First Time Sanding and Using Body Filler Over Epoxy Primer - DIY Body Work
There were a lot of firsts in today's video! We block sanded our first layers of epoxy primer, used A LOT of body filler, tried using a hammer and dolly for the first time, and did SO MUCH SANDING!! Finally we got two more layers of epoxy rolled on, and this was just for the HOOD and TRUNK!! There will be a lot more to come for the rest of the car, but we definitely learned why they call it body WORK!
Special thanks to @eastwoodco for sending the OptiFlow Roll-On Primer System and if you're interested in it or any of the other products we used in this episode, check out the links below:
Products Used:
OptiFlow Primers:
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PRE Painting Prep:
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Body Filler:
www.eastwood.com/eastwood-con...
The Key to Metal Bumping:
www.eastwood.com/key-to-metal...
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Incredible to see a father and daughter working together so well! The production quality for your video seems very professional. Its very much like watching a TV show on TLC. Your parents must be very proud to have a daughter with such patience, drive and ambition! Well done!
Wish I had a dollar for every time I thought to myself "this will be the last batch of filler or the last coat of primer"! The closer you get to being finished the more things you find to fix it seems but the hard work will pay off when you make it shiny! Body work for me was a great lesson in learning patience! Great job you guys!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
😂Yes! Thank you for the encouragement!
The most amazing part of this whole channel is watching her confidence go through the roof! She is building skills and learning tons of life lessons along the way. Keep it up!
I love that you’re not afraid to try, ANYTHING!
Most of a good paint job is the prep it's worth all the effort . Can't wait to see it painted 👍
It is nice to see you and your Dad working on this project. Lots of memories for sure.......
@ElliesGarage
Жыл бұрын
Yes! So many memories and more coming!
My Dear Ellie.... Welcome to Body *WORK!!!!* 😖 It's never been easy, at least to do it RIGHT. 98% of a great Paint Job is Preparation. Carl is going to look SO GOOD!! 😊👍👍💯 Young Lady (and I'm 57 - every woman under 35 is a "young Lady"! LOL), since getting Carl, you have quickly learned many hardcore advanced Automotive Skills. FTW!! And, you've had your Dad by your side every step of the way. That's PRICELESS! ..... I've still never heard of ROLL-ON Epoxy Primer. I'm thinking it's self levelling, which is why it actually works. I'm so excited for you two!!
I am so proud of you two. Bringing back memories of my body work projects over the years. Excellent work
Your episodes STARTED at a high standard! Now, your episodes are even closer to PERFECTION. Just like the bodywork process you've demonstrated, you continue to do the right thing and improve, improve, improve! Well done, you two!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much! That's so nice of you. Thanks!!!
So nice to see a daughter and dad working on cars!!!!great job. Good for you....god bless. Love the content
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
Good job Ellie. Glad you guys figured out to use the 80 grit to rough block your filler. 180 and 220 just makes for more work. My arms hurt watching you guys use the fine stuff.
This is the step that makes all the difference.
I bet dads very proud of his little girl getting stuck in to the hard work , well done dad and Ellie it’s a lot work but it’ll be well worth it you wait and see 👍
Glad to see that you still have interest in doing all the work and haven't givin' up. And yes Body work is hard work , time consuming and dirty. You will dirty up lots of clothes every time you do that. The guide coat is very helpful when sanding , but it doesn't have to be sprayed on heavy , just light enough to cover the area, Just like you did after the first filler application on the trunk lid. Otherwise you're doing great . Also don't stress about the deadline . This stage in the paint work is the most critical and don't rush it. If there are imperfections in the primer and filler they will show up in the paint really bad and you gonna hate it. Then you'll have to start all over and redo everything and that is expensive. If you get Carl all in primer that will be good enough to go the Falcon nationals and listed as a WORK IN PROGRESS. Thanks for the card and sticker. Arrived today.
Awesome family team work!💪🏽
Looking sweet, cant wait for the finished product
congrats to both of them. Doing great work and making it a family thing is very nice!
Wow you guys rock. What great teamwork. You are truly blessed to have a wonderful loving dad.
My absolute favorite KZread channel! I look forward to a new update each week. I kind of feel invested in the outcome. 30ish years of working on cars, I've never done serious body work, and I'm guessing a lot of us haven't. We're learning right along with you. Thanks for sticking with it. I'm anxious to see it completed, and I'll be sad if you don't find a way to keep this going.
I am getting ready to restore an old truck of mine for my son who will be driving next year. I am thinking of using the roll on kit from Eastwood as you did. Awesome to see you working with your dad on your project and making memories. Love how your videos are real time and so transparent even with the mishaps, thanks for making them.
I love working with my kids! U all are a great team!
Great job Matt and Ellie! It's nice to see Carl getting his body in shape :) and it's great to see our air blow gun is action!
You guys are doing a great job! I know it's a lot of work to get it right, but you'll be pleased with the way it turns out. I'm going to get a little deep here, and off topic..... Ellie, no matter what life brings you, don't ever get rid of this car. Even if you get married, have kids, have a career, etc, leave it parked in a garage and save it. One day you'll be glad you did. It will always bring back all these memories. If you sell it because you don't think it fits your life now, you'll be sorry you did later. If you keep it, you'll be able to go get it, get it running, and relive all the fun (and not so fun LOL) memories and it'll be awesome. Just no matter what life brings you, do your best to keep the car. Keep on keeping on and live your best life! Be safe!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the encouragement! And not to worry, sir, I'll never sell Carl. Especially after getting great advice like yours. Thank you again!!
Good work. One more step forward. Keep it up.
You are a great master of the trade, congratulations, greetings from Guatemala.
You guys are rockin these videos.... Keep up the great work Ellie. Your hands on work is enjoyable to watch and restorers like you are what keeps the hobby going strong.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Super awesome video and work as a father who also builds cars nothing I enjoy more then doing it with my kids....side note I owned a 64 falcon and miss that car everyday you have and awesome project you should be proud
First off this is the first time I’ve seen your videos, now I have been doing body work and painting for 30 years been doing it professionally for 25 years and you don’t sand like a first timer you sand better than some preppers that I have worked with. Dad be proud of your daughter she is awesome. If I was close to you I would love to help paint your car and give you some pointers on painting. Keep up the good job 👍
Awsome honey glad to see you getting too all aspect of body work
Great job my friends!!!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
I LOVE THIS! There is hope for the next generation thanks to some great parenting!..... and eastwood.😉
Sanding, sanding, and more sanding! Keep up the good work, you’ll get there!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Ugh, my arms are aching for you guys! But I love that you're so methodically approaching each and every step of your restoration. It will make the final product all the more incredible! 😍
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we were definitely sore. Thank you!!
I am carpainter and sanding really is hard,i am glad that people are foing something these days,i mean something else than watching phone or tv.fine also is getting this old propaply 6 cylinder in use and road again.
Great watching you and your dad working together. When you're sanding hoods, roofs, and decklids, avoid pressing too hard, the metal deflects, you sand the filler away, then the metal springs back up around it creating a low spot
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and thank you for the tip. We'll watch out for that. 😉
First let me say congratulations on tackling this project. You are a special young lady. Secondly, I did auto body restoration for 20 years, a quick tip for the guide coat…try not to get “lines” when applying it…just dust it on as evenly as possible. The “lines” area has more paint then the surrounding area making you need to sand off more than is actually needed to level the primer. Keep up the great work.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for the great tip!!
Hey Dad that's a neat thing that you're teaching that young lady and it's a lost art that nobody seems to know how to do anymore these days and think of the time you're spending together that's wonderful
@geoffreymills9932
3 жыл бұрын
It's a lost art because it involves physical labor, not many of the younger generation are willing to put in that much effort for anything,
After I finished doing body work and a paint job on my first car,I saw a number of spots that I should have paid more attention to! I felt much better after I went to an area car show and saw the work of other people. Yet there was some really nice work done too. Many good comments here, keep up the great work!
What a team!!
Spraying your body filler with guidecoat before sanding it really helps a lot.. keep up the good work !!!
Great video! 👍
Body work is 99% prep. and 1% paint. But wait there's more! once you paint you get to sand sand sand some more. The best part is when all is done you have the feeling of pride that you did this all with you own hands :o)
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Paint sanding?! I don't know if I want to find out. Ha! Thank you for the encouragement!!
@steamy1225
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage Yes , paint sanding. That is done usually wet with 1500 grit paper to smooth out the paint or clear coat to remove orange peel created by the spraying of the final coat. Then buff it out with a polisher with wool pad and then foam pad and polishing compound. But that is for a later video . Don't worry about it now.
I feel your pain! I am in the exact same place on my restoration.. I don't known if you have ever seen the Karate Kid movie but this process reminds me of the part where he learns his karate moves by putting wax on, and then taking wax off, a lot full of cars. The hood and trunk lid look marvelous, keep up the great work!
Love the channel. Working on a project truck with my own daughter. Replacing the AC system next for our c1500. Great video and especially appreciate your brief explanations throughout. 👍
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! Good luck on your project together!!
Hello Carl, Ellie, and Dad. I at 53 have just started restoring my first of 3 1950s cars. Starting with a 1958 Ford Fairlane 500. I am watching with great interest and appreciate your journey. I was thinking about a body guy but now am Going to do it myself. Thank you John Lewis Warrenton Mo "My car doesn't have a name yet"
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
That's so cool, Mr. Lewis! Thank you for the encouragement and good luck with your projects!
I think it's great that you're attempting to do this I have a body shop and I have two daughters that I taught how to do body work and what you're doing is good
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's so cool to hear about your daughters and always good to hear from someone who knows that we're at least going in the right direction. Thank you again!!!
Up to the same step with my corolla! Always good to refresh the brain with a good video on the steps to come. Ps.. super jealous of your guys garage! Mine sux! 🤣
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your project!!
Great video, thank you
I feel the sanding blues for ya!! I prefer the powder guide coat cheaper and covers a lot better... I did 6 coats of high build primer on my buggy block sanding in between coats to get it perfect! Keep it up!!
Dry guide is way easier to work with. I use it to train new people in our sanding booth regularly. But the spray guide works well too.
Good work! Have spent the last 5 months doing the same thing to a mates 65 gt cortina. Deffinately a lot of work, but the results are worth it.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 👍
When I was doing my Falcon back in the seventies I made lots of mistakes due to being in a hurry to get it done but again paint and filler products have come a long way since 1973-1974, take your time and don't get discouraged when things don't go as planned you're doing a great job, certainly better than I did then😁
@ElliesGarage
2 жыл бұрын
I love hearing stories of other people's Falcons!! Thank you for sharing!!
here is something i learned from my days past with body work, when you at your final sand ie 220 350 grit or even 500 wet, use a sponge behind the sand paper so your fingers and or high spots in your palm are not pushing down more then the rest. you will get a more even sand at the wet sanding stage before last wash and paint.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip! Thanks!!
@tcloud69
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage Your welcome, glad i could help. i am a fan of your youtube for about 6 months now. and wish you lost of luck in on your car restoration. :D
Perfection takes time and effort you will get there you cannot make an omlette without cracking a few eggs 👍👍👍👍👍
You go girl!! I think they call it body work is 'cause it's a full body workout! Doing a great job!! Something I did/am doing on my project is using the shop vac for the dust more than blowing it off. Tip I got from Kevin Tetz. You can use black primer for a guide coat too! I make myself notes on the panels with colored chalk from the dollar tree store. Is there a lot of texture in the rolled on primer? I am old school and spray everything. KEEP GOING!! Have a primer blocking party, pizzas and sodas will draw the little boys like flies. If you can, try the polyester primer. Like spray on filler. Sands super easy and so smooooth and "laser" straight and flat!
It is hard work most people have no idea. Good job. I learned first I would have started out with 180 instead of 220 For first block. And use a paper towel or a glove you can feel low or high spots alot better than a bear hand. Good luck 👍
Hey, great job.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
When applying your guide coat its just a light mist and use long strokes when sanding the filler , its gonna look awesome
Great video ..... you could do like u usually do guide coat filler .. long dura block with 80, then 180 ....... little tip
LIKE UR DIGITAL DASH ELLIE!!!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@snakeboren4814
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage 👍 WELCOME!!
Cool video looks good to me .
Ты такая умничка. Папа ,похоже, воспитывает по мужски. Здорово. Приятно посмотреть и поучиться. Хорошей работы и хорошего настроения. Спасибо.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Большое спасибо!
Nice job, little advice use a shop vac instead of compressed air to keep dust down
@ElliesGarage
2 жыл бұрын
YES! We'll definitely do that next time!
Dynamic Duo
In the future on the small high spots you did on the hood you can use a body spoon or slapping spoon
where did all the body filler dust go could of got a cheap vacume but great video father daughter love these old fords
You got a good workout 💪
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
To save a little money, clean your 36 grit / 80 grit with a folded metal coat hanger. You will surprised at how much further it stands without leaving scratches. Guide coat can be very cheap as you buy Flat Black from Home Depot for $1.68 a can or less. Never use gloss paint, it clogs the paper when dry. It is satisfying to do body and paint work, but one thing is for sure the rest of your life!!! You will never look at another car or truck with a nice paint job the same way. Also, you will choose parking spots further from the normal crowd the dings the car doors, an never think twice about putting a blue ding in your door or fender. Best of luck.
Body work is definitely work. Might be a little late, but I always find if I wear some latex gloves it helps with finding those low and high spots. Seems counter intuitive but it works for me, if you ever need to do more bodywork might be worth a try to see if it helps.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we've heard that before but keep forgetting to do it. Thank you for that reminder!
To cut some of the cost you can also buy cheap flat black no name spray paint from the dollar store But all in all good job
I am no expert just sharing what I did. I used filler for my low spots and focused just there. Guide coat once that one spot was done. Then moved to next low spot on that panel. Once all low spots on panel were filled and level to surrounding metal inthen did a glaze coat over entire panel. Not sure if I saved time doing it this way but I know I had less repeats. So for what it's worth may want to try that next time
So many debates over this. Just got off the phone with Tamco they said no filler on bare metal creates heat then condensation on metal and to put over there DTM high build 5310. I do not need epoxy if car is inside all the time it will save you a lot of money just block and top coat your done and still have epoxy properties in the DTM.
@ElliesGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we saw lots of opinions going different directions, but we ended up going with Eastwood's instructions which sound a lot like that as well--start with epoxy, filler, epoxy, then on to urethane.
@Supanova70
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage Just don`t put w&g remover on that epoxy. Trust me...2 weeks later i did that and pulled that epoxy off to metal. What HB did you use over that?
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@Paulie1232
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations your prize is NOTHING
@zacharyo_connor
3 жыл бұрын
#garagegang
Few of those litleones can somrtimes leave under the primer and it will fil those.but its need years on get that sense what yuo can leave under primer.i just find yuor channel and i think i see how this project go on.
Just subscribed ..... what epoxy are you using and how long do you wait till you block? Also after epoxy blocked is it streigt over with high build ? What’s blocked with thanks
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! We're using Eastwood's OptiFlow primers. With their epoxy, they said to wait at least 4 days before we start sanding. After we finish with our epoxy layers, we'll be rolling on about 3-4 coats of their urethane primer before doing final block sanding.
@richreece8840
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage hi have they Eastwood stated you use was it 120 to block with ? Or 180 ....thanks
Ellie always use guide coat
Watching your video made my knees hurt, a full restoration type paint job wears your knees out at about 3x the normal rate, every old body guy I know has bad knees or knee replacments. Great job though, you guys are doing great!
@ElliesGarage
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the encouragement!!
I just get the cheap $0.89 flat black from the dollar store that's what I use for my diet coke
Really should use a guide coat
It's alot of work but just a helpful tip you will find out over time skim coating whole panels will work out in the best all you are doing is the same thing primer would but with a higher grade bodyfiller
Some guys will use guide coat on the body filler makeimg the peeping of the primer stage eaiser
I really enjoy working on cars and mc I hate sanding body work !!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. Ha! 😂
I like powder guide coat better.
Good job 👍 body work sucks but worth it in the end 😀
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Right?! Thanks!!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Good video and great effort. For its age Carl's boot and bonnet are in really good condition. Body work is one of those things that is, literally, extremely painful but when done properly extremely rewarding as well. There is a YT channel called @Paint Society that worth a look.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'll check that channel out!
@michaelau5159
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage there is also @The Gunman. Gun refers to spray paint gun.
I see one of y'all at the shells gas station. How's it going Now both of y'all
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yep, that was a long trip home. We made it!
That's lookin awesome but I would suggest a few coats of a high solids primer for the rest of the body, you can put on 3 fat coats and long board it starting with 220, from what I can tell on the hood and trunk, this would have saved you a ton of filling and sanding, overcoat even had a sprayable filler and honestly you can roll it on seeing how you have to sand it anyway,, great job so far,, happy blocking
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Great tips! Thank you!!
@geoffreymills9932
3 жыл бұрын
@@ElliesGarage I'm 58 and have been working on cars sence high school, I only wish we would've had a product like that back in the early 80s, we were doing good to find high build primer back then,, lol
I never wasted my time banging on a hood or decklid,if the low spot was really low just fill it.or if not shrink it with a torch.
Bodywork is my least thing. Put it on….. Sand it off, Lather, Rinse, Repeat until your mask is caked with dust. But it’s much safer than lead of days past.
airfile...X pattern....I 've been a body and paint man since 73...
Lot of work but we'll worth it see end result
Dont drop hammer or dolly in carpanels,its usually dont do dent but its possiple.
Polyester primer… skip skimming the entire panel. Bare metal: epoxy, find lows, filler, polyester, sand 180,320, spray reduced urethane 2k primer, wet sand 400.
WHY didn't you do that outside?? I just warched y'all spray that dust all over the garage,
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, that's a good idea. We'll definitely do that next time or maybe use a shop vac. Thanks for the help!
Look up pick and file method on youtube. You don't need to use filler. That is an old car with good metal.
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
We will. Thanks for the tip!
@jeremyking5684
2 жыл бұрын
Every car that is restored has filler on it or glaze!!
Next time use a brush to clean off the major amount of dust onto the floor then sweep it up! And everything will stay cleaner! Then blow off what is remaining. Old body man tip!!
@ElliesGarage
3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like the voice of experience. Thank you! We'll definitely do that next time!
Just spot adding bondo on the lows and using those little hand blocks, when you sand will just move the highs and lows around causing more ripples. Those short blocks are useful for finish sanding. That is going to be a long process. Once the metalwork is done, you are better off spraying several coats of high build polyurethane primer (not spray-on bondo) over the entire car flat panel surface areas and use your long blocks. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dHd6t7CBecupfJM.html
Always knock down your high spots, then fill the whole panel, never just patch fill the low spots.
2 part glazing putty is your friend.....