People are stupid. They think this place is uninhabitable, but they are excited about going to Mars.

@CarlKem

3 жыл бұрын

I have lived in worse places than that NM parcel.

@locomotives9217

3 жыл бұрын

I just hope Musk builds a big enough space ship to take them all there.

@evelynwaugh4053

3 жыл бұрын

@@locomotives9217 `Them'? Let's hope Musk saves a seat for himself!

@edwardsharpe6234

3 жыл бұрын

Now I am afraid my lot on Mars might have been a scam.

@bobdole27

3 жыл бұрын

lmao yeah, we can totally terraform mars, but places like these or Australia is simply too hard somehow

Re: Unpaved road. 75% of ALL roads in New Mexico are unpaved. As for "water was supposed to be found", we generally drill a well. Bring your check book.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! The amount of unpaved roads here in Vermont is also similar, though perhaps in slightly better condition. We actually live on a dirt road...

@edmundf.kuelliiispiritualn2963

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin maybe you should live in your camper instead. 😉

@johnganshow5536

3 жыл бұрын

Our well in Arizona is 700 feet deep, but there are wells twice that deep in the area..

@ichi_go

3 жыл бұрын

It's funny to me how MANY folks are interested in this land. I was WILLED some land from my G pa. He paid nearly nothing out of the Army in the 50's. Again, you get what you pay for. You can't expect not to have to put work into property like that to make it comfortable to live. To each their own.

@johnbob4545

3 жыл бұрын

@@ichi_go Nothing will make that land comfortable to live or safe.

Reminds me of a Chevy Chase movie. All they need is Aunt Edna strapped to the top of their truck....

I hate when people leave junk in nature!

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and so true!

@LuckyBaldwin777

3 жыл бұрын

That's because it's new and all that's made now is junk. I've found 150 year old piles of trash in the desert that were pretty interesting.

@flybyairplane3528

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin imagine scuba diving in a 35 foot dive & finding so much junk ! we all brought some bacteria to our live aboard, then they promised to always carry plastic bags to that site to give divers to use, bottles & cans were the bulk of it , cheers 🇦🇮🇺🇸

Your land Is... a gift from God. It's beautiful. Is... a gift from your family member... you paid absolutely nothing for it. Is... a commodity that you can liquidate for cash. Work with a local realtor. Or contact a couple of Land Wholesalers and see who will give you more

I learned through working and traveling in 35 nations that you look for the positive aspects of where you travel to, after first reading about it. Complaints based on your lack of knowledge is not becoming.

I would go to the county assessors office and have them map it out and to check for any documents on water rights. I live in New Mexico and most of these properties have water rights or mineral rights attached to them. You might have a gold mine and don't realize it.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We will be back someday (and not on the 4th of July) and will do some more research just for the fun of it. Like you say, you never know...

@jimsykes2745

3 жыл бұрын

Y'all have no business being out of the city.

@survivortechharold6575

3 жыл бұрын

you can own land without owning the mineral or owner rights.

@freedomforever1962

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimsykes2745 yeeeeaaaalllll🤪

@freedomforever1962

3 жыл бұрын

@@survivortechharold6575 yeah, and thats no fun for somebody else to go diggin up your abode for minerals!! or what ever.

Wow, the memories! My parents bought a lot during that same time frame. We moved from Indiana to Belen. My father was told he couldn't use the prints he had made to build our home on their lot. He was told a contractor of their choosing would have to be hired. We spent seven years in Belen. Never build on the land. Devastating! My mom worked many jobs, we rented an Adobe home from the Tabet family. One of the jobs my mom had was at the Speed Queen laundromat owned by R Tabet. I wish I could tell you we made a good life there. Worst years of my life. The Belen people are good and caring. We just couldn't stay. Thank you, thanks so much! Wow, the memories!

@alicehallam7949

3 жыл бұрын

Trex8ET Amazing story. Thanks for sharing it.

@jeanmartin6410

3 жыл бұрын

Valencia county: one of the most corrupt places in the states. D.C.has got nothing on Valencia county.

@tomortale2333

3 жыл бұрын

Anytime ''they'' tell u a contractor of ther choosing would have to be hired==BIG RED FLAG...nother words ther going to screw u some more/as in hire their okie relative to build [only thing okie ever built was outhouse]

@roberthernandez1289

3 жыл бұрын

My heart aches for you. Really

@kimperes5987

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to NM, one of the most corrupt states in the Union. 3rd richest state (oil, minerals and investment) and #2 in poverty. Hmmm...why is that?

Cement "structure" is abandoned concrete water tank to hold water that was hauled in or maybe used to be windmill there. You'll definitely aren't rural and you don't understand what you are looking at. May not be squatters. They probably bought a plot or plots off previous owners. This is not Suburbia

@MichaelSmith-dr9sf

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah a lot of people are into the living "off the grid" movement in the middle of desert. Even those people have youtube channels & many have rain water catchment or haul water. It dont rain often, but when it does.....2-3 inches can come in 30-min to an hour.

Two things of note from a SE NM oil hand... the roads shown in the video are in very good condition and finding a tree that size with no visible water means that water SHOULD be pretty shallow, so when you finally decide to homestead on your dream land, the water well won't be TOO expensive! Hah, fun video!

@imranhrizvi2003

3 жыл бұрын

I know some people who drilled a well in that area and hit water at only 150ft and another at 200ft. Where I have land in Arizona, wells are generally atleast 400ft

@KutWrite

2 жыл бұрын

Steve: First practical, non-condescending comment I've seen here. Good-o!

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

Expect 400 feet of well casing, pump may higher in well to start but the depth of casing must be as deep as possible. Still may run dry quickly.

@tomisnt

2 жыл бұрын

I agree my Homestead in Arizona has County Roads that are much much worse than these roads. I kind of like it it keeps the riffraff from coming out there

I don't think these two will make it out here in New Mexico.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. We'll stick to Vermont...

@dontmove518

3 жыл бұрын

Luv Subbin good.

@frankmorris4790

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin Perfect!

@butchkaminsky9470

3 жыл бұрын

Great place for a toxic dump!

@davidrox4591

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin Thanks for uploading, Vermont is beautiful but very different. I'll make it up there for a New England fall one of these days. Airstreams are wonderful, you may also enjoy the similarly designed Spartan trailers. Irony, I have a friend with a few acres around the same area, purchased much the same way. ✌

My great grandfather almost bought land where the Wilshire District is in Los Angeles for an orange grove. However he didn't want to pay the extra nickel an acre tax and bought land in Covina east of L.A. I sure wish he had bought the Wilshire District.

@D_Cali_Life

5 ай бұрын

Yeah he would be millionaire

I am the proud owner of 1 acre here. Grandma bought it in the 1960's. I pay $5 taxes every year to Valencia County. I can drive to about a quarter mile of the property then have to hike. Good place to hide out.

The first structure looks like a trough.

Belen hahaha, keep saying it It's the oddest saying I've ever heard. It's Ba-lynn

@graftedbranchhomestead

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ldenney2

2 жыл бұрын

I kept correcting them, too

@kimperes5987

2 жыл бұрын

@JubalFPV LOL buzzer, wrong. No it's not Ba-lynn. It's Be (as in bed minus the D) Len (as in Lenny). Be-Len. Belen, NM. You're welcome.

I am a seventy three year old male. I was in college when Horizon and Falls land developement company were all jailed for the scam deals that you guys were part of. Thank you did not make all your retirement plans were not all based upon you land. I know several who were. Good luck to you!!!! Wayne D. Woody

Much greener than I expected. That area with the tree is a dead giveaway that there is water close. I'd love to terraform the area to make the most of any precipitation.

The “squatters” could be legitimate off-gridders. There are people buying plots that have gone back to the state due to lack of tax payments, and some will try to buy adjacent acreage to expand. There is water, you’ll need to dig a well. I’m sorry your family was taken by that grifter, but it would be a neat place to park and explore the area. Petroglyphs and old ruins are in every direction. New Mexico has a rich history.

@aaronfreund2209

2 жыл бұрын

There is definitely water. Both my neighbors had wells. I hauled mine in but it's definitely down there.

Always amazing, the diversity of cultures in our great U.S.. Tourist for sure! The way you pronounced Belen had we laughing. It happens to all of us when we venture to other territories. Enjoyed your vid alot.

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the comment on our accidental mispronunciation of Belen - not all comments were as nice.

@lindas96

2 жыл бұрын

English language has no correlation between spelling words and pronunciation like french words which when you see the spelling you know exactly how it pronounces.

It’s amazing to fly over that country. There’s all kinds of subdivisions out in the middle of nowhere. People have been trashing New Mexico for years.

@rickreese5794

2 жыл бұрын

New messco been trashing people for years… FIFY

Scam? Squatters? Charging cow? Guns shots that you have to explain aren't aimed at you? You definitely are like babes in the woods. I'm currently in Alabama but own 30 acres in that area and am anxious to move. Looks and sounds like heaven to me. I hope that I can get my cult to come with me.

@alejandroaguilar4106

2 жыл бұрын

Nice, Future cult applicant at your service

@dennisdicicco6406

Жыл бұрын

Have fun drilling a well

@D_Cali_Life

5 ай бұрын

Cult ? Right I have 3 college girls that will go with me haha My own cult

WOW YOU OWN THAT LAND, THAT'S AWESOME

@randyweaver3617

3 жыл бұрын

It's an "Estate "

Looks like where you might meet Jessie and Walter White!

Nice video. Lots of people would consider your "worthless land" to be paradise. I would rather stay out there than the parking lot with electricity you stayed at. But we are all different, aren't we? I'm glad you held on to it.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the nice comment. It is beautiful with the mountains.

@faithrada

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is WATER. Without water life is not susstainable.

@uppitywhiteman6797

3 жыл бұрын

@@faithrada, You truck it in. I was raised on the Mexican border that looked just like that. There is always a contractor or two that will do it

@uppitywhiteman6797

3 жыл бұрын

I was raised on a ranch in an adobe hacienda. The land that looked just like that. I am like you Chris it looks like peace and quiet to me. However, she who must be obeyed does not feel the same way.

@johnclark6571

3 жыл бұрын

@@uppitywhiteman6797 Haha! Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue, eh? Yeah, my warden too.

Grandma always said “never buy a pig in a poke”. But they are still being sold and bought to this day.

I thank you for the excellent camera work and scenes. Put an rv park on your land like the one you were at.

@melvinrexwinkle1510

2 жыл бұрын

Why would someone pay to park there. When they could just be squatters on your neighbors land for free!

My wife’s parents bought land inn Leigh High Acres Florida. Turned out to be under water most of the year! Great Video! Thanks for Posting.

@fringestream990

2 жыл бұрын

The prices have been goin up for many of those lots in the past year in Lehigh.

I grew up in belen and graduated high school there. I went in the Navy and since then most of my friends have passed on and the place is infested with tweekers cooking meth there. You dont want to try to live there. Its just a frustration and anticlimatic. Shake the dust off and leave. You made it out and didnt loose any more there than a nights sleep.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for being the only person from New Mexico not to point out how badly I mispronounced Belen!

@rickrutledge9363

3 жыл бұрын

I lived in Belen in the 1990's, it wasn't that bad...

@johnbob4545

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I would never approach some weird encampment in the desert.

I once got ahold of a self-published book by an ex-journalist who bought some desert land in California at a tax auction. He built a little cabin out of wood pallets and used some car batteries for electricity. He made occasional runs to Blythe, Arizona, for groceries. He used the cabin to read books and enjoy the peace and quiet. Summers there were too hot for him, however. I bet the stargazing was fantastic.

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky for him it's bone dry, or he'd be big game mosquito hunting in his pallet palace.

@KD-nk3ht

2 жыл бұрын

Blythe is in California, Dense.

@prieten49

2 жыл бұрын

@@KD-nk3ht I stand corrected! California it is!

@davidb2206

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, all idyllic-sounding, until 99% of Americans try to live without air-conditioning and die off. Put your phones down.

@KD-nk3ht

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidb2206 All "Americans" and all non-"Americans" lived without a/c for millenia - until the advent of a/c, i.e. almost all of human history. Billions of individuals worldwide still do. Put down your crack pipe and your dildo, and try anew.

I live in Northern New Mexico and many pieces of land around me were sold to people out of state. They own arroyos, cliffs, but nothing build-able. The laws have since changed, so their wonderful bargain land, unless they bough multiple plots, is now totally unusable - Like they say "Let the buyer beware"!

i remember when someone tried to sell us a 5 acre "ranchette". It was a barren piece of desert.

Had to Laugh at the People that got Scammed buying Ground in the Red Desert in WY. Saw a ad for some of the Land on You Tube. Laughed at the Clowns that were trying to sell it. Cheers

Man that looks like where jackrabbits wear canteens.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and yes, there's not much out there...

I spent some time in that area two years ago. “Gunshots” literally EVERYONE CARRIES out there . The cows typically in my area were longhorns. Impressive.

@takinittotheheatandthestreet

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone does pack heat in NM .

@lrodriguez6691

3 жыл бұрын

@@takinittotheheatandthestreet good for NM...we are screwed in California. That is why I am moving to Arizona

@boldwarrior2196

2 жыл бұрын

NM is like eastern Oregon Land land land and livestock we are not in a city that's why? Lolo oh my people might be landlocked.. this guy's is soooo mad u can tell never been to NM rural lolol. More livestock and land than people

OMG the way you guys say Belen and Manzano. I was rolling on the floor😂

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. We did our best. 😄

I moved from downtown Chicago to rural New Mexico 13 years ago and would never leave! If you can work out living here it is paradise!

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We don't disagree. We loved our time in New Mexico.

@jamesfrederick99

2 жыл бұрын

I am from Illinois. Give some advice on living there.

@bltvd

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesfrederick99 do not buy any land without first seeing it in person and find out if it is feasible to have enough water and electricity to live there. If you have to haul/collect water or use solar energy that is a easier said than done. If you can work out power and water and can live in a place that does not really offer any stimulations other than the ones you create, you might enjoy it.

4th of July yeah.... everyone was at Elephant Butte Lake lol. Oh and its pronounced bel-in

@anthonyc1883

3 жыл бұрын

Not buhLINN like some else here said?

There's a ton of undeveloped "subdivisions" all around Albuquerque. My favorite kind of land!!! It does feel like the wild west!

Stumbled upon this entertaining video! Very fun! Thank you!

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the nice comment.

Greetings from NM. It’s actually pronounced Beh-lehn (Spanish for Bethlehem, which is actually Beit-Lechem in Hebrew, which means house of bread) the Be is pronounced like bet the len is pronounced like lend. However, most of the locals pronounce it as buh-len. The gunshots you heard are very common in that area, as many people go out there to practice shooting, sight in rifles, or just have some fun shooting at targets, bottles or whatever. The trash, unfortunately, is also very common because the local landfills are very restrictive on what they’ll accept. And as far as the “squatters” and “branch davidians,” haha, but no, that compound looking place, is probably the local rancher that owns most of that land. He’s a nice old guy that just likes to live simple.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I was bummed that I pronounced it wrong but will certainly do better next time. Also, I appreciate the additional information from a local.

@doneown503

2 жыл бұрын

2:19 - Yup , That's a FAIL!! , lol , nice to share the video , thx!

@mmckee58

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin it's easier to think of it as Bay Lane. Then, try to say the b as a b and a v at the same time. There! you sound like a real chicano! nice video!

@nightshade8958

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit about the landfills, what are you dumping toxic waste? The land fills will let you dump just about everything except metal or fluids. Take the metal to the scrap yard. There's no excuse to dump shit on peoples property. Drop it off in the land fill or scrapyard. Or dump it on your own fucking land. I'm fucking tired of people dumping shit on my land. Fuck off with your excuses for dumping shit on private property.

Oh man, thank you so much for sharing. I couldn't stop laughing!

Looks like a great place for solar farming. In SW Ga many of the small farms have given up trying to make a living farming, leashed their land to solar companies and gotten jobs. I do miss the “green” tho. BTW, I’ve never encountered an aggressive cow unless you had food for them. Enjoyed your video!

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the nice comment. You're right - this would be perfect for a solar farm.

@louispaparella5766

2 жыл бұрын

Friend of mine inherited a small herd of cattle. Got between a mama cow and her calf. Friend got a broken wrist out of it. An she learned a costly lesson!

looks like home. born in belen, grandparents lived in peralta, aunt and uncle in bosque farms. too hot out in the scrub, but it is nicer over by the rio grande. still miss it a little, but i haven't been back for 30 years. thanks for the trip down memory lane. happy travels

Burt Reynolds….. in “ The End “. I swear to god I thought there was a lake there. LoL 😂

There were Horizon developments that were genuine and played out well. One is called Paradise Hills and I own one of the first houses that went up around a golf course. Horizon properties in Rio Rancho are worth quite a bit now.

@archieletsyouknow5508

2 жыл бұрын

💯True. I still think that land might be worth something in the future

@gdfitzgibbon

2 жыл бұрын

But the golf course is dead. What’s next?

@cpnscarlet

2 жыл бұрын

@@gdfitzgibbon Which one? Paradise Hills Golf Course is doing OK. The course in Rio Rancho - not so much. The way things are going here, it'll be a housing development soon enough.

FYI: Penny's Diner is owned by a company that contracts with the Union Pacific Railroad to provide restaurants for their through freight train crews. You will find them in many towns where the crews rest away from their home terminal.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the additional information - I did not know that.

@jacintosalazar3719

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your videos you'll make a good team

@Fantazier1

Жыл бұрын

However, Belen is BNSF territory, not UP.

That was really fun to watch. Thanks for taking us along

Love New Mexico. Our family lived there when I was 8 - 14 years old. The wide open mesa and dirt roads were my playground for hiking, shooting my BB rifle, kicking my football, or just exploring. Love the Sandia mountains in the background. Land of Enchantment.

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We enjoyed New Mexico as well.

I've been considering buying rural land. Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Our advice? Look at it in person before you buy!

That concrete structure is a water trough, land scams still going on in Arizona, there are some areas in Colorado that look exactly like that high desert for sale

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the additional information on what that concrete thing was.

@wdgreen6612

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin When I saw that trough would have been when I would have started to look for a surface storage tank not far away out of rock or concrete. Beside that structure would have been a water well windmill, or at least the base. Probably a rock or plate over the well. String the well to see how deep and if water. That trough was probably on a gravity system so I would have looked upgrade from the trough for the well. Water is valuable and if your lot could have a well it could be very valuable, even with not very many people around. Those cows are getting water somewhere.

" to my niece, this will all be yours someday" 🤣🤣🤣

I lived in Roswell, NM back in the 40's and later went to school the in the late 50's. The alien thing is a big tourist attraction thing!

Had to snicker! My property is 1/4 of an acre outside of Taos. I "won" mine at our county fair in about 1968. I was putting my name in the box for the poodle! I went out there to the property a few years ago to see what I had. When I checked at the Court House to find where it was, she said "Oh, you're one of those!". After much searching, I did find where it is. Your road is much better than mine was! I was afraid if my car fell in the gulley down the middle, I may never be found again. LOLOL And I had some neighbors, in buses, houses made from sticks, metal houses, etc. Very few out there. No water, electricity or sewer. No city, county or state ordinances. The area looked alot like your's, but didn't have any dead cows around. ;0) I love telling people I have land in Taos, New Mexico! I have come across several other people that have land out there too.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for sharing your story. Bummed you didn't win the poodle...LOL

@desertdweller4316

3 жыл бұрын

We had 1/4 acre property in Los Taos Ranchos Estates that my aunt won at the county Fair in the 60's. My grandparents put it in their name as she was a minor. They later gave it to my folks. We went out to NM from California in 1968 and found out property on top of a Mesa. Locals said had to drill 1000' for a well, lol. We stayed the night at local postmaster's property in our camper and she told my parents to carry us kids at night, don't let them on the ground because of all the rattlesnakes! 🐍 $6/yr taxes. Only went there once. When my parents died I stopped paying the taxes and let property go. What a memory!

@JohnSmith-en2st

3 жыл бұрын

I checked that area out for land it cheap but didn't find much work

@JohnSmith-en2st

3 жыл бұрын

@@desertdweller4316 I was looking at the same estates almost buy one

@xixivespertine6959

2 жыл бұрын

I have .5 acres outside of Taos in Tres Piedras subdivision. I'm going to try and visit this summer. From the looks of Google maps coordinates, its not too far from highway 64, but navigating through the trees to get to the center seems daunting. I'm wondering if I can camp on it or if the rattlesnakes and other wildlife might run me away. I reckon lots of folks might have bought up property since the pandemic. Maybe the land will develop in the coming years.

It's not bad and quite typical of today's prices of similar properties within the state. I would build a nice cob house. Something small and self sustaining with native adobe, stone and wood. It could very well be a nice little get-away for you guys. Wish ya'll the best.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the nice comment. We often talk about how we could do something to make it work.

@missannthrope365

2 жыл бұрын

I own an acre there too and plan to build a cob house or Earthship. Nice to hear other people want to live sustainability and off grid too.

@awboat

2 жыл бұрын

We bought 5 acres at the south end of the Florida Mtns south of Deming. It has a tremendous view to the north, west and south, with the Florida's starting their steep climb about 2 miles east. If it weren't for some low hills about 50 miles away we probably could see the Chiricahua Mtns a 100 miles away. It has a unlivable house, a well and electricity to it. We planned on building an earthen type house for our retirement. Then, a magnesium mine is planned about 4 miles away at the base of the Florida's and the preferred Rt. 11 reroute is a couple of hundred yards to east.

I think its actually pretty cool. That's yours to park your camper and see the sky etc. cool video!

the title of your vide just had me laughing out loud for awhile. oh boy.. I needed that. okay now to actually watch it.

@LuvSubbin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Hopefully it provided some enjoyment.

Don't worry. If your luck is like mine, right after you pass on the plans to build a Disney/Vegas resort will go through and the dreaded New Mexico Land {now a spooky place indeed} will be worth $2mil/acre.

@LuvSubbin

4 жыл бұрын

Our family has made a pact to continue to pass this land on to generations of our family until it is finally worth something...

Iol reminds me of our Lots we bought..they never got developed but we did go camping..there once.

Funny, interesting, and you guys are obviously fun!

Lots of land scams out west. There was a bunch in northern Arizona where I bought my land. Just walked away from it after all of the government regulations just to build anything.

@alicehallam7949

3 жыл бұрын

What county was it located in? Was it in a subdivision?

We may inherit neighboring land. My parents bought land in the same area at the same time period for the same price. We have not been able to find the spot to this day. My dad ran across this video and shared it with me.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Just be aware that we paid an attorney about 3X what the land is worth to transfer the deed. Still worth it for the family stories...

My mother bought land out there. I went to see it in 1976, it looked exactly the same back then minus the illegal dumping, we sold it for $60.00 about20 years ago

I have family that bought raw land on purpose and what they did was build a Really Nice Ghost Town we had tons of fun camping, it looked like the old town's in western movie's .. the sidewalks were wood with a over hang wood roofs thay built long buildings and divided them into two or three rooms inside while camping we had the cantina the hotel had a few rooms and the bar the game room even an outhouse that was far away from every thing but just close enough to get to in a hurry .. we could climb up a latter and get on the roof it was flat and sometimes we slept there, I guess what all of this boils down to is make some lemon aid (I think thay bought the property back when every body thought California was going to fall into the ocean 😨) I honestly have some really good memories 😍

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your story.

@joycefuller4366

3 жыл бұрын

I think when you are sure you found it .. I think maybe you should build something because it shows intention of use (a shade cover ? 6ft x 6ft) and the county has to mark it and keep your land on a map with boundries / property lines it may help you in the long run .. ?

@lindas96

2 жыл бұрын

They predict that CA can break off when pole flip which may happen in spring 2023. But then nobody to buy the land again unless it will be slow coastal flooding first.

It pronunce Be Len (Belen)NM like eye lens Have fun in land of Enchantment nice people and delicious green chile

@unkindash586

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@beagrine2657

3 жыл бұрын

Best correct pronunciation. Hope you learned. Blessings

NM is something else. Up the Rio Grande we are planning the trail, which I call, Camino Milagro de La Luz

@RR-wd8uf

2 жыл бұрын

Go 2 Sleep

Belen in Spanish is Bethlehem in English.

Its so entertaining seeing people from back east in New Mexico.

@danieldixon4568

3 жыл бұрын

@ i didn't like how they tried to make New Mexico look bad and they cant even say the name of the town correctly that only has 5 letters in it. Talk about dumb. If their family got scammed that is not all of NMs fault. Also they would be smart to do homework. If so they would know that town is rough and has a high crime rate. But no it was a goal of theirs to make anyone selling land in NM to look like a scam. Smh. Please let them take thier salty asses back to new england.

@kathyc1315

3 жыл бұрын

@@danieldixon4568 Their goal was to see land that they inherited and had never seen before. That land could have been in any state, and it would still be awful. It was a scam, that is a fact. It was sold in 1968 as a residential community for future building. Clearly, that was never the intent then, now and the future. Btw, these two have lived around the world, including out West and the South. On another note, if you come to New England, I'm sure you will know exactly how to pronounce 'Worchester' and 'Peabody' -

@danieldixon4568

3 жыл бұрын

@@kathyc1315 well they must not know netflix and facebook and NBC studios have moved in near there and property value is going up and people are developing in the area. My family is originally from Pennsylvania and West Virginia and I went to college in Michigan. I know how it goes.....these 2 wouldn't make it a year here.....and its quite offensive how they portrayed New Mexico. If you get scammed its your own fault and scams happen everywhere not just in NM.

@frankchavez5703

3 ай бұрын

They want to come out from the east coast to meet Indians and be cowboys 🤠 You are born into the culture east coast total different life style Don't come to change the lifestyle of the southwest keep your politics,religion beliefs, in the east coast .

This was very amusing to me. I especially enjoyed the shout out to your niece. Luckily you didn’t the vehicle get stuck in the sand

Yeah, I inherited some land in AZ like that. The location is fantastic--right in the middle of everything you'd want to do out there: Colorado River, gambling in nearby Nevada, Hoover Dam, Las Vegas, Old Route 66, Oatman, Lake Mohave, Davis Dam and Lake Havasu, all within a short drive... but the roads are all washed out. I got to my five acres once with my front wheel drive, but the new google earth photos show that rains have recently deepened the washes. Need 4WD for sure now. Water is only 750 feet down though... lol

@LilyGazou

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds fun

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your story of the land in Arizona. Yours sounds like it has a little more potential than ours...

@desertdanblacksmith1394

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like where I live! Best kept secret in my opinion...I love it here in Golden Valley Az .....SKAL! I hate desert dumping....we collect trash and take it to the dump......dumped boats also!

Interesting. If you had the land since 1968 and haven't paid any of the property tax, you could have lost the title to your land at a tax auction. I became curious about whether you still have clear title, but that was never shown in the video. I expect it is very likely it is no longer your land (if it ever was). The NM counties have tax auctions periodically and land with unpaid taxes is sold to the highest bidder.

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We have paid taxes every year since 1968 - present. In fact, when my dad died we paid a lawyer in New Mexico to transfer the deed for $600.00. For land worth $167...

@kathyc1315

2 жыл бұрын

Do you really think they’d go thru all of this if the land was not theirs? I co-pay taxes and please be respectful of my parents will and intent for us to keep this land in the family

@dangurtler7177

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuvSubbin That is good, maybe it will worth something with inflation.

The driftwood was interesting to me as I don't see that everyday. I learned some things from this video. Thank you for sharing it. I was paying on some similar property in NM about 20 years ago and I let it go after a few months. It was ebay special. GPS can end up taking you anywhere. My trucker GPS has taken me to a cornfield before. I bet you get in some situations having to get turned around with the trailer.

There’s a similar one in far South east AZ. Called “Cochise college park”. It was advertised as “within shouting distance of the Grand Canyon!” But in reality? It’s all worthless desert land with no services and the Grand Canyon is a 7 hour drive away.

Hello from Belen,New Mexico! My ex stills lives in the foothills about 20-30 miles north of your property. His is in the Valley Improvement Association "development" land in the foothills,bordering on the National Forest Land.... That property is selling( if you can find it) for $500-1000 acre now. The land in the valley is about $200 acre...VIA went bust in the mid 90's ,but did create two developments that are quite large now. Meadowbrook Estates (400-500 homes)and Rio Communities,now a city of a few thousand homes.... both are near the river. I lived out there ,totally off grid with my ex for 10 years( 97-07). I just returned to Valencia county in May and today i went out to the west of Camino Del Llano and saw the Corazon RV park and Penny's Diner for the 1st time... unfortunately you can't dine in right now and that is the best part! ps there is no religious compound out there.. About 5-6 hundred homes are spread out on that stretch from the railroad tracks south of Rio Grande Estates to Los Lunas. Several are micro farms... i think that is what you saw.. PPS i am a transplanted Baltimore Native,here since 1982.... and the culture shock was about like yours LOL

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for sharing your story. We loved the view of the mountains. Hopefully the pandemic will end and people can dine at Penny's because it was awesome!

@evelynwaugh4053

3 жыл бұрын

Have you folks been paying your county property taxes?

@wendeekomen5311

3 жыл бұрын

@@evelynwaugh4053 I am sure he is still paying them, he lives there.. I know there is a lot of abandoned land out there

@wendeekomen5311

3 жыл бұрын

@ I moved to New Mexico 38 years ago, just to get out of Maryland. I have moved around the Abq area since. Belen is still rural...

1970-1972 I went to high school and lived nearby in Rio Grande valley on edge of this vast expanse. My buddies and I would ride motorcycles all around out there. I was young and didn’t understand why they had scraped a vast grid of roads in middle of nowhere. Those roads scarred an otherwise pristine landscape that went from the valley all the way to the mountains. There are several ancient Pueblo ruins and a few springs out there. The area is nearly as big as the whole city of Albuquerque, and you can easily imagine from this land what the Albuquerque landscape was like before the city boomed over the prairie in the 50s and 60s. I’ve moved and worked all around the world since then, but I occasionally return to the area. Unfortunately those lands eventually became a vast dump as you can partially see in the video. There also use to be a beautiful remote campground at foot of the mountains that became completely trashed out as the rest of those once beautiful lands have become. To me it’s depressing to see what has happened in such a short time.

@SuperDave-vj9en

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exactly what you said in your post is what happened to Nevada. Nevada was absolutely pristine until the late 1980’s. That’s when half of California moved in, destroying our state

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your story. It is really beautiful and it is indeed sad that it is just a wasteland no with no useful purpose.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@talusranch990

2 жыл бұрын

It's a libtard state, what do you expect

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

Said the kid riding a motorcycle on the pristine yadda ya

Thank you for showing this I’m a little late but I’ve been watching videos on land and I have not seen anyone show their property thank you for this helps me about my decision😻

After I left New Mexico, where I had lived on five acres in an adobe house of my own design outside of Las Vegas (yes, the "original" Las Vegas) all of the wells in the valley ran dry because the city drained the aquifer. I missed New Mexico so much & thought it would make me feel better if I owned a wee bit of land there even though I would never build on it. It was a purely psychological need. So I bought four adjoining .25 acre lots thinking that if my kids ever wanted to sell it an acre would have more appeal than a smaller piece. I knew what I was getting; nobody scammed me. It is in a part of the Chihuahuan Desert. Many people regard it as worthless desert land, and I suppose it might be, depending on one's idea of worthless. But the biodiversity there is astonishingly greater than in many areas that appear to be much richer. Some of us intend to keep the land for its preservation until someone decides to "pave paradise and put in a parking lot." Keeping it wild when so much beautiful land is being lost to development. Let the snakes, coyotes, horned frogs, lizards, roadrunners & magpies run free. Let the cactus bloom. Too bad about the dumping, though. It does look like something out of a scene from Breaking Bad. Here's a link to some info about the portion called Rio Del Oro where mine is located. It says nothing about future development, the supposed plan of old which has been abandoned. All of these lots are sold. classiccountryland.com/properties/new-mexico-land-for-sale/rio-del-oro

Awesome. I have the same story. My parents bought 7 acres outside of Alamosa, CO. The only difference... the actually SAW the land before they bought it. Our land looks just like your place. My parents are the same people who passed on a chance to by a lot in the center of Vail Village (Colorado) in the late 60's for a few thousand dollars. 🥺 I'm actually shocked I survived my childhood. Your video does make want to go back and find our family property, might be an adventure. I remember The Great Sand Dunes National Park was nearby. Thanks for the fun video. I laughed a lot.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your story. If possible, I would recommend exactly what you say and make an adventure out of finding it!

@OldPongGeezer

3 жыл бұрын

Totally possible, but... Alamosa. I have a hard enough time getting viewers to my channel! 🤪

@ripvanrevs

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldPongGeezer I went to Adams State for a year in 1983/84. One of the coldest winters ever there. -42F one morning. Very hard to get out of the valley in the winter. Went back to Ohio to finish college.

@bonniesteel1269

Жыл бұрын

@@OldPongGeezer my daughter and i just backed out of buying ten acres in alamosa because we couldn't get the guy to go pick up the down payment we sent him. we wonder if we were being scammed. the land is cheap, but all scrub brush, just like this. not sure if we made the right decision.

For all those commenting on how 'awful' these people are - have you read the story that the family kept the land for 40+ years, and made sure the land was paid for (taxes) to kept it in the family, despite it being uninhabitable?

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

Some, with faith, move mountains. You are one of the good ones to note sacrifice. May mercy follow you.

One of my favorites places to eat! Cinnamon rolls to die for!!!!!

we looked at several lots there in rio grande estates outside belen. we lived for many years in a very similar situation up in taos county at 8000 feet above sea level (tres piedras estates), and were looking for super cheap off-grid land with a longer growing season. we found it beautiful, but discovered there were several potential projects planned that would ruin the remote life for us; solar farms, casinos, etc. i miss new mexico something fierce, particularly northern nm.

Someone mentioned drilling a well and solar. Solar would work but to drill it well will cost over $20K. Water is very far down. I lived in Belen and was thinking of buying because it was cheap and I was sick of renting. I worked at Lowe's in Los Lunas (10 miles North) where I talked with a driller. He gave me that price.

@Braveheart.22

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that info..👍

@davidb2206

2 жыл бұрын

Your info is over a year ago or more. Today it would start at around $50,000. I checked this for some desert land, too. The communist Chinese (of the CCP) own most all of the water rights in SE Arizona now through buying a huge farm. The few Americans who will be able to survive there are out of luck.

@jenniferpagliaro3535

2 жыл бұрын

I bought an acre in Belen NM ( Rio Grande Estates) last year don't know what it looks

For certain your $5/yrr l2 acres of NM land is a lot lot nicer as in immensely more beautiful spot to plop your rig than that $37 a night scam. Be thankful.

@BuzzyStreet

3 жыл бұрын

But first, you would have to carve a road out to your land. The cost of that plus maintenance would probably cover your tie-down fees for a 5 years.

@deborahsimpson4968

3 жыл бұрын

@@BuzzyStreet people don't buy landlocked 12 acre that's inaccessible. We all have vehicles built to boondock. We always pull off the road to boondock. Road is unnecessary because if it is landlocked then would need to fight for access

Interesting… we stopped at Loves in Belen during our trip from Las Cruces to Santa Fe. Small world. :-)

So, how much do you want for your 2 acres? I could definitely make something of it.

@sandramack1843

3 жыл бұрын

How - well 20K, electric to property another 10K.

@jimoconnor6382

3 жыл бұрын

30k for well in Pie Town!!! 12k in Port Charlotte

That mess of driftwood and dead cow is probably from a flash flood during monsoons. Common site in desert. I’ve lived in Arizona since 1970. Happens in a lot of areas that are barren.

My Grandfather bought a similar plot in the 50s in the middle of AZ. Google maps shows all the lots subdivided and my Dad and I were able to locate it. We pay $12 a year in property tax, and my Dad gets offers to buy it, for about $75. Not sure what my Grandfather paid but I will probably inherit it :-)

@idahopotato5837

2 жыл бұрын

Where is it? We are looking for a lot. County and parcel #.....

@exbioman

8 ай бұрын

Land west of Painted Desert. Price doubled since Covid. So has housing.

I just bought some land outside of Deming, NM. It was once a development that went belly up in the 90's. I checked out the property and there are other people living in the area, but it has no utilities.

I'm giving you a thumbs up just for fitting "thwarted" into your dialog!

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I've been told that my use of "caddywampus" is also well done...

I felt the same way when walking to around through the Arizona desert. I wouldn't walk alone through the dirt for a long time

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

I see you were born at night. At least it wasn't last night.

That's just one of many land scam deals foisted on people in the 60s and 80s. You are just one out of thousands of people caught up in them. I was in Black Forest (near Colorado Springs) for several years and people would often charter me to fly them over their land in the San Luis valley (desert land north of Alamosa, Colorado). I had a joke answer I'd give when people asked how far to water; "about six miles, into town or down". A consortium owned the water rights for all water less than 800 feet below the surface which included water falling on it from the rain.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I'll have to remember that water joke.

@ripppking

2 жыл бұрын

so youre telling me theres companies that buy huge land losts, and sell them while still owning the mineral and water rights after sold???

@waltersistrunk4200

2 жыл бұрын

@@ripppking Not a Consortium. Lawyers. Both in and out of the legislature. This is the way Democrat’s love the common man.

@louispaparella5766

2 жыл бұрын

@@ripppking Yep...you own only the "surface estate" and maybe "air rights"! Read every word of every piece of paper involved that you sign!!!

My kids live in NM... I tried, but no thanks. In the first 2 weeks, my truck was stolen, and then within a few months both my daughters and sons houses were broken into, and my daughters car. Recently, another KZreadr driving through Belen had his RV riddled with bullets. I thought about buying land out that way for a camp spot when I visit the kids, but then I remembered I'd like to be alive to see my grand children grown up. All that New Mexico has going for it, are the sunsets and great food. Nice video. New sub here.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We will agree with you totally on the food and views. We are so sorry that the other aspects are not as nice.

@desert_moon

2 жыл бұрын

I live near Belen (it isn't pronounced Bell-en, but Beh-LEN, like bed w/o the d). I don't go into remote areas here without a firearm. Just sayin'.

Great video! I think we would have kept the land also. Looks like a nice place to put up some solar and bring in a water tank.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! It's actually a beautiful location (minus the trash).

This is too funny. I lived in Los Lunas, NM 1982-2014. My. dear friend and neighbor, Georgia Sinister was County Treasurer and hired me as a temporary to help process all this $5.00 property tax payments during property tax season. Stacks and stacks and stacks of $5.00 payments, six of us processing for weeks. I realized it was a scam because my father had gotten involved in some swamp land in Florida, Lehigh Acres. His sunshine retirement dream, northern Indiana winters can be brutal. My brother and I inherited that and paid taxes which were more, $300(Floria boom) which crashed 2007. I left or escaped NM finally, I missed Water falling from sky desperately for my last 15 years there, lol. Years of droughts, fire danger, endless perfect beautiful blue skies was like eating too much chocolate. But the native born folks there absolutely love their gorgeous state and most do not need to travel anywhere else for enjoyment. And their history goes back to before the pilgrims landed. They are good people, hard working, real cowboys, caring family folks, kind, generous, and love their culture and overall happy. New Mexico is not like Texas or Arizona. As the saying goes Arizona blows and Texas sucks, oops that is about the wind, lol.

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your story. We very much enjoyed our stay in New Mexico. Funny, the tax bill actually comes out to $4.73 but they tack on $0.27 "Misc. Fee" to round things up to an even $5.00.

@johnbob4545

3 жыл бұрын

He missed out. 150k people live in Lehigh Acres, FL.

@anthonyc1883

3 жыл бұрын

lol "Georgia Sinister" that's a great name. Like a good friend of mine, Pete Bludgen.

@brucemarmy8500

2 жыл бұрын

Diana Lesueur, your invitation to this land of enchantment will never expire.

They are shooting at you, because you are on their land 😂😂😂😂

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! If they were shooting at us, they were really bad marksman...

@johnbob4545

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like BLM land, free range.

I just found this video…my grandmother also purchased land in the 60’s from the same sales pitch. I made a similar pilgrimage to see the “land” and also have a niece that will be inheriting it. Maybe they will be neighbors one day😂

@LuvSubbin

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and the fun comment. Maybe our nieces will indeed be neighbors some day...

As my grandpa used to say..."Well...there you go."

My family also has 4 acres there in the Rio Grande Estates. I’ve been wondering about it and wanted to see it up close, Satellite view only gets me so close. It might be nice to be out there with that Mountain View every day.?

@LuvSubbin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and we're glad our video gave you a glimpse of what your land looks like. We agree, the mountains are beautiful. It's just too bad that this was never developed.

@JamesRKing72

3 жыл бұрын

Luv Subbin well it definitely would be an off grid earth bag tiny home situation to start with. Lol.

Hi I also bought 6 lots in this area back in early 2000's .if your have an acre you can drill a well , septic and go solar for which NM is know for .

@trentonpaul598

3 жыл бұрын

What they paid for that Airstream could build out there. I grew up in the desert and loved it.

@vlonevlone2319

3 жыл бұрын

That cost a small fortune!!

@sandramack1843

3 жыл бұрын

@@vlonevlone2319 Agree - well 20K

@tranger4579

3 жыл бұрын

Hello. I'm looking for land in NM. I basically want several acres that I can prop up a shack, outhouse, deer blind and live on it without any to very minor restrictions. Any advice. I want to live an isolated life.

@youtubecensorspeace1874

2 жыл бұрын

Always check the zoning laws so you do not look like the fools in the video or the comenters that generalize all land and clearly do not have a clue. No matter what state your land is in you need to know your zoning laws.

People generally buy things because they are cheap, but then they eventually decide that they are never going to live there, and finally end up selling for a loss what they thought at the time was a great deal, it's always the same

@davidb2206

2 жыл бұрын

That's how the "developers" (i.e., scammers) make their money. Off a new sucker born every minute.

I think that the land in that area of New Mexico is beautiful.

@LuvSubbin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! It probably didn't come across as much as it should but we agree that the area is beautiful.