Let me know in comments did it work for you.

@lopatovich

11 ай бұрын

Sorry but you forgot to show us what was an actual performance drop by scrolling to hwinfo cpu tab where it shows frequency and core multiplyers. In my short experience, curve optimizer is already enough to make cpu go faster and cooler due to more thermal headroom. Its basically an undervolt as if its were a gpu.

@JWTulkas

9 ай бұрын

thanks for the great video..... I've got a 7600x and B650e-f and I recently enabled PBO and set it to 'Enhancement' and then 'Level 2 - 80c' and my PC wouldn't boot/BsoD windows repair. It booted again when I cleared the settings. The only other setting I have changed prior to this is the DDR to 6000mhz in EXPO1, which is stable. Did my PC not boot because I didn't change the 'curve optimizer' as well? I'm a bit nervous to try again as I don't want to corrupt my Win11 Install / Nvme Drive. You mention the 'sweet spot' in the curve, I'm not really sure what that means. What does 30/15 etc relate to? Sorry for the questions, Thank you

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@jhaygano1875

6 ай бұрын

i dont understand, we got the same CPU but my cinebench score is 1102. crazy yours was 19000

@vladimirljubopytnov5193

6 ай бұрын

@@altiboxtv9570 I had this one and had to return it... there was no way to flash any other bios version after flashing once to the newest.

This was greatly helpful. Im running a 7700x and a MSI Mobo. I was watching YT videos and my CPU would start ramping up to 67 degrees celsius with my fans ramping up loudly. After doing this im running constantly around 40 C with quiet fans. Much appreciated.

@SaulPeralta218

2 ай бұрын

Did you lose performance after this or it stills being the same?

@Hamzimza

2 ай бұрын

@@SaulPeralta218 Still the same!

I wanted to thank you, i have changed a bit the settings you showed in this video, and now my pc works greater than ever!!

thank you for mentioning to low the Curve Optimizer at 25,20 and below if we have problem with windows, i actually did at 30,25 and 20, but at 15 everything works fine now

@s6h693

Ай бұрын

Sorry dumb but is going lower better?

With my 7600x a negative 30 offset alone brought the cpu temps down 10°C and my cinebench and 3d mark results got better too. The best thing is though that when i open games like Cyberpunk or Metro Exodus now, my fans don't ramp up for a short time as high as before, its really pleasent now. Thanks for making this video!

THANK YOU! I usually dont comment alot but my temps went from 95C when trying to run a specific game down to 60C! Anyone with a AMD 7700X consider this before making any hardware changes. I almost bought an AIO cooler thinking that my PC was running too hot!

Definitely do this people.. it will drastically reduce fan noise, and also help keep your other components cooler, Definitely worth losing a couple % in performance

@CarinoGamingStudio

9 ай бұрын

its called underclocking.

@ayayotoko

7 ай бұрын

I'm just playing CODM in Gameloop. do you think this is okay?

@gontzalcaig

7 ай бұрын

I did this and my % performance even increased, so yeah, just do it.

@sstier48

7 ай бұрын

@@ayayotoko yes

@patsk8872

5 ай бұрын

@@gontzalcaig That may depend on the "silicon lottery"; exceptional parts could perform better even undervolted, while bad parts could perform worse. But either way it's a good idea. Save power and extend the lifespan of your parts, take the few % hit if necessary.

Thank you for the tips I have the 7700x and when I was gaming my temps would of gone up in the 80 now it stays cool

@armandoarroyo

10 ай бұрын

Did you apply this same settings? Mine could not handle -30 I set it to -25

@AuburnMan

Ай бұрын

What are you averaging?

@ashura7684

27 күн бұрын

@@AuburnMan on games i average around high 60

Thank you so much, the temps got a lot better and the performance was strangely BETTER.

Thanks for the video. On looking at the hardware info voltages your soc voltage is 1.35. With the recent reports of burnt cpu's would be better to reduce this down manually to 1.25 or put a newer bios version on to hard lock it at 1.30v. Thanks man.

@ValkryNL

Ай бұрын

Isn't that what the curve optimizer does? Undervolting?

It worked very fine! I played around a little bit and set it on PBO 30 with the PPT limit on 100 watts (7700x). Now i got smooth 69C with the AiO (Arctic Freezer 3 - 240) set on 27%. Its so quiet and cool. Lovely! Cinebench R23 score is 19241 (90 watts was 18894 and stock was 19160) Thanks a lot!

Great stuff, I readjusted with cpu 5800x3D -- temps max is 10 degree lower and 3Dmark rezults for Time Spy -- on cpu 500 score higher ! From 9800 to 10300 ! and temps to be excat from 92 to 82.4

Great video. Followed this and got great results

Great stuff! I had issues using Ryzen master but this way seems to be stable so far. Using a 7600X with a noctua nhd15 I'm maxing out at 67°C during a R23 all core test.

@williamgallan7573

10 ай бұрын

@@Kolestroll-cg1hx my temps were down from about 92°C to 67°C after following the process in the video...

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@williamgallan7573

7 ай бұрын

@@altiboxtv9570 nah, I'm not familiar with Asrock bios's sorry.

@iVETAnsolini

6 ай бұрын

Google it

@EC88838

5 ай бұрын

What are your idle temps before nd after?

Your channel is God sent. Thank you.

Just finished my new build with a 7600X and damn does it run hot! It likes to spike a ton and it has plenty of thermal paste. I am seriously about to send this air cooler back and get an AIO to help bring the noise down.

I'm glad I watched this. I'm selecting components to build a robust mid-range gaming system and was considering AMD for my CPU, currently I'm running an i5-4590 with a Radeon HD 7900 graphics card and the temperature is 31° C... according to Crystal Disk 8. A lot has changed in ten years and the learning curve is steep... but now I have the time to research.

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@zagan1

Жыл бұрын

The people that have problems will never tell you, what they are bios setting or how they are cooling the CPU. 1 guy is running ram at 6200 so the soc is running at 1.45 volts all the time on the old Bios. The new bios runs the soc at 1.3 volts at max

@sphaera3809

Жыл бұрын

I think one can get more optimal results tinning negative voltage by core. -30 on all cores might not work for all. And one should run a battery of tests before assuming a tune is stable. On my 7900X, curve optimizer values vary from 0 to -20 depending on cores. That with eco mode +10% gives me a lot of performance never getting overly hot.

@scamdem1c

Жыл бұрын

make sure you get a good cooler and update the BIOS as soon as you can. i heard stories of peopIe frying their CPUs, especially the ones with the X3Ds. even my low end 7600 can get quite hot for some strange reason. RAM instability is also a common issue. my motherboard had the old 2022 BIOS. freezing and crashing stopped after i updated BIOS

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

You should also decrease SoC voltage, 1.35V is way too much. Based on my vast experience with a total number of two Ryzen 7xxx CPUs, going as low as 1.15V is pretty much risk free (with EXPO enabled), while reducing uncore power to a significant degree. This way you get lower idle consumption (and temps) and "more power" for CCDs (if TDP is what limits you, which will be the case for all non-X CPUs running more than two-three cores at full load).

@hititsenpai7615

9 ай бұрын

I'm thinking of buying the x670e aorus master with 7700x. Is the issue of VSOC voltage resolved with the new bios revisions in Gigabyte? I couldn't find anything on this topic neither on Reddit nor Buildzoid's videos. Thanks in advance for answering.

@tomkocur

9 ай бұрын

@@hititsenpai7615 it was "resolved" with F10 BIOS in May. Latest version is F13d with the latest AGESA.

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@samiyulislam8899

6 ай бұрын

I have the exact settings from the video copied apart from setting the curve optimiser from 30 to 20 because I think that it is stable. I am running an AMD Ryzen 5 7600x and have lowered the SoC voltage to 1.15v. However, my PC runs fine, it's just once or twice, I do encounter application crashes. I don't know what to change to prevent this? Either increase/decrease my voltage or increase/decrease the curve optimiser? Other than that, I definitely do recommend people to do this as overall temp lower, power consumption lower and in some cases performance increases. This has happened to me in my case with my CPU.

@tomkocur

6 ай бұрын

@@samiyulislam8899 this is how I do it - it might take couple of days, but it's necessary if you want your system stable: 1. BIOS settings to default, restart 2. Upgrade BIOS to latest 3. BIOS settings to default, restart 4. Enable EXPO, boot to windows, run OCCT stress test (1h CPU, 1h RAM), or equivalent. If there are errors, there's problem with RAM modules. 5. Decrease SoC voltage and stress test, until you find stable minimum 6. (optional) Decrease VDD IO and run memory stress test - the difference here isn't huge and some boards (MSI latest bios) don't even allow this, when I forced it via ryzen master, I ran into issues. 7. Increase negative Curve Optimizer value and test for CPU stability. You might want to use varying load at 1-2 cores so they're pushed to the max. Stable minimums will depend on multiple factors, so it's hard to recommend specific values. I don't recommend using "memory context restore", though. It makes boot almost instant, but it might impact stability quite significantly.

Great video. Thank you.

Curve ball, but that first run, within 5k on cinebench of that w-3265m - 24 cores and hyper threaded, and only 4 ish years old, AMD are absolutely smashing it

Please consider making a very detailed video on updating BIOS. This video was awesome, and I know there are loads of people like me who are totally lost when it comes to this. A detailed, step by step video would be extremely helpful! Asus new bios release says something about using bios renamer? I'm already lost there.

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@Miguel-th3wx

3 ай бұрын

ASUS manual literally explains BIOS update? Renamer is in the file that you download for the bios.

@45eno

2 ай бұрын

Format a flash drive Download your EXACT motherboards BIOS. Make sure it’s also the correct version of the board. Extract the bios download and copy and paste only the main file (about 30mb in size usually) to the formatted flash drive. Plug that flash drive into a USB port and boot into BIOS. Find the BIOS flash option and then select that 30mb file and proceed with update. Make sure to not mess with the pc during update until it states it completed. Usually about 1-3mins to update. Then reboot into BIOS page and check to see if the newer version is installed.

Nice! thank you.

Thank you so much! i'm using ryzen 5 7600(non x) and my temp was rising to 75-80 ° during cpu intensive games like cyberpunk and battlefield 2042.after doing this i'm getting 55-60 ° with almost the same performance

I copied your bios settings and went from 91.3C to 71,1C MAX temp, I didn't know this was a problem until I saw my temp numbers... Thank you!

@Forty2de

Жыл бұрын

Anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.

@scamdem1c

Жыл бұрын

@@Forty2de when mining monero what would be the ideal undervolt? i want to get maximum efficiency where i mine with the least amount of power consumption. how do i do that on a gigabyte motherboard? there are no guides on the internet so i dont know how to do this. im new to these things and has zero experience with gigabyte motherboards

@GregoryShtevensh

Жыл бұрын

​@@Forty2de🤡

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/@@Forty2de or dont i need to toanything

Great video. Small performance hit and a large improvement in temps!

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@terry9397

Жыл бұрын

7.3% drop in temperature (-27K) and 40% drop in power consumption (-58W) for a 3.4% drop in performance. Not bad. Definitely worth it in this case.

@SuperFredAZ

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100% well worth doing with high power chips.

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@SuperFredAZ

8 ай бұрын

​ @altiboxtv9570 try finding a video on KZread. Basically you can dial down the system clock 5% or so and drop the voltage on the CPU 5-10%, also the memory voltage a few percent. You dial down and then test for stability, maybe run Cinebench for 10 minutes and see if it's stable. With the clock speed and voltages reduced you may get a 20% decrease in power for a small reduction in clock speed

Thanks. I built my 7600x new PC yesterday, I was frightened to see that at only 50% load, the temperature instantly went up to 80+° , even with a quite good Assassin 120 SE. resulting in lots of noise from the cpu fan!

@minisculex3

11 ай бұрын

U can use fan speed software and adjust ur fan speed to reasonable speed cause ryzen 7 has a normal high temperature, it was meant to be like that but ur pc wont think it normal so u gotta adjust the fan

@450__TP

4 ай бұрын

i have a 7600x with aio cooler idle at 38C and while gaming for like 6h its only hit around 50C

@MrCrrispy

4 ай бұрын

@@450__TP yes, but you can only achieve this with undervolting as explained in tutorials. With stock motherboard settings/voltage, it's a mess 🙂

@450__TP

4 ай бұрын

@@MrCrrispy nope when mine was stock I hade those temp

@MrCrrispy

4 ай бұрын

@@450__TP yeah sure, it's a special one... 😅

I've never had problems with high CPU temperatures, but I did have an old Dell Latitude laptop that did get very warm, unusually hot, even when only doing basic tasks. I found out it's cpu thermal paste had gotten pretty dry, maybe it needed a thermal repaste. I don't have experience doing that sort of thing though.

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@technoWZ5598

Жыл бұрын

@@Britec09 Great video by the way 👍

@jTheDigitalDoctor

Жыл бұрын

I have extensive experience doing that sort of thing having worked in a computer repair shop for 7 years. Avoid it if you don't know what you're doing as you can cause more harm than good.

@technoWZ5598

Жыл бұрын

@@jTheDigitalDoctor Ok. Interesting. I would love to learn how to do a thermal repaste someday.

@jTheDigitalDoctor

Жыл бұрын

@@technoWZ5598 Well, usually the whole laptop has to come apart and depending upon the orientation of the board the board may have to come out. From there it's usually about 4 screws that hold in the heatsink. You pop them out and apply a pea sized amount of quality thermal compound and spread it out with a credit card over the surface of the chip then tighten the screws back up. Here's where a lot of people screw up-they apply too much torque on the screws. All that does is cause the sink to bend and squeeze out the paste. Just tighten to slightly over finger tightness in a star pattern and you're done. Eventually your Dell will overheat without fresh thermal compound-at the very least the longevity of the device will be shortened due to the heat and performance affected. Heat creates entropy in the system which results in performance degradation. But Latitudes are old and no longer produced I believe so your best bet is to buy another laptop anyways. Yep.

I undervolted my i5 once so it could run boost clocks indefinitely, this old trick definitely can make a hot processor much more efficient under load.

Similar to my previous AM4 3800X CPU, undervaluing and not using the default offering of the AMD precision boost with very minor tweaks would always result in better FPS due to sustained clocks and lower temps. I find the method of the negative curve and thermal limit on my 7800X3D works very well at keeping temps down while actually maximizing CPU clockss due to lower temps. In you Cinabench test you lost about 500 points for workload but in games you may actually gain FPS due to maintained higher clocks.

Hey everyone , I have watched 50+ videos re arranging bios settings and tried many softwares but nothing worked for the past 3 weeks as i person who has received a new pc i was worried but after wasting my time on all of these videos , I went to my guy who build my pc and he changed the orientation of my cpu cooler fan. My cpu on idle ( 60°C ) and under load ( 100°C ) went to 25°C on idle and 60°C under load . Hope this helped ❤❤❤❤

Thank you for your work creating this video. Could you make the same video for an Intel based computer?

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

I can do

Thanx again for your very informative video. May I ask? Does this work for the X570 motherboards also. i am currently using a amd ryzen 9 5950x. Lastly always good to save some on the electricity bills. Thanx.

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

I did one for x570 3800x

Thank you! It works with 7600 cpu and also increase slightly the results! I just dont put a power limit, and its fine

@darkod3380

4 ай бұрын

could you please explain what changes have you made? thank you and also, please let me know what parts you're using (cpu cooler, case etc..)

@SwedishTerminator

2 ай бұрын

@@darkod3380 this is what im running on my R5 7600X Precision Boost Overdrive = Manual PPT Limit 100 CPU Boost Clock Override = Enabled (Positive) Max CPU Boost Clock Override(+) = 50 Platform Thermal Throttle Limit = Manual Platform Thermal Throttle Limit = 90 Curve Optimizer = All Cores All Core Curve Optimizer Sign = Negative All Core Curve Optimizer Magnitude = 20 (Should be as high as possible but 20 is likely fine if you don't want to test it, mine does 26)

@darkod3380

2 ай бұрын

@@SwedishTerminator do you think i have access to these changes with R5 7600?

@mariokrok-adamski842

Ай бұрын

@@darkod3380it all depends on your motherboard and settings might have a bit different naming, but should be almost the same

Thanks for this video i tried doing a negative 30 on my 7700xand it worked first try. I'm playing bf2042 and in 128 player maps i was getting a temp of 84-85 and now it stays around 70-73. In baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk I'm seeing about a 15c drop as well. My cinebench 2024 score also went from 1062 to 1104. I'm using a peerless assassin for my cooler.

@joelkaufmann1601

3 ай бұрын

Did you copy all his settings? Or something else? I run the 7 7700x aswell and it gets very hot

@Pacifica_909

3 ай бұрын

@@joelkaufmann1601 I just set the curve to negative 30 like he did and that's it. I tried setting it to eco mode but it caused noticable fps drop in bf2042 conquest 128 player

Too hot for sure! Great video! Shouldn't have to tweak bios for cooler temps!

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

I agree

With a 7900x my score at first was 25k but the temps where also at 95C the limit. After doing the steps here It went to 24.5k, but the temps dropped dramatically all the way to 55-60C!

@Daveed2407

11 ай бұрын

Same settings? Mines boots to blue screen with the 7900x

@buffalowxngs1512

9 ай бұрын

@@Daveed2407 I'm planning to do the same for my 7900x, but noticed that hes running a 7700x. Did you ever find the right settings to prevent the blue screen while booting?

@user-jh6fl5in8d

5 ай бұрын

@@buffalowxngs1512 PPT 230, TDC 160, EDC 225 for 170W AM5 Processors.

Hey 👋 there, I have a question about changing settings in the BIOS as I’m using the same BIOS as you are with my Asus B650E. Ok, my question is, If I change ANY settings in the “AI Tweaker” section, will it Overrule Any settings I change in the “Advanced” section of the BIOS? Please let me know if you can, I’m tryin to learn here.

I have a 7800X3D and a NZXT Kraken 360 Elite aio cooler. Using stock thermal paste that came on the aio, my temps are 40-50 idle, and 45-65 while gaming. Under a hour stress test in OCCT at 100% load, highest temp I saw on the CPU was 78C. Is this considered good?

@austinrey4284

9 ай бұрын

Good temps

@bluesguitarg

2 ай бұрын

Were these temps with stock settings or after applying the changes shown in the video?

@clave2049

2 ай бұрын

mine are about the same too and i have the exact same setup

You helped me make a custom iso of windows 11 to have my programs included with installation . This is a big help for me building multiple PCs .

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

Thank You!

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

7800x3d... checked my temp while gaming 59C.. and i only have 1 case fan so far because i've been too lazy to put the others in. Cheapest possible air cooler i could find for the CPU btw ( Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2, like 32 euro / 32 usd)

@randonkbay

9 ай бұрын

yeah i dun get it, I'm running the same 7700x he is and temps under heavy load push 78-79 degrees C with no knee-capping. I'm running a cheap 360 rad but I guess it's working.

Well I set this to 40 and to my surprise system works fine ran a cinebench23 30 min stress test with a result of 19300approx while on stock it was around 19700 other settings I did was i set the power draw to 115watts and temperature limit to 85. I am running a ML240 cooler from Colermaster , Oh yeah boost clock goes to 5.1ghz and stablizes around 5.06ghz

I've changed my settings of my 7600X exactly to the example in this video, and it's stable after 2 hours of prime95. The temp went from 95 to 60 under stress, but the CPU benchmark score went from 10.5k to 8.5k. Which setting does affect performance the most? I want to crank up the performance to around stock level..

I have a 7600x that I have the PBO offset set to 80 and the max temp at 80C, it draws 65w usually. Bought it when they were new and have been running it like this for almost a year now.

I am hoping for The Division 3 or similar, then i am gonna do this undervolting thingy, but for now Ryzen is my editing rig, couse they do this thing. Kinda like them open world ones, cba with Battlefield or COD. Fallout titles are more my taste. I have Intel i5 9400 for older games, works perfectly fine. Think the newer Intel chips have heating issues too ?

Using Ryzen masters curve optimizer legit lowered my temps by 15 degrees in some all core load situations. It does take about a hour, but it will give you the best undervolt for each core, if you set it to do per core.

@borjairanzo6113

6 ай бұрын

Hi, can you explain how to do this? I'm a newbie and couldn't find the option in Ryzen Master to calculate the optimal undervolt parameters. Also, once I have these parameters, where do I need to establish them? In the BIOS? Thank you in advance :)

@Triro

6 ай бұрын

@@borjairanzo6113 Just switch to simple mode, and select per core, and then click optimize. It'll take a hour or two. But it will offer you some uplift, depends how well you won the silicone lotterly. For me I got a really good undervolt.

It's always better to run @ lower temps if no other reason than to increase component longevity. Another thing you can do is use either AMD's toolkit or maybe your motherboards software ex: (MSI or evga) to under-volt the CPU/APU you can lookup online what safe voltages are & this will also decrease your temps while usually improving your base & boost clock speeds & will also prevent thermal throttling. If your unsure both Gamer's Nexus & Linus Tech Tips have extensive vids oh the how & why this works with both benchmarks & real-world application testing as proof.

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@MrC8025

Жыл бұрын

i don't know. If it's design to run at 95c 24/7, I don't really care about the temps. I'll use co to get higher clocks but that's about it. Most people like myself will hardly ever full load anyway. It'always in the 50s during my gaming sessions.

@Mike__B

Жыл бұрын

@@MrC8025 I think the problem that we've been seeing with "ASUS burning out AMD chips" though is exactly related to this issue. The way AMD designed it is that if it's not going past 95c then we can give it more power, so the chipset itself may be designed to run at 95c however that says nothing about the interface with the LGA and the chipset. But you're right, if you don't use 100% load then the CPU isn't getting that high, and that benchmarking tools like this are designed specifically to run it at 100% load, however there are the case where it may get to full load and if it doesn't get as hot as you want you could get arcing occurring which again fries your chip and MB. If your primary usage is gaming, there's no real negative to just throwing it into eco mode and not have to ever worry about the power issue.

@96kylar

Жыл бұрын

@@Britec09then why buy a 7950x. Buy a 7800xt and over clock it. Why are you even scared or worried ?

@96kylar

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike__Band wrong. ASUS x670e-e since November been fine . I bought another one.

Mate. I see your CPU idle temps in your bios are at 47-50c. Mine runs warm too at its lowest I’ve seen it at 44c but normally at about 47c. Do u feel this is normal I would have thought like 35c. Would be a normal CPU temp??? Are our CPUs running hot?

Anyway, to get lower idle temperatures? I tried this, but the temperature seem to be the same.

Thank so much imma try on my 7700

@RinconjrTFM

Жыл бұрын

How did it go?

I just upgraded my pc with this cpu. I ran multi-core in cinebench without messing with the settings or bios and get 621 as a result. I am not sure if I got a faulty chip. Thoughts?

Not until I was 49 in 2007 did I finally Cave in and bought my first Acer laptop with Vista preinstalled and the books I read. At that time I was inundated with PC Nerds insisting XP was better and even into when Windows 7 first came out. That being said, Does start menu x include a windows 11 default option? Thanks for right click context menu but again, how do I go back to the default context menu if I want to stay in practice? I always recommend people should watch your videos if they want to improve after purchasing Windows 11.

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Great video. Many thanks. Which is best Intel or Ryzen? 👍👍

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Depends really

Honestly i run a 7900x and not had the temp issues like you been saying, even when under load. I know it can hit 95 at times but mine has been pretty damn good and 95 is under full load and usually even cyberpunk will not hit my cpu with full load nor any game i have played.

I set mine to the same but I don't seem to get reduced temps, it just limits it to the 85 on load. Strange, I guess theres something I'm not understanding

De-lid the badly done interface plate. Not exceptably done by Amd. Go custom. Nice work with this one's settings, Britec09.

On the curve optimiser, you said some people can get away with - 30. When I run ryzen master curve optimiser it sets mine to - 50 after it's 30min test. I get a max boost just shy of 5.5ghz. Is that good? This is my first build since the fx days. I have a 7600x currently.

60.5c max temp. 90.w max 5,126.8 MHz avg And cinebench score of 19264 Awesome guide mate, cheers very much for putting this info up. Did not like seeing those 95c temps

@MagnumDragon

9 ай бұрын

I’m having issues heat issues but with an SFF build. Trying the video settings. It baffles me how high this chip runs. Even with a 240 AIO. Went with a 95 PPT, think I should go higher with a 7800x3d?

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

I have a ryzen 7700, this values that you use for 7700x will work for my processor?

I did this for my new build, ASUS B650E-F with 7700X, and it ran okay for about a week, then my ASUS B650E-F motherboard starting getting BIOS boot failures (CPU and VGA lights on). Turned the power off and restarted and it passed the BIOS successfully, but then failed the same way on the next reboot. Changed the setting back to the way they were and NO more BIOS problems. No thanks. Funky.

@jt864

2 ай бұрын

that 0-30 thingie is not 100 % stable, and thse bench tests doesnt show . if soemthing doesnt work try lovering your number by 5 .

145w to 87w, or 66% more power consumption for only 3,5% more points on cinebench. 100% worth controlling those temperatures. And most likely longer life.

19k in Cinebench on factory defaults? My 14700k with -0.015V undervolting and cutting all boost power from 253/135 watts to 110/110 and all core boost ratios from x55/56 to x40 making 26000 in Cinebench with temperature not over 65-68 degrees Celsius. And it was 30400 on default settings.

The 7600x are designed to work at 95C and then it throttles its performance according to how good cooling you provide it with. Misunderstood reaction to a non existing problem. You might get some extra performance by a bit undervoltage.

Is there any major performance impact when gaming using this "workaround" ? Cheers

7:15 why doesnt it say that curve was also changed? was it changed at all?

Easiest is to bump the amps and wattage in the eco from 65W to 80W, for a total of 105W (vs the stock 105W with a real usage of ~150W). The temp limit sometimes don't work, and still will allow the CPU to do above the set limit.

@EC88838

5 ай бұрын

@ProDigit80 how would you do this? Eco mode is 65 but then how do you change it to 80

Thanks for this video, you literally saved me. Just built a new PC with a 7700x and while playing (Remnant 2) my CPU die average hit a max of 130c on HWinfo. The PC didn't crash, but screen wen't black for like 2-3 secs and the fps dropped from like 130 to 60 fps. Now after doing this my highest temp while playing the game was 85c. Cinebench was around 74c with a score of 19673. Could you perhaps make a video of why sometimes the screen goes black for like 2-3s but the PC doesn't lag or anything and nothing shuts down, just screen goes black for no reason and turns back on, i wonder if it's something to do with the RAM or just in general AMD CPU's? Before this i've had a PC for 6 years with a 7700k intel and 1080ti. Currently it's a ryzen 7 7700x with 7900 XT GPU

@jjlw2378

10 ай бұрын

85°C while gaming is insanely hot. I have an overclocked 13900k and my temps never reach more than 60°C while gaming. Are you sure that's the actual temp while gaming and not the temp when compiling shaders or something else? The black screen issue is probably instability in your system. It's either overheating and shutting down or if you followed the steps in this video, your negative offset might be too high. Return everything to stock settings and see if it continues to happen. It's possible that your CPU cooler mount is incorrect and that's why your temps are so high.

@jjlw2378

10 ай бұрын

Black screen could also be an issue with your HDMI/Display Port cable coming out of your GPU. It could be losing connection momentarily and then reconnecting.

@nekoklo3153

10 ай бұрын

@@jjlw2378 Nah man, my temp was only around 74°c when using cinebench, also i said i got an 7700x CPU, it's temps usually go around 95°c stock. I'm using a tower cooler, not liquid. So the steps from the video helped me. But i will try to use another DP-cable, might fix the black screen, it goes black for 2-3s and comes back, but no stutters or anything it happens randomly not just while gaming. Before i did the steps on this video my CPU reached 130°c on HWinfo. And i noticed the game dropped significantly in performance there. Only happened in "Remnant 2" the game

Whats the difference between doing this and using Eco Mode. Based on searches ive seen good things about eco mode

To make sure the curve optimizer won't make the system unstable, i suggest using the auto curve optimizer in ryzen master and put the result in the bios.

@williamgallan7573

10 ай бұрын

I have never got a stable result using Ryzen master, doing it this way in the bios has worked great for me!

@altiboxtv9570

8 ай бұрын

I got an Asrock 650-e pg itx, can you tell me how to go about this in my bios? Please :/

@kjcl90

7 ай бұрын

​​@@altiboxtv9570hit delete on startup to enter bios. There should be a fan optimizer option that'll do it for you automatically. Then toggle your curve manually from there if you wish.

My 7800x3D idles around 43-48c when I game it goes up to 63c to 82c is that normal? I haven’t use the steps in this video yet. My gpu stays around 48-54c.. Edit: I tried this and now my pc idles at 34-44 degrees and GPU stays at 34 idle after doing some tweaks to the gpu as well. Now gaming my max is ~50-77 degrees and the clock speed stays at 5GHz in all cores now for some reason! So this is very nice

@jonjon3829

4 ай бұрын

good temps, nothing to worry about

I'm trying to follow the video instructions but I cannot see the "Curve Optimizer" menu anywhere. CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x, MOBO: TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS WIFI

Thank you, im running the ryzen 7800x3d with -30 on all cores, processor runs like 3 degrees cooler in cinebench r23 without a problem

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@SoW-CE

10 ай бұрын

Hello what board you using and can you tell me if you have some issues? And whats your temp of cpu in test? I have too 78003xd And dont know how to set it up

@bolamatyp

10 ай бұрын

@@SoW-CE hi, im using the Asus strix x670e-a Mainboard. Since im utilising Precision Boost Overdrive, the CPU Always goes to ~80°C under heavy load. If you just want stability dont mess with core Offset described in this Video. It is also important to install the latest BIOS update & chipset drivers and then enabling Expo

@SoW-CE

10 ай бұрын

@@bolamatyp i have latest bios gigabyte b 650 aorus, ryzen 7 7800x3d, And 65 temp max but i played only "The isle evrima" with that so i need test another Games... But i think max GHz core is 4.80.. For me.. IS safe make it to 5.0?

@bolamatyp

10 ай бұрын

@@SoW-CE my CPU doesnt hit 5ghz even with PBO. I would not advise to overclock the CPU manually, since the 3D-Vcache chips are extremly sensitive to temperature. For Games it doesnt even matter, the 7800x3d is almost entitely bottlenecked in most modern games, squeezing Maximum performance out of it in exchange for stability isnt worth it IMO.

I'm running a Ryzen 5 7600x. I'm just using a humble Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE. Never passes 90C when running Cinebench.

Great info but does the same settings apply to R9 series?

@tasecolaxaz3934

3 ай бұрын

Yep , this works for both the 5000 and 7000 generations of all ryzen processors

on some videos I see the ppt limit at 85000 and you at 85. Does putting it at 85 automatically pass it to 85000? Are these settings good for a 7800x3d? thanks

@kevinsteinman8967

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the bios...some will add the zeros for you after saving and rebooting. Others want you to input the whole string.

Good video...

@Britec09

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I noticed @ 8:10, infinity fabric clock at 2000 MHz and Memory at 3000 MHz (for DDR5 @ 6000MHz). I thought i read Infinity fabric should be 50% of memory rate for DDR4 and Ryzen 5000. Has this changed for Ryzen 7000 and DDR5 ?

7700x on air (NH-14s) on a Asus TUF B650 (thrash motherboard) same settings, -30, 85 w, 85 degrees - 19246 CB23 with 80 degrees and 86 w .

thx

On the Asus board what’s the difference between doing it on ai tweaked and in the advanced mode? Also on the curve optimizer is set to -30 and cpu boost clock override to -30 what will happen?

When setting up the negative curve, you then went to PBO Manual mode instead of Enabled, to apply the 85 PPT and 85 Thermal throttle. On the Bios save and exit screen, list of changes, it didn't show the negative curve change from earlier. Is this because it wasn't applied as you went full manual or does the curve still apply? Thank you!

@DeathByHentai

Ай бұрын

It does show, you just need to scroll down to see the changes. It did apply.

I don't care about the temperature, but Incare about the power consumption. Great video. I would have appreciated a more in depths explanation on what the settings actually do, but it was good enough and i can just use Google.

My cpu runs 71,6 Celsius using cinebench with an air cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO) out of the box. Should I still make the bios changes?

Same cpu, same settings. In cinebench, cpu never went past 59c. In helldivers 2, cpu went up to 69c. Considering it was going up to 90+, pretty good improvement.

I’ve had zero issues on my 7950x build. Run eco mode just cause I can but without that, no problems.

When I get my 7800x3d, I will be trying your settings .and will send you some bread🤌money

I have a 7950x, I did this with optimizer curve -40 and PPT 85w and the temp is 48°c in cinebench 2024 and 1722 pts in multicore, idle is 31watts of ppt

I noticed that your idle temp is around 45 C. I also have a similar idle temp and my ambient temp is around 23 C. Is idle temp of 45 C ok with 7800X3D?

I’m using 7800x3d and able to do a -30 curve but my temps never go down. Even after applying the 85 PPt limit. Why’s that?

@cryonic.

11 ай бұрын

the x3d chips are just gonna be hot no matter what. so unless youve got good water cooling or aggressively undervolt, expect high temps to be the norm

I still think that you should try to run a test by flipping your radiator fans.

What do I do with my Ryzen 7 5800X (ROG Laptop) to properly lower the temps and not affect the performance much? Im running up to 97-98 😵

My 7600X is as cool as cucumber. Tested it and it went all core 6ghz. Temps under 70 degrees. Which I wouldn’t want full time. But for 6ghz seems brilliant. Now It reaches 5.8ghz on 2 or 3 cores under load and typically temps are low 60s. I might have just got lucky. Outperforms my old i9 from only 2 years earlier by some margin across the board.

@guillaumegodon1995

5 ай бұрын

70degrees for 7600x is low x) this gpu is made to go to 85-90 and stay at that temp. max temps is 95

Can I do this with Ryzen Master and copy settings to bios directly from the software?

Just watch the video. Altho I know AMD says it's completely safe it just scares me seeing high temps. 85ppt and 85ttl lost me about 1200 points on CR23 so i upped my ppt to 90 now only losing lioe 500points. Would raising my ppt do anything just to see how far i can push a negative 30?

People should know that anything below 95 degrees *isn't* a problem. It will not harm your CPU's lifespan in any significant capacity. You will replace your CPU when it gets outdated long before it starts to wear out. It's only if you do some serious overclocking or your CPU is constantly thermal throttling that it begins to wear out in any meaningful timeframe. Also note that during a benchmark like Cinebench, your CPU temps will be much higher than in any real world applications such as gaming. The moments where it does heat up are typically so few and short that it's nothing to concern yourself with. What you do get from the lower temps is that your room won't get as hot and your CPU cooler won't be as loud. Lower wattage also means you save some money on electricity. However, it's usually the GPU that's the determining factor here, not a Ryzen CPU. Graphics cards use way more power and generate way more heat these days, your CPU doesn't have that big of an impact.

@The_Panda62

Жыл бұрын

what is "throttling" exactly? also im using the 7700 and boy this thing loves to go straight to 90 when i do any gaming or downloading at all and i have no idea why, it usually mellows out around 85 after a while but im not sure why it does this

@MrC8025

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Panda62 90 is nothing. It's design to run in beast mode every chance it gets. I don't think these CPUs can thermal throttle by design. I did a manual oc and it just shut off when I accidentally let it over heat at 105c. Clocks never throttle, just shut off.

@The_Panda62

Жыл бұрын

@@MrC8025 yeah I ended up undervolting it and capping it at 85, it’s just annoying because my fans are loud as shit

@ramair325

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Panda62 so change your fan curve, also if your gpu is running open air cooling having better case flow could help or setting a custom fan curve on the gpu to help keep temps down a bit. the cpu is not that power hungry to need lots of cooling. its just auto boosting to give the best performance. you could also set the cpu to eco mode and it would reduce temps / fan noise.

@minisculex3

11 ай бұрын

​@pwningpanda3826 uses fan speed software and adjusts its curve to ur liking. the sudden fan noise is due to ur computer thinking the 70c on ur cpu is bad and it need to run it in high speed fan but in reality 70c to 80c is normal for ryzen 7 when gaming to transferring file to installing game etc etc

I have 7600x and now TTP 95w and magnitude 40. Temperature are about 76-77 celsius maxload. Cinebench score rise 14253 ---> 14661. I could tweak settings even lower if i want even more cool running system. My start point was 95 celsius. When im gaming my cpu is like only 55-59 celsius, so its pretty good now.

@vaceffl33t85

3 ай бұрын

Could you please help me out if possible how to do that or some advice, ive tried the offset but only managed -10 , anything above that was crashing whenever i oppened a program in the background, do you think its also maybe cuz of the ram im running expo on 6000mhz

@jp4361

3 ай бұрын

@@vaceffl33t85 i dont thing that memory doesn't effect. I found that in gaming i need to use 30 or it crashes eventyally. Did you also lower your power consuption? How big power you have. If you follow video advice it shoulf be working atleast magnitude 20 negative. What motherboard you have?

@vaceffl33t85

3 ай бұрын

@@jp4361 I crashed even on -15 cinebench was okay 10mins but later on opening stuff on desktop, im on -10 atm seems stable, my motherboard is b650m ds3h

@vaceffl33t85

3 ай бұрын

@@jp4361 What is it called in bios to lower power consuption?

@jp4361

3 ай бұрын

@@vaceffl33t85 I have gigabyte motherboard so i have Advancet cpu settings, precicion boost overdrive, PBO limit, PPT limit [mw] 90000. That means my cpu maximum power is 90000 mw ---> 90 wats. If you have different motherboard, it can be wats or milliwats. Many of these youtubers but PPT limit to 80wats/80000mw, so cpu is even cooler. Second setting i have now Curve optimizer ---> all cores, All core curve optimizer sign ---> negative, all core curve opzimizer magnitude----> 30. It depens your system and luck how high you can put that magnitude, but its like 10-30. That PPT limit is the main thing that lower your cpu temperature. Try 90w or if you want even lower temperature then 80w.

I just disabled Precision Boost Overdrive. It doesn't make a huge difference in performance, but keeps the CPU cool and stop the fan speed thrashing up and down..

My 7950X is 55o degree on idle with a negative 20 curve optimizer. Pack power at 61W. Possible to get the temps lower the 55 on idle? Cheers!

@OkanTandogan

2 ай бұрын

same here with 7700x

How do you determine what wattage to set ? I have a 7900X and I don’t think 85w is enough. Any help would be appreciated.

@user-jh6fl5in8d

5 ай бұрын

PPT 230, TDC 160, EDC 225 for 170W AM5 Processors.

What is your mainboard model brand