The gradual realization on the part of people who haven’t read the books that Paul’s victory might not be a good thing is so much fun to see.

@starlord3496

2 ай бұрын

I ain't read the books but I knew he will have a Heel turn they give you hints throughout the film

@Rob_F8F

2 ай бұрын

Love that WWE term, Heel turn​@@starlord3496

@timnordstrom7383

2 ай бұрын

@@starlord3496 "A HOLY WAR IN MY NAME" idk why, but if they used the original wording, *jihad* in my name, it would somehow come across as more villainous. Curious ;D

@matthewhearn9910

2 ай бұрын

@@starlord3496 I do agree an attentive viewer can see the red flags by the end of the first movie (our first shot of Paul is an answer to Chani’s question of who the Fremen’s next oppressor will be), but many people are so well “trained” by the traditional hero narratives that even by the end of this one they’re wondering why the main characters aren’t more excited about winning.

@khatack

2 ай бұрын

That's the mainstream and false interpretation of the books. It's pretty clear that Paul's victory, which leads to the God Emperor's reign, is the thing that prevents human extinction in the long run. Trying to make it about "Paul being actually a villain" is simply dishonest. He's the hero, even if his victory is tragic and the salvation of humanity comes at an unfathomable price.

Can't use shields in the desert, they drive the worms into a killing frenzy. Keynes mentioned it in the first movie.

@DavidBusa

2 ай бұрын

Partially true. But in this case they were on a rocky hill. That means that they can't use shields because of laser weapons. It's not said in the movies, but if you use laser against shields it casuses masive nuclear reaction. That's why they yelled "No shields".

@sliceofgames8558

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidBusaahhh.

@piotrjeske4599

2 ай бұрын

Also A laser shot to a shield creates a nucklear explosion.

@brendanfalvy1281

2 ай бұрын

I thought Keynes did say that the shields draw the worm in part one… in any case, I’m pleased that the effect for the shields has a noticeable rapid vibration so that you can make the inference for yourself if you try to work it out. The details in these films are exquisite

@KayinAngel

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidBusawhich is wild they were pretty liberal with that laser when attacking Arrakeen in the last movie.

The worm remains on the surface because one of its skin folds is lifted up, and it stays on the surface as long as that fold is raised. It not only stays on the surface, but the skin fold ends up on top of it. So even if it is grabbed from the side, the worm slowly turns around.

@ForgeofAule

2 ай бұрын

And it does that because although it is very protected on the outside, its flesh underneath its plates is very sensitive and sand getting in it could hurt it very badly and even kill it.

@3Kings_Industries

2 ай бұрын

Sandworm version of a hangnail

@pseudonymousbeing987

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the movie shows this very effectively with the nasty worm nostrils that immedietly make us viscerally react with disgust at the thought of damaging them.

@adamscott7354

2 ай бұрын

Isn't it also like sectional scales like a worm but it regulates the air intake vs sand?

@brendanfalvy1281

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, if I recall this is explained in detail in the book. This film would have made me so happy in high school. I’d be jealous of Denis if I didn’t think he was the absolute best person to take on adapting the novel. In fact, I’m beside myself in anticipation for Dune Messiah

It's actually really chilling to see the way the Fremen go from harvesting the water from their slain enemies to just straight up burning their bodies in the end, sacrificing their culture so quickly for religious fervor

@dustinwilson4815

2 ай бұрын

It was symbolism under orders from Paul. He wanted to burn them as they had burned his family.

@sensaiuriah5440

2 ай бұрын

I mean they already explained they had no use for their water since it was so polluted. But that could be a reason

@curlymcdom

2 ай бұрын

Didn't think of it that way that's a great insight. Not least as previously the water they'd collected over the generations was wiped out in a few minutes

@Joseph-ky3os

2 ай бұрын

​@@sensaiuriah5440 They won't use harvested water from Harkonnens for drinking but Stilgar said they use it for plenty of other things. And not all those soldiers are Harkonnens either. Sardukar would be perfectly fine for drinking water. But that is being abandoned.

@adamfriisakra7351

2 ай бұрын

The way I see it is that this shows how fully they are comitted to Lisan Al Gaib and the promise that he will turn Arrakis back into a green paradise, where water is no longe such a scarce resource.

Watching this on IMAX was a whole experience. Not many movies can give me chills, this one did many times.

@axr7149

2 ай бұрын

Wait till you see LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962). Both the DUNE novels and the film adaptations take inspiration from this film (as well as SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM, the memoir on which LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is based on).

@NelsonStJames

2 ай бұрын

This is very true. A lot of stuff coming out on IMAX gains nothing by the format other than rising the price of a ticket.

@captainziggy82

2 ай бұрын

Same, went 4 times

@christopherwallace2106

2 ай бұрын

Easily the best movie I have ever seen in theaters. The whole room was SHAKING during some scenes. Paul walking up to the southern fremen gave me chills

@Kivota

2 ай бұрын

The last hour in IMAX was 10/10 perfect cinema -- one of the best movie experiences I've ever had. I've seen it 3 more times since, and read the first two books. So good.

The bene gesserit don’t tell their women who their parents/family are so that if they needed/wanted to breed two relatives together to keep certain bloodlines strong, they could make it happen without question. That’s one reason why the Bene Gesserit Mother was pissed that Jessica produced a son because their plan was to breed a female Atreides with Feyd

@haukionkannel

2 ай бұрын

Natzi style breeding the superior being! Really nice tatch by Herbert!

@ge2719

2 ай бұрын

Yeah because as we know breeding a family together leads to 'stronger' bloodlines. And definitely not birth defects and genetic disorders.

@zoltanposfai3451

2 ай бұрын

To be precise, they don't always tell them. It's usually hidden when the knowledge would interfere with their plans.

@ericthrone6547

2 ай бұрын

@@ge2719 it doesn't necessarily lead to birth defects and genetic disorders. It increases the chances of getting two pairs of a defective (or enhanced) gene. The lack of genetic diversity can be countered by breeding it out in the next generation

@miniroseyo

2 ай бұрын

@@ge2719 if the bene gesserit say it doesn't then they probably know more then you

Fun fact: the books actually explain that the Imperium have the power to make Arrakis inhabitable, but they choose not to, because in order for the Spice to exist, Arrakis needs to be a desert.

@godlessveteran2431

2 ай бұрын

Keynes does mention that in the first movie briefly, but most people miss it.

@SeverityAsured

2 ай бұрын

They actually do have a scene in the first film implying that, I think they say something about the work having been done then they discovered the spice. Something like that.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

No worms, no spice. Basically. The exact mechanism is a little more complicated but that’s what it boils down to. And water is lethal to the sand worms.

@radicaladz

2 ай бұрын

It definitely plays into the theming of colonial powers' exploitation of natural resources. Making Arrakis green does have longlasting and unforeseen ecological and societal consequences down the line, due to spice production becoming impossible, but that's another story.

@squishyhunter1744

2 ай бұрын

And in the latter books, Arrakis is made a paradise, but the worms are dying, it becomes a major plot point in the last three books.

The scenes on Giedi Prime genuinely made my jaw drop every time I've seen this movie. The way they were shot is not only so creative, but the acting and music set the atmosphere so well that it instantly feels like a completely different planet, culture and a huge threat, which is exactly what the movie is going for.

@axebeard6085

2 ай бұрын

Yes, shooting those scenes in infrared was an amazing choice. It really helped to cement the fascist feel.

@scatmanskabadop

2 ай бұрын

My personal favorite is Paul's arrival at the Southern War Council. Just the brutalistic, barren southern landscape coupled with the Harkonnen horns and drums that now dominates the soundtrack after the revelation of Paul's ancestry, and the Harkonnen arenalike chanting that accompanies the Atreides theme as Paul makes his way through the mass of Fremen... I get chills every time. It's way shorter than the Geidi Prime sequence, but it's executed just as well, and Denis better get at least a Best Director nomination come Oscars season cause he was the only part of Dune 1 that wasn't even nominated last time

@attoboi9763

2 ай бұрын

the only part I didnt like was how they choose to make feyd rautha look like a legit threat worthy of fighting paul, like killing 3 drugged men would make the bene gesserit think he's incredible, he beat one old man and everyone including the emperor acts like hes the best fighter in the universe

@ericthrone6547

2 ай бұрын

@@attoboi9763he expected all three to be drugged, the last one not could have been lethal regardless. These are trained killers, the fact that Feyd dropped his shield and embraced the situation is the point. Another note, the guy he (easily) killed would be considered a nearly olympic gold medalist fighter today, people are built different 20 thousand years in the future.

@attoboi9763

2 ай бұрын

@@ericthrone6547 yes but does killing one trained killer 1v1 with interference from the 6 guys encircling them really make him look that powerful?

"How does his hair look so perfect?" Maybe he's born with it? Maybe it's Muad'Dib...

@zoltanposfai3451

2 ай бұрын

Lisan al Ha-iiir!

@jeffgray7922

2 ай бұрын

I understood that reference. :)

@anoriolkoyt

2 ай бұрын

LOL

@titokrause

2 ай бұрын

as it is written!

@LordVolkov

2 ай бұрын

@@titokrause He *IS* the Kwizatz Hair-derach!!!

"We're not going to give the worms a little snack? Excuse me, the worms worked very hard." That line killed me. Comedy out of nowhere.

@LiberPater777

2 ай бұрын

They already ate their fill.

@MaikeruNeko

2 ай бұрын

Comedy Gold you might say...

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

I’m not surprised she wonders that. The fremen worship the worms as gods but then also do this.

@zolahVR

2 ай бұрын

I mean they are literally making the spice humans harvest to trip through space, the least they deserve is a little snack. Wildlife always manages to find their way to organic garbage anyway.

@overbeb

2 ай бұрын

Religious fervor can make people forget their true values.

32:11 This scene has a LOT of meta significance. In the books, Paul says he sees 2 possible futures for survival. One of those futures involves him standing before the Baron and saying "Hello, Grandfather". Paul is disgusted by this future. The other involves Paul's sister Alia (who is already born at that point) killing the Baron herself. Paul saying "Grandfather" is a nice callback to that, AND can help explain the differences between the book and the film. The book is one of the possible futures. The film is an alternative future/universe.

@ericthrone6547

2 ай бұрын

That is a brilliant catch!

@Falwashere

2 ай бұрын

So the story is not the same with the book?

@jounnesy9612

2 ай бұрын

​@@Falwashere it is essentually, but they changed it a bit because his sister is actually born in the book and kills the baron as a toddler who is very wise like her mother because of the holy water. In the movies Pauls doing it because Alia isn't born yet but it but he mentions that one of the futures is meeting him and saying hallo Grandfather so it't a cool easter egg

@jounnesy9612

2 ай бұрын

hello* sorry for the grammar, I hate my Phone😂

@kylejde

2 ай бұрын

@@jounnesy9612 and in the 1984 movie the actress Alicia Witt in one of her first roles playing that creepy as hell 8 year old killing the Barron with the Gom Jabbar needle.

Fun Fact about the books, Princess Irulan the emperor's daughter will become the prime historical source for Paul's story. Every chapter begins with a quote from her documents.

@nur418777

2 ай бұрын

And her cousin will do the same for Paul's son.

@RichardJActon

2 ай бұрын

As a result she's first character whose name we get in the books because it opens with a quote from one of her books, 'The Manual of Muad'Dib'.

@IbbyMelbourne

Ай бұрын

She's also the most cucked woman in the universe

@jdksdj11

Ай бұрын

@@nur418777 I really like the reveal who's the author of the quotes in Children of Dune.

@mitchhamilton64

Ай бұрын

bro, that sounds so spoilery. why would you send this? do you have no life?

The final look between Paul and Chani with their theme playing in the background never fails to make me tear up

The reason the gladiator fight looks like that is because it was shot in infrared. It's a very cool style choice.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

I was amazed when I read that. It works perfectly. It gives the whole scene a completely new look.

The hooks used for riding a worm expose the inner sensitive flesh of the worm, that's why it doesn't sink into the sand again. They turn the worm moving the hooks, because the worm will always try to have the exposed part on the top. For dismounting they just ride the worm until it tires, then it's not "as dangerous" to drop down.

@jossshhhh1991

2 ай бұрын

Denis has actually said in an interview that he came up with a cool way they would dismount and said that he'll probably show it in the next movie

@deek60819

2 ай бұрын

@@jossshhhh1991 ooh interesting, looking forward to that. I think it'd be fairly simple to show them sliding or jumping off at a certain angle to dismount or something. I always wonder how the huge groups mount and dismount though, especially the elderly and kids lol

@GothKaida

2 ай бұрын

@@deek60819i think they undo the hooks in a way that makes the worms sink straight and they just slowly slide off like a escalator

34:31 the cinematographer is Greig Fraser. He's the genius behind the first film as well and he won an Oscar for best cinematography. He's also behind huge films like The Batman (2022), Star Wars Rogue One (2016), and The Creator (2023).

@user-gn1cl9ix7p

2 ай бұрын

He's amazing.

@sandwiched

2 ай бұрын

Whoa... ALL of those films are utterly stunning, visually.

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@zeroxcharlie3171

2 ай бұрын

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@AndyBestHP

2 ай бұрын

This is good to know and thanks for sharing a tough experience.

35:40 Paul surviving his wounds isn't as lucky as you think. Paul had already been getting Prana-Bindu training from Jessica, and had a lot of control over his own body. Also, when Paul drank the Water of Life, he gained all the powers of a Reverend Mother with one very important difference: he gained the memories of both his male and female ancestors. So Paul likely used his bodily control to stop the bleeding. In the novel, Feyd uses a blade that is poisoned with a drug that that slows you down, but isn't detected as a poison by the poison snoopers (devices that check for the presence of poison). Paul is able to adjust his body chemistry to counteract the effect of the drug.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

exactly paul is also stated to be far better than his mother in the prana bindu nerve control by his own mother so he has martial abilties suprassing that of his mother a fully trained bene gesserit

@user-ee8yj4io3g

2 ай бұрын

He also survived because he used the same technique that he had during sparring with Gurney and foresaw how to end the fight (we are shown this for a second when Paul tells Jessica that she is Harkonen)

Hits a lot harder when you remember, that in Part 1, Paul's first words after he sees the future for the first time is: *"Somebody help me, please."*

The first Harkonnen unit didn’t used their shields cause in lore when a laser shot hit a shield, it creates a small nuclear explosion, they were using laser guns, so a single shot could kill them all. All of them got killed by the Fremen anyway 😂

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

I feel like Harkonnen soldiers are nothing if not optimistic.

@radicaladz

2 ай бұрын

The big bulky suits they wear, at least in this film, are the result of Harkonnens not being adapted to the environment of Arrakis, being from a world where they are barely exposed to UV light, hence their borderline albinism. However, I wanna say that there is also a detail in the deep lore that says that because spice is so suffused within the ecosystem, once you spend a long enough time on Arrakis, you can't just go live offworld because your body becomes reliant on spice to function. So even if they survive the holy war, many of those Fremen going offworld in the final shots might die from spice withdrawal anyway.

@sensaiuriah5440

2 ай бұрын

​@@radicaladzlmao they better bring a baggy of spice for the road or something 😂

@ben2741

2 ай бұрын

Could also call a worm which would complicate thing

@Heroo01

2 ай бұрын

@@radicaladz the Eyes of Ibad (blue eyes) is also said to be a sure sign of spice addiction. It's basically THE designer drug in the rest of the universe, but for Fremen it's just a sacred part of their culture The guild navigators are even cooler imo. We may not get to see any but it'd be soo sick to get to see some in Messiah

Nobody else mentioned what you said at 10:56, I totally agree this is much more nuanced than people are seeing. Paul starts off the movie with pure revenge in his heart, that's where he ended the last film. Then he opens this film by saying early on his exact plan, convert the non believers. Later he stands between the two groups looking back and forth. He leaves the believers and goes to talk to the unfaithful, not just because he understands them more and is more like them, but because he needs their help. Because he wants to be accepted, and he does this in this underhanded way... His thoughts evolve through the film, but this is definetly where he starts out, and is an important motivator. He resents the propoganda, yet he uses it, and yet the most profitable course of action is to reject it at first and gather support from all sides. Now that's crazy.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

His Bene Gesserit training sneaks through even when he doesn’t mean it to. They are all about subtle manipulation and control.

@pseudonymousbeing987

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon Precisely what I thought. "You have more than one birthright". The universe showed him that Bene Gesserit ways survive, and his father's ways led to death. Literally.

The first time Paul rides the sand worm was utterly incredible in theaters. That and every time there was a thumper, the audio was awe inspiring. My mouth was dropped through that entire scene.

I watched this in IMAX. I will never be the same again.

@alexhp26

2 ай бұрын

preach brother

@axebeard6085

2 ай бұрын

I drove from Cheyenne WY to Texas to see it in IMAX with the 1.43:1 screen. Unfortunately, I screwed up when I ordered my tickets. So I then drove from Texas to Branson, Missouri to the 1.43:1 screen there. It was amazing seeing so much more of what was happing in the film. But I will NEVER go back to Branson. It was incredibly creepy. The Simpsons was right: Branson is like Las Vegas if it was run by Ned Flanders.

@Darkstar_Dayne

2 ай бұрын

I'm in India so we have a small number of IMAX theaters here. I had to drive 80 Miles to New Delhi to watch the movie, all I can say is that I have "No Regrets"

@Replect

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, for my second viewing we drove almost 3 hours to Leonberg (in Germany) for the very first time, where the - as of today - biggest (IMAX, though not the 1.43:1 format) screen on the planet is. It was quite the experience!! 🤤

@axebeard6085

2 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention that I'm God's perfect idiot. That car trip from Wyoming to Texas to Missouri to Wyoming was about 2700 miles...

Despite Paul calling Feyd-Rautha "cousin", he still isn't revealing to others the fact that the Baron, Vladamir, was his grandfather; it's well-known that the Houses' lords are occasionally distantly related. In Part 1, when Vladimir has Duke Leto naked at the dinner table, he says, "You have a wonderful kitchen, cousin," acknowledging the fact that they are related by blood. Ultimately, the way the Bene Gesserit "careful cross bloodlines" is by providing concubines to ruling houses w/o the men actually knowing which bloodline they come from.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

Yes. The Bene Gesserit use the noble houses like breeding stock to make their ultimate human being, which they believe they can also control. Their hubris is astounding, but that's what tends to happen to people who remain in power too long.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319When Paul shouts *SILENCE* to the RM i felt like he was implying sth like *BE THANKFUL I’M NOT ORDERING YOU TO SHOVE YOUR HEAD UP YOUR OWN ASS*

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

NOPE vladamir isn't saying they are really cousins that is a misunderstanding many have its a ceromonial term taken from real life the thing is that the baron isn't the same level of noble that leto was who was a duke which is the highest order of nobility This is taken directly from the book: "I've lived for a time on this planet, cher cousin." "Believe me, cher cousin," the Baron said. "I do not want it to come to this." And there is another bit in the book where the Harkonnens receive a letter from Duke Leto, and Piter comments that it's missing the usual polite introduction: "He's most uncouth, Baron. Addresses you as 'Harkonnen' - no 'Sire et Cher Cousin,' no title, nothing." The "cher" lets us know that this is a French phrase they're dropping.) Since nobility intermarry and were usually related to each other in some way or another, it has sometimes been used in a generic way to address people of their own class, whether or not they were in fact related. essentially its just a way of saying my fellow noble and that mis it. all humans are related and currently no two people are no more than 50th cousins. but 23,000 years in the future people would be way further distantly related its different than leto and shaddam who were in fact distantly related "The Baron cannot forget that Leto is a cousin of the royal blood-no matter what the distance-while the Harkonnen titles came out of the CHOAM pocketbook." As I look back on it, I think there may have been some prescience in my father, too, for it is certain that his line and Muad'Dib's shared common ancestry. LETO ATREIDES (10,140-10,191) A distaff cousin of the Corrinos ("Distaff" means on the female side, so the Atreides are descended from a daughter of one of the earlier Corrino Emperors.)

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319 its not hubris its factual. the bene gesserit would have been able to control paul if the plan was followed alia would have been pauls mother and paul would have inherited feyds weaknesses that allow him to be controlled by the bg. he would have been trained by alia to believe the way the bene gesserit believe

12:51 - I actually love this moment. Don't know how it's described in the books, but cinematically, when the thopter falls as they run away laughing, I get the sense that these are two youths playing in a giant "sand box" (so to speak), having fun. It's like it's such a normal experience for Fremen (fighting invaders) that it's also one of the activities the way their youths play together while growing up, like it's all a big game if that makes any sense. Two people falling in love against the backdrop of a larger war, fighting the good fight or something. A trope we've all seen before.

@Roach_Dogg_JR

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think there’s a specific scene like that in the book that I can remember, but it does a good job showing how okay the fremen are with death. They live on the edge every day, seeing friends and family die often, so death and danger just isn’t very scary to them, not as much as a normal person. It’s why in the first movie Jamis is so quick to choose a fight to the death. They don’t even cry for their dead, it’s a waste of water. This also is ironically what makes them very susceptible to spiritual manipulation. When you live such a life, believing in a dream of a green paradise gives hope beyond all reason. “Nothing can survive there without faith.”

@MichaelEdwards-gc2xx

2 ай бұрын

​@@Roach_Dogg_JRsay rather that such religious fervor is the only way one could find hope in such a planet and under such oppression and endure.. we modern people underestimate the power of religion so much, since we havent had to personally and directly compete to death over resources..

The cinematographer is Grieg Fraser, he won an Oscar for best cinematography on the first Dune movie & he also did the cinematography for The Batman which is also visually stunning.

4:16 The shot of the eclipse is actually real (bar the second moon, of course). It happened when they were shooting the movie in 2022 and they decided to film it and put it in the movie!

First fight scene explained: The black suits that Harkonnens wear are a good example of their unwillingness to adapt I think. Everything they have is basically black and white due to their black (colorless) sun. Hovering/Floating takes... battery power... Shields + Laser/Lasgun = Nuke explosion. The same reason a lot of warriors use swords instead of Lasguns against one another. That guy who screamed "No shields!" was actually pretty smart, the only person who did anything useful in that situation for their side.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

not necessarily nuke, but possible nuke and its even crazier than just a possiblity the reaction could be at the recieving end, or can be at the sender or both ends or neither and can happen away from both ends.

Love love LOVEEEEE Jessica’s character arc in this movie! She’s so slimy but I loved every second of it

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

If you haven’t read the book, you need to. She’s even slimier in the book. That part where she’s thinking to herself about how to convert the nonbelievers is basically her thought process throughout the book.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

In the movie she seems a lot more sympathetic until she drinks the Water of Life. In the book you're reminded often that she's just as scheming as other Bene Gesserit, but she's loyal to House Atriedes, instead of the Bene Gesserit's long-term plans. People are just as much pawns to her as to Reverend Mother Mohiam.

@MsSwordwolf

Ай бұрын

There were definite shades of Rose The Hat (Rebecca's character in Doctor Sleep) in her short monologue about converting the unbelievers. She starts out with this barely noticeable smile, but as she goes on her expression gets colder and colder. Brilliant stuff.

Wooo! Thank you for your sacrifice for US! There’s no judgment when you give up the ultimate experience just to give us this content. Much appreciated 😊

@3Kings_Industries

2 ай бұрын

You can always return to the big screen. After the successes of these films, there is NO way the studios won't re-release in theaters to capitalize on the film-goer frenzy

@crimsonghoul8983

2 ай бұрын

@@3Kings_Industries Yeah, but only if you are in the US. Maybe Canada.

Denis changed Chani A LOT, which i think helped a lot of people understand things more clearly, Paul is just a guy who is definitely special but, he is no messiah and is absolutely not the fremen leader they need. Chani made that aspect apparant in this film

@Connor8609

Ай бұрын

Depends on where you end the series. Paul and his son are definitely the Messiahs, doesn't mean they're good people but they saved the human race.

19:00 Their skin is translucent because it’s not a filter, but filmed in infrared.

32:59 can we just acknowledge how badass the shot of Rabban's body falling to Gurney's feet is ? the lighting is just flawless, all you can see is this shadow-like figure triumphing over his enemy

I saw this in theater with my son. The riding of the worm, was an unforgettable experience. The whole theater was shaking! My seat was trying to throw me off, like riding a bucking bronco! incredible! I needed a seat belt! I reached for my son, fearing for his safety. He was screaming with delight! We both let go of our seats, stretched our arms and legs and WENT FOR A RIDE on the worm!

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

Make sure you watch the video of Denis Villeneuve breaking down how they did that scene. It’s like 90% practical. They built their own sand dune, and put three large pipes in it. Each pipe was attached to a truck. They had a stunt man run along the ridge of the dune, as the trucks pulled the pipes out collapsing the dune under him. Truly incredible.

@moleman1976

2 ай бұрын

I commented to friends that I felt like a giddy 8-year-old kid during that scene! It should have been cheesy, but it wasn't. The combination of effects, cinematography, acting, and music made a pure triumph, and it got me good!

@natmanprime4295

2 ай бұрын

what? i saw it imax i never got any shaking seat

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@moleman1976 It WAS cheesy in the 1984 Dune, like most of the film. They used practical effects too, which goes to show some of the practical-effect purists that it doesn't matter whether you use practical or CGI effects, as long as they are done well. Denis did both superbly in this film.

@ariadnepyanfar1048

2 ай бұрын

@@natmanprime4295 there are some ‘4D’ cinemas where the seating in the theatre is set up like amusement park film rides, where the seat moves with what is going on on screen. Apparently some 4D theatre growers feared for their necks or backs during Dune Part 2

The Worms stay above ground because they pull back one of the plates with the hooks, which exposes it to the irritating sand. It won't dive while that's exposed.

“ Come on bro, stick it in! “ ….heheh😂 that’s what’s she said

@godlessveteran2431

2 ай бұрын

I knew this comment would be here lol

@MysteriousMrL

2 ай бұрын

@@godlessveteran2431 As written!

Read the books after the first movie. Watched the second movie three times and am now rereading the books 😂 I’ve absolutely fallen in love with this world

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

Frank Herbert created such a fascinating world. One of the things I like about the books is that you get enough time to actually sit in this world and experience it. Something that really couldn’t be translated to the screen.

@brianelson1481

2 ай бұрын

I did the same thing! Got my brother into the first movie a few months after it came out, he got us the books, and we read them before the second movie (he read the first four I read the first three). I've seen the second one three times in theaters

"That is the wrong tactic to take" to the guy who sees all the correct dialogue options lol.

@maniac7770

2 ай бұрын

Personally amused by how Paul's answer in both part one and two to Jessica cautioning him is to just say "screw it, all in". First to sell Liet on his being Lisan al-Gaib. Then the whole council.

Denis really did something very interesting with Chani in his film. She's very different in the book, and I admit she didn't make a big impact on me when reading it. But here, Denis took such an amazing approach, making her a more critical voice against the Bene Gesserit, the prophecy and Paul's role. I really loved that change in the story, and Zendaya played her wonderfully. All in all the movie is amazing, I loved what Denis and his team brought to life from the source material and what they chose to alter/adapt. It was very effective in the overall story. Such a stunning movie!

@vinnycordeiro

2 ай бұрын

Denis used Chani to show the points many readers missed (and still miss!) while reading the first book; and watching many other reactors that point was also missed by the majority of them (but Nat got it). He'll need to do a lot of work to reconcile those changes with the events as told in Dune Messiah, but I'm here waiting for it. :)

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

@@vinnycordeiroPaul says that he has seen her forgiving him, which makes me wonder just how Villeneuve would plot that out. If she does forgive him, what causes her change of heart? It’ll be really interesting to see.

@vinnycordeiro

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon I have a hunch, but I'll keep it quiet. Anyone who read the books may infer that though.

@haukionkannel

2 ай бұрын

Yeah… Chani is much better in the movie than she is in the books! And i love the Dune as a book… But like many scifi writers, Herbert was greator of the ideas… not very good character writer.

@ben2741

2 ай бұрын

Spoilers: Chani will be the one to hatch a fremen plot against Paul in messiah

The scene where Paul enters the great hall and gets everyone to follow him is both awesome and chilling. These men and women have had their messiah, their god revealed to them, the greatest moment of their cultures existence. They are now lead by the one person in the Imperium who cannot be ordered by the Emperor, killed by the Harkonnens, or (most importantly in my opinion) controlled or subverted by the schemes of the Bene Gesserit. Paul Muad'ib Atreides, Duke of Arrakis, Emperor, Lisan-Al-Gaib and Kwisach Haderach will burn the galaxy, and the Fremen will happily to it.

33:47 The term "Abomination" is used by the Bene Gesserit to describe a fetus that is exposed to the Water of Life. The Water of Life causes them to become aware, and unlocks the memories of generations of their female ancestors. This can be problematic (which is discussed in later books).

@edwinsuijkerbuijk5106

2 ай бұрын

It is also used in other cases. They split humanity into 3 groups, animals, humans, and abominations. animals : the largest group of humanity unable to control their instincts and would fail the test with the box. Humans : have self control and insight into themselves and should be able to control power like precognitive dreams and in case of women control the voices inside them after taking the water of life. Abomination : any animal that has come into powers like precognitive dreams unable to control these powers. This is also why after Paul passes the test with the box the reverend mother refers to Paul as young human.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@edwinsuijkerbuijk5106 Yes. She still refers to him in an impersonal way, as the Bene Gesserit, even recognizing humans who display self-control, still place themselves above them. Their hubris was a cause of a lot of the problems in the galaxy. Sociopaths don't make good leaders, but they often crave leadership. It's a bad combination, in fiction and in reality.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

Yup. For all of Alia’s brokenly OP quasi-Mary Sueness... she has NO SELF.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

NO it isn't the term abomniation solely refers to a fetus that is preborn. the water of life is a fremen method of creating a reverend mother not known to anyone off world

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319 per science sociopaths don't actually exist. psychopaths do but studies prove they do actually make good leaders

I'M READY TO RIDE THE WORM!!!

@mattblack6736

2 ай бұрын

oh my..

@cynicalthoughts4695

2 ай бұрын

That's how kids are calling it this days? 😂😂😂

@dzhellek

2 ай бұрын

Parking is the hardest part.

@mastervodo6840

2 ай бұрын

That's what SHE said!

@ds02205

2 ай бұрын

No diddy

I havent read the books yet but a little detail I learned is that because of energy shields guns became useless. And if they use laser guns and makes contact with a shield it kills both the one with the shield and the shooter with a nuclear explosion.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

I think this is a big part of why they take down the shielded ornithopter before firing lasguns at the harvester. With the scale of the reaction, even a very small chance of hitting a shield would be unacceptable.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon It was an interesting idea, the laser/shield nuke stuff, when I read the books, but it didn't make sense considering the fanaticism of the Fremen. Later in the first book it tells of Fremen women throwing their babies at the Saudakar to distract them while their husbands kill their enemies...absolute religious extremism. Now in the present day any religious fundamentalist leader in the Middle East would love to get their hands on a nuclear device. I'm supposed to believe the Fremen wouldn't sacrifice chosen warriors to use a lasgun against Harkonnen/Imperial shielded units or bases? It's like a suicide vest x 1 million.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

it doesn't definitely kill them its simply a possiblity so no one takes the chance. and it is weird in that it could kill the person whose shield is shot or kill the person doing the shooting or both or somewhere away from both so its never used as a tactic in battle

@magister343

2 ай бұрын

Sometimes. About half of the times when lasers hit shields, they do absolutely nothing. Sometimes they cause only small explosion. Sometimes they explode with more force than any nuclear weapons. Sometimes only the shield emitter explodes, sometimes only the laser gun, and sometimes both. There is no way to predict the outcome of pseudo-atomics, apart from Paul's genetic and spice induced prescience.

Two kind of people watching Dune : having read the book and who did not read it. The reaction can be very different.

@Christobanistan

2 ай бұрын

Third kind: those who watched the far superior Dune 2000 miniseries.

@ratatoskr8190

2 ай бұрын

Indeed ... I liked Part one dispite the little changes like Kynes being a woman (wtf?). But I absolutely disliked Part 2 cause it has so many bad changes.

@bluegrassreb

2 ай бұрын

@@ratatoskr8190 Same. The Chani character was deplorable. and the whole anti-belief in "the Lisan al Gaib" by the young Freman was silly. Also, Paul's sister not being the one to kill the baron which is so important to the story in the next books.

@ratatoskr8190

2 ай бұрын

@@bluegrassreb My words. I had the suspicion that Alia won't be in this movie when I saw the trailers to this movie. No Alia makes absolute no sense not just because her actions are important to the plot but without her born the whole story of this movie happens in less than nine month. So Paul adapts the fremen culture and learns all their skills in less than nine month. It's absurd 😒

@Christobanistan

2 ай бұрын

@@ratatoskr8190 And no Weirding Way for the Fremen means the Harkonen and Sardaukar have to be made just thoroughly incompetent to explain why they always lose so badly, after dominating in the first movie! BTW, the miniseries is available on torrent in 720p! I can't find it anywhere else. In the last few weeks, it been copyrighted completely off of KZread.

Watching this in imax was a revelation. I’ve read all the books but even then, I’d never been more swept up the way I was with this movie. Afterwards it was just a bunch of silent, disoriented people stumbling out of the theater not knowing what to do. Last time I experienced that was after Everything Everywhere All At Once. Edit: The way I screamed at the idea of Feyd-Rautha in a duel to the death with Maude.

33:34 Paul's threat to spice is different in the books. Instead of threatening them with atomics, he threatens to use the Water of Death. If the Water of Life is poured onto a pre-spice mass (spice fields are the result of pre-spice blowing up.), it will cause a chain reaction that will kill all sandworms on Dune.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

only the fremen and the guild know the worms are the source of the spice

@axebeard6085

2 ай бұрын

@@houseofaction The Fremen certainly knew about the sandworm life-cycle, as Liet-Kynes would have told them if they didn't know already. I'm not so certain about what the Spacing Guild knew. I don't recall the Frank Herbert novels mentioning it. The BH/KJA may have, but I treat those novels the same way Frank Herbert meant the Dune Encyclopedia (that he authorized) to be treated: "Some of the contributions are sure to arouse controversy, based as they are on questionable sources." As for the Water of Death... The novel suggests that Paul is the only person who realized the Water of Life could be used to forever destroy spice on Arrakis. This would have been something he learned after drinking the Water of Life and being able to see all possible futures. When the Emperor lands on Arrakis, he brought the forces of all of the Houses (Great and Small). The Spacing Guild only allowed the Emperor to land; the other forces had to remain in space. Through their limited spice-induced prescience, the Spacing Guild knew that there would be disaster if they allowed all of the forces to land. When Paul confronts the Emperor, he turns to the Spacing Guild representatives that came down with the Emperor. He ordered them to send the forces of the Houses back home or he would destroy spice forever. Again, the Spacing Guild's prescience told them that Paul was not bluffing, but they probably still didn't know how Paul would destroy the spice.

Never had a true favorite movie until now. Dune 2 is a masterpiece, especially in IMAX.

@alexhp26

2 ай бұрын

IMAX IS EVERYTHING!

so the main things to note that i felt this movie doesn't explain all that well: water is poisonous to sand worms, which is what we see when the fremen drowns the baby worm. When a worm is mixed with water, it makes the water of life, which is basically like concentrated spice and is what allows you to expand your mind enough to be able to use prescience, but is deadly to anyone who hasn't been trained to survive poisons. the spacing guild is a powerful faction of people who have genetically modified themselves to be able to use spice to pilot FTL ships. They consume a ton of spice and that allows them to access a limited form of prescience to be able to fold space and allow ships to travel between stars. Originally this was possible with AI, but after the butlerian jihad all AI were outlawed. So the spacing guild have a complete monopoly on space travel, and require spice to do this. Which is why Paul threatening to destroy the spice fields works, because the space guild would never allow anyone to threaten Paul and therefore lose their monopoly. this next part is not in the movie at all, and so could be considered a spoiler for the next movie(s). But it is explained in the first Dune book. Read at your own risk. spice is created as a result of baby sandworms, so if the worms all die, there will be no spice. Reintroducing water to Arrakis will kill all the worms and therefore destroy all possible production of spice. So making Arrakis green and habitable means the worms will die which will destroy the only known source of spice and permanently stop the galaxy from using FTL travel. The empire has had the ability to make arrakis green forever, they just never will because they know spice is related to the worms. Obviously the fremen don't really care about this, they want the planet to be green and while they worship the worms they don't really care about spice all that much. In the books Paul threatens to flood the spice fields with water as opposed to using nukes, and the spacing guild then basically surrenders to him and supports his holy war against the other great houses.

@Christobanistan

2 ай бұрын

Not permanently, right? Because couldn't people desperate for interstellar travel just reintroduce AI to do it? No one can stop them!

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@Christobanistan The tech for advanced AI hasn't been around for ten thousand years. No one knows how to make it. I mean, they don't even have computers equivalent to what we have today in the Dune universe. It would take centuries to rediscover the technology for AI. The Fremen also don't realize that turning their planet green again would kill them all. They are completely addicted to spice, as it's in their food, water, and air. Terraforming Arrakis would kill worms-->no more spice-->spice withdrawal for all Fremen-->all Fremen die. There's no happy ending for the Fremen.

@Christobanistan

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319 Ah, that makes sense! Although, they have plenty of technology that seems to be highly dependent on advanced computational technologies, such as that seeker drone that went after Paul, and space faring technologies. So I seriously doubt it would take centuries to reconstitute neural networks. Two decades at the very most, I think. It's mainly a function of compute scale, at first, and they seem to have that in spades.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@Christobanistan It's possible...the only problem would be a ten thousand year old cultural taboo with most of the population over reviving AI tech and robots, and needing to expect hostility over it.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319Itms saying something that all that backstabbing treacherous fuckery going on, no one uses AI or robots.

The sound design is SO good. When all the music drops for the final fight and it's just them breathing? Perfect.

Pauls tale is one of tragedy. He didn’t ask to be the Kwisatz Haderach. Paul himself in the first film says the line “Your Bene Gesserit made me a freak” He loses his father and close friends. Not even his spice enhanced prescience ability could foresee the attack on sietch tabr. He says the line in the film “I couldn’t see” he then has visions of chani dying. Even then he says he can’t go south for fear of fulfilling the prophecy. When Chani asks him to help, he reluctantly agrees. It’s tragic because he is torn between this awful future but it’s the only way he can be sure to help his friends and save the women he loves. A genuine masterpiece from Deni Villeneuve

@vinnycordeiro

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention the aftermath of the holy war that will surely be shown in the next movie. And we'll need to remember: it was the "better" option.

@AMcCarthy83

2 ай бұрын

@@vinnycordeiro it will be very interesting to see how Deni adapts Messaih… given it was written to contextualise Paul’s story and Deni has already done that with the changes to Chani’s character. Also.. I wonder if they will bring back you know who… 👀

@vinnycordeiro

2 ай бұрын

@@AMcCarthy83 My bet is that he'll take the same approach the miniseries from the 2000s did: by adapting parts of Children of Dune alongside Dune Messiah. But we'll need to wait.

23:20 Paul is having a nightmare about Chani being burned by an atomic blast. The Imperium has VERY STRICT rules about the use of atomic weapons. The Great Convention states "The use of atomics against humans will be cause for planetary obliteration." The primary use case would be when one house attacks another. It could also be used when one faction on a planet uses atomics against another faction. In the case of Arrakis, there are special considerations. No one wants spice destroyed. So in lieu of planetary obliteration, it would likely be obliteration of Fremen sietches.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

And Paul gets around it with a technicality: he used the weapons on the shield wall, not on people. The Imperium is not thrilled with his logic, but by that point there isn’t much they can do anymore.

@randyd7836

2 ай бұрын

It's following the letter of the law, but not the spirit. Atomic weapons are not supposed to be used at all. But the law only states they may not be used against humans.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon They couldn't do anything to the Fremen, with all their Imperial eggs in one basket--spice only on Arrakis. Whoever controls spice controls the galaxy. Paul controlled spice = Emperor Muad'dib.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319Which is probably why the script has him threaten the concentrated spice fields but not the water attack in the book where literally every last sandworm would die.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

@@davidw.2791 that threat was only to the guild because only the guild, the fremen and paul and jessica know its part of the life cycle of the worm. no one else does

Mate im literally here for Your personality 😂, your reactions are really genuine 🎉

@NatalieGoldReacts

2 ай бұрын

thanks mate!

The worm stays above ground because its armor is folded up. The actual skin beneath is very sensitive, so if the worm were to dive it would cause a lot of pain

Every time I watch the monologue from Paul towards the climax of the film, I get goosebumps. An incredible job of writing and performance from Timothee. He does a great job driving home the sinister tone of that moment. It’s terrifying to see him embrace the role of Lisan Al-Gaib.

The level of existential dread and sorrow I felt the rest of the night after this movie was something else. I haven't read the books but I was generally aware of the direction it was going but this movie really captured that feeling. As soon as Lady Jessica took the blue juice, the movie became so much more horrifying.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

She stopped being Jessica after that...her own personality was just one in a sea of hundreds or thousands of other Reverend Mothers' personalities in her head.

@sVieira151

2 ай бұрын

@@rikk319 Yup, I've seen a lot of reactors not realise that with her or Paul. People's lived experiences help shape their personality, so when you suddenly have access to thousands of lived experiences, you are going to change

There is absolutely NO WAY she cut lisans speech about bringing them green paradise, WHAT

@Heroo01

2 ай бұрын

She cut a LOT out of this ngl. I was expecting a 45-55min video. She even cut out Gurney's introduction and he just randomly shows up at the war council later. She didn't even show the scene walking back with him where Gurney asks if he's scared of going South because he loses control and Paul says "because I gain it". That scene is so badass

@ukuviispert9599

2 ай бұрын

Yeah she cut sooo much out, none of the best parts that I actually wanted to see the reaction to were kept in. (stilgar mentionig a green paradise, feyd entering the arena, Lisan al ghaib speech, long live the fighters, lead them to paradise)

In the post Star Wars, current super hero generation, it’s easy to forget how few people have actually seen true science fiction handled with respect for the genre and for the audience on the big screen. Thank goodness for directors like Villanueve who have actually read these works helming films like this with the clout to actually get them marketed as they should.

@Heroo01

2 ай бұрын

"clout" lmao

@cpob2013

2 ай бұрын

Hey Palpatine declaring the empire is about on par with lisan al galib. It's Disney star wars and JJ trek that murdered the genre and raped the corpse

The worm stays above ground because of the hooks. The rider pulls the scales up, exposing the worms flesh beneath. Sand getting past the scales is very painful for the worm, so they keep the side with the rider above the sand so that it hurts less. This is also how the rider steers, and why after being ridden, the worms don't attack. They are exhausted.

@Christobanistan

2 ай бұрын

So WTF do the worms eat? Sand?

It's not really touched on or explained by the movies, but laser weapon + shield = nuclear type explosion. Hence the Harkkonnen soldier at the beginning saying "no shields". Also, the attack style on the spice harvesters. Physical penetration weapons work against the kill-copters, lasers don't (unless you want to kill everyone in the area and ruin all the stuff). On the nuclear topic, yes, they targeted the walls behind the stronghold. Part of the agreement between all of the Great Houses (of which Atreides is one), is that they will never use nuclear weapons against each other's armies. Paul is being clever in a technical sense.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

It’s worth noting that there’s a blast *at both ends* when a lasgun hits a shield. It’s suicide for both the gunman and the target.

@iczorro

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon good call

@corynydam2361

2 ай бұрын

I think the Harkonnen said “No shields” because it would attract more worms. Keynes mentioned in the first movie that shields drive the worms into a killing frenzy.

@iampotsataja

2 ай бұрын

To me destroying the walls with nukes was to make an entrance for the shai-hulud, since the city was worm proof otherwise

@iczorro

2 ай бұрын

@@iampotsataja Yes. Both

They said in the first film that the shields are not used out in the desert because they attract sand worms due to vibrations.

This is currently my favorite movie ever made - can’t wait to see your reaction! I wish there was a way for you to get the theatrical experience and still have your reaction like here… it truly is magical!

there are two reasons they didn't turn on their shields one it drives sandworms into a frenzy, and two and the big one if the beam from a lasgun hits an active shield there can be an atomic explosion

So many people forget or dont understand that Lady Jessica was Duke Leto's concubine, not his wife. They view Paul marrying Princes Irulen is a slight to Chani when it's mot a necessary evil. Also, in the books she takes it all in stride. She doesn't ride off into the sunset having a worm-self pity party :P

I think one of the biggest reasons why there's such a divide among audience's response to Paul is because his archetype isn't nearly as familiar with in pop culture. Paul is not a hero, or villain or even anti-hero. Paul is a tragic hero, and that's a very different thing than most of the discourse surrounding the character and ultimately what Herbert is trying to communicate within his work. The whole "Paul is good guy vs. Paul is bad guy it just depends on your perspective" perspective misses the point. Paul is very deliberately written as the Mary Sue of Mary Sues; he's raised from birth as a mentat, an order that represents all of the sacred aspects of the masculine. He's surrounded by alpha males who love and guide him. He's trained in the Bene Gesserit way by his mother, representing all the cunning power of the feminine. Paul's mother loves him and his father so much that she disobeys a sacred order of her own sisterhood. Paul is raised as a ducal heir and learned in the ways or war and politics. He then goes on to live among the most robust, resourceful and pragmatic people in all the imperium and eventually becomes their legitimate ruler after succeeding in all of their rituals and besting all comers. At this point the missionaria protectiva is moot, Paul has fulfilled all of the prophecies that no other person in the imperium ever could, he literally is That Guy and proves it. And that's all before becoming the goddamn Kwisatz Hadderach, the supreme being who can see in all places at once. The most capable human to ever live. And yet, even this supreme being is unfit to wield such monopolized power because no one is. The jihad is inevitable, violence sings its own song. This understanding of power is demonstrated in all the surrounding characters and subplots. The Bene Gesserit have the hubris to think they can control humanity and even the Kwisatz if they just patiently plan in the shadows long enough, the Fremen think they are ready to fulfill their dream of the "green paradise" which they do, but at great destructive cost to themselves, and so on. Herbert once stated that his favorite president was Richard Nixon as Nixon taught the American people to distrust presidents.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

It's not much different than most common people wishing they were rich, while despising the rich people they see manipulating the world to keep their power. "But...but I'd be different!" No, you'd be human, and fall into the same errors.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

they would have been able to control the kH if the plan was followed by Jessica, the plan as for alia to be pauls mother, and feyd to be his father. feyd can be controlled via sex. paul would have inherited feyds weakness and the bg would have controlled him via sex after he married one of shaddams daughters.

@cambodianz

2 ай бұрын

@@houseofaction and that’s the point though, the BG weren’t able to control for even Jessica falling for Leto, let alone the KH. Their very notion of control is an illusion. They carefully and meticulously planned this out for centuries, plans within plans and it still went sideways. The failing on their part was their very premise that this power was ever theirs to wield. There is no “if” or “would have”, there is only what happened. The BG plan was doomed before it began. Consolidating that much power never works out. This is what Herbert is telling us.

@masamune2984

2 ай бұрын

Is this post copied and pasted on EVERY single reaction video? Regardless, it’s a fantastic breakdown, so in this case I think it’s totally appropriate.

@rikk319

2 ай бұрын

@@masamune2984 Exactly. Someone is very full of themselves, to post it this often.

This goes unexplained in the movies but the reason they fight with swords and not guns (lasguns) is because if a lasgun hits a shield it creates a nuclear-like explosion. This is why swords and shields are the preferred fighting gear. Also having a shield out in the sands would drive the sandworms into a killing frenzy.

@randyd7836

2 ай бұрын

And there's no way to predict where along a beam the explosion will occur. You could shoot a shield from miles away and the atomic explosion could happen 5 feet in front of you.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

people keep saying this its not true its not that it WILL create a nuclear explosion it is that it MAY and there is no way of predicting where the explosion will ocure it can happen anywhere within range of the reaction

Ever since seeing this in theatres ive been looking forward to your reaction to it. 6 theatre viewings later and im still hyped!!!!

@alexhp26

2 ай бұрын

Same hereee

34:45 This fight is even crazier when you consider that Paul and Feyd are two VERY important products of the Bene Gesserit breeding program. If these 2 kill each other, the Bene Gesserit only have Alia and Feyd's child by Lady Margot Fenring.

@edwinsuijkerbuijk5106

2 ай бұрын

The Bene Gesserit wanted to create the quizat haderach, but by jessica being the barons daughter and giving birth to a male child he arose one generation earlier then the Bene Gesserit had foreseen. The Bene Gesserit plan was that Jessica would give birth to a daughter who would then be married to Feyd , and that a male child of that union might be the quizat haderach.

Thank you for saving your first reaction to this masterpiece for us Natalie, I was looking forward for it!! Love from Brazil ❤️❤️

I think Paul knew that Maud'dib meant "The one who points the way", since we saw him studying the mouse in the first movie. This is a smart movie in that Paul is complicated in his motives...is he saying things to manipulate or is he being sincere? Keeps the audience guessing.

We appreciate you Natalie!!!! Thank you for giving us this experience with you!

I love how the final fight between Paul and Feyd-Rautha calls back to the training with Gourney Halleck, where Paul learns that going for the quick kill could lead to the outcome shown in Part Two. These details are always amazing.

There were 2 scenes that made me chill when I first watched it in theaters. First: Paul's first worm ride and then, his speech. That scene, I almost started screaming Lisan Al'Ghaib at the theater.

Its never said in the movie but the sandworm, the little holes you see are like nostrils, they wont dive if they are expose to sand. Thats why they have those hooks that life them open.

Thank you for recognizing the political necessity of Paul marrying the princess. His ascension to the throne lacks legitimacy at this point in the eyes of the other Great Houses, the Spacing Guild, the Bene Gesserit etc. This is what this universe is about sometimes - marriage as a political strategy. It’s exactly the same reason why Paul’s father never married Jessica. In the book this is not quite so sentimental, as Chani understands and accepts it, knowing that Paul will never love the princess, will never give her children. I don’t dislike the ending and the changes that they made to Chani’s character, but she shouldn’t have been surprised by this. Paul should have prepped her for this situation. I feel like it was added just to lend a little bit of drama between the two characters.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

In fairness, while Chani is absolutely hurt by that it’s not the only thing that concerns her. The decision to marry Irulan is the icing on a very dubious cake. Personally, I like the change. It gives her more agency, while making the fremen more diverse and interesting. It also makes Paul’s task of ingratiating himself to all of the fremen more difficult. I also liked the touch of the skeptical fremen of Sietch Tabr being mostly younger, while the true believers tended to be older. It mimics population trends we see in the real world.

@jcs1025

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlon on balance I like the changes too. My only real criticism is not prepping her for what was inevitable- Pail marrying Irulan. No reason other than drama to let that be a surprise.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

actuallly chani didn't like it at first but didn't mind it after jessica told her that irulan will never have his child or his love

@jcs1025

2 ай бұрын

@@houseofaction correct. My point was that she doesn’t appear to have been prepped for this in the movie, and that seems unrealistic to me.

@MsSwordwolf

Ай бұрын

I do wonder if Villeneuve will change things further with the next movie, since if you read the books you know what comes after Irulan and Paul marry. Even if she didn't see it coming - and she should have - Chani's acceptance of the situation has its own consequences.

11:45 they explain in the first movie why they dont use guns. it's because of shields, but also because the guns are likely to bring sand worms i think. 16:10 they are showing you there that the hooks are used to pull open a flap on the worm that exposes holes that make the worms stay up above the surface. 16:20 the " as written" is because the prophecy says he will ride the biggest sand worm ever seen 19:13 yes they have a black sun that emits infra red turning everything black and white 28:00 the personality switch up is the " narrow way through" he see's he has to take charge. 31:00 the mountain was said in the first movie to protect the capital from sand worms, they blew it up to bring in the sand worms. they dont want to nuke the emporer because it won't get them into a power position it will make them the enemy of all the houses.

I've always loved Denis' movies, and I had always kind of noticed the fact that his movies always feel super deliberately paced and super kind of artsy-fartsy looking. In interviews leading up to Dune Part II, he talked a bunch about how, "I don't go to movies for dialog and lots of talking, I go for strong imagery." And just like that, all of his movies and his particular style 100% makes sense, and I could see that approach in all the movies he does.

“Come on bro! Stick it in!” -real thing said in this video

little thing I noticed but Dave Batista told his people to go control the other half. they pushed against him he was trying to get them to go to the other side and they wouldn't and if they did they would have found the fundamentalists. which would have changed the outcome a lot as Vlad would have then known and wouldsn't have looked incompetent to the Emporer.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

It’s also a callback to his character in the book who catches a few important tactical details that are dismissed by both the Baron and Feyd-Rautha. One of the things I love about Dune is that there really are no stupid characters. They are all highly intelligent.

3:48 The technology that makes them float, called repulsors, drives the worms crazy. So since the worm had already been called it made sense to use the repulsors. That is also why you will see balloons lifting spice harvesters. 35:55 And Chani Übers out

Guns have a limited use in this setting because of the shields. In the desert there is some use for them because the worms are driven to frenzy by the shields, but overall, close combat is the key to victory. And the sandworms can't dive when there's a rider on them because the rider uses the worm hooks to pull open its scales, and the worm can't let sand enter under them in significant quantities or it'll choke.

Hell yes I've been waiting for this one. Saw this in IMAX on acid and it was an EXPERIENCE

@3Kings_Industries

2 ай бұрын

OMG, epic!

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

That must have been *wild*.

The bene gesserit can only see the female side of their bloodline, it's explained by women not having a "y" chromosome so when Paul drank the holy water he "accessed" his full ancestry.

24:45 It is made clear in the books that the only way Paul could have stopped the jihad (called "holy war" in the film). It could only have happened when Paul and Jessica had first met Stilgar in the desert. To stop the jihad, Paul would have needed to kill the entire Fremen troop, his mother, and himself. As for the starving: Paul's visions tell him that the unintended consequences of allowing the Fremen to rampage uncontrolled through the Imperium on their Jihad will cause so much death, famine, etc that it could destroy most or all life in the Imperium.

An interesting thing about The Ordeal and the Water of Life is that, in the book, once the Reverend Mother changes its chemistry inside her body, catalyzing it into a non-lethal substance, the waiting Fremen gather a little bit of the changed Water from the Reverend Mother's mouth back into the original container of Water of Life (the container holds a lot more than the glass bottle shown in the film). The changed Water interacts with the original Water, catalyzing the whole batch, rendering it *all* non-lethal (in that container). The catalyzed Water of Life is then shared with the entire tribe at that particular seitch, where they then all have a fantastic, hallucinogenic-fueled ôrgý.

The reason why the reverend mother rituals are fatal for men is that men have to process more ancestral memories and information/pain than women do. Women can only view their female lineage (women only have x chromosomes) whereas men undergoing the trials are forced to confront both their female and male ancestry (men have x and Y chromosomes). This has been proven too traumatic for anyone previously tested and all who have tried have died. Paul can now see where the Bene Gesserit cannot which gives him an added prescience not available to anyone else.

@zoltanposfai3451

2 ай бұрын

Actually... in the first book, Reverend Mothers only inherit the memories of Reverend Mothers before them. (Referenced as Other Memories.) Paul is the first one to gain ancestral memories. This is one thing Frank Herbert changed between books, and not consistent across the series.

@houseofaction

2 ай бұрын

@@zoltanposfai3451 all bene gesserit can access ancestral memories but the reverend mothers inherit the memories of other reverend mothers whether they are related or not

I don’t understand how people are shocked by the ending. It was literally the plan all along for Paul to make a play for the throne. He made that very clear in the first movie.

@allthingsnerd.4484

2 ай бұрын

It’s not that the ending was a shock in what happened.. it was a shock if you had read the books as that angle really doesn’t play out until Dune Messiah. Denis jumped the gun a little bit with that reveal, but I think he was being pragmatic. He didn’t have a guarantee of getting to make Dune Messiah and he wanted to make sure the message of “beware charismatic leaders” was received.

@31:00 Paul sends the family atomics to blow up the Shield Wall that protects the city from the Worms. This Shield Wall was mentioned by Thufir Hawat in the first film. Blowing this up allows the Worms to penetrate the city and gives Paul the upper hand in the conflict.

In the book dune Messiah, Chani was internally conflicted the entire time, but stayed with paul. She was always fremen. This change is very welcome. It's a different branch on the same path.

The only omission that legitimately upset me is the omission of the guild in this. Only since they are the main catalyst to what comes after this. Also count fenring not being in the film kind of upset me to and hearing tim blake nelson played him just why, how could you take that away

@garethmitchell7723

2 ай бұрын

Tbh the guild is more background until messiah in the books, so I get their omission.

@garethmitchell7723

2 ай бұрын

Totally with you on Count Fenric missing though mmmm

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

The thing I find with Villeneuve is that even when I disagree with one of his choices, I understand the logic. I get why the Guild and Count Fenring were sidelined. That being said, I would drop fifty bucks right now, cash on the barrelhead, to see Tim Blake Nelson’s take on Count Fenring. He is a fantastic actor and he seems absolutely perfect for the role.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlonwas “Spacing Guild” ever even namedropped.

Let's go been waiting for this, And that's what she said about riding the worm 😂Muad-Dib will point the way. All hail Hanz Zimmer. Paul Muad-Dib is the main character but he is no hero.

Austin butler having his voice sounding like Stellan skarksgård was actually Austin’s idea to show how much the baron favours his character and stellan was both impressed and amused when he heard Austin speak he said that he heard his younger self

The editing choices for this one (as far as what scenes and moments to leave out) are truly insane

Never use lasgun with shield ! the two exploded....use sword and knife, or bullets.

Sad about your editing lately though, all the best parts are gone 😭 really wanted the "hand of God as my witness" scene and "long live the fighters"

@xhighone

2 ай бұрын

This is what they do to try and convince you to get on their Patreon. most Dune2 reactions are like 50-60 minutes on YT, but the 30-minute ones are just adverts for their Patreon.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@xhighoneI’m surprised that she has a Patreon because I don’t even recall her advertising it.

@xhighone

2 ай бұрын

@@davidw.2791 She has a very successful Patreon, and it's worth your time if you enjoy her personality and like watching reactions, obv. I subscribe here and there when there are a few movies and shows she's watched that I enjoy.

What makes Dune Part 1 and 2 so special, that others also try but rarely achieve, is this desire to be epic. The story is epic, the status Dune as a story has, especially for the SciFi genre is epic so the movie needs to be just as epic and Denis Villeneuve delivers this epicness with every shot, if the camerawork, light, sound and all the other part wouldn't work on the highest level it could drift off into being a little cringe, but this movie does it perfectly. Without wanting to shit on a different director and the team behind the camera, but Rebel Moon is the perfect example of what happens if you want to be epic but you just can't deliver it. Dune reminded me of Lord of the Rings in that way, these movies are epic, they want and need to be epic so bad and they just got it right.

About the worm ride! If you take another look, the hooks pull up these ridges of skin that reveal sensitive vents underneath. The sand irritates the area so the worm keeps that part above ground

My Dune, my Arrakis!

I remember seeing a lot of "white savior" comments when the trailer dropped for the first film. Oh, just wait😂

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

And even after the part one film came out there were Middle East casting representation complaints. Like, do middle eastern ppl in the west not get racially profiled enough already

What's crazy is that the Worm riding scene is all practical, they made a fake Worm top for the actor/stunt person to stand on then they pelted them with sand and a wind machine

9:40 It's not that it's forbidden to fear. It is a practical litany to overcome fear at a situation that requires to think, to make decisions and to act. This litany helps to think when you fear. The full version of mantra continues like this: "I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain". So, it's about getting rid of current fear by consciously facing it at the moment. In order to think straight in a hard situation.

@wackyvorlon

2 ай бұрын

The litany against fear is actually some solid psychology oddly enough.

@davidw.2791

2 ай бұрын

@@wackyvorlonthe Green Lantern Corps approves.