is moving me towards more flexibility and appreciation. Thank you.

This video ended too soon lol, I was fully prepared to hear you out for like another hour. This is such good content and I'll be sharing it with all my queer friends.

Oooh, if you take the pink/blue/brown/black area of the progress chevron then you get an eight sided derezzed heart. You could then use the white heart-chevron instead of the triangle-chevron as shown at 17:30 with the cut out either the main flag showing underneath, the flag colours turned sideways, or the six pride stripes.

the german flag at around 0:40 killed me lmao

“What pride flag is that?” “Germany”

9:05 *cries in Omni*

Personally I think it’s a little frustrating how we’re trying to lean away from gender norms like “makeup it for girls, Star Wars is for boys this is masculine this is feminine” and then pink is for girls and blue is for boys in the Lesbian and gay flags😑like come on, seriously? I mean I do like the flags but it just seems ridiculous and hypocritical.

@fandommusings5302

7 ай бұрын

That's sort of the thing with symbolism, it sits very close those kinds of cultural norms and can be hard to avoid. The 90s Lesbian flag uses violet (since violets were a very sapphic coded flower), which I think is very cool.

@BloomPawzzz

6 ай бұрын

@@fandommusings5302 I wish there was violet in the current lesbian flag. The modern flag is pretty, but the lack of violet is such a shame. It's such an important color to include.

8:14 NOOO DONT RUIN THE HEX PLEASEEE, ITS A55 T1T B00BS

@ieatplasticandNOBODYcanstopme

6 ай бұрын

Actually it's A55 D1C B00B5 (or replace the 5 with an S i don't remember aaaaaaasdfghjkl)

@joocXD

6 ай бұрын

I barely remember too💀

I can't be doing with the chevrons on the Pride flag. It SHOULD be a totally unifying flag to begin with, it's a literal RAINBOW.

I like the intersex flag, it’s simple and iconic, and a circle generally represents “everyone” as a whole

!|My personal opinion|! [11:11] Idk why but I don’t like the turned around a-romantic flag, it might be bc in the version that’s shown there are very thin lines between every stripe so it has nothing to do with the actual flipping of the flag and I did also see someone saying that when someone is a-romantic and a-sexual the flags can be combined together and I do like that idea I also saw someone saying that put together digitally it’s a bit confusing as your brain can process the 2 black lines as the screen and not the actual image of the flag and I do see what they mean but for the general flag (not digital) I prefer it the way it is and there aren’t really issues with this I do like that the amount of stripes is changed bc it also bugs me that the a-romantic flag has 1 stripe more lol

why were us lesbians robbed of having a super cool axe i think we should have it back

@junouris7139

6 ай бұрын

It was made by a man

almost all of your changes make major improvements, i hope the communities would adopt them haha. the difference between the aro and ace flag bugs me a lot. ur changes fixes a ton of issues! great work

Personally, I agree with every flag change proposed in this video except for the genderqueer one. I prefer the three stripes over the five. I think it’s more properly symbolic to being genderqueer vs transgender. I also really liked the green and purple with the chevron, and the circle, too

i think a butterfly on the gender flags would be super cute and represent the sort of metamorphosis of our experience with the change in our expression compared others’ impression that we all share

As an aromantic man myself, I like the idea of the ace flag having the greyscale on top and the aro flag having the grayscale on the bottom, because it emphasizes that ace and aro are similar but not the same. If I were to make a change, I would add a second, lighter purple stripe to the ace flag, right above the purple stripe that already exists. That way, it mirrors the aro flag.

I wanna use them so bad. I’m such a visual nerd and I love good design so, sometimes the pride flags really bug me. I use the bi flag and some other ones often and I just wanna tweak them so bad. Thank you for this. It’s dope to see

16:41 the nonbinary flag you made here happens to be the flag of an enby microlabel, neononbinary so that might cause some confusion. Also that genderfluid flag looks really ugly

As another queer who loves vexilliology I love what you have done! I wanna say that I slightly prefer the originals overall because they have gathered a lot more meaning overtime and because they sometimes have less colors so less stuff to remember. The one problem I already had with the trans flag that gets brought to the new one is how since the colors are doubled it’s hard to remember their order at least in my opinion: if every color is there once it’s easier to know where they are. Amazing video!!

Glad to see you posting again! I loved your Utena videos.

Welcome back! Great to see your content again ❤

0:33 the German flag LMFAO 😭😭 Also I sorta redesigned pride flags too but I really just made the lines squiggly bc we’re not straight so why should our stripes be straight yk

So good to see you're back!

@fandommusings5302

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! :)

The fun with flags episode we didn't deserve but we all needed

Thank you so much for including the bear flag. Being a part of that community, it feels as though it's never even acknowledged despite being a large and totally valid community. Even the flag, despite being old, is often overshadowed by one of the newer AroAce pride flags which for some reason took a similar color scheme to the bear flag? I totally agree with you that flags should be in conversation, the AroAce flag that's a combination of the Aro and Ace flags just makes sense.

pride flags should really have a universal color pallete lol

@user_hat

7 ай бұрын

YES.

@Arania_3.14

7 ай бұрын

They really should, but also... We're queer, we'd break these rules immediately :P

5:49 The gay flag is slightly smaller than the lesbian flag. I am going to bite your arm

Honestly I could see this video becoming a piece of history one day.. Anyways, I really like your changes! It just makes everything feel so much… better, y’know?

this is a thing that i brought up multiple times, and even made my own designes for each flag

imagine if every lgbt flag had a symbol (like bear and leather flag 3:58), it would be so cute, reminds me of care bears with symbols on their bellies

@𝚒𝙸𝙸𝚞𝚖𝚒𝚗𝚒𝚘𝚞𝚜

2 ай бұрын

Ong, fr

I definitely agree with that the flags aren't coherent at all, and these designs definitely fix it really well! I feel like, by making their root design similar, the flags maybe are easily confused with one another. Also, some flags are really just iconic. That's also explained well in the video! This video is a great example in exploring different flag options:)

What if all of the gender flags were vertical stripes, to distinguish them from horizontal sexuality flags.

@canonsunkmyships

5 ай бұрын

that's what i thought!!

When you mentioned greyromantic and greysexual I got really happy

One suggestion for the symmetrical gender fluid flag would be to remove the black stripes as the dark blue serves a similar purpose. Also talk of the aro flag reminds me of a version with yellow and orange. I vaguely remember a lesbian flag with lilac, green, and yellow too.

@lav-kitty

7 ай бұрын

I actually like the idea of the black removed cause it'll look like the nonbinary flag

@syro33

7 ай бұрын

are you thinking maybe of the sunset aroace flag? I think its blue and orange