First Water Cooled Mac Studio
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - The Drag Race of the Century
0:39 - GCore!
0:51 - LTT Intro
1:01 - Weird Fans?
2:11 - Internal Cooling Plan
4:01 - Heatsink Destruction
6:03 - External Cooling Plan
8:20 - Finding PSU Polarity
9:16 - Cooling Assembly
12:40 - Filling the Loop feat. Problems
14:15 - Filling the Loop feat. It Working
15:05 - Linus Reaction & Results
16:42 - Manscaped!
17:17 - Outro
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Whoever designed the cooler mechanism so that it's (almost) compatible with the Threadripper mounting mechanism is getting the boot.
@ivnaes1094
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHA
@guscichoski
Жыл бұрын
😭
@AMan-xz7tx
Жыл бұрын
the COs at apple are gonna fire their entire engineering team ._.
@moldyshishkabob
Жыл бұрын
Apple ran so far away from Intel that they accidentally ran into AMD
@zeelux55
Жыл бұрын
@@moldyshishkabob good one😂
Alex being equal parts relieved and angry that the Mac doesn't care about having no fans was quality content.
@birne_
Жыл бұрын
my theory is that it is another "screw you" from apple, because "you weren't supposed to disassemble it in the first place" and then they make you deal with the consequences
@ShasLaMontyr
Жыл бұрын
@@birne_ seems a lot of confidence that the part won't break even for Apple, as unplugging it won't be the only way it breaks.
@chiefdenis
Жыл бұрын
The m1s were designed to work without fans though
@ShasLaMontyr
Жыл бұрын
@@chiefdenis I mean good to know it won't overheat and break then, but it does mean performance will be throttled with no notification of why should the fans stop working.
@gabriellundmark
Жыл бұрын
@@birne_ far more likely is that it just throttles to not overheat
Nick: "This is dumb in all the right ways..." Alex: "Thank you! That's what I was going for..." "Sketchy cooling solutions with Alex" will always be an all-time favorite of mine, around here. ^_^
@computernaut
Жыл бұрын
It really wouldn't be an LTT cooling video without Alex!
This video was hilarious from start to finish. Props not only to Alex but a lot of kudos to the editors for the immaculate timing!
Alex inviting his boss in to show him what he spent a week working on at the end of every video is a vibe
@poipoi300
Жыл бұрын
probably more like 2 or 4 lol
@davidandrew7314
Жыл бұрын
It's a vibe? How? What's the vibe exactly?
@Oilcancap
Жыл бұрын
@@davidandrew7314 The vibe is: Dude look at what I made you spend money on LOL.
@vi0cs
Жыл бұрын
@@poipoi300 they did say day 5.
@poipoi300
Жыл бұрын
@@vi0cs Research, modeling, experimenting, logistics. When it's "Day one" with the camera crew, it's not day one.
As a machinist, I would have done a similar hold-down setup for the milling. My only comment would be maybe using bolts instead of the threaded posts & nuts for a lower profile but hey, it worked. That is all that matters!
@revlouch
Жыл бұрын
As an ex electrician I too would have used wago lever nuts on my wire job for future expand ability and maintenance.
@d3lsl0w
Жыл бұрын
@@revlouch It's not stupid if it works!
@niedas3426
Жыл бұрын
As a game publisher, I would have added an ingame store with predatory lootboxes and dark patterns to the cooling design.
@KarenTookTheKids
Жыл бұрын
As a McDonalds worker, i would have done it as shown in the video
@dustinjames1123
Жыл бұрын
@@KarenTookTheKids comment of the year lol
Water cooling things that ought not to be water cooled always lands up taking way longer than expected haha. Loving Alex's unnecessary but awesome builds!
12:08 LTT knows how to do it all over again, and get the joj done right, the first time.
@plushifoxed
Жыл бұрын
i think linus might want the joj
@xDownSetx
Жыл бұрын
It took me aback seeing that on a LTT video. Looks like one of their editors has some great taste.
That was worth it just for looks alone. Like Linus said, it’s literally a hot rod Mac Studio! Amazing work!
@kishascape
Жыл бұрын
Next up, liquid Nitrogen cooling.
@WarrenPostma
Жыл бұрын
It's a Cool Rod.
@IceMan2019
Жыл бұрын
What would be great is having the body of the mac, but a windows PC inside with the watercooling.
@rubiconnn
Жыл бұрын
@@Akkbar21 It's pointless anyways because it's a low TDP CPU which is made to sacrifice performance for a smaller computer, less heat, and cheaper parts. Then again Apple somehow managed to do a terrible job of cooling a low TDP CPU in the first place.
@moontravellerjul
Жыл бұрын
i thought so too. also, hi calum, love your vids!
23 secs later: water flows out of the apple
These videos with Alex are truly a treat, I know it takes a lot of RND to do but my god do I love it
Alex did a bang up job. Editing is through the roof.
I do love these monthly builds featuring Alex. It's like my month won't be complete without seeing him carefully -violently mutilate- handle hardware to execute a really dope concept.
@Rekhan4242
Жыл бұрын
We need a collab with Alex and JayzTwoCents on the worst PC case mod
@che-weihsieh975
Жыл бұрын
I literally wheezed out when he mentioned Tynan sharpened the chisel and continued to manhandle the heatsink away.
@grozaphy
Жыл бұрын
@@Rekhan4242 Oh god... Throw in Dennis for maximum chaos
@RafaelusOptimus
Жыл бұрын
More Alex mods and less Alex cars! (sorry, I don't care about seat massagers or the quality of the infotainement system UX desing...)
@Chris-hw4mq
Жыл бұрын
Alex brings in more engineering vibes to the video
When Linus brings out more Mac models then Apple themselves.
@tonyburzio4107
Жыл бұрын
Of course, it's very hard to be cheated buying an Apple, unlike the PC.
@ijustfelldown
Жыл бұрын
@@tonyburzio4107 what?
@maritoguionyo
Жыл бұрын
@@tonyburzio4107 what?
@EikottXD
Жыл бұрын
@@tonyburzio4107 Buying any Apple product for the prices they set is being cheated.
@hman6159
Жыл бұрын
@@EikottXD depends what products, msrp for a lot of their products is different in different countries, but I mostly agree with you
Strangely enough, mid way through the video, I was beginning to feel the YTP vibes, with the rapid fire chiseling hammer hits. And then that "do it all over again" clip from CS188 drops in. Wow. Such a KZread throwback. Thanks LMG Editors
Love that shot at 16:37! Good to see products in dramatic lighting, not just RGB colors splashed everywhere.
All Tech KZreadrs: posting Videos about the new iphone 14 Linus: I love PC
@tippitytop
Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@mrprogrammer9116
Жыл бұрын
Agree with you
@hitman627
Жыл бұрын
You are right
Alex’s commentary on the fans not throwing a warning. Which was good for them, but also very bad in general was priceless.
@jubuttib
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems odd. Meticulously control every single aspect of the computer that relates to users upgrading their experience, but don't have even a warning for fans not working?
@untitledsurfer8503
Жыл бұрын
@@jubuttibI know this is unexpected for people accustomed to PCs, but on the Apple Silicon Macs, the fans are actually turned OFF when the Mac boots, and they do NOT turn on during normal usage, they remain completely off. The fans only turn on (into idle mode! Lowest RPM) when you start to really stress the Mac Studio, and they are completely inaudible regardless of what you do with the Mac. As you stress it more, it slowly increases speed (because it doesn't need to go any faster, considering the whole SoC at maximum output with 100% CPU and 100% GPU usage only uses about 140W, I think for the Ultra model. The Max probably tops at 90W or something like that (look for the Anandtech review for the exact numbers))
@jubuttib
Жыл бұрын
@@untitledsurfer8503 Fair, though PCs can do that too, but the main issue is that they don't even check if the fans are present. They could sense whether they're there without spinning the fans even with just a 2 wire setup, let alone the 6 wire one they're using.
@Amagys
Жыл бұрын
@@untitledsurfer8503 The fans being off until needed is expected, I think the primary issue is it's not checking if fans are working and in this case--completely unplugged. Clearly though if the fans die then the SoC would be okay being passively cooled, but it's still a strange oversight from Apple.
@MrTsolar
Жыл бұрын
@@Amagys It'll just fall back to passive cooling and thermal throttle to keep from overheating. I only had the fan in my M1 MacBook Pro kick on once, and that was during a stress test. The initial file transfer from my Intel MacBook Air nearly melted the Air while not even getting the M1 above skin temperature, and it was sitting on carpet (the Air was elevated on a box).
The quality of the final product is really quite good as linus points out. Great video as usual
Creating overkill cooling solutions is my favourite content lately on this channel 😂
It should have been tested on a longer task. I believe the performance difference will be observed doing longer workloads
@aznoak
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was shocked it wasn’t a sustained video render
@LinusTechTips
Жыл бұрын
We tested it for longer after the video was shot. Performance doesn't seem to change on the Mac Studio, but after about 2.5h of full load the non-water cooled one gets pretty hot and the fans finally become audible while the water cooled one remains silent and below 60C. -AC
@XTJ7
Жыл бұрын
You could think that, but the Apple cooler is effective enough. Even after hours it won't heat up more and the fans barely run over idle. Apple clearly designed this with the option of putting a higher TDP SoC in there eventually.
@yuxuanhuang3523
Жыл бұрын
@@LinusTechTips Now I want to see a sub-zero M1 max with no fans at all 😉 a huge passive tower air cooler with thermoelectric would do
@ekim4926
Жыл бұрын
@@XTJ7 LTT seems to disagree with you there
As someone who's used Apple computers exclusively for more than a decade, I kinda like the look. It's cyberpunk enough. That said, I think it needs a square acrylic enclosure around everything, G4 cube-style
@Redbikemaster
Жыл бұрын
oh man I remember the cube!
@SamuelxShaban
Жыл бұрын
Or a glass dome, like the Harman Kardon Aura Studio 3 speaker 😍
@Manivelarino
Жыл бұрын
What if they made it a cylinder? 🤔 sort of like a trash can 😅
@33gles
Жыл бұрын
Hear me out here.... tinted acrylic in various colours....
@makuikui
Жыл бұрын
Or built the cooling system inside another Mac Studio case.
LOL I loooove the editing of this video!! Congrats to the editor!!
These are the videos that keep my sub’d. Amazing work all involved. Crazy.
Honestly, the result doesn’t really surprise me. I’ve had my M1 Ultra Studio taxing both the CPU and GPU near 100% simultaneously and they barely get above 60°C with the fans running at idle. The Mac Studio has probably the most overkill cooling solution Apple has put in a Mac (I can only assume it’s to give them headroom for potentially hotter chips down the line)
@mika2666
Жыл бұрын
Overkill cooling is good for longevity, which is great. Great to see properly cooled machines.
@kishascape
Жыл бұрын
It's more the weak smartphone grade ARM architecture that keeps it from getting hot. If you get one of the original macs witht he more powerful non-fad x86 you can really toast it, because apple cooling and ventilation is trash.
@tronam
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that with my M1 Ultra MS as well, even if I slow down the fans to their minimum 1100rpm. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an over-engineered cooling solution before.
@mrmotomoto
Жыл бұрын
@@kishascape when smartphones whoop intel, i guess?
@IshayuG
Жыл бұрын
@Uche It’s kind of amazing that ARM began life as a desktop chip, never realised its potential, became the centrepiece of all the world’s phones and now, at last, circles back home. It’s not the fastest chip in any category but it’s still very powerful yet uses almost no power. Sometimes I do wonder if Macs will gain on the competition due to electricity prices 😂
Alex nerding out on thermals and engineering is strangely satisfying to watch. It's like tech ASMR, but you actually learn something
Love the editing on this video.
Ayyy Graphcore finally getting out there. The tech seems pretty cool, would be nice to see a video on it if it’s in the scope
Hey alex can you please build a table sized heatsink and use it as a table. All passive cooling all the way.
@LinusTechTips
Жыл бұрын
We're basically the Simpsons Did It meme at this point kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2qLptiznNDag7A.html
@jono6379
Жыл бұрын
@@LinusTechTips Thats radiators. Im talking a GIANT block of aluminum milled to a heat sink profile with fans under it. No water needed.
@modarkthemauler
Жыл бұрын
@@jono6379 could work with the motherboard that has the CPU on the back of the board.
@MrTurbo_
Жыл бұрын
@@modarkthemauler or just heat pipes
@jono6379
Жыл бұрын
@@modarkthemauler Yeah. The design i have in my head in basically flat on top and all the fins underneath and then you can just screw the motherboard into the tabletop lol. I dont know how well it would work but it would be entertaining.
I love this kind of hotrodding. It's like having cutting a car's hood so a giant blower can be installed lol. I wanna do a super overclocked budget build doing this somehow.
"I'm not a machinist," Alex says as he Machines himself a water cooled Mac Studio. Amazing build!
@thomasa5619
Жыл бұрын
Machining is a trade tho They also do electrical work and they’re not electricians
i didnt expect it to work wow thank you so much bro
Linus have so many employees that are so entertaining and enjoyable to watch. It's awsome!
I am really glad Linus was encouraging and enthusiastic after all that work.
@iHasCaek
Жыл бұрын
linus loves jank. mutilating a mac product is the cherry on top.
@lendersbagels01
Жыл бұрын
@@iHasCaek I’m not disagreeing
Love these mod videos with Alex!
I legit LOVE the way that rig looks
Impressed with apple. Not for the engineering but for finally going for performance over looks
@haydenlee8332
Жыл бұрын
might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Jony Ive leaving Apple was one of the best thing it has happened for the company It always felt like Jony Ive was holding Apple back with his “Looks over Function” direction
@trashandchaos
Жыл бұрын
I mean, plenty of reasons to be impressed with the engineering here.
@yannissotiriadis1267
Жыл бұрын
@@trashandchaos Apple has all the means for engineering, especially with those pricings.
It looks cool. Thumbs up for Alex for doing this much clean work!
Very cool. I can definitely see myself editing, streaming, and gaming on a pc while this chills out in the same room.
The reservoir and pump on top make it look like a supercharged musclecar with a shaker hood cutout. Or the MR Fusion on the back of the DeLorean in back to the future. So rad.
3:43 I can hear Tim’s screams of agony already
This is one of the best things you've ever built. It looks AMAZING
This project truly reminnds me the best of the best of Top Gear's challenges, and Im talking Clarkson's TG! Top Gearing the IT in best possible way, pls do more 😁
Alex videos are so watch-able, he's like ever person's hot engineering version of Sir David Attenborough, but it's when he explains to Linus what's been broken, fixed, completely changed that the good humour kicks in. Love it
@lucasrem
Жыл бұрын
David Attenborough, sleeping with gaming PC's, yeah, that level!
@j377yb33n
Жыл бұрын
it really sells the "top gear of computing" vibe
Interesting concept, just hope I don't ever mistake it for an AC lol
Alex always comes up with janky stuff and I love it
13:13 I love how the funnel has a label that says "funnel" on it.
The delivery and cadence of this video is so good. Alex is hilarious.
This is the absolute last place I expected to see a foundation repair reference. Kudos to the editor for that one. They got the JoJ.
this looks sick. can we make external water cooling a thing? I want more mini pc's that look like coffee makers.
need more content with alex! as someone from blue collar who loves tech (i actually work in it now yay!) i really love seeing him play in the shop, and apply that "if it works" mindset to tech (especially cooling lol)
Love the random build stuff
I'm actually tempted to buy a Mac Mini so I can do the same thing to it.
I swear we need a weekly show with Alex janky cooling solutions. Write a theme song
The background music in this slays, I never knew how much I needed to hear hall of the mountain king played on an organ! LTT you got a link to this?
Nice music, I think it fits this episode well. More please
This build is supercool! You guys should call it the Mac Studio "Hot Rod" cause it looks like one of those ole school cars with the engine exposed. If I could afford it, I would build one for myself lol
I’d just like to say…I really enjoyed the editing on this one. The Bruce Lee hammer hits were amazing.
Love the futurama ref at the end it is the best type of right
This is probably the best looking exposed watercooling system I have ever seen LTT create. Just incredible!!
The editing of Alex using the power tools is perfect
I'm very glad you hotrodded it rather than doing a lesser cooler internally. Very cool project. Also, you're better at this than at reviewing things. Please do more of this kind of thing!
@dontakeshit
Жыл бұрын
Internally would have been far more challenging. This is barely even in the same form factor anymore and over double the size. Bit of a cop out
nice alex keep doing what u do!
Wow, never thought I would hear about Saunders on here. I actually visited them around 5 or 6 years ago and still have a shirt. Crazy!
This is the best video in a long time. Alex did an amazingly professional job, with no usable application. But it looks great. Please make more amazing engineering things. Just great
it's actually insane how much better LTT projects have gotten. They used to be frustratingly janky and rushed, now they're actually pretty polished
@ERROR-hf3wx
Жыл бұрын
Well this was Jake’s video. Linus’ style is the jank. Thats just how he goes.
@JackTheAwesomeKnot
Жыл бұрын
I really liked the jank vids more then these polished vids
I guess this is a new video editor.. The cuts a tighter than before. Great content. It's like a series of everything can be water cooled.
the music fits the video so much good!!!!!
It's a little unfortunate that it's only the M1 Max variants and you only tried a CPU test. M1 Ultra under combined CPU and GPU load eats like 200W and at that point water cooling might actually make some difference.
Voltage probably read 12v for a little bit due to capacitors slowly being discharged.
Sick customization 🔥🔥
I like the editing for the hammering
I would really really really like to see you guys put this motherboard in a full case with full PSU and full cooling mechanism, or even rack mount it
Absolute mad lad to watercool the Mac, this is what I expected from LTT 🌊💦💧
Anytime I encounter temp problems with the mini and the studio, (like having them in tight rackmounts) I just use a fan control software to have the fans spin up way earlier as temps ramp up.
The editing with Alex hammering is on point!
Man I wish you could send this thing back for warranty and just get the reaction of the Apple engineers when they see it
@darin7553
Жыл бұрын
That would be really funny
the Mac studio is such a simple chassis shape, would be cool to see you totally replace the aluminum with clear acrylic for full rgb goodness/annoyance. Could even have the acrylic go all the way up to enclose the res and rad and add filters :)
@chidorirasenganz
Жыл бұрын
That sounds horrible
the editing on this video is hilarious, good job editor lmao
finally! a mac that i can actually be remotely interested in! nice work!
I imagine a water cooled Mac studio might be good for a place with hot climates. I mean there was all those warning about not playing certain game systems if the temp was over a certain amount this year. So In certain climates the water cool rig might be worth it.
@generalwhine5350
Жыл бұрын
definitely a follow up video, Linus in Dubai with two Mac Studios and a camel.
The editing on this one was TIGHT. I appreciate the quick cuts that made this more engaging and a 17 minute rather than a 37 minute video
Call it a day! Nice to see things like this.
I'm so glad this Alex video went straight to violence and chaos (as always)
The cost is so high, I would not dare take it apart.
Hey Guys! I know you didn’t want to mess up by doing a acrylic part for the water cooling plate BUT it would have been awesome if a completely new transparent upper case enclosing all of the mac and water cooling system with the rgb lights! Maybe a part 2? :) Btw I’m a hardcore mac fan, and still kind of like your frankenMac ;) Keep up you good work :)
Great job Alex
Great effort!
With Apple SOCs coming from mobile phone line of thought, I would imagine the water cooling's effect would be very limited.
You should make a standard aftermarket turbo kit that includes an acrylic or glass enclosure that fits over the entire turbo kit. I realize that would ruin the thermals, but it'll look like a giant vacuum tube!
This makes me think of those vacuum tube amplifiers with the tubes sticking out of them just for looks, neat
This is absolutely Glorious!
5:10 could of used an oscillating tool to separate the two
@hendrikw4104
Жыл бұрын
*have
I wish we could see the potential of M1 family chips without the low power constraints, this looks freaking cool! I can't remember the last time I've been so pleased with my a macbook (I have the M1 Max maxed out) and I'm a developer, I will skip the M2 and probably go for M3 next year.
@Zach.O
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a developer on mac os
I love the shot of the Mac case getting hosed down in coolant as the Tormach cuts holes in it.
I love how casual alex is talking about this god damn big challange XD nice side project thouge ;D
You just gave apple idea on how to make their systems more locked down 💀
Mac Studio? ❌ Big Mac Mini? ✅
@dominicaccardo8050
Ай бұрын
mac mini mega
I love when Alex gets to go wild in the shop!
The day 3 transition with the new haircut 8:20 phenomenal.