Fire in the cockpit. MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY. Immediate return to Toronto Airport. Real ATC

THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
03-FEB-2024. An Endeavor Air Canadair Regional Jet CRJ-900 (CRJ9), registration N320PQ, performing flight EDV4826 / 9E4826 from Toronto Pearson International Airport (Canada) to New York John F. Kennedy International Airport, NY (USA) during climb out of Toronto, about at 11000 feet, declared MAYDAY, reported electrical fire in the cockpit and requested immediate return to the airport of departure. Later, on the way back, the flight crew reported that it looked like the windshield heater had sparked up on the captain’s side and requested the emergency trucks to meet them on the ground. After landing the airplane stopped on the runway for inspection.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 Initial climb out of Toronto Airport
00:28 MAYDAY, MAYDAY, MAYDAY. Fire in the cockpit. Immediate return to Toronto Airport
04:00 The flight crew is almost ready for approach on runway 6 left
05:49 Endeavor 4826 contacts Toronto Tower
08:00 Landing. Communications with emergency services on the ground. The airplane stops on the runway
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THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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Text version of communication - Made by Author.
Video editing - Made by author.
HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

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  • @easternpa2
    @easternpa24 ай бұрын

    8:24 there's no temperature differential between the sides.. the captain's side is no hotter than the co-pilot's side.. no evidence of ongoing fire under the skin

  • @YouCanSeeATC

    @YouCanSeeATC

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I'll pin your comment.

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414

    @thedevilinthecircuit1414

    4 ай бұрын

    THIS^^^ The crash crew scans the aircraft using an IR camera to detect hot spots on/in the jet.

  • @thecomedypilot5894

    @thecomedypilot5894

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s not what he said?

  • @LeTangKichiro

    @LeTangKichiro

    4 ай бұрын

    @@thecomedypilot5894 You can hear him say on freq that their is no temperature difference on the pilot's side or the co-pilot's side. It's right there in the video. That implies that there is no fire. So not sure what you mean?

  • @ryabow

    @ryabow

    4 ай бұрын

    it was probably an electrical fire. if you kill the power supply to an electrical fire, the fire will die out quickly. which i assume is what the QRH would tell them to do, if they didn't do so themselves.

  • @richarddaugherty8583
    @richarddaugherty85834 ай бұрын

    And that, boys and girls, is how it's done! Pilots call Mayday, ATC is right there with vectors, etc. This incident ought to be used as training material. There were almost no wasted words in the exchanges and everyone was on their game, including the ground equipment. These folks made it look easy. It wasn't.

  • @dougaltolan3017

    @dougaltolan3017

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ts757arsecarbohydrate / hydrocarbon... it's all the same till you barf on a fire.

  • @clarazegarelli5861

    @clarazegarelli5861

    4 ай бұрын

    it was just luck, they took to long. fire could spread so fast, and fill the cockpit with fumes really fast.

  • @johnjoseph3667

    @johnjoseph3667

    4 ай бұрын

    I never cease to be amazed at how unfailingly polite Canadians are...even in a MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY situation.

  • @boudibla4011

    @boudibla4011

    4 ай бұрын

    @@johnjoseph3667Canadian here. Agreed 1000%. ATC did not know where Ullpe was and she was 'ooooooook... I don't know where Ullpe is, but that fine.' lolololol!!

  • @RLTtizME

    @RLTtizME

    4 ай бұрын

    All inert observations with no real impact on the outcome. Keep searching for those problems where none exist. 😂

  • @lyleparadise2764
    @lyleparadise27644 ай бұрын

    That's about the best handling of an emergency I've heard in a long time. Everybody was on the same page for the entire event. Kudos to ATC, the crew and rescue.

  • @JamesGJGSUSHI
    @JamesGJGSUSHI4 ай бұрын

    That was the best, most clear emergency call I’ve ever heard.

  • @GWNorth-db8vn

    @GWNorth-db8vn

    4 ай бұрын

    Four Canadian accents, and even the guy driving the truck speaks well. The pilots even knew how to pronounce Toronto.

  • @matthewjclement

    @matthewjclement

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, in addition to being a well-managed emergency and return to airport, this must be the most 'Canadian' exchange I've ever heard. Everyone helping everyone, and even a genuinely friendly 'Good morning!' on handover to approach. I know this is a normal courtesy with ATC, but it rarely fees as friendly as this, and during an emergency situation. Bravo to everyone involved.

  • @GWNorth-db8vn

    @GWNorth-db8vn

    4 ай бұрын

    @@matthewjclement - Just south or Pearson is Hwy 401, and nothing pleasant or polite ever happens there.

  • @loonylovesgood

    @loonylovesgood

    4 ай бұрын

    @@GWNorth-db8vnAhahaha, that gave me a good chuckle. 😅

  • @roymillwood7919
    @roymillwood79194 ай бұрын

    Very professional all around. Good job pilots and atc 👍

  • @slipperyslope3912
    @slipperyslope39124 ай бұрын

    See that's good ATC right there. Suggest plane remain close to airport in case anything else arises. So important. And she kept their options open for BOTH runways with her pattern, including a water ditching. Absolutely excellent. When I see these pilots go on long approach legs during an emergency to run checklists I get so nervous. Stockpile altitude and proximity in case the emergency flares up again and forces your hand.

  • @Belchmaster41

    @Belchmaster41

    4 ай бұрын

    they run trough the checklists while still in the air

  • @lyaneris

    @lyaneris

    4 ай бұрын

    I can assure you, had the fire not gone out as fast, they'd have gone through way less checklists ;)

  • @jamescollier3
    @jamescollier34 ай бұрын

    nothing more scary than a fire in a plane.

  • @YouCanSeeATC

    @YouCanSeeATC

    4 ай бұрын

    I can only imagine how it was

  • @dubious6718

    @dubious6718

    4 ай бұрын

    I would think that fire in a submarine is scarier.

  • @elevat1on

    @elevat1on

    4 ай бұрын

    It isn't, actually. Much easier to seal it off there than in an airplane.@@dubious6718

  • @Evan-ed7pu

    @Evan-ed7pu

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dubious6718not talking about subs tho, we’re talking about planes.

  • @Patty-qy8qh

    @Patty-qy8qh

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Evan-ed7puokay so there can't be anything scarier because only planes allowed?

  • @MikePattison
    @MikePattison18 күн бұрын

    That was so damn professional.

  • @flyguille
    @flyguille4 ай бұрын

    The worst scenario, FIRE IN THE COCKPIT!!!!

  • @MrPomelo555

    @MrPomelo555

    4 ай бұрын

    You mean, FIRE IN THE COCKPIT ?????????!!!!!!!!!

  • @gerrybvr
    @gerrybvr4 ай бұрын

    great example of professional at work.

  • @jpmasters-aus
    @jpmasters-aus4 ай бұрын

    I liked the way the tower advised they would provide a wind check 2 miles out, knowing they would probably need it. In the cockpit, they were pretty busy, and it was interesting that the acknowledgment was two clicks. I don’t think I have heard that before (but I was aware it is used occasionally).

  • @lyaneris

    @lyaneris

    4 ай бұрын

    I've heard it in quite a few videos. (I've also listened to a lot of JFK ground 😅) It's just when ATC doesn't require any response and you don't want to block the frequency, but feel like acknowledging- stuff like wind checks, basic information about waiting times or sequence, etc.

  • @florianmisof1988

    @florianmisof1988

    4 ай бұрын

    Interesting, in america I've never really heard that as well, but where I'm from in Europe, that is a very common thing to do.

  • @loonylovesgood

    @loonylovesgood

    4 ай бұрын

    Pearson frequently updates with wind checks. It’s blustery in Toronto, with the lake right there.

  • @robertATC60
    @robertATC604 ай бұрын

    Fantastic job ATC!! Fantastic job pilots!!

  • @Belchmaster41

    @Belchmaster41

    4 ай бұрын

    it was kinda hard to hear the initial call-in after 🛫

  • @gregdrmax
    @gregdrmax4 ай бұрын

    One of the 2 windshield heating sensors. Maintenance can swap to the other sensor (5 minute job) but shield will require replacement soon.

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow20734 ай бұрын

    I hadn't thought of the "radar off" request before, but I guess it makes sense so ARFF doesn't get cooked like a Vienna sausage while driving across the nose.

  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn

    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn

    4 ай бұрын

    Modern aviation weather radar has a peak power pulse of around a hundred watts and is harmless. Many have wind shear detection functions that will turn the radar on automatically for takeoff and approach. Early airborne radar sets, however, had 65 or even 70 kilowatt peak power. You definitely did not want to have them on with people or equipment nearby.

  • @heuhen

    @heuhen

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Hopeless_and_Forlorn the other reason they might have asked for the radar off, is when they are inspecting the aircraft with thermal camera, so they wan't as little heat signature up front when they are looking at the cockpit from the outside

  • @andyasdf2078

    @andyasdf2078

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Hopeless_and_Forlorn I worked on brand new King Airs and maintenance always had the aircraft turned away towards an unoccupied area of the apron before testing the weather radar

  • @theharper1

    @theharper1

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Hopeless_and_Forlorn I saw a documentary years ago about early airborne radar and technicians getting cancer and other health issues after working on active belly mounted radar of WW2 bombers while the aircraft was on top of a metal pad reflecting the signal at them. They were basically working in a microwave oven.

  • @jemand8462

    @jemand8462

    4 ай бұрын

    Radar doesn’t cook anything, it’s not microwaves or even radioactive. It’s like a radio station antenna basically.

  • @brothaman007
    @brothaman0074 ай бұрын

    Gotta love Toronto ATC.

  • @daveworley
    @daveworley4 ай бұрын

    Textbook, all round. Bravo.

  • @pk7549
    @pk75494 ай бұрын

    I had this happen to me. The electrical components embbeded in the windshield will spark when the inner ply has a stress point. Shortly after the inner ply cracks under a given pressure diff. We had this happen in cruise. Certainly gets your attention quick.

  • @c1d2e

    @c1d2e

    4 ай бұрын

    Same here, it happened on approach, sparks start coming off the bottom edge of the Captains side windscreen, it looked to be between the layers? Flipped the windshield heat off and it stopped, landed, no drama :).

  • @pk7549

    @pk7549

    4 ай бұрын

    @@c1d2e We had it at cruise, QRH directs you to descend then run the pressurization manually. It wasn’t a big deal really because the screen has three layers, and since we were close to destination we just decided to continue.

  • @MLink919

    @MLink919

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly what happened. Very jarring but got the windshield heat off quickly and all was well.

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor9404 ай бұрын

    Weirdly, at least this fire was one that sparked up in the pilots field of view. Which meant it was detected and reacted to immediately. But that's still got to be terrifying. Especially for the pilots.

  • @TheMILVET

    @TheMILVET

    4 ай бұрын

    Prolly a short in the windsheild heat.

  • @t288msd
    @t288msd4 ай бұрын

    We went 7 minutes before getting the unique canadian 'check' phraseology. Must be a record! :)

  • @gregheyheyhey

    @gregheyheyhey

    4 ай бұрын

    Does "check" have an official ATC meaning, or is it the Canadian controller equivalent of "I gotcha"?

  • @boudibla4011

    @boudibla4011

    4 ай бұрын

    And how about the pilot double mic click to acknowledge last wind check by tower... Roger is my uncle ;)

  • @dk2428
    @dk24284 ай бұрын

    Professionals, all people involved.

  • @joycedudzinski9415
    @joycedudzinski94154 ай бұрын

    Amazing how the pilot had the guts to say... ..MAYDAY.. With others, ATC has to pull teeth to get a reply.

  • @brianspencer6397

    @brianspencer6397

    4 ай бұрын

    When it blows up directly in front of your face, you tend to appreciate its seriousness pretty quickly....

  • @theharper1

    @theharper1

    4 ай бұрын

    @@brianspencer6397 and a fire in the flight deck is a more immediate threat to getting on the ground safely than a fire in one engine (for example).

  • @RLTtizME

    @RLTtizME

    4 ай бұрын

    He was a Euro illegal alien.

  • @TruthProvider
    @TruthProvider4 ай бұрын

    Would be real useful if airplanes could put out an automated squawk code with real time data of fuel remaining and souls on board so that ATC wouldn't have to ask over and over again for this info from busy pilots of a troubled aircraft.

  • @A.J.1656

    @A.J.1656

    4 ай бұрын

    It's a bigger problem in the comments section than it is in the air.

  • @idunnoanymore2870

    @idunnoanymore2870

    4 ай бұрын

    U shud patent the idea and make it happen!!!!! Great idea!!!

  • @bobstephenson4391

    @bobstephenson4391

    4 ай бұрын

    I am a captain for this airline. The fuel state is supposed to be in time, not pounds or gallons, but I would’ve done the same thing though…just look at the number and report it. Let them figure out on the ground how long a 900 can fly with 9000 pounds. LOL.

  • @j2simpso
    @j2simpso4 ай бұрын

    Didn’t know St Elmo’s fire occurs in Toronto

  • @TheLoneWolfling
    @TheLoneWolfling4 ай бұрын

    I'd be interested in seeing - in general - any other aircraft that were vectored around in response. I know that in some of these the ATC ends up being somewhat frantic juggling other aircraft, but this seldom shows that aspect. (I don't actually know if there were any other aircraft in this case.)

  • @lyaneris

    @lyaneris

    4 ай бұрын

    I'd guess that they either stopped departures or put them on a different frequency (the second ATC might very well have been director/final or approach before the situation) In cases where the plane was with dep, it tends to be quieter, since it's a lower stress environment (due to less time pressure)

  • @nikolasardhbryanmoningkey8743
    @nikolasardhbryanmoningkey87434 ай бұрын

    4:43 sounds like a fly

  • @TheButterZone
    @TheButterZone4 ай бұрын

    That was a cute name for a waypoint either way LOL

  • @MarkRose1337
    @MarkRose13374 ай бұрын

    Combusting Regional Jet

  • @marcfair2163
    @marcfair21634 ай бұрын

    Man.. how professional! 🤩 Great job from the pilots and all controllers! A bit funny that he said Mayday Mayday Mayday and after that... Ah yeah.. and if you don't mind we'd like to declare an emergency.. 😅 well yeah.. a Mayday call iiiiis an emergency 🙈...

  • @jamesl7477

    @jamesl7477

    4 ай бұрын

    When you’re heart rate is double what it normally is, stress hits you quick. That’s why pilots rely on their training. No harm for being slightly redundant in an otherwise great handling of the situation!

  • @twentynineteen4687

    @twentynineteen4687

    4 ай бұрын

    I often see Canadians following exact procedure AND being polite about it. Glad this wasn't the exception.

  • @lyaneris

    @lyaneris

    4 ай бұрын

    I've heard US ATC ask afterwards if they are declaring an emergency.... I bet he wanted to make sure 😅

  • @Daniel-us1ls
    @Daniel-us1ls4 ай бұрын

    I didn't know it was possible for North American pilots to use standard phraseology in emergencies. All jokes aside, the situation was handled very well by both controllers and pilots.

  • @raygale4198

    @raygale4198

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe Canadian pilots? It's only across a river but different culture completely.

  • @shajiehussain1130

    @shajiehussain1130

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@raygale4198 Endeavor Air is Delta Connection so probably American pilots

  • @mrplowjrezv

    @mrplowjrezv

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@raygale4198Don't let Lake O. hear you talk about her like that.

  • @andij605

    @andij605

    4 ай бұрын

    There was an AA pilot using mayday recently. Maybe these guys also use mayday cause they're in Canada, not in the USA?

  • @Mike-oz4cv

    @Mike-oz4cv

    4 ай бұрын

    Afaik “hazardous material” is non-standard phraseology. But at least this time they didn’t say “hazmat”.

  • @wessutton4560
    @wessutton45604 ай бұрын

    A fire on the windshield? Like St. Elmo’s fire?

  • @ak9079

    @ak9079

    2 ай бұрын

    Windshield heaters

  • @instant_mint
    @instant_mint4 ай бұрын

    5:14 Can someone explain what this whining noise may be? It doesn't sound like the typical "bad reception noise", it more like interference from something else?

  • @briandeschene8424

    @briandeschene8424

    4 ай бұрын

    Likely somebody transmitting at the same time “stepping” on the first transmission.

  • @instant_mint

    @instant_mint

    4 ай бұрын

    @@briandeschene8424 Aha okay 👍

  • @Richard-iu9sf
    @Richard-iu9sf4 ай бұрын

    Textbook work by all. Especially calling Mayday.

  • @jhaedtler
    @jhaedtler4 ай бұрын

    You need to turn up the audio.

  • @BulanuRoz

    @BulanuRoz

    4 ай бұрын

    not a problem coming from him, it's the ATC and radio itself that was quiet

  • @heuhen

    @heuhen

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BulanuRoz yes, but he can turn the volume up in the post production in the video.

  • @TruthProvider

    @TruthProvider

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed, the sound needs to be amplified ... otherwise too quiet.

  • @RLTtizME

    @RLTtizME

    4 ай бұрын

    Crank up your ear trumpet old timer.

  • @frontcentermusician
    @frontcentermusicianАй бұрын

    Lot of flight sim pilots giving there 2 cents worth LOL

  • @chadgreen100
    @chadgreen1004 ай бұрын

    Excellent communication and procedure, but no Star Wars comments?

  • @tonyf9076

    @tonyf9076

    4 ай бұрын

    Luke, I am your father.....huffffff

  • @pedropaulo7922
    @pedropaulo79224 ай бұрын

    Why should the radar be out for fire trucks to approach?

  • @markw1123

    @markw1123

    4 ай бұрын

    Getting too close to the radar transmitter is dangerous for personnel. Sounds like the firefighters were planning to exit the truck and walk around the aircraft.

  • @coreyballard8359

    @coreyballard8359

    4 ай бұрын

    Assload of ionizing radiation that would make the testes tingle

  • @Gibbins580

    @Gibbins580

    4 ай бұрын

    @@coreyballard8359hazardous radiation, yes. Ionizing, no

  • @WestAirAviation

    @WestAirAviation

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@coreyballard8359Microwaves aren't ionizing but they can cause burns in intensities emitted by a weather radar.

  • @ImpendingJoker
    @ImpendingJoker4 ай бұрын

    Audio is very quiet in this video.

  • @nunyabuisness626
    @nunyabuisness6264 ай бұрын

    This is not the year for aviation…

  • @srh2301
    @srh23014 ай бұрын

    Only once asked for souls and remaining fuel. Clear indicator they haven't been over SFO or JFK...

  • @andrewj591
    @andrewj5914 ай бұрын

    An American pilot actually declaring a mayday and not using trucker comm.. mind blown.

  • @GWNorth-db8vn

    @GWNorth-db8vn

    4 ай бұрын

    He pronounced "Toronto" properly, too.

  • @TheOReport1994

    @TheOReport1994

    4 ай бұрын

    @@GWNorth-db8vn How else are you supposed to pronounce it!? 🤪

  • @clarazegarelli5861
    @clarazegarelli58614 ай бұрын

    ok please dont hate me (damn ok do.. ) but the reason because everybody is saying.. wow perfect handling of the situation, how professional they were.. it is because the fire extinguish itself and nobody died. In my opinion, they took to long and were to comfortable preparing the aircraft for land. If the fire spread, and you have smoke on the cockpit you have a few minutes before you lose control. Remember a MD11 over the east coast. They have a smoke in the entertainment system. they were very professional, calm and patient, setting up everything for landing. a few minutes from the airport, the smoke was in the cockpit, they couldnt see the instruments. everybody died.

  • @clarazegarelli5861

    @clarazegarelli5861

    4 ай бұрын

    Swissair Flight 111 crash

  • @clarazegarelli5861

    @clarazegarelli5861

    4 ай бұрын

    actually was the ATC the ones that suggested to vector them close to the airport .. great idea.

  • @entitledblackwoman
    @entitledblackwoman4 ай бұрын

    Thank God for masculine men

  • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549

    @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549

    6 күн бұрын

    Masculine men have been crashing planes for 70 years

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