Update: The M11 has been SOLD! 💐 M11 Monochrom is the day to day camera now. ❤

@P.I.S.OnYou.

6 ай бұрын

I see 8 months have passed but is the this still for sale

Go Matt go! Love seeing Leica sharing this with you.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the love, Nico!

Great work, Matt. Always appreciate your reviews! Glad they sent you one!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Taylor! 👊🏻

You seem so convinced with the m11 monochrom! From the weight to the sensor and the images as a whole, they put a smile on your face! Get it Matt!

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

The biggest smile on Matt's face was when he said, "Am I getting this? You know the answer to that. YES!"

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Real excited about this one, been waiting since the M11 launch!

Always am so happy to see your videos at any Leica release and especially on this one.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

My man.

This camera looks so clean! It’s such an interesting concept as well!

I remember a video about a year ago when you first demo'd the new M11 you said you'd be all over the monochrom version if they ever come out with one. Well, you are a man of your word....Congrats on getting your dream camera!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerry! Excited for this one.

This mono sensors is totally different world, just like getting the pre production model WOW! I have Q2 mono for a year now, use it for BTS on corporate sets as my personal cam and more and more clients ask for those photos. Would be a killer combo with M10 or M11 with 50 or 35. Thank you Matt!

@_parkphoto

Жыл бұрын

BTS that's a sick idea for a BW camera. love it

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

The Q2 Monochrom is such a fun one as well. Not that I need one, but I would love to see them expand the Monochrom offerings to the SL system.

This is the perfect camera for you Matt, and we can’t wait to see what you create with it! 🧡

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Y'all are the best! Thank you for all of the support and everything to come! ❤💐

haven’t seen you this giddy in a long time…good for you Matt. Can’t wait to see what you do with your new camera.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Bill! Thanks for watching!

I would love if the next monochrome camera had a built-in infrared filter that you could switch on and off (similar to the ND filter built on the X100V)

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea! The built-in ND on the X100 series is more useful than people think.

Reallyt like your style of presentation and your passion. Great review Matt

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words.

Awesome video dude. Love it! Quality is insane ❤

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I use and love Leica. But I’m more interested in the new Pentax K-3 mono than this:).

@mjztx

Жыл бұрын

Same honestly just because I can actually afford it!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Super cool to see other manufacturers start to experiment with the monochrome formula. How soon until we see something from Fuji or Ricoh?

@rikardlandberg

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto I only shoot BW, and I shoot Leica M and Ricoh GR. I would love a GR with this K3 sensor!

Killer video. This is my dream camera. I am starved to shoot solely b&w. thanks so much for sharing! keep killin it!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Idk bout y’all but film still takes the cake over any of those hyper clinical m11m files!

@johnkasianowicz6536

Жыл бұрын

Lenses add character.

@Techno_logist

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnkasianowicz6536 Lenses add a majority of the character, and film is a better sensor.

Nicely done. Thank you.

What a gorgeous and amazing camera. If I had the money, I wouldn’t think twice.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Gotta thin the herd for it, but for me it'll be worth it!

@Guairenito

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto definitely

Just wow, ISO 100k still looks perfectly usable. This is pretty insane.

Thanks for your excellent Video. Best wishes from Portugal. All the best!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great job on this video, Matt. It looks like an amazing camera. I really wish that Fujifilm would come out with a monochrome X pro or something along those lines.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

With Pentax making their own and even the Leica Monochrom cameras becoming more and more popular on the used market, I really think it's just a matter of time before we see that. Seems like there is a lot of market there among the Leica/Fuji crowd. A lot of overlap from what I've seen over the years. Thanks for watching, Joe!

I worked for a company that manufactured industrial machine vision cameras. Monochromatic image sensors are often favored when light sensitivity is a higher priority over color data. I've always found it interesting how there was no shortage of monochrome cameras for industrial / CCTV use, but no handheld digital cameras!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting to hear!

Interesting video Matt. That camera does look insanely powerful. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it in the coming months.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Colin! 👊🏻

@colinosullivan

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto cheers buddy

Today, I finally bought my first real Leica camera. A few years ago, I bought one of the m mount bessa cameras, sold it, and got a Leica CL. While the CL is great for what I do, the build quality was incredibly lacking, constantly needing rangefinder calibration, and just didn't have my confidence in its structure. Today, I bought an M8, and can't wait to test it out. While this is unrelated to the video, I just had to get it out lol. Super excited.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Super excited for you! The M8 was actually my first digital Leica I ever bought, back in 2014 I believe. Hope you enjoy yours!

The redundancy is great! I hope they’ll have this in the Q3

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

It seems like an easy bet that they will.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't thought about that, but that's a good idea! I'd love to see them add this in the Q system.

One place to go is fully adjustable viewfinder framelines. Being able to have the optics and the framelines adjust so that 21 or 15mm lenses work well optically without external viewfinder, live view, or evf, or to accommodate the rangefinder system for telephoto lenses, without needing to use liveview/evf. That would be an instant buy for me. It would mean inventing a new optical rangefinder mechanism (maybe stick an mini lens system inside the rangefinder mechanism), but this is where advancement would go to the next level. Miniaturization and technology has advanced to the point where such thing should be possible.

Pentax: Hey we got a new monochrome camera! Leica: And I took that personally

Due to my experiences the best “color” camera for monochrome pictures is the Hassy X2D. I think you can get a better quality file for a Leica price… It was an interesting experience to compare Leica to the Hassy… as never wanted to change from Leica. Now I did.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Two of the most iconic brands in photography in a cage match!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting, I've never shot with the X2D.

@feherberci

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto you should try… or I cand send you a bw sample. It gives a native 16 bit file.

If I eventually win the lottery the M11 Monochom is my dream purchase. Looking forward to seeing you use one when yours arrives.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Morris! Should be here in a few days. 🥳

It's the smallest nuances that make the greatest differences. That's my note on photo philosophy. So I totally understand where you're coming from with the intentionality behind shooting BW on a BW camera. I'm the same way with a rear LCD. I'd rather have it eliminated so my mind isn't wandering with the possibility of checking my images. Cheers man, super exciting release!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Totally get that. We'll see if I bust out the gaffer tape on this one. Haha.

This is the most unnecessary camera (imo) that I have ever wanted. It looks beautiful and so fun to use. Thanks for the great video.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Haha, love it. Thanks for watching!

Nice to hear someone who shoots B&W review the camera. Can you speak to the benefit of the monochrome sensor vs the ability to adjust the color channels before converting to B&W on a m11?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

You've brought up a great point! I'll try to cover some of that in an upcoming video, maybe when I share a video on processing these files when my camera arrives.

Your future video about the Visoflex 2 will also be highly interesting... I've been hesitant about: does it ruin the rangefinder experience or is it a must for older guys and/or tele lenses?

beautiful video.. a question in what position do you set the iso and the speeds and aperture of doafragma, for street photos...? Finally... what iso do you feel more like to avoid noise in the photos?

Worth every penny

i was hoping we would be seeing you with it!

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thankful for their support and letting me check them out ahead of launch! It's a little thing, but it makes me happy. Haha.

What you have to say about the M11 Monochrom being an endgame camera is really interesting. I’m a car enthusiast as well as a photographer. the car market is trending in the same direction in my opinion. The internal combustion engine has been perfected and at this point, car companies are just adding horsepower like camera companies are adding megapixels. Where do we go from here?

@authenticNL2

Жыл бұрын

More dynamic range and highlight rolloff?

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

A 16-bit sensor is the only thing I can imagine. Perhaps a stacked sensor removing the mechanical shutter, taking away one more moving part. And maybe a built-in rangefinder calibration measurement. It still would need to be sent to Leica to get fixed, but knowing it is getting out of alignment would be useful. And, as @Brett Hough suggests, IBIS.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

We're spoiled, that's all there is to it. Haha.

I just purchased an M3 from KEH about 2 months ago and bought a new Zeiss 50mm for it and love it. I never knew how much easier it was to focus vs an SLR, I am trying to decide whether to buy a digital M next or maybe stick with the M3 and try different lenses.

@GTAYLOR1972

Жыл бұрын

Also in addition to my comment - I am super impressed you able to keep yourself under control during that conference call and not have to go throw up during it. #impressive. #control. 😅

@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO

9 ай бұрын

Wait for the M27

@dayzpast

5 ай бұрын

I recently purchased the M3 for an Asia trip and really fell in love with the focusing and ease of use. Noting that I use an external light meter, until I have better bearings on sunny 16 ☀️. I just purchased a Leica m10m and honestly it doesn’t feel the same as the m3, it’s heavy, uncomfortable to hold and having that much cash tied into a single camera isn’t worth it. For context I also have the Ricoh GR3 and this by far is much better for the digital itch when you want to switch from film. It’s compact and setting your colour profiles makes it a breeze to simple download and print or upload to socials. So to answer your question, I really think it’s not worth it, because of how many other fantastic options are out there, even the Fuji x100f is better, having recently sold one

I’d love to see direct comparison to a converted M11 file to the monochrome

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

My camera *should* be here this coming Wednesday. If my M11 hasn't sold by then, I'll try to shoot some side-by-side examples for a video!

Any film camera with a pallet of black & white film and a vacation > Leica's hope and dreams I'm glad Leica is making digital m's more affordable/accessible to everyone though 👍

It was controversial when Leica first introduced the Monochrom, but it has, I think, been an ingenious move on their part. Yes, go get it.😊❤

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

Digital photography aside, how much do you use to spend while travelling with only film?

I think the next advancement that we should see is the RGBW sensor.

Matt is a real one ☝️

Hi Matt, maybe they don’t need to add anything more. After all, the difference between an M2 and an MP is the light meter, which is not much change over 40 years. Cheers.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

IBIS seems to be the main thing people are always asking about, if and when they could add that into an M body. But make too many changes to the M body and eventually, it may lose that M feeling.

I desire this camera

Does the standard M11 have rear sapphire glass like M11 monochrome?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

The original M11 uses the Gorilla Glass, similar to the M10 Monochrom.

Love seeing it. Feel like it's the worst kept secret lately though.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

The internet these days. Haha.

IT’S NICEEEEEE

Is it worth paying up so much for the M11M vs M10M? Are the extra pixels really worth so much money? If you are shooting under normal daylight conditions? I guess the light meter is much better? Highlight biased if want it so the risk of blowing the highlights is less? For those that will spend this money, the Q is M11M vs M10Rrather than buying a MC vs non MC Leica.

I had a feeling Matt would have a video! Haha

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

"Report as pornography" lol! Damn that's an awesome camera. Next time my boss asks me how much I want to make, I'll tell him "enough to afford a M11 monochrome". Have fun dude, hope to see more of it soon.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you! Appreciate the support.

Despite those improvements, I think I will still keep my M8.2, Q2M, and M10M unless there is a Reporter or a Stealth edition available.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Whew, you've got quite the kit there! That's awesome.

where did u get that signet ring?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

A local maker! seasonshandmadejewelry.com/

In 3 years I might buy one used.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Honestly not a bad idea at all!

14:00 "... improve ... resolution..." No, they cannot. They've reached the practical limits of physics already with cramming 60MP onto a 24mm by 36mm surface. Diffraction kicks in at f8 on the M11. The more pixels they squeeze into 24mm by 36mm, the fewer usable apertures remain without reaching a diffraction limit. On the M11, there already is a trade-off between a large depth of field and maximum detail resolution. When shooting f8, f11 or smaller for a larger depth of field, you are sacrificing detail resolution already. Adding more pixels will actually not result in more resolution in any practical sense. Pixels do not equate resolution. In that sense, you are absolutely right that they maxed out the M11. I think we'll see improvements in electronic shutters, readout speeds, global shutter. The endgame not just for the M11 will be to eliminate the need for a mechanical shutter all together. IBIS in an M would also be amazing. There are still lots of improvements they can make in other areas.

"no matter how you look at it, that's alotta bread" lolol

I feel like the last thing that's missing in M cameras is IBIS

if I had the money I would go down the same route, I know they hold value well so it's as much an investment as it an outlandish purchase. In terms of improvement, I agree it's everything you want. Maybe a built in ND or yellow filter

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Built in filters could be really interesting! And the value holding much better on Leica lenses and bodies is definitely helpful. I've taken bigger gambles on less expensive cameras/lenses, if that makes sense.

One day they will be able to add IBIS into these M bodies. Other than this maybe higher resolution screens and EVF add ons. But I suppose with the low noise, the shutter speeds could be high enough now on the Monochrom wouldn’t even need IBIS.

@davidkieltyka9

Жыл бұрын

I find this is already true with the M10 Mono. ISO 6400 doesn’t look much different to ISO 160. In Auto mode (aperture priority) I have the shutter set to 2x focal length or faster, and this is enough to keep things plenty sharp.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I'm excited to see how I like the Visoflex 2 on the M11M. I wouldn't want them to add an EVF to the rangefinder viewfinder, however I don't know how much I'll like having the EVF attachment on at all times. We'll see. And the shutter speed/low noise point is what I have said to others as well! I was shooting inside my house at like 1/2000 of a second. 🤣

The M11 is a bridge too far financially, but I’m glad both versions exist. Currently using the Q2, which was a real stretch…couldn’t give up color, but set up as a B&W camera w/DNG. As much as I can afford.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's still a killer setup! The Q system has proven itself to be a mainstay in the Leica lineup. Excited to see where they take that system as well.

The fact you find it hard to talk without smiling constantly during this video speaks volumes.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Haha, couldn't help it on this one!

Matt who do you sell you camera through… eBay, Adorama, or privately?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

It all depends. I try to sell privately when I can, just in order to make the most possible money back on my purchases. Through my Instagram, to friends I know, etc. But I've also sold things to KEH for the sake of ease and speed. You won't make as much back since they're a reseller, they have to price accordingly, but it's immediate and takes away the hassle of holding onto gear that just isn't selling. I've never sold on eBay myself. Hope that helps!

Shutting down the haters before they even can type lol love it

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I've made enough videos and received enough comments to know what to expect, especially on topics like a $9000 black and white camera. Haha.

did they improve the wake up time?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I personally don't remember hearing or reading anything about the start up time in the changes/improvements on this iteration. Will try to share that in a video when I get mine.

@iamkenji

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto I have the m10, wake-up time too long that i missed a lot of shots, now I shoot with gr3, the wake time is so short that it feel like shooting a manual rangefinder, almost. I hope leica can improve that since they were the creator of rangefinder and costs $$$.

OMG!!

My guess is that we'll soon see the M11P with the same body improvements.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I was so thrown off by this one coming out so soon, all of my bets are off. Haha. That would be great to see those body improvements though!

After the end game, your next level minus the low light is a Ricoh GR. Once you get used to it, the raw images it produces will any kill camera.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

I've never owned or shot with any of the Ricoh GR digital cameras, but friends that have them swear by them!

Honestly, if I had the bread to get one I absolutely would

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Feels like all I could ask for in a digital camera for every day use.

@ZachSaintWard

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto If my clients didn’t need color then I would be all in for it - I’m highly tempted toward the M11 as it stands

The M11 and M11M are peak M camera. Don't know what else they could do or *should* do. Most things are better left alone and it won't take long before the "need" for innovation doesn't make these M cameras anymore

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's where myself and a lot of people are, I think. Improvements and innovation are great as long as it still feels like an M.

I smell what you're stepping in, but the body alone is $9k!!! Holy balls 😅 very cool how the sensor allows more light in and renders it better than a color sensor, but I can't justify $9k+ (with lens) for that. But im happy you have one and enjoying it!

Matt - is your M11 still available?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Hey Michael, it sure is! If you'd like more info and photos of it, shoot me an email and I'll send it over!

The m11 is an amazing machine. One of the youtubers i follow has gone thru 4 of em since January.

So tempting but I do not believe my eyesight is good enough for a rangefinder. Can not wait to see the work you create with the M11 Monochrome Matt.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Eric! Hope you're still enjoying that X100V. ❤

@ericmontaephoto

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto It's is in my everyday camera and the camera I've used the most. If I every come across a spare $9200 the M11 Monochrome may join the family.

Take away the LCD and it would be a digital M that I would actually consider over my M3.

@peteperkwisit6213

Жыл бұрын

Put tape over the screen… problem solved

@greenbrightly

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, get rid of the screen and it’s perfect.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Gaff tape goes a long way. Haha. I gaffed over the LCD on my X100T years ago and it did the trick to keep me from constantly chimping, especially having an EVF in the viewfinder.

Maybe the next thing they can add is IBIS

@kaushalkashyap4306

Жыл бұрын

Leica M is a manual focus camera. The point of the M system is to not have IBIS. Will never have IBIS. If you need IBIS, go with the SL2.

@abeham5720

Жыл бұрын

@@kaushalkashyap4306 i dont want no SL. I know it is manual, and Even if its manual, doesnt mean you cant add IBIS.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

This seems to be the most popular request! Time will tell.

the leica MA11 DAY

Leica’s don’t depreciate like other cameras, correct?

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

The digital cameras definitely hold their value more than most digital cameras on the market. The film cameras on the other hand have only gone up. I bought my M6 TTL ten years ago for $1600 and it was mint. Nowadays that could get me roughly half of one.

@elliotresnick5433

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto if you’re interested in trading your M11 for a Sony camera body and lenses in like new/open box condition, please let me know.

A pity you couldn't have added a little warm tone and increased contrast to those images.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

You can add toning in camera, but I wanted to share the files as minimally edited as possible for the first look at the camera.

I think there might be two things worth an upgrade. First a global shutter like the new Sony. This way you can get rid of the shutter and flash at all speeds. Secondly a more modern/smarter OVF. What they are doing at this moment is not working great.

I wish i could afford this 😢😢😢😢😢😢

Im starting a go fund me to get this camera! HELP!

The bayer filter array of a classic colour sensor effectively captures a signal that has half the bandwidth (equivalent to a quarter of the pixel count) on every colour channel. You would need a 240MP bayer sensor to rival this 60MP monochrome sensor in terms of sharpness, so there absolutely is a motivation for why you would want a camera like this.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Until I shot with it and really opened the files up, I didn't realize just how much of a difference it makes.

Having more options in resolution is great. Having Less options in controls is great. This is why theses justification videos never work, it's always better to say you like a Leica because of the fell and not the technical side.

If only they would put a GPS tracker in these expensive cameras it would be great. In my country burglars don't get caught. I take my camera everywhere because it's not safe to keep it at my house. So a Leica is a everyday carry camera! :)

It's not improbable that Leica are going to have to completely rethink their whole game. They can't keep selling 1920s style tech to an audience that has immediate access to the highly-acclaimed Pentax K3III Monochrome. That looks like a DSLR and feels like a DSLR and works like a DSLR, and more importantly has a 26mp sensor. Which is far more user-friendly than 60, 36 or 18mp. And, is a bucket of cash cheaper. If Leica would consider addressing those issues, I would consider looking at one.

@Noah-lj2sg

8 ай бұрын

Leica's audience is mostly not professionals, it's enthusiasts

@ChrisCarson

8 ай бұрын

@@Noah-lj2sg At the end of the day it all comes down to matter of personal choice. It doesn't matter if you are a professional or an enthusiast or anything in between. If you decide Leica is the way you want to go, and if pride of ownership means al lot to you, then go for it. We all hold values that differ from everybody else, and because we are all highly individual, priorities will always be in the eye of the beholder. Your money, your choice. Be happy.

Help ! All the guys who sold me the film dream are all using digital cameras !

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Matt still has his M6.

I love black & white like you do, but the thing that is great about color cameras shooting black & white is that you can manipulate the tones even better using stuff like the B&W mixer in Lightroom. Basically color cameras let you "color" grade black & white better than shooting natively in B&W, allowing you different "film stocks" in a way. That being said the advantages and "purity" of the monochrome cameras are appealing, and you being eternally B&W I understand why you would just wanna put your head down and forget all that color mess. I bet you even set your live view/playback to B&W on the M11 now.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

That's how I always use my M11, with the B&W film type set. But you've brought up a great point in the color channels, you won't have any of that information to adjust in a Monochrom file.

The next step for Leica is the Leica M12 Sepia.

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

For true arteests.

“Where do we go from here?” Matt… You and I both know that if the next version of the Monochrom comes out in an M6 body we’re buying it 🥲

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

Haha, I've never tried any of the "D" variants, without the LCD screen. M11MD? My initials? 🤔

At first I thought you were doing a video on the new Pentax monochrome, but then I realized it was leicashit.

nice Matt, but 9000 euros?? Not sure anymore.. Do not remember when salaries went crazy as inflation has been these days.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

They kept the inflation down to 2-3% for this, compared to the M11 a year ago.

I have one word… bougie. 😜

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

a bougie camera hanging around a red neck. 🤣

adding hybrid viefinder and ibis would make it the endgame camera. far away from it so far i think

If only I could justify spending $11.000 at my local Norwegian camera store …

The only polarizing thing about leica is price/quality...

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

A debate that will likely never end. Haha.

@nico.m8346

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto doesn't take anything away from the quality of of your photos and the quality of your youtube content. Been watching it for ages. Love it. Take care Matt. (Double of)

Dear Jesus, please help me not to react out of my flesh and sell everything for the M11 monochrome. Amen

I will never spend that much money for a camera like M11 or Monochrome. I much prefer Hasselblad X2D. 10 times better in every situation

@mattdayphoto

Жыл бұрын

You should shoot them side by side!

@GKhanKutar

Жыл бұрын

@@mattdayphoto no need for that because i know I will love medium format over a FF camera. Especially X2D. A piece of art

@Unknownresident621

Жыл бұрын

10X better in every situation? Let's see....optical rangefinder vs EVF....rangefinder any day for street photography. Lens selection - no comparison - Leica wins by a huge margin. etc. etc. They are for different purposes. I tried my friend's X2D and for street photography and I'll stick with my Leica anyday...lighter and far better choice of lenses which are far smaller than XCD lenses so the Leica wins definitely for travel/street. So....not quite the exaggerated '10x in every situation!' They are for different purposes - for studio setup, yes the XCD is better. For spontaneous street photography (which is my preferred photography), Leica anyday.

@GKhanKutar

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@@Unknownresident621 stop talking dumb. EVF is better. 1.0 times magnification on X2D. It is larger than your rangefinder and it will performn better than rf in sunny days. You can not get sharp images with fast lenses on Leica. You have every angle lens on Hasselblad. From very wide angle to tele. Leica is a death company. Owned by Panasonic secretly. Lol. They use Pana technology

@Unknownresident621

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@@GKhanKutar 🤣

At that price? nope

I mean it's cool and all but HP5+ pushed to 1600 in a decent contrast developer still wipes the floor with it.

@mynewcolour

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By technical metrics probably not … but I’m with you. M11 money buys an M2/3/4 (or a Konica iiia) 1000 rolls and two holidays. You’ll have a messy bathroom and less free time but more fun.

@D.Trider

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Definitely not. Maybe if you’re printing silver gelatin, but the latitude, convenience, DR doesn’t come close to digital monochrom sensors. Maybe if you’re shooting medium format… but honestly I love film as much as probably everyone here- but film is also so so shitty for the environment. It’s terrible which is why I mostly switched from 35mm film to digital. Medium format film there are still many advantages so it seems much more justified…

@mynewcolour

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@@D.Trider The ecological footprint is going to vary hugely. If you buy film made in your home country and process in Xtol and use a 40 year old camera (with no battery) vs buying a new digital camera and four li-ion batteries and cards every four years … you catch my drift.

@D.Trider

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@@mynewcolour well of course. But I can also run my car on used vegetable oil. Just saying the film photography for most that use mainstream processing/film stock is not sustainable nor convenient. It is however really fun and enjoyable. The original comment, highlighted 35mm hp5. I don’t see a huge benefit of 35mm film over full frame digital Leica. Unless of course you’re print SG images. Medium format/4x5 I believe provides enough aesthetic benefit to justify cost, processing time and environmental impact.

@johnkasianowicz6536

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I like film, but precisely how would film wipe the floor with the M11 Monochrom?