I think it was in 2022 when Eren Jeager won both "Best Protagonist" AND "Best Antagonist" at the Anime Awards. A testament to this incredible writing.

@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis

5 ай бұрын

a testament to people not knowing what the terms mean

@KiIZero

2 ай бұрын

@@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis well he opposes himself in a way, so i think it's fair to believe he's the antagonist and the protagonist. He wishes to wipe out all of humanity to see the sights he saw in armins book and obtain his version of 'freedom' but also wanted to save the people of paradis, and his friends, which means he can't obtain the freedom he wants.

When it comes to reactions, the betrayal of Reiner and Bertolt, and this episode... never disappoints.

@Dark__Thoughts

8 ай бұрын

The betrayal of Reiner and Bertolt, toppled by the betrayal of Eren.

The moment Grisha says "I never imagined it would be so terrible" and "You have to stop Eren" bring me chills every time. And Eren's face at the end is terrifying.

This is probably my favorite episode of AOT, so good

Many fans hated Zeke or Reiner at the beginning but as you learn his backstory, you can’t help to pity him to how he become the character we know. Attack on Titan is one masterpiece that the author taught his viewers not to quickly judge and open up your perspective.

By far one of the most shocking yet masterful episodes of TV I have ever seen. Your reaction was exactly the same as mine: tears of upset but also pure shock. Also Grisha's VA, are you kidding me?? He absolutely nailed that final scene

oh man oh man watching this episode after having watched the finale is fucking wild its SO GOOD how everything just _connects_

@lunarmoon4596

8 ай бұрын

Yeah

I know you're ahead but man, this episode is probably my absolute favorite. It gives you all the information of when Eren's memories were awakened, shifts the blame of who the 'bad guy' is on the audiences perspective. The beginning of understanding how the Attack Titan conceives time, or rather the lack of, after making contact with someone of Royal Blood. Fabulous! Can't wait to see every last reaction 💜

Grisha voice actors is so good!!! The mvp in this episode

17:26 Who is the bad guy? Can't help but be reminded of Erwin asking Eren that very question.

The dark shadow over Eren's, eyes just before he knocks Zeke, back into the Paths realm is chilling.

Now you know why as absurd as it sounds...Rod reiss was the only one that survived...the story always sounded sus...but as I came to find out and you have too, he wasn't lying...he was spared

Eren was not a hero, but a mastermind who transcended time and space.

@Dark__Thoughts

8 ай бұрын

Dunno, he became pretty rooted.

Zeke thought that Grisha was raising Eren the same way, but he really wasn't. Eren and everyone on the island grew up and lived without knowing the real truth. And considering what Eren had been through, he had become like that himself, without the help of his father, who was protecting his son

@alexkurowski1159

8 ай бұрын

long live king floch 👑

Tears of confusion😂😂your head cant process the twists to the point it starts weeping 😂😂✨🔥🙌peakk

So I discovered your channel maybe a month ago. I saw how close you were to this episode and just waited for the pain. It was worth the wait~

That's the brilliance of AOT is that it's very different, there are no good or bad people just humans doing both good and bad stuff.

I love seeing people go through AOT for the first time! Im totally inspired by Hajime Isayama. Its just brilliant stuff.

I cried again watching your reaction to grisha with zeke

Whenever Grisha comes he changes the story on its head and the VA can't be praised enough....he's on another level

and let me remind you that you hated Zeke last season for killing Erwin . That 's how Isayama turned your idea of characters upside down . Isn 't he a genius ?

@lastcuneyt3334

8 ай бұрын

He aight

@user-ek1xq9zq7m

8 ай бұрын

I personally still hate him, that macaque has killed so many people, including Erwin

Introducing...the main villain of the story!!

In chapter 1 there's a panel in which Grisha is looking outside while showing the key to Kid Eren , it wasnt adapted in the anime,even when he shows the key we dont see where Grisha is looking......means Isayama had this planned from thr beginning THATS WHY HE'S THE 🐐

Greatest episode of all time

Спасибо за реакцию. Хотя я не очень понимаю по-английски, но вижу, что ваши эмоции искренни!

12:45... she realizes shit got real

Love that you noticed Grisha refer to Mikasa as his daughter.

The second major mind explosion moment, now on to the home stretch..... I hope you are prepared.

It is important to recognize that AoT has a linear storyline, there is no re-doing, no changing the past to change the future. The inheritors of Attack Titan can see the future, but there's little they can do when it comes to changing the future.

@MareTranquil

8 ай бұрын

This is, honestly, my least favourite aspects of the entire plot of AoT. Why do Grisha end Eren do what they do? Because thats what they do. Case closed. I've kind of started to hate this kind of thing whenever it comes up in fiction.

@misterae6430

8 ай бұрын

@@MareTranquil Spoiler: you have to think a bit outside of the box. Dont forget Eren mentioned that he was experiencing the present,past and future at same time and how it was messing with his head. Imagine feeling all the anger of things in the present and applying it in the "present" . Everything becomes blurry i can imagine. It's hard to Imagine because we are talking about something that is actually not possible to experience as a human. Also he noticed how he wasnt able to change the future, hence why he saved the kid from getting beaten up. he believed he couldnt change things and it simply becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

@rabela1810

8 ай бұрын

​@@MareTranquil I look at it this way, minor spoiler ahead leave if haven't finish AoT Attack on Titan is a streamlined story, there is only ONE single timeline, there's no re-doing or changing the past, there cannot be a time paradox. THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE. As the successor of the Attack Titan, its only ability is to grant memories of past, present and future inheritors. However, this is a streamline memory that can only play in a certain direction. If Eren is seeing into Grisha's memory that means Eren ALREADY gotten the Attack titan and Founding titan from his dad so the events the lead up to Eren inheriting the titan (Grisha getting Founding, Mom getting eaten....etc) already happened. There's nothing Eren nor Grisha can do to change their fate here. The law of causality (cause --> consequence) cannot be reversed. If say Eren didn't convince his dad, his dad didn't steal the founding titan, then Eren wouldn't be able to inherit founding titan from his dad and wouldn't be able to see this exact memory. This will create a time paradox. The fact that he is seeing it now means everything has already been written in stone, can't change anything. A good analogy for AoT inheritors would be playing a RPG game with a single ending. There is no alternative ending, you already been spoiled the ending of the game. The plot of the game has already been decided by the game developer. Yes you control the characters, yes you are able to do certain things with the character within the game. But there's a limit of what you can do about the game itself, the story plot, progress and ending of the game doesn't change nor matter what the player do. Say you are at the point of the game that now prompts you to ask Grisha to kill Reiss family, you don't want to, but there's no other option for you to choose. You tried to reload your last save file and find yourself end up in the exact position, they are just destined to die here, you can delay it as long as you want but nor matter how much you wanna delay ur main quest, if you continue the game you will reach the same ending. God knows how much time Eren spent in the path trying to find the option to an alternative ending but like he said in the final movie, he tried countless time but THE VISION OF THE FUTURE just WOULD NOT CHANGE. Eren's only choice is to move forward, click next and watch the story plays out. He's quite powerless in deciding his own fate, hence, a SLAVE of FREEDOM. Ofc this is only my interpretation, you are welcome to interpret it differently.

@Kianffs

8 ай бұрын

@@rabela1810 i absolutely love how you explained this. i already understood that he could not change the future but the way you explained HOW he couldnt, made me understand so much better and just makes me feel much more empathy for eren

@rabela1810

8 ай бұрын

@@KianffsI have to say this is only my own interpretation and analogy, I don't represent Isayama and this might not be what Isayama had in mind. In my head it just makes a lot of sense and fit with the narrative of the story.

This was one of my favorite episodes the music combined all the heavy truths we get 😩

5:06 "That'd be a twist?" AoT: "I'll show you a twist!" hahaha To explain this episode, the attack titan and Eren... It doesn't glimpse into the future of its future holders, but rather the future holders can sent memories back to the previous ones. That's why Grisha was asking Eren why he didn't show him everything, including what happens to Carla, which he only finds out later from young Eren. This means Eren Kruger knew about Mikasa and Armin, because Eren gave him that memory, using him as a pawn to set him on a very specific path. Grisha was able to see Zeke, because he saw him from Eren's eyes, because Zeke taking Eren into the memories meant that Eren has those memories, which he could sent back to Grisha. Like when Grisha looked towards Eren while holding the key, he basically had the memory of looking at himself through Eren's eyes, which meant he knew that Eren was in front of him in that moment. Or when Grisha hugged Zeke, he only saw him because Eren was right behind Grisha, looking at the two. That means, the only reason Grisha did what he did, was because Zeke in the future took Eren into those memories, which allowed Eren to send them back to Grisha in the past, grooming him into slaughtering the royal family. So yeah, it was him, it always was, right from the first episode. Eren basically even groomed his own past self onto this path basically, and when he kissed Historia's hand, he then also knew. He knew what he did, he knew what he would do, he knew everything. That's why he was looking so shocked after the kiss, this is why he was so quiet and grew his hair out in the following year before they went to the sea. This is the moment when you realize that AoT is basically the villains tragic backstory. Honestly, it changes the whole show. When you'll do a re-watch you'll pay a lot of attention to not just the Marley warriors now, but also Eren. There's a lot of subtle hints and foreshadowing if you do. Easily one of the best AoT episodes. Btw, your community tab says 4x29 for the second special, aka Part 4? Pretty sure it is 4x30. I'll try to not use any spoilers from that yet though, as not everyone might've seen it at this time but some of your post episode questions are definitely relevant for that one as well. :D Edit: Also kudos for noticing Grisha calling Mikasa his daughter. T_T

@lucidiously

8 ай бұрын

What I like is that also means that Eren gave Grisha and Zeke that moment of reconciliation. Grisha being able to apologize, and Zeke realizing his father did love him. Even with everything Eren did/will do/has done, I see this as him giving a small kindness to his brother and father.

ここから見ようと思えば、ノンストップで見れるの羨ましすぎる。

Grisha knew Zeke was a full-grown adult since the scene when he was asleep on the basement, Eren quickly took a grasp in Grisha as a way to tell him "don't say anything". Eren was not shocked by the fact Grisha woke up by saying Zeke, he was afraid that Grisha ruined everything by mere shock.

@victorfsaaa

8 ай бұрын

I think it is actually when Eren realizes that he can feed his memories in the moment, and he understands ehat he can do

@davem9169

8 ай бұрын

@@victorfsaaaThat’s how i understood it as well. Particularly taking into account Eren’s words in the next episode that it was only once Zeke took him into the memories that he was able to basically unlock something.

@alexkurowski1159

8 ай бұрын

he knew about his powers from kissing historias hand tho@@victorfsaaa

You probably already realized it by now but the attack titan alone isn't able to look into the past. Only the memories of its future inheritors, therefore it only can see visions of the future. But a user with both the attack titan AND the founding titan, not only can you see the past and future. But you can interact and influence change. There is much more to this tho.

EREN IS HIM! Crazy to know the Attack Titan is why Kruger knew Mikasa and Armin and the fact that Eren was gaslighting his own dad from the future (because he gives eren the titan he gets future eren memories and eren only lets him see bits and parts of that future, and that has guided his dad and previous attack titans on this path) All the times Grisha gets glimpses of his children is so shocking then to see Eren full on gaslight his dad into killing people is WILD Eren is a savage

I don’t know if you understood how eren pushed his father to do it cause at the time many people thought it’s time travel when in fact it’s not , memories here met at some point and grisha was able to see future through eren’s eyes so technically he was able to see through eren’s himself , eren all had to do here is to trigger him by reminding him of his sister death and everything, this episode was one of the best i ever seen in any show

Did you say Eren was playing with Zeke's ass? 0:17 I missed that part

@misterae6430

8 ай бұрын

I'm with Eren, I mean after that whole cake cheek shot of Zeke he got me convinced

@danefisette3561

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

The thing about AOT is that there is neither an antagonist nor a protagonist..its all about the perspective of what they believe is right...remember reiner annie and bert were the bad guess for the first 2 seasons but it changed when we got to know about the outside world and their mission..this is what blows ny mind till this day..no other anime that i've watched till now has done this ever❤

@Dark__Thoughts

8 ай бұрын

Everyone committing genocide is definitely an antagonist. lol Like, that's not even a matter of perspective. Genocide is bad, period. That's like baseline human decency and there's absolutely no justification for it.

😁😄😆😅🤣😂 the ANTAGONIST was HINTED in season 1, by Erwin Smith!!! Remember Erwin ASKED Eren "WHO IS THE REAL ENEMY?" Told ya'll... I'm team WARRIORS for LIFE!!!

Can't wait for ur reaction on the final episode

Where’s that super long explanatory copypasta comment lol?

This episode made me questioning my sense of time

"What the..." Muahahaha. Everyone has stories within stories. No character is one dimensional. "Who is the bad guy?" What if there is no bad guy? What is a bad guy?

Yep "WTF?!" is definitely an appropriate reaction 😆

eren the villain behind everything

11/10 episode for real

2x06 Is for Boys.. 4x20 Is for man 😎 Last Episodes Is for 🗿

Segundo melhor episódio, na minha opinião.

Poor Grisha

peak

It's so fucked how Eren pushes Grisha went he wasn't going to do it. Grisha the victim is a good twist.

Such nice acting by eren

"Who's the enemy?"

That “WTF”

Who is the bad guy? Good question

Eren is on his villain time

By the way, you already know the ending, Levi became disabled and now Gaby and Falco are taking care of him (it was in the manga, but not shown in the anime )

@berserker7091

8 ай бұрын

Huh? how did she know the ending? she got spoiled?

@Zura-Janai

8 ай бұрын

@@berserker7091 she already watched the last episode in her patreon that's probably what they mean by "she already know the ending".

@jonkohrr2.06

8 ай бұрын

I hope you're sure that she already watched the ending, because otherwise, what a d*ck move, smh