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Fishing Pole Chess Trap - Concepts and Alternate Variations
The fishing pole trap is extremely dangerous and you need to know how to handle it!
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The fishing pole trap is what originally got me hooked on chess. :)
@xStayCurious
2 жыл бұрын
Same! I saw this trap years ago on a video and it got me hooked for some reason.
@AwestynJaxxxson
2 жыл бұрын
Boooo lol
@Triskelion345
2 жыл бұрын
The move pawn to h3 is literally called a hook
@wowwoawubbzy
2 жыл бұрын
@@Triskelion345 lol
Can’t wait to lose a bunch of games trying this out!
@aesaehttr
2 жыл бұрын
"Florida man" lmao reminds me of "ASP" (John Correia)
@mrchoon2010
Жыл бұрын
Set it up against a bot and play
@davidcalderwood4131
Жыл бұрын
😂
@irfanbinam6694
10 ай бұрын
I lost in competition trying this 😅
@meherunnesa4172
7 ай бұрын
😂😂
Never stop making videos, you're too good at this!
Please do something on square theory- key squares and the principals behind those concepts . I think a lot of viewers would be interested. Keep up the great content and get in contact with Levy or Eric Rosen even Chessbrahs and do a collab. I think you will find it will propel the channel to even further heights .
@aesaehttr
2 жыл бұрын
Ben Finegold has a theory...("never play F6!")
@darrylkassle361
2 жыл бұрын
@@aesaehttr ha ha
Thanks Nelson! I have seen other videos on the fishing pole trap but never heard such a clear explanation as in your video. I never understood how to assess the risk from either side based upon the Queen's access to the h file. Much appreciated!
Thanks for answering my questions, Nelson! Very good breakdown on when the Fishing Pole works and when it doesn’t work, which is exactly what I was struggling to figure out.
I remember playing this with other openings like four knights and blundering the knight, but the opponent still moves his knight and I checkmate him the same way.
another short instructional vid - these are my favorites. Thank you Nelson Lopez !
I was looking for an answer and now I have got it..Thnx..
The thumbnail of this vid helped me make my own fishing pole trap thumbnail:)
I teach coach to beginners and I always refer to you for study material. So good!
So the rook vid is next?👀😂
I tried the fishing pole trap today while playing the caro khan and it worked! You can take these concepts such as the fishing pole trap and use it in other openings. Same goes for the damiano trap and the legal trap too, it doesn't matter. It's not as easy with black since white is a move ahead, but if they play a slow move, bam! You take advantage of it right away and punish them
Lovely video, nice trap - will go try it out on an old unsuspecting 8-bit Fidelity chess computer! 🤣
Thanks Nelson! Accessible and concise as always!
haha waiting for a video on rooks and queens now...and maybe even the king! 😂
Any suggestions on great books for intermediate players?
This trap is what I did to break 1300 on chess.com. Most players on that level fall in that trap. Upon reaching 1400, it no longer helped me to advance so I stopped using it. I then tried a different opening, the center game Hall Variation, not on the list of top openings but I like its simplicity. Now at 1600, it's not working anymore. Guess I need to learn another opening.
@anthonyulloa4408
2 жыл бұрын
What openings were you playing to break 1,000 to 1,100?
@williamangelogonzales148
2 жыл бұрын
I use random openings when I was 1000, but I remember using a sneaky move with the bishop. If I'm white, I place my bishop in a2, just in front of the rook. That bishop is not very useful in the middle game, but after the dust settles, the opponent will forget about that hiding bishop that points directly to his castled king. When my rating started to increase, this technique no longer worked, because the opponent always trades with that hiding bishop.
@anthonyulloa4408
2 жыл бұрын
@@williamangelogonzales148 I'm going to incorporate this into my Italian game and experiment with it. Thanks for the tip
@TheGrinningSkull
2 жыл бұрын
@@williamangelogonzales148 check out the Ponziani opening. It had some deadly trap where even a 2000 was susceptible to it for games I’ve had. I’m currently on 1800. For black, I tend to play different variations of the Caro-Kann or the Indian depending on what white plays.
@williamangelogonzales148
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrinningSkull That's great! Will definitely check it out! Thanks
Well done; thank you for sharing.
you're a good chess educator. I've been critical of your trophy, but it doesn't effect that
Elegant treap
Like your vids
Thanks
At 600 it's either the fried liver attack or the fishing pole. Just lost to the fishing pole and tried a dozen videos trying to find the defense to it. And here it is, so I can now try to get to 700 w/o taking the bait until it's time and so avoid
Thank you Teacher Nelson.🤘♟
Lovely video, nice trap - will go try it out on an old unsuspecting 8-bit Fidelity chess computer!
If you are going to talk about simple things that can go wrong here at least mention that if the other knight can move to f1 via d2 that white can take on g4, and that black has to be careful with long castle because white might take on g4 with check. im pretty sure there is another major mistake that ive seen alot of people make in this opening as black, but i dont remember wich.
d4 exd4, hxg4 hxg4, Ng5 f6. Things get really tricky there
Plz do a video on the Traxler counter-attack
can you make a video about what openings should i teach first and what next? i think that will help a lot of lower ranged players to be better. have a nice day :D
@Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol
2 жыл бұрын
You should learn openings, that come off as natural for you and preferably start quickly (sutch as Scandinavian defense starts at move 1) and don't have much complicated theory (no grünfeld or ruy lopez). If I were to recommend something it would be ponziani opening for white, french defense against e4 (if you go this path definitely watch Levy's vid on the Rosmann french to avoid winawer/tarash theory) and stonewall dutch against everything else. If you feel a little more hypermodern I love openings that fiancetto the queenside bishop on the first two moves (namely Larsen's opening Owen's defense and english defence) since middlegame plans are quite clear and grabbing space on the queenside is (dare I say) more natural than with the d4 c4 openings. I actually don't recommend the london system to new players, because yes, you have survived the opening but now you need to take advantage of VERY subtle weaknesses in the middlegame. In that regard I actually think zuckerot/colle system is WAY better for new players (and more interesting for experienced ones in my opinion) because of more clear middlegame plans and (when you get experience) offers you a wide variety of sacrifice opportunities to open up an attack. I can provide you with some more opening names for new players so that you can check and see which one you like. After all, it's all about you feeling comfortable in the position, even if opening is dubious. And here is where I recommend the almighty Haloween Gambit YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
Cheers, Nelson!!!
I missed the moment when Nelson said "capture" instead of "take" in older video about this topic LOL
Thanks for another great video! 🧡Very clear explanation. Am blown away. I would like to ask if it is possible to set the Fishing Pole trap with reversed colors i.e. White traps Black with Ng5 -> ...h6 -> h4. Could you give an example where this is feasible? The engine doesn't seem to like White's Ng5.
I try these traps but get nothing but old shoes and car number plates Btw 6:06- “White has the problem of..arrrhh their just getting mated” . Lmao just sounds soo funny.
I often hear chess players say "winning". Does that just mean being in an advantageous position? If so, what do players call "mate in #"?
@yeahthisismyname5016
2 жыл бұрын
It just means they have an advantage more than like +1.5 anything under is more equal. Mate in one is just mate in one
I used the fishing pole trap concept after castling queen side as black against a white kingside castle. I used two rooks instead and it worked marvelously to disrupt his game. He lost shortly thereafter.
You should probably mention that Bf4 after Qh4 is a thing in some positions
So given the choice to bait your fishing pole with a knight or Bishop to open up the h file, they can arise out of the Spanish opening Berlin variation or a6 morphy variation. which version is higher probability? Which variation has a higher success rate for this trap to work? Baiting on g4 with N or B?
White can escape checkmate if he goes knight h2 queen h4 then rook e1 queen takes knight king f1 queen check king e2 is an escape but his position is completely ruined. Is this viable?
Once the knight blocks on g5 doesn’t f6 trap it?
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Hellooooo
I tried rhis trap on a 1000 elo engine and it really worked
I never knew how to take advantage of that h3/h6 pawn push. Maybe I'll get a chance to use it in my game. Will let you guys know.
Is it ever a good option to sacrifice a bishop or knight. The lower level attacking pieces. To open up a defensive pawn wall ? lose value, gain territory. The balance of importance swings sometimes. If you could do a strategy video, that would be great.
@nadimahmad2902
2 жыл бұрын
It only works if you ve a definitive winning position after that . Otherwise its just a fancy blunder.
2:29 they can also scape by moving the rook instead of the ♟️ don't they?
@-minushyphen1two379
2 жыл бұрын
If Re1 Queen takes knight and king is forced into the center. black has a good attack and has won back the piece
@jrviade85
2 жыл бұрын
maybe you didnt understand what I was trying to say if white moves rook to the right then queen takes kinght then king moves to the right where the rook was then queen goes up and checks but then king goes down to clear square and black queen needs to go back down if it doesnt want to be taken by the rook 😌
@jrviade85
2 жыл бұрын
if instead of going down the queen takes that pawn right below it will check the king again but then king can just keep going down, I know this is not a good idea but the point in this part of the video was that the king had no escape
Almost there to 100k please make how we make good strategy i m 1600 rated player
But what if they don't castles?
Rated 900-1000 this has happened to me so many times So glad to actually see it
:D
Lovely video, nice trap - will go try it out on an old unsuspecting 8-bit Fidelity chess computer! 🤣
Lovely video, nice trap - will go try it out on an old unsuspecting 8-bit Fidelity chess computer! 🤣
Lovely video, nice trap - will go try it out on an old unsuspecting 8-bit Fidelity chess computer! 🤣