*Firefighters:* [Engulfed in flames] *Head Firefighter:* "Everyone's fine, yea".

@firejam78

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair the fire kit they wear will protect them enough to continue that would have been hot but they would have been back to how they were before the explosion pretty quickly

@darylprescott8130

4 жыл бұрын

@@firejam78I believed its called turnout gear not fire Kit lmao

@firejam78

4 жыл бұрын

@@darylprescott8130 not in the UK

@darylprescott8130

4 жыл бұрын

@@firejam78 I stand corrected

@matthewwainwright6366

4 жыл бұрын

James Williams at my station on we call it bunker gear

Fire fighter takes explosion to the face and gets knocked down. Gets back up, continuing to fight. Good job sir!

@index-exprofessionals4411

4 жыл бұрын

Fire Fighters caused the Explosion

@ianwalton284

3 жыл бұрын

He don't need no eyebrows anyhow.

@shhmule

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, bad job. Firefighters are trained not to be heroes, and that only idiots take unnecessary risks. These firefighters endangered themselves, and their crew.

@csnider_1281

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianwalton284 I damn hope he has his SCBA on at an industrial fire.

@ArsonistArborist

3 жыл бұрын

@@csnider_1281 all four of them had their SCBA's on

"It has a little bit of a concussive force" *Small dust blast puts 3 big guys in 70 pounds of fire gear on their ass from the shockwave*

@YoungLeosword

Жыл бұрын

Eh, not like getting hit by a blast of refined material, in numerous cases of which one may die…

*Is it Hot* ..... Na Fire is very cold and safe

@Sirisma

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the fuel Triethylborane will ignite at -20C Not a stupid question at all, just appears stupid because of the context and due to general ignorance

@molai1961

6 жыл бұрын

Sirisma : Not sure what you mean by "triethylborane will ignite at -20C", its melting point is around -90C and boiling point is around +90C. The issue in this thread is: something is burning, is it hot? So, by analogy: triethylborane is burning, is it hot? The question was, and still is, stupid, whatever the context, including the type of fuel involved. Ignorance? Yeah, a bit in your comment. Common sense needed.

@hairyputter5363

4 жыл бұрын

@@molai1961 well no it wasn't a stupid question at all. You WILL find people asking that a lot of times. The safety standards are different to fight off fires at different temperatures. You can't stand to a radiation fire like you would do to a forest fire. That was a completely normal question but general population might find it a little absurd.

@gearreviewwithswampy5794

4 жыл бұрын

Nova Dusty some fire r hot if it’s big it’s real hot if it is a ground fire like a small fire it’s not that hot and it sometimes fuel gas fire is hotter than a house fire

"is it very hot, is it dangerous" - reporters when they're digging down the question barrel..

@bluecollarcanuck

3 жыл бұрын

That's the level of "media" for you nowadays. I swear, they're deliberately dumbing the population down.

When I was in Ohio in the early 80s I was sitting in the living room with dad and my sister, and she was about 1. Suddenly there was a loud boom and shake. 5 minutes later we saw all the fire trucks from town start heading south. We followed them, and found that a grain elevator blew up. That was about 4 miles as the crow flies. 4 miles and we felt the rumble. Dust can be very dangerous.

@Syclone0044

6 жыл бұрын

Randall Banks was it the Westwego Elevator Disaster linked on the right side of my screen?

@brokentombot

3 жыл бұрын

Large amounts of fine grain hydrocarbons (wood dust, grain dust, etc) will be similar when ignited as that of a bomb.

@bobbg9041

2 жыл бұрын

We've had at least 3 grain. Elevators explode and you felt and heard all 3 5 to 7 miles away.

@bobbg9041

2 жыл бұрын

@@brokentombot Wood dust isn't quite that dry, it depends how dry the wood is lint from your dryer is more flammable.

@brokentombot

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbg9041 good point

That's why you wear PPE

@ffjsb

7 жыл бұрын

But NOT a reflective vest... And you don't need to be on air when you're just flaking out hose.

@1970guppy

7 жыл бұрын

+ffjsb depends how close you are

@ffjsb

7 жыл бұрын

Wearing a vest on a fire is pointless.

@1970guppy

7 жыл бұрын

+ffjsb I wasn't talking about the vest but if they weren't wearing PPE there would of been serious injuries.

@ffjsb

7 жыл бұрын

I'm pointing out that you should NOT wear a reflective vest on a fire as they are not rated for fire and will melt if exposed to heat and flame. You are completely correct about wearing the rest of your PPE.

Firefighters are definitely the bravest. Thank you to them all.

@timburki456

Жыл бұрын

I once maintained arousal while looking at a Spanish man dressed as a fireman.

I've never before in my life seen somebody become completely engulfed in flames and walk away perfectly fine.

@emmakai2243

4 жыл бұрын

Never seen an action movie?

They are so lucky they did not get injured. My gosh.

@hamburgerjung3505

6 жыл бұрын

With good gear you can be in a fireball for more than 4-5 sec. without getting any injuries.

@Syclone0044

6 жыл бұрын

Tore Lehmann What's the maximum duration you'd expect?

@shadowbanned5164

4 жыл бұрын

Without the oxygen masks they would have been in serious trouble.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

@@Syclone0044 you never want to be in a fireball and how long you can last depends a lot on the conditions,... but let's phrase it that way: the firefighter will be unconcious due to a heatstroke before the gear is burned through even with the gear shit can get really really hot,.. and what is really dangerous if the vapor protection layer is not properly working then you can literally boil yourself if there is water around (quite common with a hose)

@classicambo9781

3 жыл бұрын

Blast injuries can also be life threatening.

I rec'd 2nd degree burns on my arms and scalp from a dust collector fire in June at work, it was connected to a CNC router, and yes, it was grounded but static is not the only source of fires. The entire facility- 4 buildings burned to the ground because of a Oneida dust collector which was made entirely out of PLASTIC and installed inside the building with the CNC. Ive been recovering at home now the last 8 weeks.

Glad everyone is ok. You guys deserve every dollar you earn plus more.

Dust Explosion. The rapid propagation of flame of finely divided particles.

Glad you guys are Ok

Buddy in the lime green safety vest has the quickest reaction time I’ve ever seen. It almost looks like his body was in motion before you could even tell there was gonna be an explosion. 😂😂

0:35 "SLIGHT DUST EXPLOSION"

you can thank the fire safety engineers, best protection

Shoutout to all the firefighters !

Nice job, men. You never know what is gonna happen. Takes guts to look a fire in the face.

Is "skid marks" appropriate condition for new PPE?

this would have been easier to handle if the hopper say... had a dry riser going to the top. a wet load will be very very heavy, but its better than fire in the whole shop from a dust explosion blowback

This is NOT an Explosion, it is a flash fire. Explosion is characterized by a pressure wave, and in this case there is no pressure wave, otherwise the firefighters would have been blasted away some meters (at least) and the building would have been damaged to some extent. Dust explosions are very rare (if not impossible )in the open space, there must be confinement. The video is impressive, but also shows that firefighters usually do not know how to fight industrial fires: 1. they were standing too close-in cases of fires that can escalate, you don't hand/hold the noozle, but use noozles with tripod that operate on their own (water monitors they are called) and watch from safe distance. 2. by throwing water into the vessel through the booom , they dispersed the dust in the vessel, fueled the fire and caused this flash fire. Water should be applied smoothly, in a form of water fog-noozles provide this setting. 3. They throw water to the surface of the vessel, which may be OK if you want to cool the vessel, but in this case the water jet is very narrow and should be like a curtain -noozles provide this adjustment. This is done again with self operating noozles and not with hand held hoses. 4. the firefighters want always to "face attack" the fire and put away quickly, but in a fire like this, you need to apply lots of water from the top (and from a safe distance) and soak the dust.Owners of installations must provide specific guidance to the firefighters, explaining the details that make each industrial fire unique. This cannot be done easily during the event. They should have settled in advance, a relationship of trust and common approach, by common fire drills and discussions.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

there is a blast wave,...

This is why it is so important to make sure the baghouse at wood working businesses is closed for maintenance once a year and cleaned out thoroughly. Someone may have also mistakenly had sparks from a machine get sucked into the baghouse causing the fire.

"...small dust fire..." *fireball erupts, man tossed, people fleeing *

Salute to you all !

He: a slight dust explosion Reality: huge Hollywood fireball

questions like how did the fire start would make more sense. Reporter: WaS iT HoT?

@glennkometscher7928

3 жыл бұрын

OK Karen

@fullsendit3107

3 жыл бұрын

@@glennkometscher7928 I'm gonna speak to your fricken manager for calling me a Karen I have kids you know KIDS! I'm 16 btw and none of this is true

U risked your life to save others

Wow, nice Vid. Yepp Dust will be dangerous, sometimes.

For almost a minute, the crew observed the dust leaking out and igniting. It was at that point the crew officer should have pulled his crew back to a safe distance, rather than allowing them to continue working in that environment. I'm a firefighter in New Zealand, and your own life is not worth it to save a building.

The green vest indicates the incident commander.

@Matt_TX

5 жыл бұрын

John Boyes safety*

I hope they are okay

Fire fighters in the fire: I HAVE BEEN REBORN FROM THE PHEONIX!!! I HAVE TRANCENDED BEYOND THE PETTY SQUABLES OF HUMANS!!

I worked at an LP osb factory their were fires inside the plant like every day!!!!! It gets pretty crazy!!!

@douro20

5 жыл бұрын

How did that happen?

Epic work men.

That was actually pretty cool. I finally got to see an event where their protective gear did its job. Now I want to be a fireman(the good kind, not the British kind).

This gives fire fighters a whole new meaning

Respect

"Dust Explosion" Reporter: iS iT vErY hOt, Is iT dAnGeRoUs?

@johnjon4688

3 жыл бұрын

well, in reality, this fireball may not have been much hotter than a flare-up on your grill. Dust fires are pretty quick when they are outside. The much larger concern there was if it had shaken the entire hopper empty. If that had been full and emptied because of the dust explosion, that cameraman would have been in serious trouble. Conflagration from dust is extraordinarily dangerous. It's actually a bit surprising that they were hitting it with water from below, and not also from above. I suppose they may have not wanted to create a chimney. But if a chunk had blocked that lower hole, it could had led to a compression explosion and conflagration of the entire contents of the hopper. And those explosions are BIG.

@glennkometscher7928

3 жыл бұрын

OK Karen repeating others comments so original 🙄🙄🙄🙄just looking for likes 🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄

i've been barely caught in a dust flash while assisting in evacuation. Knocked me on my ass, exposed skin had some light burns. I wasnt wearing fire gear, but was wearing a arc and fire rated jumpsuit, gloves and helmet. It was not an experience i'd like to repeat.

Awesome people.

One important thing: Dust explosions, including wood dust explosions, are really heavy events. If there is a lot of dust around, and it doesn't require much fire, please consider doing something about it. If there is saw dust on the ceiling rafters, please clean it all out. It can catch fire, and explode many times, if you do not clean away pig piles of dust. not just bunnies, dust of any material. If you want to see more, search on youtube for: USCSB kzread.info

@index-exprofessionals4411

4 жыл бұрын

Dust Pentagon

And THAT's why well trained and smart FF's wear all of our turnouts and an air pack !!!!! Cuz ya never know. I've had a few close calls as well and the gear made the difference between going home and going to the hospital.

The straight streams stirred up the dust but covered very little with water so the dust, air and flame mixture went, Boom!

That's a Great example of why a straight stream at close range is worthless at soaking all the burning material.

@greyman686

6 жыл бұрын

As per usual, JB has all the answers.

@JB91710

6 жыл бұрын

And as usual, you have nothing to offer!

@greyman686

6 жыл бұрын

JB91710 Who am I to disappoint, Jack?

@daveskritterkingdom

6 жыл бұрын

A fog pattern would have been much better, JB is right. Or a combination of different streams.

@lindanwfirefighter4973

4 жыл бұрын

Seen it so many times! Entering a building on straight stream is foolish. It cannot cool the environment. They are so shocked at the difference when you widen the pattern a bit. It has its place but it’s not the be all to end all.

There is not even a open Flame needed.A little Electric spark caused for Example by nailed Shoes could be enough.

My thoughts on dust - and them....I would have thought(right?) Situation....Recognized! One guy camps close, with SPRAY to saturate(potentially) air/area, the other guy cuts the gut with straight jet....They did this to themselves

@igorglisic2883

4 жыл бұрын

Spray patterns also force a lot of air into the fire.

Woah! Thank goodness for that fire protected suit.

Look up the flour explosions from back in the day in Minneapolis/St. Paul. People don’t think powder/dust can explode.

Can I ask a stupid question ? Why was exhaust dust explode ?

@stnicholas54

5 жыл бұрын

The correct combination of wood dust, heat and oxygen,

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

fire burns faster the more area can be get in contact with oxygen so if dust is shaken up the surface area suddenly increases like 1000 times or greater, so you have an explosion that itself spreads even more dust

To create your own dust explosion experiment, get a long length of tubing. Stick one end of the long tube to a flat surface. Cover the opening of the tube with a handful of cornflour (custard powder). Place a lit tealight candle in the pile of dust or next to the dust. Cover with a large tin or a bucket... From a good distance away (that is why it is a long tube you use) blow through the tube... The pile of dust becomes airborne, ignites on the candle, burns rapidly and look out for a flying bucket.

These guys have huge kahones. Braveheart a, the lot.🇨🇦😊⛑️

I have learned as Firefighter at a possible dust fire allways to use Spray never Full power Water.I think they caused self that Dust-Explosion.

@BenjaminEsposti

6 жыл бұрын

So true! The heavy stream disturbs the dust. That's actually what causes dust explosions in factories. For whatever reason, when some dust gets disturbed it can ignite (like from a spark or a hot torch, or a hot bearing), and the pressure of the sudden flash fire disturbs more dust, which furthers the flash fire. It's not a detonation, but the pressures can still reach high enough levels to cause structural collapse. Usually the dust in dust explosions/fires was collected on beams and other high-up places that people don't normally see.

@SwiftyMcV

6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Esposti surface temperature is enough to cause a fire Wet dust is even more conductive and combustible

The fact this is where I love is kinda scary

You would think that dust collectors of this size would be required to have at least one sprinkler head inside. Also, what purpose using a fog stream from underheath, except to push more air into the confined space of the hopper?!! That only feeds the fire with more air. This is the place for a solid stream, not a hollow fog cone.

@reyhudson563

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, and no... maybe! "Rope" spray flushes LOTS of oxygen with it, fog (theoretically) saturates the air more, with less pressure... still. Piles of bark don't (oddly enough) START burning (wouldn't you just know it!) till the rainy weather comes.

@washingtonwebfoot9908

5 жыл бұрын

@@reyhudson563 Worked security at lumber mill once. Smelled smoke and called the fire department, sure it was the kiln. Turned out to be the wet hog fuel pile.

@index-exprofessionals4411

4 жыл бұрын

Ya NO, wet dust is more conductive ... and you are soaking electrical equipment

Everyone runs out yelling "Fire!" Fireman walks in saying, "Lets dance B!"

I wonder what must have went through their my mind, what they saw and what they felt, being completely engulfed in flames. I mean, it's definitely not an experience a normal human being is excepted to ever go through, it must be strange to know that for a solid 2 second, your entire body was surrounded by fire and was fine.

@croniqz

3 жыл бұрын

It wasnt as bad as it looked, PPE is fire resistant for up to about 5-6 seconds before it starts to disintegrate, look up the cali explosion that happened at a weed oil dispensary, it was alot worst then this. Alot of firefighters got serious burns

And the answer is drop water down on the fire not up the burning grain chute

I know that place. picked up several truck loads of furniture from them.

@dwightstjohn6927

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder who the BC Safety Officer is for that company??!!

glad there safe

Question: wouldn't it be better to use nitrogen and fill the bottom area with the stuff to restrict the air around the fire. Slowly filling the area up with a flow of nitrogen air from a (perhaps) liquid nitrogen tank. That would de-crease the risk of the fire finding itself in a flammable area. The water only covers a certain area...

@MultiPureEnergy

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure I quite understand what you are suggesting they do, however, the reason they don’t fight fire with nitrogen in open areas is due to air movement. Fires will create quite a lot of movement in the air around them, otherwise they would self extinguish when they’d consumed enough oxygen. Nitrogen also is almost the same density as air, since air is mostly Nitrogen already. This means that it won’t “pool” in low lying areas, unless it is cold. However, a fire would heat the nitrogen and negate any pooling effect.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

@@MultiPureEnergy that's why we would use CO2 instead of nitrogen as an inert gas to extinguish fires, it's also heavier than air, making it perfect to fight a fire in a ditch or in a closed room

They were so close because they didn’t know that could happen.

Thank goodness they had their PPE on!

And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why PPE is worn! Unprotected, that could have been really nasty. With correct PPE? Change of undershorts back at the station after you get up and are just fine.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

well the PPE protects mostly against burns in this case they are still subject to the blast and quite a lot of heat

@komitadjie

3 жыл бұрын

@@Markus-zb5zd I would think that the SCBA, face shields and bunker gear should protect pretty well against a flashburns and lung injury from an instantaneous, ultra-short burst of heat and flame like this, though... As opposed to the damage a half-second of being immersed totally in flame could cause without eye, skin and respiratory protection. If the blast was more powerful or the heat sustained, yeah, it likely wouldn't do much.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

@@komitadjie I am a firefighter, though over in germany been engulfed in flames only once in full bunker gear with mask and everthing, believe me, it's getting freakin hot!,... my crewman also passed out from the blast,... had to call a Mayday, though got him out myself,... after I dragged him out and I lifted my mask and dropped the jacket I was told I was steaming... like literally,... oh and I was throwing up, doc said it was due to the heat shock none of us were seriously hurt either, but as I said, the gear mainly protects against burns and massively lowers the impact of heat,... but it doesn't negate it,... though the effects are a lot stronger inside of a building than in the open.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

also that's the reason why most countries have a paramedic escort if the firefighters are expected to use BAs,... to be able to respond quickly and treat potential heat shocks or heat strokes and everything else that might happen to the firefighters as I'm a volunteer we have a very diverse volunteer department and we literally have an emergency doctor that is dressing up with us when he's not on duty, so we have paramedics and a doctor in such cases

@komitadjie

3 жыл бұрын

@@Markus-zb5zd That sure seems wise as a precaution!

Jesus Christ, I have so much respect for firefighters.

Note to self: never try to fight a dust fire without full firefighting PPE

@_bobjohnson1157

Жыл бұрын

Or using a truck mounted deck gun at a safe distance if possible.

You gotta respect the firefighters

Worst safety officer ever! Should have pulled back soon as the fire ran up.

Not lucky there, just great training and wearing your gear properly. Great example why FF's survive, because they are smart not blind smoke eaters acting tough.

@ibindare

5 жыл бұрын

My dad was an old-school smoke eater for a small volunteer fire department when I was growing up. Later, after my military service (which included shipboard and aviation firefighting), I worked at a fire department in the next township. We received a mutual aid call to assist the adjoining township at a house fire. We arrived on the scene and I was assigned to a search team. We approached the front door of the house and my dad comes out of the door, wreathed in smoke and says "It's empty." He was in his street clothes and had been working nearby when the call came in. We are all standing there in full turnout gear staring at him.

They were very lucky that the discharge of the baghouse vented the majority of the deflagration. You can see smoke forced out of the clean air ducting on the roof due to the pressure spike in the entire system. This is a full on dust explosion inside the baghouse that was vented out the discharge. This baghouse has no explosion rupture panels, so this could have easily resulted in a complete baghouse explosion. If properly designed, all explosive dust baghouse should have explosion rupture panels and an internal sprinkler system at a minimum.

man them suits are good

It has *a bit* of a concussion field 😂. So those firefighters in hundreds of pounds of gear were knocked over by a bit of a concussion field 😂😂😂

@tommcadam9897

4 жыл бұрын

"...hundreds of pounds of gear..." Seriously? How about 35-40 pounds.

Clearly that spokesman wasn't there.

should have open the cone effect causing a protection for the attack and one line and the other direct steam

@index-exprofessionals4411

4 жыл бұрын

Ya... NO. The fire Fighters caused the explosion ... and your idea would as well.

That would be so intense to be in...

Did the gentleman with the hose purposefully poor the water on himself when he dipped down? Is that some sort of standard reactionary procedure they're trained to do?

@justinmello9677

4 жыл бұрын

Probably not, in a panic he probably dropped the hose and it was spraying him but no training that is taught tells you to spray yourself, that I know of

Is it the concussion or the fireball that they have to worry about most in these types of explosions?

@ibindare

5 жыл бұрын

Former Firefighter. The concussion is dangerous because if it is big enough you can have internal injuries, and be knocked into objects or struck by flying objects that can also cause injuries, like broken bones; The fireball danger varies depending on the material that is burning and the PPE the firefighter is wearing - and if it is being worn correctly. The PPE should cover all skin (turnout coat, bunker pants, gloves, Nomex balaclava, helmet, boots). Dressed, the turnout gear (PPE) only leaves the face exposed, which is then covered by the facepiece of the SCBA. In addition to protecting from the heat, the PPE also provides a very limited amount of padding that helps protect the body from impact injuries. That being said, it ain't no suit of armor.

@Markus-zb5zd

3 жыл бұрын

the blast is more dangerous initially though the heat can be dangerous afterwards,... you don't insantly notice a heatstroke, it's a sneacky shit

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego right there...

Glad they were OK, the one guy probably needs new undies.

The power of PPE

I remember this i was just a couple blocks away

@andrewhorizon8066

3 жыл бұрын

And I once worked at this place.

Heroes.

I wonder if a water bomber could have had a safer snuffing effect on that hopper? also, when the water bomber approaches, firefighters get well away so they are free from meny unexpected dangers, such as dust explosion etc.

Scary

I mean it’s not the dust meeting o2 making it ignite it the fine particles of the dust rapidly combusting

Thats your typical approach to 90% of fires. Surround and Drowned

There is no such thing as a controlled fire! Fire is unpredictable

@tommcadam9897

4 жыл бұрын

Not so. Fire is chemistry and physics. If you understand them and apply those principles to fire behavior, fire is predictable.

And I quote " I say we take off , and nuke the entire site from orbit" (Ripley Aliens)

A *SLIGHT* dust explosion

its not the first time it happen

Bear in mind, as combustible dust explosions go this one was absolutely puny.

They are using WRONG extinguishing thing for that fire! Water has HUGE mass and just push the air to the dust feeding the fires! In the larger building that could result in explosion!

Is the fire very hot. "No in dust explosions its the COLD kind of fire" WTF

Yoohoo!!!

Firemen are heros

@devonbeyond8081

5 жыл бұрын

Yep spiderman has a saying with great power comes great responsibility

Thank goodness for modern fire kit (turnout gear).

Wow I live here

Good job wearing masks there. I hope i would have done the same. Damn

Firefighters are so bad ass

Fire is very cold and safe

@glennkometscher7928

3 жыл бұрын

Repeat others comments how original , looking for likes 🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄