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@airquads

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the typical game that is supposed to make you addictive, steals tons of your time and is packed with shitty in game purchases. Sad to see you advertise such a garbage.

@SAFbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Baaaaahhhh did you use Sacred Geometry to design this contraption???? Times is tough need to get that $$$ where you can

Drib, your fire extinguisher is too close to where the fire would be. It won't help you if it's engulfed in flames. Put it closer to the entrance of that room so you can grab it one the way into the room and also grab it and use it to escape the room if needed.

Storing Lipos in an air tight metal container like the ammo box is a bad idea Drew whoever told you so. When a Lipo battery goes off the burning is very volatile (as you know) and the pressure builds up so fast it eventually can explode because the closed lid. The burning needs very small amount of oxygen the box just has enough to make the thing go off. I use three ammo boxes and the very first thing I did to drill vent holes on them after seeing what can happen when only one 1300mAh 4S goes off with the lid closed. We tried it in a garage (with opened garage door) with my pal and thankfully we could kick the whole thing out to the open air but trust me closing the lid was a bad thing. I can only imagine what could happen when there are 10-15 batteries closely laying inside the box. If there are vent holes the burning will generate massive amount of fumes and smoke but the pressure cannot build up and hopefully you have time to grab the thing and throw outside the house but without the holes the only thing you will notice is some hissing and a big bang with the rest of the Lipos flying everywhere some probably also on fire. Please drill some holes!

Given the number of batteries I have (and you have), there's really no difference between the teeny drone batteries we use and that beefy RC car pack. Once one goes off, they all do. I just got a two bat safes (one for charging and one for storage) and called it a day. $120 is a lot less than cleaning up a burnt corner, which is the least amount of damage these would give.

Two things that should be mentioned in this video but weren't: 1. REMOVE THE SEAL FROM AN AMMO CAN OR DRILL HOLES! Otherwise, you just made a shrapnel bomb should a LIPO fire break out inside of it. 2. People should understand that a fire extinguisher will NOT put out a LIPO fire. The VERY first thing you need to do is get the burning LIPO OUTSIDE ASAP. Drew, you might consider that - is this setup gonna allow you to easily toss the LIPO out if on fire. Having it charging in a container that you can grab and toss without burning yourself is critical. The fire extinguisher can only put out secondary fires caused by the LIPO fire, not the fire itself! Also, everyone, consider buying a Bat-Safe. They address all this. Sure, they're expensive, but they even filter soot out to prevent smoke damage.

@ferdifant_fpv686

3 жыл бұрын

I have one of those, they’re awsome!

@TheMadmacs

3 жыл бұрын

good points, i use metal trays to charge so i can pick up and move outside

@divingfalconfpv4602

3 жыл бұрын

Yea been eyeing bat-safe.. I started with small lipo crappy bag. But not I have like 57 batteries and growing.. I keep them by porch door incase anything I can throw them out the door hoping. If fast enough

@Cre8ionz.

3 жыл бұрын

Bat-Safe for indoors, ammo can for outdoors !

@buckstarchaser2376

3 жыл бұрын

When I was a kid, I got some place to (reluctantly) sell me a chunk of dry ice. I stored it in an ammo can, with the seal intact. It inflated like a balloon, but safely released what pressure it could not contain. I later joined the army, and quickly found that this kind of outcome is the result of billions of dollars of research and development. It's commonly referred to as "private-proofing". Also, those ammo cans are intended to keep ammo protected from war-related hardships, and that includes internal and external fires. You have an ammo dump, and the enemy is going to want to fling mortars at it. When a mortar hits your ammo dump, you don't want your ammo cans to become "shrapnel bombs" near your precious and indispensable supply personnel. Kinda explains how ammo cans were chosen for such a task. To add another bit of wisdom, a battery that goes off, closely resembles a chemical fire in a laboratory. Laboratory workers also have countless dollars (and traumatic experience) that have developed some of the best technology for dealing with arbitrary substances that have begun a runaway chemical reaction... It involves 2 metal buckets that are half-full of sand. When you have an emergency, there is no time to consider the various interactions of this and that fire suppression substances, so you just throw it into the sand bucket, and then dump the sand from the second bucket on top. The sand won't contain pressure, but they will baffle the hot gasses of reaction, reducing the likeliness of producing a flame jet (like the one shown in this video). Interestingly, the sand buckets and the ammo can are doing the same thing, which is to withstand and contain the reaction, while releasing the spent gasses in a controlled and safe-er manner.

Best is to put sand laying on a plastic bag above while charging 🙂 On fire the plastic will melt and the sand will fall down.

@towers3372

3 жыл бұрын

oof would not want to clean up the resulting mess

@ptomeo

3 жыл бұрын

@@towers3372 beats cleaning up after a fire

@RCRitterFPV

3 жыл бұрын

@@towers3372 cat litter bin below? just falls into bin?

@towers3372

3 жыл бұрын

@@RCRitterFPV good idea

@revertfpv2928

3 жыл бұрын

@@RCRitterFPV but hot air will go upwards and it’s more likely to burn upwards

That one-pack rip at the end was one of the best single takes I think you've ever done!!! Love all the playing in the trees

I'm using a Bat-Safe for storing and charging my LiPOs and I feel much safer since I got it. In the tests that I've seen it did much better than an ammo box, but as you said I just hope to never have to test it' effectiveness myself.

@heroflying

3 жыл бұрын

Bat-Safe's are by far the best solution. Expensive, but worth it, and even prevent smoke damage.

@gurjindersingh6159

3 жыл бұрын

Smoke damage meaning inhaling the fumes? Or smoke damage to things around it?

@gurjindersingh6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@heroflying I feel like if you drilled holes into a Anmo can, no way it’ll blow the top off

@heroflying

3 жыл бұрын

@@gurjindersingh6159 Correct, it won't blow off... it'll also let all the soot out and damage cause smoke damage. As in haling the fumes? I mean... kinda. It would filter some of that. As in smoke damage to things around it? Yes.

"don't ever think of it as fire-proof". *Puts fire proof in video title*

@erikwillingham7342

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he DID include a question mark after "fireproof"

@captainthruster9484

Жыл бұрын

It is a question in the title. That's why there is a question mark👍

@Frosttyy12

Жыл бұрын

@@captainthruster9484 it wasn't there when I posted👍

Great idea Drew, I made a battery bunker with a cinder block rapped in sheet rock long ago. Cinder block has a sliding sheet rock door so I can charge inside block, with charger out side of block. Cinder block has two cavities one storage one for charging. Big Belly RC Santa Cruz Ca.

So freakin smooth! Always a pleasure to watch Thank you!

Excellent flying Drib, thanks for the tips 🔥🔥🔥.

Practical quickie fire proofing! Good light, bad light, it does not matter to me, always love your flight footage. Forever fan.

I have tested that fire resistant paneling, and it probably saved my house. Definitely worth using. :)

Thanks so much for this useful sharing, man 👊👍🙏

I found a lipo bag that fits perfectly into the specific ammo can I have, which is the setup I've been using for a while. The nice thing is the lipo bag fits in my backpack as well so I have a little extra safety on the go.

I love the paint job on you traxxas in the back

@LeDribFPV

3 жыл бұрын

;)

I store and transport my packs in plastic canisters that sunflower seeds come in. They fit 4s and 5s packs I use perfectly. They sit in a back pack great as well. Free hard cases resistive to punctures, keeps leads from shorting out. Free and recycles something that is normally waste. Also if you are worried about lipo fires build your upper box with the board you use but set a metal grate over top covered with 1 mil plastic or a trash bag for that matter then make a layer of play sand over that. When the plastic melts from fire the sand flows down and auto smothers the fire nearly instantly.

Aerogel is one answer to thermal insulation from a lipo fire. It's incredible stuff, do some KZread searches for aerogel. In it's standalone form it's quite delicate, but there is a version of it woven into fiberglass blankets. The price of it reflects its ability to withstand temperatures, high on both counts.

Le Drib, I spent under $15 last week on my new battery bunker. A few 8x8x8 concrete blocks with vertical holes in them, a few 2x8x16 solid blocks for a top and bottom. Blends right into my garage, and fire proof...charging happens in Lipo bags on porcelain coated metal trays, and gallon sized zip lock bags of sand within reach. Simple, cheap and effective protection for the home!

You can usually find used fire cabinets online for around $100 which is cheaper, and much bigger then a batt safe. Also, you should drill some holes in the top of the ammo boxes to release any pressure from the fire. You basically have a small bomb otherwise.

Looks great Drew

Nice to see a top pilot flying an everyman lipo like the funfly! :)

Use battery pouch when charging so you will be able to throw them outside of something happens and as well to storage but ammo box is good as well

That tree gap at 10:04 blew my mind. I didn't see it coming

I need that poster above that station!

you are right, safety, especially with lipo batteries, is very important! hmmm..but I have a completely different question that torments me ... I have a problem with the DJI FPV system (transmitter) whenever i fly longer distances or in caves i have the much worse signal on 2.4ghz but the 5.8ghz is still very good. do you have any tips and tricks in this regard?

It's always a good idea to set up some lipo bunker. But did you remove the rubber gasket from ammo box? In the case of battery fire ammo box would get pressurized making a granate. You can drill some holes for pressure to escape and direct fumes into the smoke sensor. You can also remove lid all together and put on top a bag of sand. The idea is that when the batteries catch fire plastic bag will melt and sand will fill the ammo box taking fire out. Also it looks like your metal shelf is painted and paint is flammable.

Hey Drew! How many lipos do normally bring along on a trip/vacation? And in what way is the best? Also in an ammo crate or bat-safe? I'm planning my stuff for next summer fpv mountain surfing in Austria/Germany.

Thanks. I must make something. For charging, I put the packs in an ammo box without lid. On top of the box is a plastic bag full of dry sand. The idea is that, if a pack catches fire, it will melt the bag and the sand will put out the fire. The Ammo box sits on my old lipo bags to keep the heat off my wooden laminate floor. I like the idea of metal shelves as charging on the floor is pretty pants. I just keep my lipos in a toolbox on the basis they won't combust if I'm not charging them. I guess there is always that small chance so I'll buy another couple of ammo boxes!

Good video😎👍 I use ammo cans too but I need to make my charging station more fire resistant.

Yeah Drew really nice vid' 😉

hardiebacker board my friend. used to lay tile.

I'm thinking about some metal case with a charging station or just some metal case so you can kinda close it if something happens

I also use an ammo can. BUT, I also use fire resistant lipo bags/cases inside the can to give some separation and prevent shorting to the can. Seems like overkill, but I can sleep with this. The smaller lipo containers also permit some logical grouping by type/age/connector/etc. BTW - Surely you use more than one ammo can. Mine is packed.

But the whole thing is held together with plastic ty wraps.

you *NEED* to remove the seal. The seal / ammo can are strong enough to be effectively air tight until they explode. not like it's going to detonate like a bomb... but it will send out a jet of flames from wherever it ruptures rather than just blowing out smoke from around the top if you remove the seal.

Buy fiberboard that is fire rated, nomex fabric is also a lipo users friend and not that expensive. You can multi layer it and cover/smother a lipo fire by hand even move flaming one with welding gloves on.

I've got an ⅛ scale Mugen MBX7TR Off Road 4wd Truggy that I've put a DJI HD FPV Air Unit and Camera on. Works pretty good a little jello cuz it's a nitro truggy so I assume The vibration of the engine is probably causing the jello but it's not bad... It's really weird when you hit a jump and launch 8 or 10 foot in the air and you have to hit the brakes to nose the front down so that you can see where you're going to land cuz the camera is pointing at the sky...

Hey drew how do you found sooo good spots how do you source for spots?

Very effective and low-cost solution. Just one thing: the fire extinguisher is too close to the "fire risk area" and you may not be able to get to if that area is engulfed.. You are assuming you catch the fire almost instantly ...just move it away (but still within easy reach). And make sure you have one rated for chemical fires... many households extinguishers are not, with the retardant spray being different for different types of accelerants.

I keep my lipos in the garage but in the winter I take them out and I leave them in the house and a storage mode and lipo fire-safe bags is it safe when the batteries or are in their storage mode to keep them in the house?

Is that a water extinguisher? might not be the best choice to spray around a live charger! Dry powder or CO2 probably best options.

Good video, i keep saying im going to do something like that in my room where i charge at, I really need to. lot better then what you was doing for sure. I think i would seal all the parts where they meet just for more protection.. as you said we hope we never need to test if it works or not.

hallow I'm new to this and I all redy love it

If you’re going to use an ammunition can to store your batteries you need to open the lid and trim out about a 1 inch section of the rubber gasket under the lid. If you do not and one of the batteries were to go off inside can you have now created basically a pipe bomb. The huge amount of pressure inside could explode the can and burn your house down. If you take a little piece of the gasket out it will vent the gas out but it will not let flames out.

What 3D printer do you use?

Not a bad idea. I think I will create a MDF/Plywood mobile cart on wheels and line it with cement board.

I would think a chemical fire might burn alot higher temperature. Have you tried a torch lighter on the concrete material to see if it reacts the same ?...im just guessing but still enjoyed this video.

Hears another tip for you Have a per of ( Oven Gloves ) next to the charger, makes it quick and easy to pick up the lipo and drop it into a bucket of water / sand

@timm1065

3 жыл бұрын

I drilled a small hole through a huge cooking pot and run my charger leads into it. put a metal lid on it and viola... Lipo charging safe. but, good idea, I just went and got some pot holders from the kitchen.

If you have an intense fire you might not be able to reach your fire extinguisher because of the heat. I'd place it a few feet further away from your charging station. Also, not sure of this, but if a battery starts to smoke and you have the fan going above it blowing the smoke away from the smoke detector, it could delay the smoke detector from triggering.

I use a fire proof safe for charging and storage . You can find used safes on Craigslist for under $50 or if you want a lot of room pick up a fire proof gun safe then build sheet rock shelves to separate it in to multiple layers and drill a hole on the back to pass power through for charging and lightning and so if on does go off there is no pressure build up

Bro can you make a video where you explain how a brushless RC Car is build and how to start with. Because i want a RC car but I dont know what i have to buy. I am flying since 2016 FPV... i would be happy if you do. Wanna know your experiance with RC CARS

where'd you get a white hota d6 charger?

Drew are you mostly a 4s or 6s man when it comes to freestyle?

Not to get off topic but, I don't know how to dm ya so I'll just ask here.. Is it possible to btf with a ps controller. I know the Tello drone is capable and I would imagine dji isn't but, is it possible to with other drones? If so, how would I go about it and what kind of drones are capable? I would imagine the 'build your own' are more capable but, is it possible to rebind with an rtf or btf? I can't find anything on it for the life of me except for Tello..

i was waiting for that 2 gap dive on the roof

Drib, I feel like the zip ties you used to attach it to the metal stand will just melt in a real fire, and would cause your sheeting to fall off and might expose the wall to catch on fire? Just my two cents. Maybe attach it with metal clips somehow instead? Granted, most fires will probably happen while charging so i think your solution is more than sufficient anyways

Could your fire detector really work with this big fan that should blow away the smokes that come from lipos?

@nkronert

3 жыл бұрын

I always wonder how toxic the fumes of a lipo fire are. A fan should blow them outside, through a fire resistant piping of course.

Drew - FYI, there are smoke detectors that have automatic power cutoffs, so that if it goes off it will cut off power to your charger. An added thing that can help if you have a momentary lapse.

@Pile_of_carbon

3 жыл бұрын

That's pretty cool. =)

@urlawyer

3 жыл бұрын

Pile of carbon Yeah, it’s mainly useful for 3D printers where cutting off the power can cut off heat that’s contributing to a fire. With Lipos, once one is lit it will keep going, but cutting off power might avoid other lipos that you’re parallel charging form going up immediately.

Im proud that im still using dx9 on my quads

@timm1065

3 жыл бұрын

Im still on a Dx7s.... but to be fair, i ordered a Radiomaster tonight.... Its such a hard Tx to make work for Quads... hell i dont even know that quads were a thing when i bought it.

I store my batteries outside of the house in the garage in metal tins with the batries been in lipo bags.

I use a BattSafe and i made a squid style parallel charging cables because a parallel board wont fit in.

I never charge in the house and only store them there for the winter. A fire-proof box would be great for storage, too

DUDE awesome vid. that we needed so much. one thought to consider >>fireproof blanket

No way i see raid shadow add here too🤦‍♂️

@LeDribFPV

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t miss your chance for all that free silver!! 😂

@SettekFpv

3 жыл бұрын

@@LeDribFPV no.. Just no 🤣 I better fly some packs more instant of waste my Money in a Micropayment game.

I had a lipo explode in my room tg nothing catched before i got to it

Drew....remove seals from under ammo can lids...chem fires gotta vent....& nice flow bro ;)

@ASorren

3 жыл бұрын

The lid will no longer latch correctly if you remove the gasket. Just drill some holes in the lid. Just keep in mind, if there is enough gas, flames will shoot up from the holes. Still better than them firing down I guess if you take the gasket out.

@flo-ridafpv5713

3 жыл бұрын

@@ASorren mine all 4 latch fine. They bigger than his. Bout double size

What RC car is that?

also the multiplugs (attached on the wall) overloaded is not the best!

I use metal cans for storage and I do all the charging in a toaster oven surrounded in sheet metal.

Hope you never have too find out if your battery safety area is effective. OR you could go the rest of the way and find out and TEST it.. out doors in a safe area.... Just a thought. What ya think are you gonna do it?

My thought about storage batterys safety. Put them wherever and put on it sand in plastic bag... if it starts to burn it will burn through plastic and extinguish your batterys

That move at 10:03... soooo sick.

Really want to meet and get to fly with you some day Im a 12 year old fpv pilot and have been watching you for a while and cant remember if you still live in Detroit but if you do my cousin plays for the pinstons keep flying :)

Get this man a silver play button

I keep my lipos in an old gas grill,outside.Charge them out on the deck.Don't want the smell or damage inside

"Excuse me for saying Fire-proof, nothing is really fire proof" *Creates name

@XxJackerooxX

3 жыл бұрын

he didnt title it "fire-proof." he titled it "fire-proof?" XD

Its not a good idea to atore a fire extinguisher right next to where the fire would be, keep it further away so its accessible

My friend.. my friend

I just put mine in charging sacks and leave them in my oven, I've almost never use it and when I do I have to pull pans out anyway so I'm not too worried about cooking them lol

I know i'm late to this video and I hope you see this. I'll try to remember to post it on a newer video next time you upload just to hope it's more visible. But that smoke detector seems like it's in an ineffective spot, or more rather that fan seems like it might prevent the smoke detector from doing its job. How is the detector going to detect smoke if the fan is right in front of it pulling that air away from it? I suppose if smoke fills the top of the room it'll cycle through, but that seems like it's not a great situation to be in. This is all just speculation on my part though, I don't know enough about the fluid dynamics of air to really know. Just sketched me out seeing that.

yo! costco has 2 ammo cans for $20. on ebay their like $25 each.

Maybe the fan Isn't great there it is potentially sucks bad fumes away so the smoke detector won’t work if the fan ist blowing air

Second probably. But first in Drew’s heart! ❤️

I prefer the insulated lipo bags over metal boxes if the concern is just fire hazard, because the insulation interferes with fire spread more than metal which conducts heat. Metal boxes are better protection from punctures which can also start lipo fires. A charging station on stone or concrete is likely ideal, because again stone is more likely to interfere with heat conduction. Metal (iron or steel based) and glass surfaces have good fire resistance, but be aware of nearby combustible objects, because these materials can conduct heat. Avoid storing the batteries in large bundles. Try to split the batteries among smaller lipo fire safe containers, because the increased use of fire resistant materials obstructs fire spread. As I understand lipo batteries, they produce their own oxygen, so if a fire happens you want to keep it away from other combustibles and extinguish with cooling agents. Fire blankets available at Home Depot should be effective. Water is likely good for isolated batteries, but water can be dangerous with chargers connected to AC power outlets. Sand should be good for controlling lipo fires. Avoid tightly sealed storage containers, because they can build pressure and explode possible spreading hot gases even more. Vented bags and boxes will more safely release pressure. See NFPA 855 for industrial level recommendations on battery storage. www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/all-codes-and-standards/list-of-codes-and-standards/detail?code=855 www.nfpa.org/News-and-Research/Resources/Emergency-Responders/High-risk-hazards/Energy-Storage-Systems

Keeping a burning lipo from setting your house on fire is obviously a good idea. But having recently seen an appartment that had a really minor fire accident I want to point out that the smoke alone can cause a lot of trouble. Everything will be covered in a thin film of bad smelling residue that you need to get rid of so you'll end up cleaning the floor, walls, ceiling and hundreds of objects that have been exposed. If at all possible storing lipos in a garage, shed or on a balcony or terrace is favourable.

@prottentogo

3 жыл бұрын

True. *cries in city apartment* I mean I do have a balcony, but using that in cold weather is not so great for the lipos.

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Drib the firething does not help for lipos. I use batsafes for all my lipos. Also all my lipos are always in storage mode.

I have heard of guys charging in an old BBQ.

They were just discussing this on Petrol_FPV’s interview with 8bit_christ!

Everyone schould build a lipo "bunker" like you. I think many of us just don't take security seriously enough. Me included.

@divingfalconfpv4602

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Planning it forever.. I regret now always giving out all my ammo cans to friends

@timm1065

3 жыл бұрын

harbor freight has them really cheap if you keep an eye on their coupons. I bought 10 last time they were on sale for different reasons, but still they are nice

Thanks to this and the "I'm quitting FPV" video i got a bat safe. The 90€ are way less than the potential damages that can be caused!

Just get a charcoal table top picnic grill. Tape a few zip locks full of baking soda under the lid so they melt and disperse ...done...

hey drew

you hair is back to normal : )

Everything goes in the fireplace... Oh Florida

The smoke detector directly above is a great idea

Andrew Applepie reminds me of the old days

Did you just use a plastic cable tie on your new fire resistant charging unit?..... ahaha go get some metal ties ahaha