Purchased the Fluance RT-82 and am very happy with it. One nice feature that I don't see on other tables is the auto stop after the record is finished and has continued to turn for about 15 seconds.

Don't do it. It's a trap. Today: $300 turntable that plugs right into the back of your existing amp. 5 years later: $9,000 table with $1,500 tonearm, $2,000 cartridge, and $4,000 standalone pre-amp. Next purchase: $3,000 ultrasonic record cleaning system.

@NickP333

5 жыл бұрын

Haha! So true! Down the ol’ rabbit hole ya go...

@afborro

5 жыл бұрын

That's why I gave up vinyl ages ago. Not worth the hassle, and it doesn't sound superior .... crackles and all 😜Files don't need a cartridge, don't collect dust, can faithfully reproduce all the frequencies and stereo image without mastering tricks vinyl needs , no speed wobbles, no centring issues, all the limitations I happily live without. In my house RIP vinyl, for a good 15 years or more now. The audiophiles hanging onto relics of the past. 😁

@ericdaniel323

5 жыл бұрын

@@afborro most of my collection is digital now too, but I still enjoy playing my records. I was just joking about the depth of the vinyl rabbit hole.

@afborro

5 жыл бұрын

@@ericdaniel323 Ha, well my comment was sort of tongue in cheek also 😀 while also expressing an element of truth. IMO there is nothing inherently special about vinyl to make me even consider investing in it these days ... at all, especially versus cost.

@turiddu9

5 жыл бұрын

@@afborro There is a magic that happens at a certain level that sounds organic and human that can only be approximated by digital over $4000. Yes, a hassle, yes a nightmare just aligning your cartridge and yes, getting up every 20 minutes and Zerostatting, carbon brushing, stylus cleaning....Is it worth all the extra hassle? To some of us, yes, in fact totally so, to others, not so much. I've just invested in a Michell Gyrodec, Linn arm, Hana SL cart and a Gold Note PH-10 phonostage and in comparison to my Mytek Brooklyn Bridge, my analog front end simply sounds more unrestrained and natural. It really boils down to this, If the pleasure that the music brings you is better TO YOU, is it worth the ritual, hassle and expense? To me there's no question that it is indeed very worth it.

I think there's a point (and I think it depends on your budget) where a turntable is going to break your heart. I know if I spent $5,000 on a turntable and it revealed that most of my records sound like garbage, I'd be sad.

I like the way my Technics SL 1300 feels and sounds. I paid around $300.00 back in around 1974.

@dl1279

4 жыл бұрын

So thousands in the money of today and increasing all the time as money is devalued more and more

I got to play the Fluance RT-52 the other day. A very solid built table for the money! I believe Fluance has a top tier TT for around $500.

@keithb6717

3 жыл бұрын

Top tier? Kids, say no to drugs!

Love my Grundig PS 3500 from 1982. It's virtually identical to the Technics SL-Q3: Feat. cast aluminium chassis, butter smooth lift, beautiful pitch, direct drive - I inherited it from my grandfather. And you can get one like it online for 90 bucks... A factory new model would have to step up at least two levels, everything else would be nonsense. 🤫😍

U-Turn Orbit. Great value. Great sound. Looks cool. Nice cue-ing & etc. as Steve spoke of . And, your choice of colors and various add-ons like a lifter, a cool looking clear acrylic platter and other. Also, really good customer service, after the fact... very accomodating...

@scottyo64

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I have nothing but good things to say about UTurn, and they are made in the USA.

My choice would be a Fluance RT 81 or RT 82. Both are beautiful and sound terrific.

@2010stoof

3 жыл бұрын

If between 81 and 82 I'd go with 82. Specs and motor type and design is far superior on the reference 82-85 (same tables). Plus have upgrade path for platter if you want to later on.

I have a Hitachi HT- L 303. I've had it close to 40 years, I have replaced the cartridge on it once and the bely on it once! And it is an outstanding turntable !!!

Thank you for doing this review (and all the others). I know this is quite outside the scope of this scenario and you've probably been asked a few times already but I'd love to see you review the Schiit Sol turntable ... even though I'd likely never spend what it costs. I'm just curious as I love everything I've tried from Schiit and turntables are such a new and different thing for them.

The music hall mmf-1.3 does have a detachable head shell and anti skate, which is why i picked it over the others

I use a UTurn Orbit custom. Mine went a little over $300 with the acrylic plater and tone arm lift.

@scottyo64

4 жыл бұрын

I later added a Ortofon 2m red already had a cork mat from Klipsch.

At some price point, pretty quickly, your turntable is going to perform ( way ) better then the cutting table that created the Master LP Disc(s). Some points made in this video ( $300 ), belt drive and 90% of all LP's are a pretty good start. You have to get into LP's like those made by Sheffield Labs in the 70's where spending a whole lot more then that on a turntable makes any sense at all. Cutters creating Masters Discs today are CaCa.

@tomhound273

4 жыл бұрын

yes, lincoln had the gift - those early pressings played with tubes were hard to beat. had them all including one they gave me which had been returned when i stopped by. great stuff. tubes and the straight wire - today a by=gone concept. still have my vinyl up on shelves in the closet - just got a Marantz int amp and going to get a fluance table. my raga 3 is long gone and my son has my Marantz 8b.

I love my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, I paid around $300 for it a few years back. So far I haven’t been itching to upgrade, I’m still very happy with it.

@mdtaylor2274

4 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear. Would you recommend it for a first turntable for an entry level player?

@koobs4549

4 жыл бұрын

Mick Taylor I definitely would, it is my 1st turntable & I’m still happy with it. Checkout the Turntable Labs website, they have some great videos on how to set it up. I wouldn’t consider it entry level but again, it was my 1st & I had no problems setting it up with no prior experience. I’m still very happy with it & have no plans to upgrade at this point.

@printzapper

3 жыл бұрын

I too have the Debut, have upgraded to a acrylate platter and have bought another weight for mc cartridge. Platter helped immensely with static hum, the original ortofon cartridge was okay, but noticeable shortcomings became apparent when I switched to primaluna tube amp and pro-ject tube phono stage.

I love my U-turn table Orbit .. I got the green colored one with the grados black cartridge and cork mat.. .

I have a Linn Axis turntable with Alphason Opal tonearm and A&R P77 cartridge. I run it on a Marantz 2230 and a pair of vintage Mission 720 speakers. It's a great sounding system for a low budget.

I bought a Thorens TD-126B Mk II in 1979, all the turntable has needed was replacement belts. Originally I had a JH Formula 4 arm on it sounded beautiful but it was a pain in the neck to keep it balanced and you had to change the oil every six months or so. I replaced the JH arm with an SME 3009 Series 2 Improved, a lot less messing around. Was using a Signet TK7e with the TKN3 stylus, but I can’t find a good replacement stylus ( only replacement stylus I can find is the TKN22, a bonded elliptical). So I’m on a quest for a new cartridge that, hopefully, sounds as good as the Signet.

I have a simple Pro Ject 'Essential II', then for a short time the 2m-red was 70 €, I took advantage and I really do not regret, .. ,,, musically!

@batsonelectronics

5 жыл бұрын

I have the same Cart on a 80's Onkyo belt table I fixed up. Great sound and rock solid speed after I did some modifying. ( EE ) I have original pressing of Chicago transit authority and the first 4 Chicago albums. As well as Pink Floyd and of all things , Flip Wilson. Also a few Monkee's originals. I have all but Flip on CD as well. The oldest cd's are not bad but the newer Chicago cd's are much more compressed sounding and the horns don't blare out like on the records. I am a sucker for those horns. I have Klipsch speakers and the Klipsch horns just sound so good. I prefer the actual speakers to my HD595 cans. It isn't high end but damn it sounds so good. I have a rebuilt AudioSource Amp200 driving a 12" sealed sub and when the sub and the horns belt out Chicago, It fells like I am at the concert listening live. Stereo amp is an old 2001 ish Onkyo TX-DS676. If you match older good stuff together you can have great sound for cheap. I only have maybe 1000 total into everything for 2 channel audio, and a few hundred more for the whole 5.1 surround setup. ( speakers were a $1000 kit 1/2 off at x-mas for only 500 with free shipping.)

I purchased a teac tn300 table Christmas of 19 in wood grain & I love that table. It went from 3 something down to $169 clearance. No touching a belt to change speed either. Anti skate setting and gram weight setting too.

@Bermudapools1

4 жыл бұрын

Purchased same Teac TN300e table cherry finish, purchased a beefier toroidal power supply to get rid of the slight background hum and upgraded to an Ortofon Blue cart. It is not only one of the best looking tables for the money but with the power supply and cartridge upgrade, great sounding too!

Great channel Steve! if someone could help me: I’m starting in vinyl and buying my first turntable, and thought the ATLP60X would a perfect start, but i’m reading everywhere that it’s not very good…. Would you say i can tell the difference for sure that the Fluance RT82 sounds way better even with the equipment i have? Sony SSCS5 and Aiyima A07 (which is budget but good). Thanks!

Just bought the Audio Técnica and the sound is great very simple and easy to use setup took me less than 10 min

I really love my U-turn Orbit Plus with 2m blue Orofton, SQ is amazing & worth the upgrades!

After 6 years of owning a stock Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit (with Ortofon 2M Red), I recently connected a Goldring G1042 and Schiit Mani to it. Why didn't I do that sooner? It's like a complete life-changing makeover for it.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

5 жыл бұрын

Ever check out Ian in Singapore he does a lot of Goldring reviews and likes that japanese brand. Very animated and funny guy the tour of the "stereo mall" had a lot of wow factor...

@mrpositronia

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-np3zk Of course. HiViNewsChannel :)

Few years ago I was curious if I'd wanted to play records again, so bought an Onkyo CP1050 with Music Hall PA1.2 at a bargain price. The combo was enjoyable and decided I was to take the plunge after two or so years with a more expensive combo. Got a great deal on a Clearaudio Concept MC and Lehmannaudio Decade and never looked back. For somebody to check out vinyl the $300 price bracket is a good one, since these tables (read cartridges) don't destroy your records.

@batsonelectronics

5 жыл бұрын

I got the Onkyo CP1008a, did some mods to make the speed even more accurate and added a Red Cart. Very good table for around $175 all total several years ago. Just took some electronics know how. I have old original pressings of Chicago and The Monkees and 1 Pink Floyd and 1 RUSH.

@joshmalcom89

Жыл бұрын

Drop+audio technica carbon vta 399 USD

Direct Drives use to be tables that were available in many styles and price range but are very small in choice now ....

I like the mmf 1.3 because the 78 rpm and the pitch with save feature

Someone needs to check out the RT 80, same as RT 81 but just black in color with the AT-81 cartridge and much cheaper and equally well build. I replaced that with the Shure using the money saved and never regret the choice over RT-81 or RT-82. I also purchased a second hand Technics liner tracking with a AT cartridge in it. I have an old ortofon with T4P mount, just needs to replace the stylus with an OM series one. That should works pretty well. The last one I have was an old Kenwood DD quartz lock that I put a Grado Black on as reference. All performs well and provide the different platforms for me to play with - one S tone arm, one straight and one linear.

@2010stoof

3 жыл бұрын

Between rt80/81/82 I'd go with the 82. The reference 82-85 tables have the best motor that calibrated la itself 500x a second. Great wow and flutter specs for a new turntable. Many forget the old technics that spec out at .03% were back then. Most likely either from sitting or from use most likely won't spec out to that now. .07% is really low for any of the tables 82-85 and usually have to spend a whole lot more to get that kind of wow and flutter rating.

Great looking tables. Have you seen the table I'm building? Kind of has the same finish as the brown one. That looks really cool.

Hi Steve, I'm curious about your thoughts on something I recently learned from a very close friend. He's a semi retired, bass musician for many big names and on Broadway. I'm prefacing my question with this info for credibility purposes only. He's done so much studio recording on records back in analog days, and on CDs(digital). When I asked his thoughts on which is better, his response was " since all vinyl today is really recorded digitally I (meaning me) may as well just buy CDs." He still buys vinyl because as he put it, "but we are old school so I like nothing better than putting a record on a turntable. Your thoughts?

@johnholmes912

2 жыл бұрын

tere are plenty of all-analogue recording studios

I love my new VPI Cliffwood---sounds great and very solid.

@scottyo64

4 жыл бұрын

As well it should.......

@maineblackbear2414

3 жыл бұрын

I have the AT and the speed stability AND accuracy is amazing on it!

I don't know - the high wow & flutter on most lower end belt drives is so audible (wow mainly) even on a $500 Systemdek IIX w/RB300 arm I had for years is maddening on certain types of mustc...yes an outboard power supply may help but they aren't cheap either

I think I would go with AT LPW40WN .It has carbon tonearm, switch for speeds, the motor recognize the speed so it can autoadjust it..and in another video it says it has more soundstage than project debut carbon ,which is more expensive and it hasnt speed switch and you have to manually move the band for speed.Also this audiotechnica has a great cartridge with replaceable stylus.

@maineblackbear2414

3 жыл бұрын

I love mine...speed stability and accuracy are amazing on it!!

For $300 I would prefer to find a well looked after second hand turntable. I picked up a Technics SL7 for $150 and it is superb. You’ve got to know what to look out for though.

They're all nice turntables, but you can also get a lot of value from a used TT. I have a 39 yr old Harmon Kardon HK 720 with a Signet cartridge and a Ortofon 2M Red. The sound is great and this gear will probably get handed down in my will. You only pay for quality once, even if it's older.

Very happy with the Teac p9 that i bought in 1983. Yes direct drive very reliable and great sounding. Ps, have had belt drive before but it's not for me...

Very good explanatory video, Steve. However, I believe that the topic of a motor turntable's speeds, 33 1/3, 45 rpm, it's accuracy should be also considered be very important. The consideration of speed, from my opinion, is not mentioned, and measured much on vinyl. Why should the measurement of the motor, and/or pulleys, gears, not be considered? Perhaps it is not very important since these speeds, if not very exact, do not really matter to the result of listening to the music from a turntable. Furthermore, I understand that speed may not much affect most music reproduced from a record; since there is a lengthy span of time of an entire minute as the recording is revolving, but there is a possibility that small, rare persons can hear the difference. Why not also have the accuracy of a turntable's speed be considered? There must be a bit of importance of the accuracy of speed; mostly my opinion.

Check out the Monoprice Monolith for less than $200. Its basically the same turntable Elac sells as their basic model for $500.

@andrew-xr1de

5 жыл бұрын

That is a dam good looking table for the price! Thanks!

A platter that if you hit it does not ring like a gong. A motor that is monitored for speed and separated from the platter a bit. Antiskate that is accurate. Some of those don't make the cut for me.

I have a numark tt250 usb,and it’s great ,based on a technics,about 300 quid ,it does what’s needed ,cheers

How about the Denon DP300F?

@Djek1957

5 жыл бұрын

He thinks it feels flimsy and has a plastic headshell. He is not well informed !

Bluetooth is vital to me. Send signal to TV, then HDMI'd to amp. No cables. TT sits on table next to couch with LPs on adjacent shelf. Yep. May have to address ADC, but for now, loving it.

@HarakiriRock

2 жыл бұрын

Bluetooth may be convenient in some cases, but causes big degradation in audio quality. Connecting a simple pair of RCA cables is not hard and would make it sound much better.

I’m surprised that you didn’t include the AT LP120. It’s the most popular direct drive TT out there for a reason. I had a 120 for over 2 1/2 years before I upgraded to the 140. It’s a great TT, and if I didn’t choose to upgrade to the 140, I would still be happy in using it. So is it because that you don’t like direct drive TT’s that you didn’t include the 120? It’s certainly not that it doesn’t fit your criteria-upgradable cartridge, low motor noise (I never had any rumble with mine), steady speed with a strobe light included, among other things. And in many places, it’s still under $300. I am NOT trying to start the whole old, tired debate of which is better, belt or direct drive, but I AM bringing it up for fair play reasons. It deserves to be on your list.

@polarbear3427

2 жыл бұрын

As is the Reloop rp4000 or even better rt7000

Steve, what is the best sounding fully automatic turntable that you’ve heard?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

5 жыл бұрын

ghiagoo - War Robots Thorens makes of you and I reviewed one. Google my name and Thorens and you’ll find it

@ghiagoo

5 жыл бұрын

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac . Thanks. Just got back into audio, in December. Went for vintage stuff. Got a Thorens TD 125 Mk II which is great of course, but realized I missed the fully automatic my parents had. I started grinding a deeper groove into the end of a record , when I stepped away to get something to eat. Had to wipe powder off the the record and the stylus.

Hm... So, i would recommend the Fluance Turntable! I am an Austrian Aufiophile, and i should prefer the Project Recordplayer over the Other Products, but as an educated Carpenter, i must say, the Fluance is the best built Gear in this Ranking, and i think it is also the technical most sophisticated Product. Its also the heaviest Turntable in this comparison. . And Mass always counts when it comes to Soundquality and how silent a Turntable runs.

I'm thinking of buying a Pro-Ject RPM 1 Carbon as a second turntable to use in another room and I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on these..??

@vinyl1Earthlink

5 жыл бұрын

You might want to check out the threads in AudioKarma where people who bought this turntable had various problems. The biggest was a noisy motor, but there was also a guy who got a warped platter. If you do buy a Pro-Ject, you should buy from a local dealer who will help you if you have a problem.

@deegz

5 жыл бұрын

I purchased a Pro Ject debut carbon about 3 years ago. A little different than the model your asking about but I upgraded the platter and installed an Ortofon 2m Red and it’s been a pleasure listening through my setup. Haven’t had any issues at all. Cheers

@Jules-lw5tl

5 жыл бұрын

@@vinyl1Earthlink I'd heard of problems with the Debut Carbon and the need for removing a bolt or screw that caused some noise issues but I thought that had been fixed with the RPM 1 Carbon (but maybe I'm wrong) problem is there isn't a dealer for any audio gear anywhere close to me so I need to buy it online. Thanks for the advice I will do some more research........ Cheers.

@Jules-lw5tl

5 жыл бұрын

@@deegz That's good to hear, both the Debut and RPM 1 are over $500 here in Australia so they are both at the limit of my budget for now, I already have a Technics SL120 but it's too wide to fit in the cabinet for the room I'm using plus the strobe light has blown and the speed is outta whack... Thanks for the reply, Cheers Mate.............

@vinyl1Earthlink

5 жыл бұрын

@@deegz - Yes, the vast majority of Pro-Jects do work correctly. Many owners are completely satisfied. The problem is when you buy one online, and it turns out to be a lemon, then you've got a problem

i paid 80 box for a realistic lab 400 in a AA+ condition that thing is a barn Ferrari, 30 y and it look like its fresh out the box

Excellent videos. Question: Why are some Turntables called, "DJ Turntables"?

@billwillard9410

5 жыл бұрын

Claude C DJ (disc jockey) turntables were more robust models that were fully manual (there were a lot if semiautomatic/ fully automatic ones at one time) that would allow you to move the record in reverse to cue the song up to where it started or so it matched the beat of the song that currently playing. They had to get to proper speed quickly, allowed quick stops for changing records, and had a speed control. A cartridge that allowed back cueing (having the stylus on the record while moving the record backwards) as well as the fabulous scratching effect without damaging the stylus or cartridge was also necessary. The Technics, Stanton and Numark direct drive TT’s were very popular. Many people ended up using these as their home tables.

@amaziahofjudah9722

5 жыл бұрын

@Claude C All of what he said @Bill Willard ​ and they're mostly powered by direct drive motors, because they allow for cueing, while most hifi turntables today use a belt drive motor. belt drive transmits fewer vibrations and therefore creates a lower noise floor, a direct drive motor is going to be more consistent in its speed, quicker in getting to that speed, and you can back cue with them, but they are a bit louder. you could theoretically dj with any turntable, although one with direct drive would make the most sense, speed controls, and easily swappable cartridges are a plus, but 'dj turntable' is just a marketing term and has no clearly defined meaning.

@claudec2588

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to Bill and Amaziah for clarifying that question.

@IliyaOsnovikov

4 жыл бұрын

@@amaziahofjudah9722 All old Technics direct drive turntables are quieter than their belt driven siblings. Most of DDs have noise at minus 78 dB and BDs - only minus 70 dB.

@amaziahofjudah9722

4 жыл бұрын

@@IliyaOsnovikov Sure, Technics made and makes some fantastic direct drive turntables and in any case, the differences between a good Technics' direct drive and a good belt drive are going to be minute when it comes to the noise they emit. But Technics never markets their turntables as "DJ turntables' they sell their DDs labeled as HiFi. Turntables that are actively marketed as such (and as explained in my previous comment, deceptively so) shouldn't be compared to a Technics turntable, although some resellers pop that label on there when selling them, seemingly believing their customers to be not very educated when buying their turntable.

I would get the Monoprice Monolith, 179.00 right now, looks great!

@NoMoreRadioMyths

5 жыл бұрын

I got one. Nice.

@mdd47

4 жыл бұрын

I have this table, I like it a lot. It's pretty much the same thing as the Fluances and the entry-level ELAC.

I learned near half a century ago with an original AR turntable - machines handle the important movement of the arm/ stylus far better than I do. full auto 'table for me every time, and some good ones are avail. for $300. ps - IF cash is an issue. stick with CD's - they cost the same for the disc, and CD's are far more durable. plus, less than $50. gets a DVD player at any big box store. IF $ is a factor, gotta be CD's. and I still play my mid -70's Pioneer 117 but just a couple times a month.

Hey Steve, thanks so much for the video! I Wanted to see if you could help me with a new stylist. I have a Technics SL5300 and use a JC3 jr from Parasound for the phono preamp. I use a Ortofon 2M Bronze and a Nagaoka MP200. I want to try a MC cartridge, any suggestions? Thanks, Robert

@JoeOrber

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of haircut do you want?

I love this...!! too many high end and low end ones on here this is in the middle

YES! I went through a lower end Project and UTurn TTs. The tone arms are so thin and cheap. Fluance I think puts out the best and most bang for your buck!

@keithb6717

3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing the prices possible when you manufacture in a country that has slavery!

@tharveytucker1

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithb6717 what? Fluance is a Canadian company.

@keithb6717

3 жыл бұрын

@@tharveytucker1 Correct! Except their turntables are MADE in China! www.fluance.com/review/product/view/id/31569/

I need a semi auto... I have had other TT's, but it just drove me nuts hearing that needle hit the label. It honestly stressed me out, as I would find myself waiting to jump up to play rescue the cartridge, it made listening to vinyl a stressful endeavor. So, I recently bought the Denon DP-400, it is semi semi-auto and $499. The tone arm lifts at the end, and that is it, it just lifts. You have to get up and move it and turn off the table. It has two shortfalls, no cover, so I built one. And the feet do not level, so I had to shim. It does have a detachable head shell and other manufacturers shells will work. So far, I am happy with mine. Running the Denon DL-160 cartridge. And yes, I spent time setting it up properly. What else I like is that I can use my own audio cables and my own phono preamp, along with a proper ground. It sounds great to my ears. I wish these manufacturers would at least have this feature as an option, simply lift the tone arm before it hits the label. It cannot be that difficult to do and I don't see how it would interfere in the sound. I cannot hear any of that, but I can hear my needle hitting the label.

@amb3cog

5 жыл бұрын

www.needledoctor.com/The-QUP

@crazyprayingmantis5596

5 жыл бұрын

I have a fully manual table and my stylus has never hit the label. Every single record has a continuous loop run out groove so I don't know why your stylus was hitting the label because it's impossible.

@amb3cog

5 жыл бұрын

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 It might be HIGHLY unlikely, but certainly not impossible. NOTHING is impossible!!! That's one of the few things I'm positive of in this crazy world.

@michaelwright1602

5 жыл бұрын

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 You got me, maybe it was the TT... I would not have bothered posting the above if the above did not happen. Used to drive me nuts.

@StephaneVorstellung

5 жыл бұрын

If a record is made right that doesn't happen. Of about 1,200 LPs I've got two with this problem: Minutemen "The Punchline" (SST), Bela Bartok- Contrasts for Violin and Piano (Dover). On both, the labels aren't affixed correctly. They over lap the run-out groove's locking point so rather than looping as it should, the needle hops on to the label and goes for noisy panic-inducing ride.

So many great turntables That won't break the bank And still get a decent turntable that won't harm your records

I succumbed to the vinyl craze some years ago, not knowing much nor doing proper research and now I'm stuck with a bunch of nice 'audiophile' records which will never ever be fully appreciated with my Denon turntable (DP300) and Sharp CP9850 home stereo speakers.... Plus I'm broke AF to upgrade now....

I actually think the “brown” one looks the best!

@NoMoreRadioMyths

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like plastic fake wood, which is what it is. Black would look better.

@TakeTheVeilESP

5 жыл бұрын

@@NoMoreRadioMyths it's solid wood actually, so you're wrong.

@NoMoreRadioMyths

5 жыл бұрын

@@TakeTheVeilESP I stand corrected. Its not plastic but MDF, which is not solid wood. Construction Material Plinth: MDF

@TakeTheVeilESP

5 жыл бұрын

Oooh MDF, even better.

Steve, we wanted to hear what "he" had to say!

I own 2 H.K .turntables from the ( Mid 80s ) almost all Metal ..Excellient sound vintage ones to keep an eye on aside from H.K. are Yamahas.. Kenwoods.. the Rock) JVC Q series.

“They all play records.” 😄

@lalatv900

5 жыл бұрын

isn't your profile pic , the guy who thought the comet was a spaceship for the soul? if not, sorry , if so haha

@gdoodle

5 жыл бұрын

Donald Johnson “Heaven’s Gate”. Climb aboard!

@andrewdoan1293

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Having said that the Yugo will take you from point A to point B as the Lexus or the Maserati but....please fill in the blank.

@MultiTrumpetman

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdoan1293 haha Yugo legend

There is a typo in Ty's article, second paragraph "One of the first questions to ask is much to spend on a turntable. " missing How, as in "One of the first questions to ask is how much to spend on a turntable. "

@tomcollens4621

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, come on.... A typo?!

@JohnDoe-np3zk

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomcollens4621 I feel a great shift in the cosmos

@HareDeLune

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, how low the once great have fallen. It used to be a mark of journalistic pride to use correct English, grammar, and punctuation. Journalists would applaud anyone who pointed out a typo in their work, so that it could be corrected. They took pride in their work like any good craftsman. Now, we are reduced to "i like ur turntabl. Do u think mine sounds good. ill check out there turntbl to." These kinds of low-brow, knuckle-dragging attempts at communication are enough to make a grown man cry, I tell ya! The lackadaisical replies to the OP show that things will not be improving anytime soon, unfortunately.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

5 жыл бұрын

@@HareDeLune too much fluoride. Where I live the City has been proudly poisoning the masses with aluminum plant waste (how interesting the aluminum plant was here too!) since 1945! They fought like hell against pulling that out because everybody knows it prevents cavities (along with dropping your IQ)

@HareDeLune

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-np3zk Just one source out of many, unfortunately. Do you know any school teachers? If so, ask them about the state of education in this country, if you dare...

I have the fluance

Can you please make a CD player review to

@jogmas12

5 жыл бұрын

Maxiinti CD player? No one plays cds anymore

@Maxiinti

5 жыл бұрын

jogmas12 Why not use both worlds

@michaelb9664

5 жыл бұрын

jogmas12 Yes people do still play CDs on CD Players.

@jogmas12

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Brannighan come on now. CD is old technology. Vinyl is where the future is headed.

@michaelb9664

5 жыл бұрын

jogmas12 You are kidding aren’t you? Vinyl is considerably older than CD. Personally I enjoy both formats.

Don’t dis the Technics Steve!

Dual 1219

I was looking at rt82 for about a year and finally wanted to pull the trigger Problem is all 82,83,84 out of stock. Did some quick math. With the $120 acrylic platter and the $250 ortophone blue, $500 isn't bad. Plus it's in stock haha. So it's supposed to arrive today. :-) By all means $500, to me is no easy amount to spend, and if it's out of your range the rt-82 is the same table with different platter and cart. Same table though and can always upgrade it later. Great deal at 299. But since rt-85 was only one left so I went with it. Wow and flutter specs on the 82-85 are awesome and punch above their price point among other tables. And the servo motor is really nice But the rt-82,83,84,85 have great specs way above the price point at .07% wow and flutter. And .13% speed variation on 82,83,84 and .1% on 85 (because of acrylic platter) are great too. And if you get the acrylic platter later on any other 82-84 the speed variation will lower to the 85's .1%

The 1 thing I look for in a turntable? Is the quality of the sound it produces PERIOD

What ? Strange ..its all about the sound it gives ....or am I wrong !

Started with an AT-LP240, currently sated with a Rega Planar 6 Ania. This sickness moves fast.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

5 жыл бұрын

Ania Knees?

I know you make your money by reviewing and selling new products, but as far as the table itself goes would you say there is a reason to change decks from a 70s-80s mid-end technics/sony/similar dd turntable to something like one of these (under 500 dollars)? From what I've seen of the newer tables at more modest price ranges, the build and component quality seems quite poor using low quality chinese sourced components.

I'd love a video like this done on CD players/changers. The selection is either pretty thin below the two hundred dollar range, or I just haven't looked in the right places. Being honest tho, if I wasn't using a PS4 (which doesn't play CDs) for my every day source unit? I might just being using a Blu Ray player to play CDs instead... So maybe that's why inexpensive CD players just don't seem to exist.

@HareDeLune

5 жыл бұрын

I was using a PS3 for my front end. I really liked the ability to upsample to 192Khz. with custom dithering. The sound quality was quite respectable to me, especially when I got brave (some might say crazy) enough to experiment with modifications to reduce and remove vibration & resonance. I believe these consoles have an untapped potential for great sound if you're willing and able to go to extremes with modification. I have read that they kept the audio upsampling feature in the PS4. Do you know about, or use that feature yourself? There is also an underground audiophile cult around the Playstation 1, model SCPH-1001 (SCPH-1002 in Europe) which had an unbelieveably good DAC built in, and RCA outputs for the audio signal. Check out this review on Six Moons: 6moons.com/audioreviews/leben2/system.html Also, listen to this video over any good audio system to get a taste: m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJqHxc9wdNS7hZM.html

@russellborrego1689

5 жыл бұрын

@@HareDeLune, wow! Thank you! I'd considered getting a used PS3 for CD playing purposes, but assumed a gaming console would probably fall in line with using a DVD or Blu Ray player in terms of quality. Plus the lack of display isn't a big deal, and certainly not a negative... But I saw the idea of having one to be a pleasant addition. I actually don't know anything about audio upsampling on the PS4, once I discovered that it didn't play CDs? I didn't bother to dig any deeper.

@HareDeLune

5 жыл бұрын

@@russellborrego1689 How deep do you want to go? Being a rabbit myself, I've been pretty far down the rabbit hole. : ) Would be glad to offer help and advice on any aspect of using Playstation Consoles as front end.

@russellborrego1689

5 жыл бұрын

@@HareDeLune, how do you feel a stock PS3 compares to the onkyo DXC390? Or better yet, what should *I* look for between the two audio performance-wise? Out of the few CD players I've looked at, the Onkyo is the front runner as far as general online opinion. I actually have a old PS3 at our camper, and I could always just buy a Blu Ray player to replace it. Until you weighed in, I didnt spend any time at all with the idea of it being a viable audio source. Modifications are probably out of the question, electronics has never been my forte.

@HareDeLune

5 жыл бұрын

@@russellborrego1689 Not being in the least familiar with the Onkyo, I looked it up briefly. I see that it is a multi-disc changer. I can tell you this: Single disc players always sound better than multi-disc, as a rule of thumb. Also, there are always exceptions to everything. The PS3 shouldn't sound anywhere near as good as it does, but here we are. I think you should try finding those upsampling settings on your PS4 first, then play some well-encoded, high bit-rate mp3 files through it to get a feel for what's possible. The only thing that will cost you is some time and effort. As for modifications to the PS3, they were all physical modifications designed to reduce vibration & resonance, and to help the unit run cooler. Look here for the first lines of defence: hubpages.com/games-hobbies/3-tips-for-a-cooler-running-and-greener-ps3-system-models-cecha01-cechg01- This is only information on keeping them running cooler, nothing to do with vibration. One step at a time. Heat is the great killer of all electronics, and the PS3 runs like an oven. I have literally used it as a space heater for small rooms. The above information is vital for longevity. Also, if you have an original "phat" PS3, with the model number CECHA01, give it to me!! : D Seriously, if you have that model, you should know that it will play SACD's as well as Blu-ray discs. Here is a little-known website which is dedicated to that: www.ps3sacd.com Hope you enjoy!

Its either the platter or the cartridge you cant upgrade

Surprised at the comments here. Number one thing I look for in a turntable is speed stability.

@2010stoof

3 жыл бұрын

After shopping I found the fluance servo motor to be the best for now and longevity. Checks speed like 500x a second or something. But servo motors are quiet and powerful and have a very long life expectancy

Theres three types of people. Those that have the money, those who dont, and those that won't spend the money. Sub $200 dollar turn tables have really come a long way. With the Crossley C6 leading the way at 129.99 at Wally world and the Heyday at Target. Along with about 5 more available on Amazon. I dont think $300 is the "sweetspot". I think $150 is. Now dont get me wrong. The quality jump from 150 to 300 would be night and day. Kind of like the jump from 300 to 1000 would be as well. These lower priced units are ultimately be what keeps Vynil going. They are the starting point. And the C6 with all its flaws, got Andrew Robinson to admit. Crossley doesnt suck!

the U-Turn Orbit Plus is the best of those in the video.

It's 2021 and we demand fully automatic, easily swapped out cartridges, all 3 speeds and built in preamp at the very least...all under $300 dollars.

Alternatively, spend half as much on pretty much any Japanese turntable from c.1980 and a new belt.

@tifosinh

5 жыл бұрын

Umm... Welcome to 2019. Most vintage Japanese tables are fetching many multiples of $300.

@thisisnev

5 жыл бұрын

@@tifosinh Not from where I'm standing - in the UK, at least, there are still quite a few going at auction for under £100. Let the bedroom DJs pay over the odds for low-end Technics or Pioneer decks because of the name - look at the humble Aiwas, Akais, Hitachis, Kenwoods or Toshibas. They don't get the love, but they're all of a kind.

@VIDSTORAGE

5 жыл бұрын

Getting a motor for a belt drive is not easy or not available....A used motor will have terrible speed fluctuation.. Over 10 years ago I bought a old used Technics belt drive and I could not listen to it any more after about a month..I called Technics and any one I could find about a motor,,,,no luck and that was 11 years ago .. The direct drives seem to last much longer and with better speed control...

@IliyaOsnovikov

4 жыл бұрын

And it will be twice better too.

@IliyaOsnovikov

4 жыл бұрын

@@VIDSTORAGE Most likely all you needed to do was to clean that motor inside and lubricate it's bearings. But you are right the direct drives do last longer and require less maintenance.

Maybe it's me, but my top priority is THE SOUND!!!

Not relevent in the USA, manufacturers and models different. In 40 years of hearing turntables, Pioneer sounds the best to me regardless of price. Just be sure it comes with a cartridge and has a built in preamp.

He doesn't know if you can still buy CD "players" ?

@3lueant347

5 жыл бұрын

I bought two CD players in the last 12 months. Cambridge transport with a Pro Ject S2 DAC and Discontinued Emotiva ERC 3 (decodes HDCDs)

@JessHull

5 жыл бұрын

@@3lueant347 Exactly! I thought it funny when he said that as I've been looking into adding a CD transport to my system. Great purchase though, I bet it sounds amazing!

Next a good cassette deck 🤪

I started with a $475 Rega RP1 and 7 months later I bought a nearly $4,000 turntable. Be careful, folks. It's an addiction.

@onemorething100

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a tremendous difference In sound between 2? Where you still happy with your purchase?

@raygu1818

2 жыл бұрын

Why though when you could have just bought the Rega 3 for just under 1000 dollars ? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Id like to say im an audiophile, but its probably not true. I cant afford it. dont get me wrong. i got some nice quality stuff. but i want to say this. it pretty much has not cost me a dime....i buy amps, tape decks, turntables ect. try them out, and keep whats best looking/sounding. i then clean up what i dont want, fix, restore, ect and sell for a profit. and then theres the records. i buy large collectiond locally. sort through them, keep what i want to hear. clean up and sell what i dont want. again for a profit. and after 20 or more years of doing this. I enjoy a practically free hobby and have some damn fine machines and some damn good vinyl....

I stepped up just a little and got the Fluance RT-85. It’s worth the extra 200. But if the budget does not permit, anyone of your 5 are great.

@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube

3 жыл бұрын

The lack of color options is what has kept new from picking one up.

@Skrenja

3 ай бұрын

I wish Fluance made an 85 without the exposed belt. I think exposed belts look horrible.

spend your 300 sods on a turntable that has a clear upgrade path,.... makes like project are good at it anti-skate is a must

"what's important" proceeds to list everything except sound quality. Lol you guys crack me up.

@ModernClassic

5 жыл бұрын

99% of the sound quality of a turntable comes from the cartridge. If you don't like how a $300 turntable sounds, just put a better cartridge on it and you'll have 95% of the sound quality of a turntable that's 10 times the price. They do mention noise and speed consistency, which are really the only important sound quality considerations in turntables at this level.

@patterrana1581

3 жыл бұрын

@@ModernClassic I've been having a internal battle over that, got the RT-81 2 years ago for Christmas, and will hopefully get a new cart (at-vm95ml) for a Christmas present, I keep looking at tables in the $1k-$2k range and wonder would it really be worth it? My 81 is dead solid on both speeds, and has zero rumble whatsoever, and has the nice feature of cue arm stop, stop at end of record, and a switch to change speeds as I play 45 just as mush as 33.

Every part of my setup is perfect , except my ears .

For 300$ it isbetter to get classic vintage turntable like thorens TD160, Walker cj 55,lenco L75, rega p3.. Bearing accuracy ,the mechanical structure .. A similar sound quality of the above example require to spend more 1000$ today....

Put 90% of ur hard earned $$ into the 👉🏽Cartridge (an its set-up) when choosing a T. table 🔝💯🎶🎶#MusicIsTheBest🎼🔊

Saw the Fluance Rt82 at a coffee shop. It looked incredibly well built, with a nice tonearm. There are always good vintage tables being sold on Craigslist. 70s sony, Pioneer, Sansui, etc., are easy to repair. I own 2 Sony ps-x6, ps-x5. Built like tanks.

@Zockopa

5 жыл бұрын

Agree,especially - but not only - in the budget class new turntables are at a (quality and comfort) loss against vintage turntables. The only advantage new turntables have is a warranty card. Regarding the PS-X6: Back then this was a upper middleclass offering,but in todays standart it is clearly way above that - and then some.

comment section is half saying good riddance to vinyl while the other half says its well worth the hassle.....funny thing is, why are all the ones saying good riddance still lingering around vinyl videos?

Oh brother

"Its not brown,its wood"😀😀😀

Rega P1 over 300 bucks I guess?

I hope I'm not being elitist but my Roksan xerxes x is so so much better than $300 TTs.I realise that affordability is very big factor. Once you've been captivated by higher end sound ;you are hooked. I started small and worked my way up and I completely understand how beginners feel.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

5 жыл бұрын

Roksan you don't have to wear that dress tonight?

For $300 anyone can easily find fully working vintage DD fully automatic TT from golden era of vinyl. And it will have 100x better sound than modern cheap TTs.

@jogmas12

4 жыл бұрын

Rastislav Ledaj there is a good reason why vintage turntables were better up to a certain price point. Read this: There is the reality of economies of scale. In the 1970's, when vinyl was THE medium for audio playback, a company like Technics, Kenwood, Sony, etc. could design and produce a audiophile quality turntable and price it reasonably. Knowing that they were going to be able to sell x1,000 units allowed them to find a balance between price and quantity. Now, even with the vinyl resurgence, the market for turntables is astoundingly smaller. The only units that are going to sell in substantial quantity are the entry level to mid-fi units. If you are going to make your money in quantity, you need to reduce your cost per unit, by using lower-end, mass-market components in order to maximize the profit. Once you start pushing the psychological barriers of dollar thresholds (like +$500 or +$1,000, +5,000) then your consumer base drops considerably. At that point (especially in the +$1,000 and beyond bracket) you are dealing with a different type of consumer who values different elements of the turntable over someone who is only willing to pay $200-300. Very often that person will appreciate and understand the engineering and craftsmanship that goes into a well put together piece of equipment. There is also the element of return on investment. Outside of materials, there is the time, energy, experience and knowledge (mostly the last two) that the company or individual creating the turntable sees as a quantifiable value. The +$1,000 buyer mentioned above is usually one, who through their own life experience, understands and appreciates what it means to have a skill set and knowledge base that isn't material, but definitely valuable. That is a lot of what is being priced into audiophile level turntables. That and the limited consumer base dictates that the turntable be priced a level of profitability that will sustain the business beyond cost expenditures. Basically I would not spend less than $1200 on modern turntable today

I just like that he used "$1000" as the high point on the price range, haha.

What Vinyl has over cd, mp3, Vinyl has Hi Fidelity !!!

Surprised to hear 50% of there experience should go to tactility. Expect more to go to sound!

@billwillard9410

5 жыл бұрын

Graham Strahle It absolutely, positively had to keep a steady speed without wavering, and hopefully a fairly accurate speed. A table that can’t do that is useless.

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It’s difficult to change a cartridge? It’s two screws and four color coded wires. Get an alignment tool (they’re not expensive), balance the tone arm, set the tracking weight and anti-skate and your done. Ten minutes tops.