Was looking for a solution to my problem and you guys nailed it, thanks!

Thanks heaps for the video. I filmed myself today during one of my training sessions. When I watched it, I noticed that my knee caves slightly on the jerk. I'll definitely try some of these exercises.

Subbed. This channel looks full of great resources.

This is spot on! My knees are out in the dip and then cave in in the drive up. I fixed it by doing a shorter and faster dip and drive but will add your drills as well to improve. Question: do you know why this happens? Thank you again Greg for a super useful video!

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Thank you for the guidance!

Literally found this issue in my technique today, Greg's telepathy coming in clutch

Thank you!

Thank you for this video! I noticed this issue in my jerk at the beginning of last year and no one ever told me! I thought it was odd since I dont have valgus in any other movements. Will definitely give these drills a try

So much great stuff here! Thanks again coach Gregg. I have been sending my brother your videos and now he can't stop talking about them. He also can't stop talking about your Thompson HS wrestling shirt. Where did you get that one? From Louden Swain himself?

Wow, great timing! I have had this issue since I started lifting. I'm excited to try some of the drills demoed here. One of the reasons I've struggled for so long with this issue is it's actually hard to feel. No matter how much I focus on pushing my knees out over toes during the dip, at basically any meaningful load, when I review film, the caving is still happening. Other than slowing the movement down, any tips for working through these drills when you can't feel the difference between good and bad form in real time?

@CatalystAthletics

4 жыл бұрын

That's the purpose of using pauses and slow movements - you WILL be able to feel it in those cases, which means the possibility of controlling it more. But beyond that, in these exercises and in jerks, focus on pushing out in the DRIVE, not the dip. The motion occurs as you change direction to drive up - it's easy to keep the knees out as you're dipping.

@raptors4444

4 жыл бұрын

@@CatalystAthletics Awesome! And makes sense. Appreciate the reply!

Should I do all of these exercise in one session or just pick 1/2 and focus on them?

@CatalystAthletics

Жыл бұрын

You can do the dip squats, PPs and pause jerks each 1-2 days/wk - same session is fine. I'd do the depth drops 1x/wk.

Great vid! Have you ever dealt with knee cave during initiation of the second pull? If so, how did you manage to solve this problem (since pauses during the second pull/bands around the knees are out of question I suppose)? Thanks!

@CatalystAthletics

4 жыл бұрын

Same principles - Reduce the movement to the part you need to focus on/strengthen. Do segment deadlifts with pauses immediately off the floor, at the knee, and mid-thigh, holding 3 seconds each and actively maintaining tension throughout the legs and hips to maintain the leg orientation you want. In other words, strengthen that position/motion so you can eliminate that potential factor. Often strength isn't actually the issue, though, it's slack in the system during the transition from first to second pull - that is, as the lifter decides to accelerate for the second pull, he/she actually relaxes somewhat first. That has to be trained out of them. Slow-pull snatch/clean, snatch/clean pull + snatch/clean, hang snatch/clean from below the knee, etc. all focusing on actively maintaining that tension and position as you accelerate will help.

@TheTadeass

4 жыл бұрын

@@CatalystAthletics thanks! Simple and easily incorporateable.

Thank you for this informative vid. Any suggestions for this same issue but related to the snatch? I have noticed that my knees cave on heavier loads in the jerk but interestingly I have also noticed that my left knee will cave in on the explosive transition during heavy snatches. I have attributed this to weak glutes but to be honest I’m not exactly sure what the driving factor is that causes this.

@CatalystAthletics

3 жыл бұрын

Add in more unilateral squat/hinge work to help improve hip stability, but also work on maintaining a continuous drive against the ground in the pull - movement like this usually happens during a moment of slack, which is why it happens as people transition from first to second pull - they tend to relax momentarily before accelerating.

@Carmen_Mar

3 жыл бұрын

@@CatalystAthletics Thank you for your input. It’s actually been a longstanding issue but I’m eager to address it especially now that I understand the mechanics a little better. Thanks again for responding and for all the vids you put up. You don’t know it but basically your channel is my source for remote coaching. I appreciate you Catalyst Athletics!

Simply point your toe outward instead of forward,when you lower your hip push your knee outward instead of forward,at the mean time keep your back straight.

@CatalystAthletics

4 жыл бұрын

The vast majority of lifters who have this problem already have their toes turned out and are pushing the knees out in line with the feet. The knees move inward during the change of direction in the bottom, not during the descent, and it has nothing to do with not trying to push the knees out - that's exactly what these lifters are already doing.